Venture 2020

[notinternetfamous]

ishod still riding ventures on the miles silvas soty trip in mexico

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I just plain don’t skate boards that big but what makes the bigger ventures so good?  I’d guess deeper turning?

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Definitely a factor. I'm putting the new awesome purps in my 5.8s rn.

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Where? how?

They just changed the formula or something.

The clear one's with the sparkling interior are the ones

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ishod still riding ventures on the miles silvas soty trip in mexico

i wonder if these are the dbl drilled ones.
is he skating 5.2 hi’s?

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I just plain don’t skate boards that big but what makes the bigger ventures so good?  I’d guess deeper turning?

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Definitely a factor. I'm putting the new awesome purps in my 5.8s rn.

I'll have a better idea after that.

I gotta make the 6.1 the PT truck. It's funny to say but I just can't hang. My kickflips at regular cruiser speed hit primo 1/5 on the 6.1. On the 5.8 it's like 1/15. Could be the 9" bloard or the Radial full.

I'm doing a full mix up and cleaning of surfaces as I type.

But yeah
The turn is the ultimate boner factor of the 6.1.

Plus I been watching Brian O'Dwyer's Baker has a death wish over and over. I'm kinda done pretending to be Kader for a few weeks. Ive been finding myself rolling around whistling When the lights go down in the city everywhere I go.

6.1 in the spring. 5.8s rn. I'd do my 5.6s but I'm feeling Uber lazy post illness. Illnesses. This season has been brutal.here.

i shouldn’t skate sizes that big, it does nothing for my skating.
i am of the firm belief that wider trucks turn less, and that is why i like them: stability.

flea: does kader skate 6.1s? does BOD skate 5.8s?
 just by the by, board/truck sizes seem to be creeping towards smaller, but i’m not sure. feels like i’m seeing more overhang, less hotrod, maybe folks moving towards 5.6, from 5.8. but that’s just glancing at videos, hard to tell.

as far as who i’m trying to invoke with my ventures….nick matthews, Lavar, Puleo

[Mbrimson88]

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ishod still riding ventures on the miles silvas soty trip in mexico

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i wonder if these are the dbl drilled ones.
is he skating 5.2 hi’s?

Guessing they are the same ones, really giving them a good go - they look well used on close inspection - hangers have some major grooves in them.


Also I think Kader was on a bigger board with 6.1 but now on 5.8s from what someone else had said / posted a while back, when he went down to a more normal size board, truck, wheel combo.

Could be wrong though as I don't really pay a whole lot of attention to him, but I have a Baker Kader 9 with 169s on it, all trade ins from others, which is kind of fun to stand on and compare.

[munchbox]

carl aikens pro v-hollow
5.2 low and 5.6

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carl aikens pro v-hollow
5.2 low and 5.6

looked at em for the 5.2L….my Lo’s rn are the gilbert cw from a few years back, and a raw truck would be nice.
not mad at how these look.
not gonna tho

[rocklobster]

carl aikens pro v-hollow
5.2 low and 5.6

I occasionally like to mix it up with a colored baseplate but this is an unfortunate color combination.

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I just plain don’t skate boards that big but what makes the bigger ventures so good?  I’d guess deeper turning?

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Definitely a factor. I'm putting the new awesome purps in my 5.8s rn.

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Where? how?

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They just changed the formula or something.

The clear one's with the sparkling interior are the ones

Right, but where/how did you get them? You said "I'm putting the new awesome purps in my 5.8s rn." did you swap them when new or something?

[iw0]

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carl aikens pro v-hollow
5.2 low and 5.6

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I occasionally like to mix it up with a colored baseplate but this is an unfortunate color combination.

the shirt color combo is p good tho

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carl aikens pro v-hollow
5.2 low and 5.6

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I occasionally like to mix it up with a colored baseplate but this is an unfortunate color combination.

It's horrible...at least top that shit off with gold hardware (FFS just  swap hardware between these and the Salt and Pepper, BOTH would look way better).

Also, lighting is everything - each looks like a different colorway

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The only thing I really see/hear is Thunder is probably doing something…..Venture is always going to be the stepchild and that’s why we love it…..

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Seeing Ishod ride Ventures with the double drilled baseplates gives me a glimmer of hope that we'd get something new, but I'm not holding my breath for that.

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i’d just like the measurements of the dbl drilled baseplate.

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The original six hole baseplates made it 3/8 difference on each truck, but I think those trucks are drilled about 1/4" each so a half inch shorter wheelbase in total, which works really well for some of those longer boards out there, especially if you like a little more in the tail too.

