Venture 2020

[Mbrimson88]

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My stock purples have now broken in, and I feel comfy with the forged plates. However, during some cold spring days I noticed the stock bushings freeze up pretty bad. So I guess I need a plan for fall. Any recommendations? I have blue Indys in ice, are they any better in cold conditions?

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I guess all "normal" bushings go hard in cold conditions. Bones bushings don't do that, at least not to the extent of Ventures/Indys, so you could probably try that route. Bones Mediums would probably do the trick, as the Hards are pretty friggin' hard by default.

I don't have a really cold climate change here, but even just the difference between getting the board out on a cold morning, compared to when I am ready to put it away, I often feel like the bushings are pretty firm feeling out the door.

This might not help whatsoever in really cold conditions, but keeping the board inside with you and just doing some stand still side to side / heel to toe type movements on it on carpet or a mat or something before heading out can help a whole lot to warm the bushings up a bit so they feel a bit more normal.

Failing that, as said Bones and I think Ace bushings also don't freeze the way some others do - Venture, Thunder, Indy are all in that category - softer when warm, way more firm when cold.

[art hellman]

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My stock purples have now broken in, and I feel comfy with the forged plates. However, during some cold spring days I noticed the stock bushings freeze up pretty bad. So I guess I need a plan for fall. Any recommendations? I have blue Indys in ice, are they any better in cold conditions?

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I guess all "normal" bushings go hard in cold conditions. Bones bushings don't do that, at least not to the extent of Ventures/Indys, so you could probably try that route. Bones Mediums would probably do the trick, as the Hards are pretty friggin' hard by default.

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I don't have a really cold climate change here, but even just the difference between getting the board out on a cold morning, compared to when I am ready to put it away, I often feel like the bushings are pretty firm feeling out the door.

This might not help whatsoever in really cold conditions, but keeping the board inside with you and just doing some stand still side to side / heel to toe type movements on it on carpet or a mat or something before heading out can help a whole lot to warm the bushings up a bit so they feel a bit more normal.

Failing that, as said Bones and I think Ace bushings also don't freeze the way some others do - Venture, Thunder, Indy are all in that category - softer when warm, way more firm when cold.

i skate through the winters here in the midwest (when dry patches are available or in above ground parking garages) and the indy aftermarket bushings (med) have never frozen up on me

[Mbrimson88]

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My stock purples have now broken in, and I feel comfy with the forged plates. However, during some cold spring days I noticed the stock bushings freeze up pretty bad. So I guess I need a plan for fall. Any recommendations? I have blue Indys in ice, are they any better in cold conditions?

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i skate through the winters here in the midwest (when dry patches are available or in above ground parking garages) and the indy aftermarket bushings (med) have never frozen up on me

That is good to know - so it might just be the stock Indy bushings that have the same issues as others - stock Venture and stock Thunder bushings that also tend to firm up a bit more, but as you said the aftermarket Indy bushings do not have those issues.

[Musicaldeath107]

My stock purples have now broken in, and I feel comfy with the forged plates. However, during some cold spring days I noticed the stock bushings freeze up pretty bad. So I guess I need a plan for fall. Any recommendations? I have blue Indys in ice, are they any better in cold conditions?

I know they aren't the cool bushing but Doh Doh's work and do well in the cold, plus they fit Ventures

[Bongwater Mojito]

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My stock purples have now broken in, and I feel comfy with the forged plates. However, during some cold spring days I noticed the stock bushings freeze up pretty bad. So I guess I need a plan for fall. Any recommendations? I have blue Indys in ice, are they any better in cold conditions?

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I guess all "normal" bushings go hard in cold conditions. Bones bushings don't do that, at least not to the extent of Ventures/Indys, so you could probably try that route. Bones Mediums would probably do the trick, as the Hards are pretty friggin' hard by default.

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I don't have a really cold climate change here, but even just the difference between getting the board out on a cold morning, compared to when I am ready to put it away, I often feel like the bushings are pretty firm feeling out the door.

This might not help whatsoever in really cold conditions, but keeping the board inside with you and just doing some stand still side to side / heel to toe type movements on it on carpet or a mat or something before heading out can help a whole lot to warm the bushings up a bit so they feel a bit more normal.

Failing that, as said Bones and I think Ace bushings also don't freeze the way some others do - Venture, Thunder, Indy are all in that category - softer when warm, way more firm when cold.

