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Do moves effect minds
« on: February 11, 2020, 10:56:06 AM »
Or is it the other way around? like when I indy grab I'm pretty confidence that its me having an affect on the move I'm trying to pull. But its just a thought that the move you're doing might have more of an impact on the mind of the skateboarder whilst realizing the trick. Mind you this isn't simply chicken or egg which comes first, and the answer cant be as simple as mind over matter can it? <3  :-\ shalom

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Re: Do moves effect minds
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2020, 11:00:09 AM »
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Re: Do moves effect minds
« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2020, 11:00:21 AM »
I've had a better understanding of what is happening around me while smoking Salvia as a passenger in a moving vehicle than reading your post


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Re: Do moves effect minds
« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2020, 11:04:37 AM »
Or is it the other way around? like when I indy grab I'm pretty confidence that its me having an affect on the move I'm trying to pull. But its just a thought that the move you're doing might have more of an impact on the mind of the skateboarder whilst realizing the trick. Mind you this isn't simply chicken or egg which comes first, and the answer cant be as simple as mind over matter can it? <3  :-\ shalom

Mind you, as a matter of fact, it is mind over matter.   I have the utmost confident in it.

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Re: Do moves effect minds
« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2020, 11:11:56 AM »
Fast answers today boys all Iím trying to figure out is whether itís all in my head or if thereís some feedback from the skateboard itself, is it silly to think of the board as having this kind of narrative on the boarder. Are we one with the wooden toy? Or what kind of ratio can we find

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« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2020, 11:12:29 AM »
I've had a better understanding of what is happening around me while smoking Salvia as a passenger in a moving vehicle than reading your post
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Re: Do moves effect minds
« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2020, 11:14:51 AM »
Youíre up cheetah

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Re: Do moves effect minds
« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2020, 11:16:13 AM »
Thank you for all the feedback

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« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2020, 11:19:29 AM »
I mean depends how well you train yourself/mind. Personally when I was playing music quite heavily and having to do sight reading, especially fast music, they teach u to read many measures ahead of where u are before u get there. In skating i do this with my lines on the fly, like I already mentally prepare where Iím going from the landing of the last trick. Like for instance say I fudge a landing of an impossible in the sense of like I land with my front foot on the nose and then my back foot halfway up the board, which is quite common for an impossible as Iím sure some of you all know. Well if I land that way and I was planning on something different earlier but donít have to time to position my feet then Iím gonna have to improvise with what Iím going to do next, which if u get stuck in ruts like these often is pretty easy to do since u have familiarized yourself with the flawed landings. I mean this is a very simplistic example, but u can extrapolate many more advanced things from that thought.

When I learn tricks, see I have a photographic memory for visual data, so when Iím learning a trick I visualize who my favorite to ever do the trick that has a body style similar to mine on an obstacle similar to mind. I think of that trick in my head like a 3 dimensional model in say some computer animation software that Pixar or someone uses. Trying to recreate that exact model on the obstacle that Iím skating. The photographic memory thing also comes in hand when friends need help with what skater did what on where.


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Re: Do moves effect minds
« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2020, 11:21:17 AM »
Fast answers today boys all Iím trying to figure out is whether itís all in my head or if thereís some feedback from the skateboard itself, is it silly to think of the board as having this kind of narrative on the boarder. Are we one with the wooden toy? Or what kind of ratio can we find

Some people let the board control them, some control the board. Case in point is Rodrigo TX versus Max Palmer. Rodrigo controls the board with extreme precision, Max Palmer lets the board control him with extreme imprecision.
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Re: Do moves effect minds
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Re: Do moves effect minds
« Reply #11 on: February 11, 2020, 12:02:20 PM »
So all in all I identify three parts the mind of the skater, the toy itself, and the maneuver which is essentially a combination of the first two this world may never know the real relationship between them and isnít it all mind after all

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Re: Do moves effect minds
« Reply #12 on: February 11, 2020, 12:03:03 PM »
cheetah indeed killed it and posts in that style are my favorites of his. What people call being nerdy, we call it having a skate IQ around here, what's the world going to do.

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« Reply #14 on: February 11, 2020, 12:09:29 PM »
cheetah indeed killed it and posts in that style are my favorites of his. What people call being nerdy, we call it having a skate IQ around here, what's the world going to do.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkb1McW9w-c

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Glen Fox is fuckin insane. It always looks like he is improvising his lines. Nothing planned, everything first try kind of shit.

