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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #1800 on: August 11, 2021, 07:05:11 AM »
Tried Bones medium. They were OK. The soft Supercush are far better. I like my bushings to be 100% urethane, no plastic.
I can respect that. I think I'll try the supercush with my next new pair of venture. I have the thrasher colab with the yellow baseplates in 5.8 HI on ice.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #1801 on: August 11, 2021, 08:28:50 PM »
I’m sure it’s already been brought up on this thread at some point, but is there/has there been any discussion of Venture eventually making lows in the 5.6/8.25” size?  This would provide the next chapter of set-up madness that has been missing in my life.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #1802 on: August 11, 2021, 11:03:17 PM »
I’m sure it’s already been brought up on this thread at some point, but is there/has there been any discussion of Venture eventually making lows in the 5.6/8.25” size?  This would provide the next chapter of set-up madness that has been missing in my life.

Agreed, I need 5.6 Los in my life. Even with the forged baseplate the 5.6 could get a little lower.
Venture Truck Height:

5.0 & 5.2 LO
STANDARD - 1.88” - 47.75mm
FORGED - 1.85”- 46.99mm

5.0 ,5.2, 5.6, 5.8 & 6.1 HI
STANDARD - 2.09” - 53.09mm
FORGED - 2.04” - 51.82m

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #1803 on: August 11, 2021, 11:16:22 PM »
Agreed too but they'll never do it.....what about a mid!! J/K.....no one ever asked for a mid...

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #1804 on: August 12, 2021, 05:23:55 AM »
Agreed too but they'll never do it.....what about a mid!! J/K.....no one ever asked for a mid...
Venture had a mid in 5.2 I had them a few years ago and they were great. Perfect with 52s

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #1805 on: August 12, 2021, 07:25:14 AM »
i've been skating titanium hangers with cast plates and 54mm classic f4s for the past 2 years or so.  i just ordered some 52mm's and was thinking about switching to the forged plates.  what kind of difference if any do you think i would experience? 

i could just wait to test it out but the wheels dont come until monday so im trying to cure my curiosity here lol

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #1806 on: August 12, 2021, 09:15:11 AM »
i've been skating titanium hangers with cast plates and 54mm classic f4s for the past 2 years or so.  i just ordered some 52mm's and was thinking about switching to the forged plates.  what kind of difference if any do you think i would experience? 

i could just wait to test it out but the wheels dont come until monday so im trying to cure my curiosity here lol

I currently ride essentially the reverse setup as you do (cast bobby 5.8 hangers/forged plates from prod 5.8 Ti's), and am keeping the setup yours resembles on ice.  From what I gleaned from Slap: I think cast plates on Ti hangers pull your truck WB in a little tighter, ~.10-.25". So putting on the forged would increase the WB.  I *think*.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #1807 on: August 13, 2021, 04:11:43 AM »
^^yesssir!  you’re definitely correct about that, the forged push the wb out more than the cast.  i was more so curious about the height reduction from switching plates and also getting smaller wheels!


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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #1808 on: August 13, 2021, 06:00:23 AM »
^^yesssir!  you’re definitely correct about that, the forged push the wb out more than the cast.  i was more so curious about the height reduction from switching plates and also getting smaller wheels!

I'm on Franken-Ventures (5.6 Ti Hanger, Cast baseplate), on 54mm Slim wheels, ride them semi loose. Wheelbite is definitely still a thing, but often but more often than I would like. 52mm would have been my preference.
Venture Truck Height:

5.0 & 5.2 LO
STANDARD - 1.88” - 47.75mm
FORGED - 1.85”- 46.99mm

5.0 ,5.2, 5.6, 5.8 & 6.1 HI
STANDARD - 2.09” - 53.09mm
FORGED - 2.04” - 51.82m

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #1809 on: August 15, 2021, 11:24:56 AM »
some weird madness ahead...

I'm riding 5.6 hollow highs with bones medium and riptide pivot cups since quite some time now – a year? don't know for sure. replaced the cups because the ogs where squeaking all the time, no matter what I put in them. but since two months or something, my setup feels crazy loose, kind of wobbly. even get a little jiggle when I'm "loading up" to pop when I'm fast, which really messes with my mind. already tightened the trucks a bit. two times actually. now I noticed that one pivot cup has a small crack in it (nothing big, I don't think thats it) and gear nerd ben degros just posted a video about indy-vs-bones-bushings, where he describes the bones to give in after about a month, getting smaller, messing with the geometry of the truck etc. anybody else has the same issue? didn't notice it as much, but since I just set up a new board two weeks ago and it felt great in the beginning, I'm questioning everything right now. should just stop watching ben degros and skate.

thanks for any input.

also: all the people that recommended fa/hockey 8.18 + venture 5.6s... did you also experience a crazy change in regular, but especially nollie-pop after about a week of constant skating that combination? nollie pop is gone, starting to pop half cab tricks that have to come up high from the nose as well, because the tail doesn't feel as "jumpy/lever-y" as it did in the first week.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #1810 on: August 19, 2021, 03:22:46 PM »
What's up grinders. Ace head here. Ventures are the only trucks I've never tried other than a few others not worth getting fomo over (krux, etc).