As Venture are longer in wheelbase anyway, it actually works out really well, on something like the DLX 8.38 board with 14.5 wb that comes down to 14 even, which is what I put those trucks on when I tried them out.


I still haven't seen any more about them, or tried drilling out any of these baseplates I have here, but it is on the to do list, that's for sure.

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i will bug you about this more, in the future

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I wonder if anyone has hit up DLX asking about double drilled Venture baseplates yet - could be a thing, or strictly DIY at your own risk type of deal.

Either way, it might make Venture an option for a whole lot more skaters if it was like that - baseplate drilled like a Thunder truck more in the middle than at the ends where it currently sits now.

I saw Tanner Burzinski post a setup pic a while back with double drilled ventures and assumed he did it himself but now I think we might be onto something.

[Mongo Lloyd]

So I have a question I’m hoping one of our resident gear freak scientists can assist with.

Basically I’m curious to try a set of 6.1 loose trucks, but I’m
Not 100% I’m going to take to them. As a precaution, and knowing Venture doesn’t sell aftermarket bushings.. I’m wondering if any of you can point me onto a set of after market bushings I can purchase that are comparable to the current bushings in a stick set of Ventures? (That felt like a mountain of explaining)!

As in, a replacement set of bushings that is drop in replacement, same size and durometer.

[onkalo]

So I have a question I’m hoping one of our resident gear freak scientists can assist with.

Basically I’m curious to try a set of 6.1 loose trucks, but I’m
Not 100% I’m going to take to them. As a precaution, and knowing Venture doesn’t sell aftermarket bushings.. I’m wondering if any of you can point me onto a set of after market bushings I can purchase that are comparable to the current bushings in a stick set of Ventures? (That felt like a mountain of explaining)!

As in, a replacement set of bushings that is drop in replacement, same size and durometer.

Deluxe supercush, indy bushings and doh dohs have worked well for me

[Made In China]

So I have a question I’m hoping one of our resident gear freak scientists can assist with.

Basically I’m curious to try a set of 6.1 loose trucks, but I’m
Not 100% I’m going to take to them. As a precaution, and knowing Venture doesn’t sell aftermarket bushings.. I’m wondering if any of you can point me onto a set of after market bushings I can purchase that are comparable to the current bushings in a stick set of Ventures? (That felt like a mountain of explaining)!

As in, a replacement set of bushings that is drop in replacement, same size and durometer.

I don't think this fits your bill, but I run my Ventures with their loose conversation kit and that works well for how loose I like my trucks. I think it's the same durometer as the stock bushings, just with a smaller top. There's a graphic on this link that explains it.

https://www.firstgearskateshop.com/product/venture-loose-truck-conversion-kit/4851

[Mongo Lloyd]

Awesome! You guys are the best, thank you.

I tend to like looser on wider setups, so my interest is piqued on these. I actually have a set of Indy aftermarket’s sitting in a bin, so if worse comes to worse that’s what I’ll do.

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I just plain don’t skate boards that big but what makes the bigger ventures so good?  I’d guess deeper turning?

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Definitely a factor. I'm putting the new awesome purps in my 5.8s rn.

I'll have a better idea after that.

I gotta make the 6.1 the PT truck. It's funny to say but I just can't hang. My kickflips at regular cruiser speed hit primo 1/5 on the 6.1. On the 5.8 it's like 1/15. Could be the 9" bloard or the Radial full.

I'm doing a full mix up and cleaning of surfaces as I type.

But yeah
The turn is the ultimate boner factor of the 6.1.

Plus I been watching Brian O'Dwyer's Baker has a death wish over and over. I'm kinda done pretending to be Kader for a few weeks. Ive been finding myself rolling around whistling When the lights go down in the city everywhere I go.

6.1 in the spring. 5.8s rn. I'd do my 5.6s but I'm feeling Uber lazy post illness. Illnesses. This season has been brutal.here.

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i shouldn’t skate sizes that big, it does nothing for my skating.
i am of the firm belief that wider trucks turn less, and that is why i like them: stability.

flea: does kader skate 6.1s? does BOD skate 5.8s?
 just by the by, board/truck sizes seem to be creeping towards smaller, but i’m not sure. feels like i’m seeing more overhang, less hotrod, maybe folks moving towards 5.6, from 5.8. but that’s just glancing at videos, hard to tell.

as far as who i’m trying to invoke with my ventures….nick matthews, Lavar, Puleo

I assumed he did. Remember he was riding 9" boards. That might be before tho.

