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Re: Woodshop Directory 2020 Thread
« Reply #810 on: December 06, 2020, 08:39:16 PM »
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im just looking for info on the doa flat as fuck or emold
8.5 i think has a 14.5"wb or at least it feels like it.

they just dropped a limited line and no 8.5 flats, anyone know if another company runs this mold or who presses the decks?

or whats the next closest thing? last toy machine i had was mellowish
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8.38 is 14.25wb, not sure about 8.5... Could be 14.5, I'll ask. South Central is still backed up on production. The stuff that just went up was originally supposed to come out in like September and be the "fall 20" release. Additionally, What was asked for isn't exactly what was delivered, but that's unfortunately not uncommon, especially right now with production problems plaguing seemingly everyone but clutch. I'm kind of annoyed by it because I was supposed to get a one-off square e-mold of the natas graphic in this run but it didn't show up. Im not surprised they missed or ignored it because it was legitimately the only square flat in the order, but still I was holding out hope that they'd come through. Been dying to try a square flat since the first day I skated one of the regular DOA squares. It is what it is though, I just got a new politic square and have a couple of DOA flats on the way so I've got plenty of SC wood to tide me over for the time being.

If anyone reading this is thinking about snagging a DOA definitely don't wait around, they're going to sell fast as fuck and there's a couple awesome graphics in this run. The new soft goods are killer too, DOA always makes cool shit.

Anyways, Toy Machine and Foundation are definitely a good substitute as far as flat boards go, and Toy does a lot of 14.5wb if that's what you're after. Blood wizard is another good one, I think the 8.5 popsicle is 31.8" length and 14.25 wb. The last 8.5 I skated was a blood wizard and I really liked it.

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Politic does e-mold sometimes, it is from south central. Hit up Damon at Library Skate Shop.
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Unfortunately Politic isn't doing flats anymore. The last one was the Pawns of Babylon. Damon said they don't sell (and the reason DOA sells their flats on the website is that shops apparently don't want them) so unfortunately despite the fact that we've got a lot of E mold lovers on here it's kind of a niche product. I say we start a grass roots "Make Politic Flat Again" campaign.


Interestingly, the E mold is apparently actually designed for big (like 9"+) vert and big tranny boards... It just so happened to be the flattest mold they had so DOA and politic started using it. I don't know if anyone else uses it but I've never seen anyone other than Politic and DOA.
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Thanks for the information about SC. I was going to get my second round of decks made made with them but it sounds like I should hold off until things stabilize a bit.
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how easy/hard was it to deal with SC? i want to get decks from them, im up in canada so im not sure how easy it would be.

Sorry, I wrote that poorly. I meant that my first decks were from somewhere else and I wanted my second to be made by SC

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Re: Woodshop Directory 2020 Thread
« Reply #811 on: December 07, 2020, 09:18:11 PM »
Has anyone gotten a zero board recently? I know for a time they were DSM pressed with the laser engraving and the paper insert on the side. Then they continued to press in China, still had the "Made in China, Designed in California" and production code engraving. Now I hear they are back to US woodshops. Can anyone whose ridden a Zero recently confirm this?
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Re: Woodshop Directory 2020 Thread
« Reply #812 on: December 07, 2020, 10:01:58 PM »
Has anyone gotten a zero board recently? I know for a time they were DSM pressed with the laser engraving and the paper insert on the side. Then they continued to press in China, still had the "Made in China, Designed in California" and production code engraving. Now I hear they are back to US woodshops. Can anyone whose ridden a Zero recently confirm this?

They haven't been DSM for quite some time now. I had one in the spring because they all seemed to be BBS again, but something seemed a bit different - I heard a rumor they may have been Clutch (and another rumor that Clutch has ex BBS dudes using similar molds/shapes). It felt just a little different, not quite as crispy as a standard BBS deck, and the concave also didn't flatten out within the truck holes. I haven't had the chance to hold a board in my hands that I can say 100% is Clutch, but I'd like to so I can remember the details and be able to identify them in the future. I feel like that's what my Zero deck may have been, though.