I think Ventures have been the worst I have experienced in few years. In 0C the bushings felt like stones. I remember skating Aces in -5C without huge issues, they're stiffer of course.

As said, I have blue Indy aftermarkets unopened, if they manage cold better, could work that way.

But first let's enjoy the summer...

[Xen]

Blue 92s year round!

[ARealWombat]

Anyone know if there's a difference between the cast baseplates that come on the Hi and Lo trucks?

I currently have a set of 5.2 Venture Hi and Lo, both with forged baseplates. I want to keep a set of cast baseplates around in case I want to try them out, I'm very happy with the forged plates (and they're what I'm accustomed to) but I like to keep options around. I'm on the forged lows right now with 50mm wheels, it's been a good setup and I love how fast and responsively the tail hits, but it's definitely a low-rider setup and I want to experiment with some different heights.

I can just disassemble the trucks at home and compare but thought someone here would already know. Also (just rambling now) I only ride 8" boards, may try an 8.13" at some point but considering that I like to stay on low(er) trucks like Ventures with a max ~53mm height to keep things proportional to the width of my board.

[rocklobster]

Anyone know if there's a difference between the cast baseplates that come on the Hi and Lo trucks?

I currently have a set of 5.2 Venture Hi and Lo, both with forged baseplates. I want to keep a set of cast baseplates around in case I want to try them out, I'm very happy with the forged plates (and they're what I'm accustomed to) but I like to keep options around. I'm on the forged lows right now with 50mm wheels, it's been a good setup and I love how fast and responsively the tail hits, but it's definitely a low-rider setup and I want to experiment with some different heights.

I can just disassemble the trucks at home and compare but thought someone here would already know. Also (just rambling now) I only ride 8" boards, may try an 8.13" at some point but considering that I like to stay on low(er) trucks like Ventures with a max ~53mm height to keep things proportional to the width of my board.

No difference in the cast baseplates for Hi and Lo trucks, height difference is from different hanger design

[ARealWombat]

Cool beans. I think the forged hi's may be the perfect middle ground for me, but like I said - I like keeping options around.

[southphillytapwater]

Did Venture change their bushings recently? I bought a pair of the Skate Jawn cast hollows off a Pal and they feel much looser than I remember. Before, I couldn't skate Ventures without the Bones flat top washer but on these the turn feels perfect stock. It's probably been a year or two since the last time I bought a pair. The bushings are clear red, so I know they're not the loose truck ones.

[CarcassToss]

I have had a set of purples recently that were softer (~1/2-3/4 turn tighter nut) but all others were normal. I've been riding cast hollows (Manderson and Kader eyeballs) with green, purple, and reds and they're all about the same.

As someone above mentioned my Ventures feel like a slightly lower, more stable Indy standard with 92's in except that they don't make feel racist and my representative clothing doesn't have as bro of slogans on it.

[Xen]

Did Venture change their bushings recently? I bought a pair of the Skate Jawn cast hollows off a Pal and they feel much looser than I remember. Before, I couldn't skate Ventures without the Bones flat top washer but on these the turn feels perfect stock. It's probably been a year or two since the last time I bought a pair. The bushings are clear red, so I know they're not the loose truck ones.

I have a pair of the 8.5 Jawns, first Ventures I've skated stock; second pair was a new set of 8.25s with purples, they both skated great, no need to swap for anything else (I still swap out for a bones top washer tho).

[CarcassToss]

My Venture tops haven't disintegrated recently, which seemed common at the start of this thread. Maybe they changed when they moved to Mexico? The nice thing about them being a standard size is a billion brands are workable so worst case I blow out and pop Indy bushings in or something.

[chaosisme]

Bones flat top washer on venture stock bushings (regular bottom washer)
No threads showing, literally absolutely perfect trucks, I’ve been skating ventures my whole life, I definitely used to skate them unbelievably loose and I’m not sure how I used to get them that way but this very easy modification makes so much difference, perfect turn, perfect amount of wobble.

Also, I’m skating an 8.5 deck with a 14.5 wheelbase and can confirm that wheelbase makes little to no difference, i will stand by this. Think less, fun more.

[Xen]

Think less, fun more.

[GT]

I see lots of ideas here but have to ask so I can make it easier, hard bushings for ventures?
I usually get the blue replacement/rebuild kits for thunders which I like and want the same tight feeling not turning truck.
Any suggestions please?