After swapping the bushings over to the 5.8.  Either I gotta miracle set or the got the game changer formula.

I'm going to buy my next set in shop so I can single out the lighter purple bushings with the sparkling flake interior.
After that I'll know for 100 what happened.

Let hope the trend sticks around. Either way I got a set that barely freezes. Turn like a dream and got no obvious cracks forming.

I'm going to throw them in my old Indys sometime maybe. Indy super softs can hang in the winter at all.

I've had the loose trucks kit last winter and purps of broken bones the last like 4.

[Mbrimson88]

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Is it time for Venture 2024???


Anyway, I had a rainy day and decided to see if I could drill out a set of baseplates at 1/4" difference and it is not pretty but it worked.  Had a bit of a skate just on flat doing a few ollies and minimal other stuff, but the angle of pop is more mellow than my other 8.38 on Indy standards, so this might be too much unless they redo the baseplates to resemble Thunder truck baseplate hole patterns, more so than having it in this far.


Posted on Instagram (below) but if anyone wants better / more / other pics, I can take some as well.

Venture truck baseplate redrill

* Drill bit should be 5 mm, to fit nicely but you can use a smaller one and widen out the holes too.

People had been talking about this for a while now, Eric Koston and others doing it for years, but recently Ishod Wair had some redrilled Venture trucks on his board in some clips and people were keen to see if it was worth the hype, so I drilled out a set of old Venture 5.6 trucks I had and I can say it definitely makes street stuff a lot easier on one of my old second hand 8.38 boards that has a 14.5 wheelbase.

These ones I drilled at 1/4" difference, so although the new holes are almost into the old holes they should hold up better than in something else like redrilling a deck.

Note, I have some old six hole baseplates which have 3/8" difference which I had set up and skated before but I think the 1/4" difference is better, so total 1/2" all up on these ones, not 3/4" shorter wheelbase as per those other older six hole trucks.

My method was not at all pretty and I only used what I had, but the metal drill bit worked very easily to get through the baseplate material, with some wood, bricks and boards set up as a temporary jig to hold the baseplates.

I would definitely make a bit more effort and get a smaller drill bit if I was doing this again in new or other trucks, but it works and I got the baseplates on straight enough this time.

These sit in a lot more than my usual Indy standards on the same deck, so I would say this would work well on longer wheelbase boards with shorter kicks, like these DLX 8.38 decks.

Also used an angle grinder on the lettering to take it down where the nut sits too.

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Is it time for Venture 2024???


Anyway, I had a rainy day and decided to see if I could drill out a set of baseplates at 1/4" difference and it is not pretty but it worked.  Had a bit of a skate just on flat doing a few ollies and minimal other stuff, but the angle of pop is more mellow than my other 8.38 on Indy standards, so this might be too much unless they redo the baseplates to resemble Thunder truck baseplate hole patterns, more so than having it in this far.


Posted on Instagram (below) but if anyone wants better / more / other pics, I can take some as well.

Venture truck baseplate redrill

* Drill bit should be 5 mm, to fit nicely but you can use a smaller one and widen out the holes too.

People had been talking about this for a while now, Eric Koston and others doing it for years, but recently Ishod Wair had some redrilled Venture trucks on his board in some clips and people were keen to see if it was worth the hype, so I drilled out a set of old Venture 5.6 trucks I had and I can say it definitely makes street stuff a lot easier on one of my old second hand 8.38 boards that has a 14.5 wheelbase.

These ones I drilled at 1/4" difference, so although the new holes are almost into the old holes they should hold up better than in something else like redrilling a deck.

Note, I have some old six hole baseplates which have 3/8" difference which I had set up and skated before but I think the 1/4" difference is better, so total 1/2" all up on these ones, not 3/4" shorter wheelbase as per those other older six hole trucks.

My method was not at all pretty and I only used what I had, but the metal drill bit worked very easily to get through the baseplate material, with some wood, bricks and boards set up as a temporary jig to hold the baseplates.

I would definitely make a bit more effort and get a smaller drill bit if I was doing this again in new or other trucks, but it works and I got the baseplates on straight enough this time.

These sit in a lot more than my usual Indy standards on the same deck, so I would say this would work well on longer wheelbase boards with shorter kicks, like these DLX 8.38 decks.

Also used an angle grinder on the lettering to take it down where the nut sits too.

THANK YOU

[rikki]

Appreciate the effort. The tiny tiny space between the new and old holes looks pretty sketchy though. Wonder how that will hold in serious ass skating?