BBS is Mexico, and I think Clutch is now as well - anyone on here know any specifics about operations at Clutch?

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Re: Woodshop Directory 2020 Thread
« Reply #813 on: December 08, 2020, 12:02:52 AM »
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Has anyone gotten a zero board recently? I know for a time they were DSM pressed with the laser engraving and the paper insert on the side. Then they continued to press in China, still had the "Made in China, Designed in California" and production code engraving. Now I hear they are back to US woodshops. Can anyone whose ridden a Zero recently confirm this?
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They haven't been DSM for quite some time now. I had one in the spring because they all seemed to be BBS again, but something seemed a bit different - I heard a rumor they may have been Clutch (and another rumor that Clutch has ex BBS dudes using similar molds/shapes). It felt just a little different, not quite as crispy as a standard BBS deck, and the concave also didn't flatten out within the truck holes. I haven't had the chance to hold a board in my hands that I can say 100% is Clutch, but I'd like to so I can remember the details and be able to identify them in the future. I feel like that's what my Zero deck may have been, though.

BBS is Mexico, and I think Clutch is now as well - anyone on here know any specifics about operations at Clutch?


Thanks for the reply, I knew they moved back to US after being at DSM for a while. Saw a couple of these crop up on Taobao (China's Amazon), some sellers are selling old stock (Zero before Chris Cole left), some are selling Zero DSM boards, and some are selling ones with the laser etching but no DSM carboard insert:


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FORGED - 1.85”- 46.99mm

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Re: Woodshop Directory 2020 Thread
« Reply #814 on: December 08, 2020, 12:25:22 PM »
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im just looking for info on the doa flat as fuck or emold
8.5 i think has a 14.5"wb or at least it feels like it.

they just dropped a limited line and no 8.5 flats, anyone know if another company runs this mold or who presses the decks?

or whats the next closest thing? last toy machine i had was mellowish
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8.38 is 14.25wb, not sure about 8.5... Could be 14.5, I'll ask. South Central is still backed up on production. The stuff that just went up was originally supposed to come out in like September and be the "fall 20" release. Additionally, What was asked for isn't exactly what was delivered, but that's unfortunately not uncommon, especially right now with production problems plaguing seemingly everyone but clutch. I'm kind of annoyed by it because I was supposed to get a one-off square e-mold of the natas graphic in this run but it didn't show up. Im not surprised they missed or ignored it because it was legitimately the only square flat in the order, but still I was holding out hope that they'd come through. Been dying to try a square flat since the first day I skated one of the regular DOA squares. It is what it is though, I just got a new politic square and have a couple of DOA flats on the way so I've got plenty of SC wood to tide me over for the time being.

If anyone reading this is thinking about snagging a DOA definitely don't wait around, they're going to sell fast as fuck and there's a couple awesome graphics in this run. The new soft goods are killer too, DOA always makes cool shit.

Anyways, Toy Machine and Foundation are definitely a good substitute as far as flat boards go, and Toy does a lot of 14.5wb if that's what you're after. Blood wizard is another good one, I think the 8.5 popsicle is 31.8" length and 14.25 wb. The last 8.5 I skated was a blood wizard and I really liked it.

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Politic does e-mold sometimes, it is from south central. Hit up Damon at Library Skate Shop.
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Unfortunately Politic isn't doing flats anymore. The last one was the Pawns of Babylon. Damon said they don't sell (and the reason DOA sells their flats on the website is that shops apparently don't want them) so unfortunately despite the fact that we've got a lot of E mold lovers on here it's kind of a niche product. I say we start a grass roots "Make Politic Flat Again" campaign.