[MxsDx]

I see lots of ideas here but have to ask so I can make it easier, hard bushings for ventures?
I usually get the blue replacement/rebuild kits for thunders which I like and want the same tight feeling not turning truck.
Any suggestions please?

Indy hard (94 duro), or super hard (96) will work. Just make sure not to get the stage 4 replacement bushings.

[GT]

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I see lots of ideas here but have to ask so I can make it easier, hard bushings for ventures?
I usually get the blue replacement/rebuild kits for thunders which I like and want the same tight feeling not turning truck.
Any suggestions please?

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Indy hard (94 duro), or super hard (96) will work. Just make sure not to get the stage 4 replacement bushings.

Thank you!!

[ambiguousclarity]

I have had a set of purples recently that were softer (~1/2-3/4 turn tighter nut) but all others were normal. I've been riding cast hollows (Manderson and Kader eyeballs) with green, purple, and reds and they're all about the same.

As someone above mentioned my Ventures feel like a slightly lower, more stable Indy standard with 92's in except that they don't make feel racist and my representative clothing doesn't have as bro of slogans on it.

I've just set up some Venture standards with the purple bushings which are very soft. So much so, they're wheel biting rocking heel to toe without rolling. Do they firm up like thunder bushings?

[CarcassToss]

If you can find the old Supercush bushings they make a purple 97 and I think a 94. Really rare now it seems.

My Venture bushings feel great from day 1 I don't think they change much. I think with this set they came flush with the nylock and I tightened a half turn and they feel great to this day.

[Xen]

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I see lots of ideas here but have to ask so I can make it easier, hard bushings for ventures?
I usually get the blue replacement/rebuild kits for thunders which I like and want the same tight feeling not turning truck.
Any suggestions please?

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Indy hard (94 duro), or super hard (96) will work. Just make sure not to get the stage 4 replacement bushings.

This is the correct answer. 96a are damn hard.

[Mbrimson88]

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I have had a set of purples recently that were softer (~1/2-3/4 turn tighter nut) but all others were normal. I've been riding cast hollows (Manderson and Kader eyeballs) with green, purple, and reds and they're all about the same.

As someone above mentioned my Ventures feel like a slightly lower, more stable Indy standard with 92's in except that they don't make feel racist and my representative clothing doesn't have as bro of slogans on it.

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I've just set up some Venture standards with the purple bushings which are very soft. So much so, they're wheel biting rocking heel to toe without rolling. Do they firm up like thunder bushings?

They do seem to vary a bit, some firm up a lot, some not so much.

Any bushing from day one for a few sessions usually is going to be mushy and have little resistance, but most start to feel good after a week of skating for me, unless I really put in a lot of effort and just cruise around for a session or two, in which case they end up coming good a lot sooner.

It can also be the coating on some of the truck parts - hanger especially - or the bushings themselves, so if they do feel a little too squishy or mushy, take things apart, wipe everything down with something that really cleans anything off and they might feel a bit better.

Did that not long ago with a new set of Indy trucks that just didn't feel right, but after wiping down they were much better, more normal feeling.

[j....soy.....]

Yo ever say to soemone who’s skating ventures: ‘how you like those ventures?!?!’  And they act like…. ‘Dude they are just trucks…..’

[SupremePizza]

Everyone I've ran into says something along the lines of "I skated Venture when I was a kid" but no ones ever said that. Most people I meet seem to skate Indy and then once  in awhile I meet a guy on ace or thunder

[rocklobster]

I skated Ventures first as a child, and now I return to it as a man child.

Stay AWAKE fam.

[ambiguousclarity]

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I have had a set of purples recently that were softer (~1/2-3/4 turn tighter nut) but all others were normal. I've been riding cast hollows (Manderson and Kader eyeballs) with green, purple, and reds and they're all about the same.

As someone above mentioned my Ventures feel like a slightly lower, more stable Indy standard with 92's in except that they don't make feel racist and my representative clothing doesn't have as bro of slogans on it.

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I've just set up some Venture standards with the purple bushings which are very soft. So much so, they're wheel biting rocking heel to toe without rolling. Do they firm up like thunder bushings?

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They do seem to vary a bit, some firm up a lot, some not so much.

Any bushing from day one for a few sessions usually is going to be mushy and have little resistance, but most start to feel good after a week of skating for me, unless I really put in a lot of effort and just cruise around for a session or two, in which case they end up coming good a lot sooner.