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« Reply #15 on: February 11, 2020, 12:12:21 PM »
^ That's what he naturally does, filming him used to be the most fun of nightmares because every line he'd do, he'd just do it, you couldn't fuck it up and if you managed to convince him to try again he'd still do something completely different, or not even take the same path at all. He's actually toned that aspect down a bit after that clip came out because people didn't 'get it' (the real-life insanity doesn't really translate over to the video part format) and he never mentioned it but I guess some reactions got to him, there was a pretty sudden shift in his skating towards something slightly more normalized for a bit which I actually always regretted, he's a pure at heart type of guy, too good for this world.
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Re: Do moves effect minds
« Reply #16 on: February 11, 2020, 12:15:11 PM »
In all seriousness, I think I'm really damn dumb when it comes to skate IQ.

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Re: Do moves effect minds
« Reply #17 on: February 11, 2020, 12:16:25 PM »
For how rad skateboarding is, at its essence itís dumb as dogshit. Like juggling or tight rope walking. Fucken love it though aye.

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Re: Do moves effect minds
« Reply #18 on: February 11, 2020, 12:21:07 PM »
^ That's what he naturally does, filming him used to be the most fun of nightmares because every line he'd do, he'd just do it, you couldn't fuck it up and if you managed to convince him to try again he'd still do something completely different, or not even take the same path at all. He's actually toned that aspect down a bit after that clip came out because people didn't 'get it' (the real-life insanity doesn't really translate over to the video part format) and he never mentioned it but I guess some reactions got to him, there was a pretty sudden shift in his skating towards something slightly more normalized for a bit which I actually always regretted, he's a pure at heart type of guy, too good for this world.


Thanks for the clarification silhouette, by the way your no comply wallie in balade was sick.

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Re: Do moves effect minds
« Reply #19 on: February 11, 2020, 12:21:52 PM »
damn i gotta low skate iQ

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Re: Do moves effect minds
« Reply #20 on: February 11, 2020, 12:23:39 PM »
cheetah indeed killed it and posts in that style are my favorites of his. What people call being nerdy, we call it having a skate IQ around here, what's the world going to do.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkb1McW9w-c

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We are collectively raising the skate IQís of slap one post at a time.

Yíall know that this mans question is the reason I have a short board, like I have a street board thatís exactly 7.6, where as my normal is 8.25. I skate the short board because I find that if you only skate a big board that you end up letting the board do the work, instead of forcing the board to do the work. Same thing with having more concave because concavity is essentially resonance, for a more but not completely detailed look at this go listen to the PS 9 club. The more spring essentially to your board the more the board essentially pushes back on you.

If you donít think this works, I actually learned this trick from a friend of Natas and Gonz who both used to practice on freestyle boards in the 80s because they felt without that level of control they were never going to be able to control those massive shaped boards. Facts people.

Also why the fuck is OPs picture the model of a classical Tensor in Cartesian coordinates. Rodney you getting high and posting on here bro?
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« Reply #21 on: February 11, 2020, 12:30:14 PM »
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cheetah indeed killed it and posts in that style are my favorites of his. What people call being nerdy, we call it having a skate IQ around here, what's the world going to do.

OP:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkb1McW9w-c

Material to fuck up your certitudes.
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We are collectively raising the skate IQís of slap one post at a time.

Yíall know that this mans question is the reason I have a short board, like I have a street board thatís exactly 7.6, where as my normal is 8.25. I skate the short board because I find that if you only skate a big board that you end up letting the board do the work, instead of forcing the board to do the work. Same thing with having more concave because concavity is essentially resonance, for a more but not completely detailed look at this go listen to the PS 9 club. The more spring essentially to your board the more the board essentially pushes back on you.

If you donít think this works, I actually learned this trick from a friend of Natas and Gonz who both used to practice on freestyle boards in the 80s because they felt without that level of control they were never going to be able to control those massive shaped boards. Facts people.

Also why the fuck is OPs picture the model of a classical Tensor in Cartesian coordinates. Rodney you getting high and posting on here bro?

Big brain.