Interestingly, the E mold is apparently actually designed for big (like 9"+) vert and big tranny boards... It just so happened to be the flattest mold they had so DOA and politic started using it. I don't know if anyone else uses it but I've never seen anyone other than Politic and DOA.
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Thanks for the information about SC. I was going to get my second round of decks made made with them but it sounds like I should hold off until things stabilize a bit.
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how easy/hard was it to deal with SC? i want to get decks from them, im up in canada so im not sure how easy it would be.

Also curious on people’s experience with them as I am also toying around with starting a brand. I emailed them 2 weeks ago, sent a follow up a week ago and even called yesterday haven’t heard from them. Is this unusual? Hoping it’s just because of the COVID delay situation.

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Re: Woodshop Directory 2020 Thread
« Reply #815 on: December 08, 2020, 03:55:00 PM »
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im just looking for info on the doa flat as fuck or emold
8.5 i think has a 14.5"wb or at least it feels like it.

they just dropped a limited line and no 8.5 flats, anyone know if another company runs this mold or who presses the decks?

or whats the next closest thing? last toy machine i had was mellowish
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8.38 is 14.25wb, not sure about 8.5... Could be 14.5, I'll ask. South Central is still backed up on production. The stuff that just went up was originally supposed to come out in like September and be the "fall 20" release. Additionally, What was asked for isn't exactly what was delivered, but that's unfortunately not uncommon, especially right now with production problems plaguing seemingly everyone but clutch. I'm kind of annoyed by it because I was supposed to get a one-off square e-mold of the natas graphic in this run but it didn't show up. Im not surprised they missed or ignored it because it was legitimately the only square flat in the order, but still I was holding out hope that they'd come through. Been dying to try a square flat since the first day I skated one of the regular DOA squares. It is what it is though, I just got a new politic square and have a couple of DOA flats on the way so I've got plenty of SC wood to tide me over for the time being.

If anyone reading this is thinking about snagging a DOA definitely don't wait around, they're going to sell fast as fuck and there's a couple awesome graphics in this run. The new soft goods are killer too, DOA always makes cool shit.

Anyways, Toy Machine and Foundation are definitely a good substitute as far as flat boards go, and Toy does a lot of 14.5wb if that's what you're after. Blood wizard is another good one, I think the 8.5 popsicle is 31.8" length and 14.25 wb. The last 8.5 I skated was a blood wizard and I really liked it.

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Politic does e-mold sometimes, it is from south central. Hit up Damon at Library Skate Shop.
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Unfortunately Politic isn't doing flats anymore. The last one was the Pawns of Babylon. Damon said they don't sell (and the reason DOA sells their flats on the website is that shops apparently don't want them) so unfortunately despite the fact that we've got a lot of E mold lovers on here it's kind of a niche product. I say we start a grass roots "Make Politic Flat Again" campaign.


Interestingly, the E mold is apparently actually designed for big (like 9"+) vert and big tranny boards... It just so happened to be the flattest mold they had so DOA and politic started using it. I don't know if anyone else uses it but I've never seen anyone other than Politic and DOA.
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Thanks for the information about SC. I was going to get my second round of decks made made with them but it sounds like I should hold off until things stabilize a bit.
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how easy/hard was it to deal with SC? i want to get decks from them, im up in canada so im not sure how easy it would be.
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Also curious on people’s experience with them as I am also toying around with starting a brand. I emailed them 2 weeks ago, sent a follow up a week ago and even called yesterday haven’t heard from them. Is this unusual? Hoping it’s just because of the COVID delay situation.

I had the same experience when getting my project started, straight ghost town. I’ve asked a few friends who’ve worked with them in the past and said it’s pretty normal, even pre-covid. Like, you have to bug the shit out of em for a response.