It can also be the coating on some of the truck parts - hanger especially - or the bushings themselves, so if they do feel a little too squishy or mushy, take things apart, wipe everything down with something that really cleans anything off and they might feel a bit better.

Did that not long ago with a new set of Indy trucks that just didn't feel right, but after wiping down they were much better, more normal feeling.

Thanks MBirmison88. I didn't know that about new trucks. I ended up replacing the stock bushings with Thunder bushings 94 bottom and 97 top and it worked nicely. I'll likely switch to a softer bushing combo as it gets colder here in Aus. First time on Ventures. Had a relaxed 3 hour skate and was surprised by how comfortable they were to skate. I've read many comments about Venture's lack of turn, but it felt fine to me. Paired with a 8.5 Krooked Worrest deck (14.25 WB). I skate a fair bit of tranny and am keen to try them on something a bit tighter than the park I skated today.

[GT]

Anyone skate 5.0 with 8" boards?
Back in the day I remember it was 5.0 or 5.25 where up to 8 we skated 5.0 sometimes and Or 5.25 on 7.75 7.6...

[Fifty8mm]

Anyone skate 5.0 with 8" boards?
Back in the day I remember it was 5.0 or 5.25 where up to 8 we skated 5.0 sometimes and Or 5.25 on 7.75 7.6...

I've done this recently,
Baker 8
Venture lo 5.0
Spits 50mm

Flipped like nobodys business, slappied fucking great too.
Idk why slappy guys are obsessed with wide set ups. I slappy better with narrower kits.

Doesn't look clownish eithers. You can use two washers inside for a uniform look.

Right now I'm riding a 8.25 with 5.2 los. It also flips amazing. I love it. It's cool to now i can size up or down now with no real adjustment cause i could use venture lows from 7.5 to 8.25. I could skate graphics i actually like.

[Xen]

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Anyone skate 5.0 with 8" boards?
Back in the day I remember it was 5.0 or 5.25 where up to 8 we skated 5.0 sometimes and Or 5.25 on 7.75 7.6...

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I've done this recently,
Baker 8
Venture lo 5.0
Spits 50mm

Flipped like nobodys business, slappied fucking great too.
Idk why slappy guys are obsessed with wide set ups. I slappy better with narrower kits.

Doesn't look clownish eithers. You can use two washers inside for a uniform look.

Right now I'm riding a 8.25 with 5.2 los. It also flips amazing. I love it. It's cool to now i can size up or down now with no real adjustment cause i could use venture lows from 7.5 to 8.25. I could skate graphics i actually like.

Their logic is:

Wider board is more stable
Wider (and loose) trucks allow them to roll on and off easier
Bigger wheels roll on and off easier

...and more than half of them gave up on flip tricks because their boards are unruly now. Self fullfilling prochecy. They've literally given up.

I say it all the time: Slappy specific boards (what the last resort crowd uses) help you lose tricks. I don't lose slappy tricks on smaller setups.

And of course, there are exceptions (curbkiller).

[Fifty8mm]

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Anyone skate 5.0 with 8" boards?
Back in the day I remember it was 5.0 or 5.25 where up to 8 we skated 5.0 sometimes and Or 5.25 on 7.75 7.6...

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I've done this recently,
Baker 8
Venture lo 5.0
Spits 50mm

Flipped like nobodys business, slappied fucking great too.
Idk why slappy guys are obsessed with wide set ups. I slappy better with narrower kits.

Doesn't look clownish eithers. You can use two washers inside for a uniform look.

Right now I'm riding a 8.25 with 5.2 los. It also flips amazing. I love it. It's cool to now i can size up or down now with no real adjustment cause i could use venture lows from 7.5 to 8.25. I could skate graphics i actually like.

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Their logic is:

Wider board is more stable
Wider (and loose) trucks allow them to roll on and off easier
Bigger wheels roll on and off easier

...and more than half of them gave up on flip tricks because their boards are unruly now. Self fullfilling prochecy. They've literally given up.

I say it all the time: Slappy specific boards (what the last resort crowd uses) help you lose tricks. I don't lose slappy tricks on smaller setups.

And of course, there are exceptions (curbkiller).

I think it might only be good to have big boards if you have good board control or skate mostly tranny. I can't slappy crooks that well on a bigger board with indys.  I prefer a 775 with lo ventures for slapping. Rather deal with wheelbite than a big ass board.

Also magic carpeting on low trucks is perfect. The board helps you get in position since its the first point of contact.

Also i wheelbite less with magic carpet.