I dig how low the kingpin sits on venture hi's. If I throw in some Bones bushings or supercush softs, maybe swap the pivot cups for some riptides and pair these on a 14"-14.25" wheelbase, will I still end up hating these trucks, seeing as I only ride Ace?

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #1811 on: August 19, 2021, 03:32:32 PM »
What's up grinders. Ace head here. Ventures are the only trucks I've never tried other than a few others not worth getting fomo over (krux, etc).

I dig how low the kingpin sits on venture hi's. If I throw in some Bones bushings or supercush softs, maybe swap the pivot cups for some riptides and pair these on a 14"-14.25" wheelbase, will I still end up hating these trucks, seeing as I only ride Ace?

if you like Ace’s bc of the turn you will likely not enjoy Ventures.  they dont carve similarly at all imo, and ventures have a lean before their turn begins.  they will feel much more stable so you may like them in that regard but depending on your skating it could be really hit or miss

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #1812 on: August 19, 2021, 03:33:46 PM »
@logjammin Mostly ride Ace also but dabbled with Venture (88a Supercush ungraded bushings). I didn't hate them but I was under no illusion they would turn anything like Ace. They have their advantages, depending on what you want from them. If you want a low kingpin and a truck that feels super stable when setting up for tricks- try them. If you don't want a super delayed turn, don't bother.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #1813 on: August 19, 2021, 04:24:34 PM »
Does anybody knows or thinks that's there's a 9-9,1 width ventures in the works? I want to go up to 9" decks but I don't want to leave ventures, they just feel perfect.

I tried to skate trucks with wider boards and doesn't work for me.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #1814 on: August 19, 2021, 04:25:36 PM »
Thanks for the replies dudes, the stability and low kingpin sound like the main things going for them. I could use both of those aspects after being on loose Ace's for so long. But sacrificing the turn might be a deal breaker. Considering I suck at flips and street skating in general, I need the most tranny, slappy, curb friendly type geometry I can get

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #1815 on: August 19, 2021, 10:34:07 PM »
They are usually a lot lighter and widen the wheelbase if you care about that....ace gear is low key not bad but venture is superior...

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #1816 on: August 19, 2021, 11:06:21 PM »
They are usually a lot lighter and widen the wheelbase if you care about that....ace gear is low key not bad but venture is superior...

LOs with a forged baseplate have the best pinch in the business. I feel much more confident going for long crooked grinds on those than any other truck.
Venture Truck Height:

5.0 & 5.2 LO
STANDARD - 1.88” - 47.75mm
FORGED - 1.85”- 46.99mm

5.0 ,5.2, 5.6, 5.8 & 6.1 HI
STANDARD - 2.09” - 53.09mm
FORGED - 2.04” - 51.82m

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #1817 on: August 22, 2021, 06:03:24 PM »
Pulled the trigger on some 5.8 standards and put em on an 8.5" board with a 14.25" wheelbase. Supercush clears 88a bushings and I waxed the pivot cups. I'm heavier so there was tons of wheelbite at first. Took them off and put some Bones 1/8" risers underneath. That's when things clicked...I fucking love these trucks. Still an excellent turn, just as good as Indy and even more stable. The grind is nice and smooth, and the no hang-up yoke with the low kingpin allows me to not have to worry about inverted kingpins. I'm kinda shocked after all these years on Ace that I ended up here but it's kind of a funny and cool feeling. Ventures from here on out, cheers gents.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #1818 on: August 22, 2021, 08:34:33 PM »
Has anyone ever written Venture and asked why they don't do a Cast Hollow or Cast Ti? It seems everyone I know frankentrucks and almost no one rides forged plates.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #1819 on: August 22, 2021, 08:40:36 PM »
Pulled the trigger on some 5.8 standards and put em on an 8.5" board with a 14.25" wheelbase. Supercush clears 88a bushings and I waxed the pivot cups. I'm heavier so there was tons of wheelbite at first. Took them off and put some Bones 1/8" risers underneath. That's when things clicked...I fucking love these trucks. Still an excellent turn, just as good as Indy and even more stable. The grind is nice and smooth, and the no hang-up yoke with the low kingpin allows me to not have to worry about inverted kingpins. I'm kinda shocked after all these years on Ace that I ended up here but it's kind of a funny and cool feeling. Ventures from here on out, cheers gents.
Hell yeah man. I just bought some 1/4" risers for my 5.8's and it's a game changer. I've tried riding other trucks but I always end up back on venture. I'll only ride Indy's if I have to.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #1820 on: August 23, 2021, 05:21:29 AM »
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Pulled the trigger on some 5.8 standards and put em on an 8.5" board with a 14.25" wheelbase. Supercush clears 88a bushings and I waxed the pivot cups. I'm heavier so there was tons of wheelbite at first. Took them off and put some Bones 1/8" risers underneath. That's when things clicked...I fucking love these trucks. Still an excellent turn, just as good as Indy and even more stable. The grind is nice and smooth, and the no hang-up yoke with the low kingpin allows me to not have to worry about inverted kingpins. I'm kinda shocked after all these years on Ace that I ended up here but it's kind of a funny and cool feeling. Ventures from here on out, cheers gents.
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Hell yeah man. I just bought some 1/4" risers for my 5.8's and it's a game changer. I've tried riding other trucks but I always end up back on venture. I'll only ride Indy's if I have to.