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Re: Woodshop Directory 2020 Thread
« Reply #816 on: December 08, 2020, 04:45:54 PM »
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Has anyone gotten a zero board recently? I know for a time they were DSM pressed with the laser engraving and the paper insert on the side. Then they continued to press in China, still had the "Made in China, Designed in California" and production code engraving. Now I hear they are back to US woodshops. Can anyone whose ridden a Zero recently confirm this?
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They haven't been DSM for quite some time now. I had one in the spring because they all seemed to be BBS again, but something seemed a bit different - I heard a rumor they may have been Clutch (and another rumor that Clutch has ex BBS dudes using similar molds/shapes). It felt just a little different, not quite as crispy as a standard BBS deck, and the concave also didn't flatten out within the truck holes. I haven't had the chance to hold a board in my hands that I can say 100% is Clutch, but I'd like to so I can remember the details and be able to identify them in the future. I feel like that's what my Zero deck may have been, though.

BBS is Mexico, and I think Clutch is now as well - anyone on here know any specifics about operations at Clutch?

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Thanks for the reply, I knew they moved back to US after being at DSM for a while. Saw a couple of these crop up on Taobao (China's Amazon), some sellers are selling old stock (Zero before Chris Cole left), some are selling Zero DSM boards, and some are selling ones with the laser etching but no DSM carboard insert:


The top of the new one looks like BBS engraving, no serial number or other info:

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/OXsAAOSwRKRfb9xM/s-l1600.jpg

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/Kp8AAOSwZfBfb9w3/s-l1600.jpg

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/5N0AAOSwDQdfb9xC/s-l1600.jpg

Pics and info on the Zero site too, including dimensions:  8.5" x 32.3" | WB: 14.5"

https://zeroskateboards.com/products/cole-signature-single-skull

There is some interest in the setups thread right now, that could shed some light on it, as the 8.5 P8 Clutch board I have is definitely a bit on the steeper side and although similar to BBS, I could tell the difference, feeling a bit weird so haven't set it up, but anyway conspiracy theories aside, here is the post /  link...

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=10804.26400


Set up a Zero on Friday and did not like it for some reason. It felt oddly heavy and steeper than it looked :/ I normally like medium steep but something wasn't right, maybe it was the longer WB and steepness on 55mm Indys that threw me off. It was also hard to turn on it for some reason, like it wouldn't want to stay straight or be as responsive when I leaned heel or toe side. A shame because the shape felt and looked nice otherwise... c'est la vie...

Anyways, swapped it out for this Heroin I've had for a little bit. First Heroin so I'm excited! Way better just in the first 15 minutes on a session yesterday!! :D

Zero: 8.5, 32.25"(?), 14.5"



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Re: Woodshop Directory 2020 Thread
« Reply #817 on: December 09, 2020, 07:42:52 AM »
I'm still on the hunt for a 8.12-8.25x32ish deck with a 14.38-14.5 wb and mellow kicks. I was a huge fan of the Austyn deck (8.25x32x14.5) that came out a few months back but Habitat hasn't released anymore of that shape. Anyone have any suggestions for something similar?

For context yes I've tried DLX decks with similar dims but the tails feel too steep for my liking.

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Re: Woodshop Directory 2020 Thread
« Reply #818 on: December 09, 2020, 12:48:45 PM »
Anyways, Toy Machine and Foundation are definitely a good substitute as far as flat boards go, and Toy does a lot of 14.5wb if that's what you're after. Blood wizard is another good one, I think the 8.5 popsicle is 31.8" length and 14.25 wb. The last 8.5 I skated was a blood wizard and I really liked it.

What can you tell me about this deck/mold?  I absolutely love how flat it is and how smooth the concave transitions down on the ends.  I wanted to buy another, but I just went on their site and it looks like it was completely redone and I can't find any deck with these exact dimensions anymore.  Do they usually rotate their decks?  Are the ones on there now also made by PS?

What I really want is this exact same deck, but in like 8.75-9.0.  Do you think their 8.75,8.8 and 9.0 would have a similar feel/shape? 

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Re: Woodshop Directory 2020 Thread
« Reply #819 on: December 09, 2020, 06:43:26 PM »
In the ever changing world of Toy Machine woodshop use, it would now appear they got a bunch of stock made at Control up here in Canada. Doubt it's permanent - more like one of the only options right now with how swamped other woodshops are. Saw them myself today.