[rocklobster]

@Mbrimson88 doing DLX's work for them, thank you.

How much did it shift the wheelbase in? Always wondered what a Venture / Thunder / Indy hybrid would skate like, that isn't the new Royal standard.

[iw0]

Appreciate the effort. The tiny tiny space between the new and old holes looks pretty sketchy though. Wonder how that will hold in serious ass skating?

also would be my biggest worry if i decided to try this

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Appreciate the effort. The tiny tiny space between the new and old holes looks pretty sketchy though. Wonder how that will hold in serious ass skating?

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also would be my biggest worry if i decided to try this

I think if you plugged the old holes with something like JB weld that would provide enough strength for there to be no issue.

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Appreciate the effort. The tiny tiny space between the new and old holes looks pretty sketchy though. Wonder how that will hold in serious ass skating?

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also would be my biggest worry if i decided to try this

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I think if you plugged the old holes with something like JB weld that would provide enough strength for there to be no issue.

this satisfies my worry, thanks

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1/4” seems to be much much better, wheelbase wise, compared to 3/8”

[Mongo Lloyd]

Tried out the 6.1 loose truck today and it is entirely too loose for my skating. It feels great, even extremely fun to skate, but I flip my board a lot and it’s too unstable for that.

I would really love them if I was a cruiser type or intended to skate transition with Ventures (I’d just switch back to Ace).

So anyways that experience was extremely short lived, and I’m gonna use my usual doh doh’s.

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Tried out the 6.1 loose truck today and it is entirely too loose for my skating. It feels great, even extremely fun to skate, but I flip my board a lot and it’s too unstable for that.

I would really love them if I was a cruiser type or intended to skate transition with Ventures (I’d just switch back to Ace).

So anyways that experience was extremely short lived, and I’m gonna use my usual doh doh’s.

what doh doh’s do you like?

i’ve had a similar experience: for me, super loose ventures take away from their pop, which is my favorite aspect

[Mongo Lloyd]

I’ve always had great success with doh doh reds. Before Ace was producing hard bushings they were my go to.

*for reference I weigh about 180lbs*

[Mbrimson88]

I’ve always had great success with doh doh reds. Before Ace was producing hard bushings they were my go to.

*for reference I weigh about 180lbs*

I am about the same weight and when I tried the Venture bushings, they worked under certain conditions for me.  Nut flush was way too loose, but nut down approximately two threads where I would usually have the 92 duro low head bushings on my Indy trucks (then angle grinding off the top of the kingpin) they worked great.

Not suggesting to angle grind down the kingpin unless you have the truck down to axle or need the clearance, but that is the option I put forward to anyone who either needs them a little looser, or needs clearance.

I guess though people are very unwilling to have the nut down further so kingpin threads are showing, which I totally understand too - kingpins are not fun to catch on anything, compared to the softer metal of the nuts which don't cause grind hangups, etc.


If you did put them back in and try them not by looking at how many threads are showing but doing them up to where it is comfortable for your turn and stability, they work well once they break in nicely - often just a session or two as per any usual stock Venture bushings anyway.


* On the other hand, if you feel like the Doh Doh reds at 95 duro are most comfortable, then I totally understand that too.  Firmer bushings are way better for pretty much everything, but even to trim them down some, they still allow for turn without mushing out too much.

[Mongo Lloyd]

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I’ve always had great success with doh doh reds. Before Ace was producing hard bushings they were my go to.

*for reference I weigh about 180lbs*

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I am about the same weight and when I tried the Venture bushings, they worked under certain conditions for me.  Nut flush was way too loose, but nut down approximately two threads where I would usually have the low head bushings on my Indy trucks (then angle grinding off the top of the kingpin) they worked great.

Not suggesting to angle grind down the kingpin unless you have the truck down to axle or need the clearance, but that is the option I put forward to anyone who either needs them a little looser, or needs clearance.

I guess though people are very unwilling to have the nut down further so kingpin threads are showing, which I totally understand too - kingpins are not fun to catch on anything, compared to the softer metal of the nuts which don't cause grind hangups, etc.


If you did put them back in and try them not by looking at how many threads are showing but doing them up to where it is comfortable for your turn and stability, they work well once they break in nicely - often just a session or two as per any usual stock Venture bushings anyway.

This is solid advice. I’m not personally precious or superstitious about threads showing, so I may give this a shake. I mean I’d like to be able to use these for their intended purpose. Maybe I won’t be so hasty to swap just yet.

I’ll report back my findings after I put more time in.