I'll never go back to Indy man, Ace if I had to step off the Ventures. What size wheels do you run with such a high set-up?

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #1821 on: August 23, 2021, 10:44:14 AM »
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Pulled the trigger on some 5.8 standards and put em on an 8.5" board with a 14.25" wheelbase. Supercush clears 88a bushings and I waxed the pivot cups. I'm heavier so there was tons of wheelbite at first. Took them off and put some Bones 1/8" risers underneath. That's when things clicked...I fucking love these trucks. Still an excellent turn, just as good as Indy and even more stable. The grind is nice and smooth, and the no hang-up yoke with the low kingpin allows me to not have to worry about inverted kingpins. I'm kinda shocked after all these years on Ace that I ended up here but it's kind of a funny and cool feeling. Ventures from here on out, cheers gents.
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Hell yeah man. I just bought some 1/4" risers for my 5.8's and it's a game changer. I've tried riding other trucks but I always end up back on venture. I'll only ride Indy's if I have to.
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I'll never go back to Indy man, Ace if I had to step off the Ventures. What size wheels do you run with such a high set-up?
Yeah I don't blame you man. I've never tried ace and I think it's best that I don't lmao. Bit I usually ride 54 mm wheels. Now that my bushings are breaking in I don't think I need the risers.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #1822 on: August 23, 2021, 05:16:34 PM »
I switched over from ace and I’m never going back. Regular 5.6 is the gold standard truck as far as I’m concerned

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #1823 on: August 24, 2021, 09:55:41 AM »
just got back from my first skate after putting in the supercush orange 90a bushings with a flat washer and 1/8 risers - fucking brilliant. i've always been the kind of person who when it comes to new trucks/bushings/etc i will fiddle with the tightness/adjust them a shit ton, absolutely none of that with these and more importantly no wheelbite. was throwing a back 180 down this little drop off and kept doing that annoying shit where you lean too much and end up doing a full fucking curve and coming back the direction you started - no pinch whatsoever.

ive been fucking around with trucks the last few years and my ranking was thunder > stock venture > indy but i think this setup has usurped thunder to take top place. fucking lovely.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #1824 on: August 24, 2021, 10:10:33 AM »
I switched over from ace and I’m never going back. Regular 5.6 is the gold standard truck as far as I’m concerned

I have the 5.6 in Titanium and V-Hollow but I still feel compelled to get the Standard, it just looks proper.
Venture Truck Height:

5.0 & 5.2 LO
STANDARD - 1.88” - 47.75mm
FORGED - 1.85”- 46.99mm

5.0 ,5.2, 5.6, 5.8 & 6.1 HI
STANDARD - 2.09” - 53.09mm
FORGED - 2.04” - 51.82m

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #1825 on: August 24, 2021, 05:58:14 PM »
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I switched over from ace and I’m never going back. Regular 5.6 is the gold standard truck as far as I’m concerned
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I have the 5.6 in Titanium and V-Hollow but I still feel compelled to get the Standard, it just looks proper.

I'm riding 5.6 regular and feel compelled to get some V-hollows.
As for the 5.6 being gold standard I concur, last rode ventures 15 years ago and have just gone back after I quick dance with thunders then a long term with Indy, best decision I made, love em. (8.25 Deluxe and 53mm spities)

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #1826 on: August 29, 2021, 06:46:15 PM »
Next setup imma get will be 8.25 mellowish deck with 5.8s, 1/8 risers, and 56mm wheels

Rn its 8.25 with 149 thunders, 1/8 risers, and 54s

before it was 8.5 with ace 44 classics and 53s

I feel like its how my evolution is supposed to be like. Shittier feeling grinds, better stability, bigger wheels, better pinch.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #1827 on: August 30, 2021, 08:06:18 AM »
Does anybody knows or thinks that's there's a 9-9,1 width ventures in the works? I want to go up to 9" decks but I don't want to leave ventures, they just feel perfect.

I tried to skate trucks with wider boards and doesn't work for me.

was wondering bout the same thing, whether there's a 9.0/9.125 venture in the near future..otherwise,hv to go thunder 161s.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #1828 on: September 01, 2021, 02:34:26 PM »
whoever recommended those deluxe orange bushings...youre a god

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #1829 on: September 01, 2021, 03:15:13 PM »
Still have a pair of cast Bobby’s but where are you all finding 5.8 Ti trucks. I haven’t seen any Venture TI in the wild in a longggg time…
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