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Re: Woodshop Directory 2020 Thread
« Reply #820 on: December 09, 2020, 06:51:26 PM »


I wonder if Toy Machine has just had an unfortunate situation in Australia (and maybe other countries) with wood from China that I found terrible to stand on and others have said was even worse to actually skate.

That board there with the #PS number is PS Stix which is one of the best woodshops, but it was said that they couldn't get wood from there during the pandemic so had to source wood from what would now seem a few different places.

If you cannot see the top / stand on it in a shop, you might be left a bit cold if you bought online and got a "cheap alternative" or of course you could get a decent board, if it was another good woodshop doing the boards.

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Re: Woodshop Directory 2020 Thread
« Reply #821 on: December 09, 2020, 08:55:00 PM »
to me there are tiers of companies who have to fill orders, like a company like toy machine has to crank out way more than say....Alltimers. Because they have to fill these big orders they do what they can.  They obviously don't have the terms like DLX has with generator.  That's why I think companies like NHS have their alignments with dwindle, and crail with the woodshop in China, they can keep up and put them in the front of the line.  I don't think PS can keep up.....

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Re: Woodshop Directory 2020 Thread
« Reply #822 on: December 10, 2020, 08:37:10 PM »
I dm'd Uma Landsleds on Instagram and they confirmed BBS

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« Reply #823 on: December 10, 2020, 08:57:40 PM »
Always have a little chuckle at the fact that brands who use BBS or other good woodshops are never slow to confirm where their wood comes from, but the ones who don't want to say or even quote "from a well known woodshop" or "where a lot of the other pro boards are made" are usually more so the crap woodshops or from an unknown woodshop in China.

Buttfart or others have probably said the same thing before too.

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« Reply #824 on: December 11, 2020, 01:40:45 AM »
Always have a little chuckle at the fact that brands who use BBS or other good woodshops are never slow to confirm where their wood comes from, but the ones who don't want to say or even quote "from a well known woodshop" or "where a lot of the other pro boards are made" are usually more so the crap woodshops or from an unknown woodshop in China.

Buttfart or others have probably said the same thing before too.

That's the exact response I got from Folklore.

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« Reply #825 on: December 12, 2020, 06:06:40 AM »
Maybe everyone is skimping on glue during covid?  ;D I'm desperately trying to shift the blame away from me sucking and possibly getting fat. I'm gonna have to go 3rd world set up steeze and nail them back together with 2x4's. Shit is getting expensive.

I set up a politic only a couple days ago and I already have delamination down the entire left side of the board :(

maybe its the temperature?

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Re: Woodshop Directory 2020 Thread
« Reply #826 on: December 12, 2020, 07:23:27 AM »
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Maybe everyone is skimping on glue during covid?  ;D I'm desperately trying to shift the blame away from me sucking and possibly getting fat. I'm gonna have to go 3rd world set up steeze and nail them back together with 2x4's. Shit is getting expensive.
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I set up a politic only a couple days ago and I already have delamination down the entire left side of the board :(

maybe its the temperature?

I don’t know a ton about production but I wonder if demand is forcing wood shops to put out decks without as much cure time as usual. If that’s the case, I’m curious what the effect on deck quality is.

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« Reply #827 on: December 12, 2020, 08:06:56 AM »
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Maybe everyone is skimping on glue during covid?  ;D I'm desperately trying to shift the blame away from me sucking and possibly getting fat. I'm gonna have to go 3rd world set up steeze and nail them back together with 2x4's. Shit is getting expensive.
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I set up a politic only a couple days ago and I already have delamination down the entire left side of the board :(

maybe its the temperature?
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I don’t know a ton about production but I wonder if demand is forcing wood shops to put out decks without as much cure time as usual. If that’s the case, I’m curious what the effect on deck quality is.

I got an ah cardiel, lovers series, and the board just felt ‘different’, lighter maybe? I couldn’t figure out what felt different than usual bbs, maybe something in the sealant....the deck skated great (just way too big, I’m woosey).

Cure times on boards sounds interesting. I’ve had more than a few ps boards that I skated, hated, and went back to and then loved. Most of that happened years ago. As I’m just pointlessly rambling here, I have a ps board from 6 years ago that is so thrashed, razored, been exposed to water several times, just banged out. Has great pop, excellent sound when hit. Bbs will always be in my mind as consistent, and ps will be there as the potential best. I haven’t had clutch/sc. Short boards are my thing, and most shops seem to make em for more normal sized folk.

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« Reply #828 on: December 12, 2020, 08:54:52 AM »

That's the exact response I got from Folklore.

The folklore Jason lee/dune decks, or is there another company called that now? Those were Quincy (which is no longer around... They told me they were just moving to a new location and would be back in early 2020 but that didn't happen) and they didn't really try to hide it. They always tagged them in IG posts and stuff like that so I wonder why they wouldn't just tell you that.


What can you tell me about this deck/mold?  I absolutely love how flat it is and how smooth the concave transitions down on the ends.  I wanted to buy another, but I just went on their site and it looks like it was completely redone and I can't find any deck with these exact dimensions anymore.  Do they usually rotate their decks?  Are the ones on there now also made by PS?

What I really want is this exact same deck, but in like 8.75-9.0.  Do you think their 8.75,8.8 and 9.0 would have a similar feel/shape? 

cheers


I don't have any experience with any toy decks bigger than 8.25, but I would guess they would be the same or similar as long as they're designated "mellow mold" in the description. PS boards in general tend to have really nice, smooth, organic shapes like you mentioned (as opposed to bbs or others that often have deeper, abrupt, almost mechanical looking shapes).

The bigger issue right now would probably be finding a PS one. They've been jumping around to wherever they can get wood lately and since they reuse graphics frequently it's hard to say what the board will be like without going to a shop in person. If you find one that looks promising at a non local shop you can always try emailing the shop and asking if it's PS and if they can send a side profile picture so you'll have a better idea of what the deck is like.

If you like the mellow PS style boards and can't find one I would recommend checking out Quasi. They aren't as flat as the Toy Machine boards I've had but they're still quite mellow and are sort of the quintessential PS board in my opinion. I'm not sure if they make anything in the sizes you mentioned, (the biggest one I can think of off the top of my head is an 8.62) and they're square which can be hard to adjust to if you're used to more tapered and rounded kicks, but I really like them. They just dropped their winter release so they're really easy to find at the moment, the 8.5 proto is in stock at all the big online shops and like 80% of the local shops I keep tabs on.
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Re: Woodshop Directory 2020 Thread
« Reply #829 on: December 12, 2020, 09:05:02 AM »
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Maybe everyone is skimping on glue during covid?  ;D I'm desperately trying to shift the blame away from me sucking and possibly getting fat. I'm gonna have to go 3rd world set up steeze and nail them back together with 2x4's. Shit is getting expensive.
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I set up a politic only a couple days ago and I already have delamination down the entire left side of the board :(

maybe its the temperature?
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I don’t know a ton about production but I wonder if demand is forcing wood shops to put out decks without as much cure time as usual. If that’s the case, I’m curious what the effect on deck quality is.
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I got an ah cardiel, lovers series, and the board just felt ‘different’, lighter maybe? I couldn’t figure out what felt different than usual bbs, maybe something in the sealant....the deck skated great (just way too big, I’m woosey).

Cure times on boards sounds interesting. I’ve had more than a few ps boards that I skated, hated, and went back to and then loved. Most of that happened years ago. As I’m just pointlessly rambling here, I have a ps board from 6 years ago that is so thrashed, razored, been exposed to water several times, just banged out. Has great pop, excellent sound when hit. Bbs will always be in my mind as consistent, and ps will be there as the potential best. I haven’t had clutch/sc. Short boards are my thing, and most shops seem to make em for more normal sized folk.

I don’t know specifically about PS but when I got decks made with Pennswood the owner was telling me a little bit about how both cure times and temperature controlled environments play important parts in consistency of deck quality. This is going to go onto the loooong list of stuff that I really want to learn more about but lack the mental bandwidth to tackle right now hahaha

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Re: Woodshop Directory 2020 Thread
« Reply #830 on: December 12, 2020, 06:03:52 PM »
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That's the exact response I got from Folklore.
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The folklore Jason lee/dune decks, or is there another company called that now? Those were Quincy (which is no longer around... They told me they were just moving to a new location and would be back in early 2020 but that didn't happen) and they didn't really try to hide it. They always tagged them in IG posts and stuff like that so I wonder why they wouldn't just tell you that.


Folklore is an Aussie company, est 2004, fairly small in the grand scheme of things and not on the radar of most people but they push their product pretty hard over here, felt like it was and rumoured to be the same as Santa Cruz, which I would have agreed with, so most likely followed to Dwindle now, but who knows.

I have people I know who ride them and swear by them, as well as others who are on teams which use their wood, which is ok for them, but they were too steep for what I wanted.

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Re: Woodshop Directory 2020 Thread
« Reply #831 on: December 12, 2020, 07:23:47 PM »
sorta confused on length measurements. My Passport 8.25 is 31.8 on their site, but is 32 long from outside to outside. I was looking at recs with similar concave/shape and was told Baker would be close. Their 8.125 looks solid, but is 31.7 long. Are they like Passport where they are actually longer?

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Re: Woodshop Directory 2020 Thread
« Reply #832 on: December 12, 2020, 07:30:05 PM »
sorta confused on length measurements. My Passport 8.25 is 31.8 on their site, but is 32 long from outside to outside. I was looking at recs with similar concave/shape and was told Baker would be close. Their 8.125 looks solid, but is 31.7 long. Are they like Passport where they are actually longer?

Going by specs from websites alone, they work out almost exactly the same, but as you have found with the boards you have, there might be slight differences, which is about 2mm or so difference.  How much if any is that going to impact your decision?

You can always ask them to measure the boards, just to check sizes, or compare boards if they have a few in stock there as well.

Also some Baker show as 31.5 length and others as 31.8 or so, but I haven't seen enough of them to know which is correct or true size.


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Re: Woodshop Directory 2020 Thread
« Reply #833 on: December 12, 2020, 09:20:22 PM »
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sorta confused on length measurements. My Passport 8.25 is 31.8 on their site, but is 32 long from outside to outside. I was looking at recs with similar concave/shape and was told Baker would be close. Their 8.125 looks solid, but is 31.7 long. Are they like Passport where they are actually longer?
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Going by specs from websites alone, they work out almost exactly the same, but as you have found with the boards you have, there might be slight differences, which is about 2mm or so difference.  How much if any is that going to impact your decision?

You can always ask them to measure the boards, just to check sizes, or compare boards if they have a few in stock there as well.

Also some Baker show as 31.5 length and others as 31.8 or so, but I haven't seen enough of them to know which is correct or true size.

Both are correct. Baker 8.25/8.4 is 31.875", 8/8.12 is 31.5", and the 8.38 is 32" I believe.

As for the other bakerboys brands - Deathwish and Birdhouse 8.25 are both 31.5" but not the same mold or shape. The deathwish one is steeper and pointy (similar to baker), while the Birdhouse one is quite mellow for BBS and has more of a full shape with less tapering on the kicks. I really like the Birdhouse mold personally. Heroin is fucking weird and their 8.25 is like 32 with a 14.62 wb or something, I've tried to skate them a few times and it just feels totally foreign to me.

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Re: Woodshop Directory 2020 Thread
« Reply #834 on: December 14, 2020, 03:44:26 PM »
Black & White warning sticker at the front bolt holes is PS Stix?

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Re: Woodshop Directory 2020 Thread
« Reply #835 on: December 14, 2020, 08:38:55 PM »
Black & White warning sticker at the front bolt holes is PS Stix?

Alien Workshop had black and white stickers too, but they are BBS.

PS Stix should always have the info with serial number on the deck (see about half way up the current page)

SN# PS10101010101010

What was the board brand?  If you had any other info, so people can check for you.
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Re: Woodshop Directory 2020 Thread
« Reply #836 on: December 14, 2020, 09:32:34 PM »
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Black & White warning sticker at the front bolt holes is PS Stix?
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Alien Workshop had black and white stickers too, but they are BBS.

PS Stix should always have the info with serial number on the deck (see about half way up the current page)

SN# PS10101010101010

What was the board brand?  If you had any other info, so people can check for you.
Ah good to know, thanks
My friend gave me a 917 he was done with and I was looking at a new one. The mega-list has both PS Stix and BBS for 917.
The shape has steep concave at the width which I'm really digging

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Re: Woodshop Directory 2020 Thread
« Reply #837 on: December 14, 2020, 10:32:26 PM »
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Black & White warning sticker at the front bolt holes is PS Stix?
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Alien Workshop had black and white stickers too, but they are BBS.

PS Stix should always have the info with serial number on the deck (see about half way up the current page)

SN# PS10101010101010

What was the board brand?  If you had any other info, so people can check for you.
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Ah good to know, thanks
My friend gave me a 917 he was done with and I was looking at a new one. The mega-list has both PS Stix and BBS for 917.
The shape has steep concave at the width which I'm really digging

I could be wrong, but a lot of those steep concave with squared ends from companies like FA and Hockey were PS Stix but they now have almost the same shapes on BBS, or at least until PS Stix gets through their backlog of orders.

This link to pic is BBS, black white sticker, as is the next, red white sticker, both looking like regular shapes, not squared off though.




Hockey on BBS (squared off kicks):



The Hockey decks are hard to find with the old PS Stix top which has a pic, the SN line and Made in Mexico engraved, but this is what a couple look like (note the different placement of the warning sticker too):



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« Reply #838 on: December 15, 2020, 06:43:24 AM »
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Black & White warning sticker at the front bolt holes is PS Stix?
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Alien Workshop had black and white stickers too, but they are BBS.

PS Stix should always have the info with serial number on the deck (see about half way up the current page)

SN# PS10101010101010

What was the board brand?  If you had any other info, so people can check for you.
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Ah good to know, thanks
My friend gave me a 917 he was done with and I was looking at a new one. The mega-list has both PS Stix and BBS for 917.
The shape has steep concave at the width which I'm really digging
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I could be wrong, but a lot of those steep concave with squared ends from companies like FA and Hockey were PS Stix but they now have almost the same shapes on BBS, or at least until PS Stix gets through their backlog of orders.

This link to pic is BBS, black white sticker, as is the next, red white sticker, both looking like regular shapes, not squared off though.




Hockey on BBS (squared off kicks):



The Hockey decks are hard to find with the old PS Stix top which has a pic, the SN line and Made in Mexico engraved, but this is what a couple look like (note the different placement of the warning sticker too):




Okay that makes sense
I meant to say that the concave at the rails is what I'm into - the board feels stronger/snappier than some other BBS/Generator shapes I've ridden.
Appreciate the knowledge

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Re: Woodshop Directory 2020 Thread
« Reply #839 on: December 15, 2020, 03:06:24 PM »

Okay that makes sense
I meant to say that the concave at the rails is what I'm into - the board feels stronger/snappier than some other BBS/Generator shapes I've ridden.
Appreciate the knowledge

Reading back over it I don't know how I ended up on the square shape thing, but I think I was having another conversation with someone elsewhere who wanted the squared ends.

Regular decent shapes and normal concave in these boards, but I guess without having the ability to stand on any, it makes it harder to work out what you are after.

What size did you have or were looking at?
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