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Re: Do moves effect minds
« Reply #22 on: February 11, 2020, 12:32:17 PM »
I do the tricks, not you

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Re: Do moves effect minds
« Reply #23 on: February 11, 2020, 12:39:46 PM »
In all seriousness, I think I'm really damn dumb when it comes to skate IQ.

damn i gotta low skate iQ

Yíall arenít dumb when it comes to skate IQ. Yíall just never spent the time to study skateboarding. Most people donít quite frankly, which is fine and great tbh. If all you want to do is have fun and find enjoyment of skating then go for it! I donít discourage people from not giving a shit. I just found that over time to become a great skateboarder and to find more enjoyment out of it, then I was going to need to actively study it. I was also lucky in that the cheetah and other big cats taught me a lot. Fact of the matter is most modern skaters donít care to think that deeply, and thatís no fault on them. Also when you donít have people like me or the cheetah or Rodney or whoever teaching the masses these things how do you expect people to get higher skate IQs collectively. Skateboarding is like if all the Einsteinís in the world at it, never decided to educate the masses in their writing. Like seriously have you all ever fucking watched 99% of trick tip videos? Itís like a trey flip is like a kickflip and a 369 shuvit, so put your front foot in kickflip position, and your backfoot in 360 shuvit position, and then go for it! Seriously collectively skate IQ is low as fuck because we donít have centers for this mass education. I try my best to inform you all but itís difficult when u deride me all the time and Iím just like should I let them in on the knowledge. They will prolly just make jokes, which is ok, itís slap, but I know I would have many disciples on here.


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Re: Do moves effect minds
« Reply #24 on: February 11, 2020, 02:35:52 PM »
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cheetah indeed killed it and posts in that style are my favorites of his. What people call being nerdy, we call it having a skate IQ around here, what's the world going to do.

OP:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkb1McW9w-c

Material to fuck up your certitudes.
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We are collectively raising the skate IQís of slap one post at a time.

Yíall know that this mans question is the reason I have a short board, like I have a street board thatís exactly 7.6, where as my normal is 8.25. I skate the short board because I find that if you only skate a big board that you end up letting the board do the work, instead of forcing the board to do the work. Same thing with having more concave because concavity is essentially resonance, for a more but not completely detailed look at this go listen to the PS 9 club. The more spring essentially to your board the more the board essentially pushes back on you.

If you donít think this works, I actually learned this trick from a friend of Natas and Gonz who both used to practice on freestyle boards in the 80s because they felt without that level of control they were never going to be able to control those massive shaped boards. Facts people.

Also why the fuck is OPs picture the model of a classical Tensor in Cartesian coordinates. Rodney you getting high and posting on here bro?
wow cheetah I'm not sure if this makes me feel more or less strange and stupid about these two I never thought I'd use these 139 hangers again until I Frankensteind" them to 49 (USA)baseplates I had and this old Corkys 7.5 ďMADE IN USĒ laying around for an otherworldly reason.. It's all pretty clear think I'll try and skate this
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Re: Do moves effect minds
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cheetah indeed killed it and posts in that style are my favorites of his. What people call being nerdy, we call it having a skate IQ around here, what's the world going to do.

OP:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkb1McW9w-c

Material to fuck up your certitudes.
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We are collectively raising the skate IQís of slap one post at a time.

Yíall know that this mans question is the reason I have a short board, like I have a street board thatís exactly 7.6, where as my normal is 8.25. I skate the short board because I find that if you only skate a big board that you end up letting the board do the work, instead of forcing the board to do the work. Same thing with having more concave because concavity is essentially resonance, for a more but not completely detailed look at this go listen to the PS 9 club. The more spring essentially to your board the more the board essentially pushes back on you.

If you donít think this works, I actually learned this trick from a friend of Natas and Gonz who both used to practice on freestyle boards in the 80s because they felt without that level of control they were never going to be able to control those massive shaped boards. Facts people.

Also why the fuck is OPs picture the model of a classical Tensor in Cartesian coordinates. Rodney you getting high and posting on here bro?
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wow cheetah I'm not sure if this makes me feel more or less strange and stupid about these two I never thought I'd use these 139 hangers again until I Frankensteind" them to 49 baseplates I had and this old 7.5 laying around for an otherworldly reason.. It's all pretty clear think I'll try and skate this

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Re: Do moves effect minds
« Reply #26 on: February 11, 2020, 03:26:03 PM »
Or is it the other way around? like when I indy grab I'm pretty confidence that its me having an affect on the move I'm trying to pull. But its just a thought that the move you're doing might have more of an impact on the mind of the skateboarder whilst realizing the trick. Mind you this isn't simply chicken or egg which comes first, and the answer cant be as simple as mind over matter can it? <3  :-\ shalom

If youíre doing a trick, youíve almost certainly seen it done before by someone else.  So really itís whoever you saw reaching through time and space to tickle your Brain juice in such a way to make the rest of your body juice make that trick.

But you donít have a perfect image of the trick when you saw it.  Youíve got some made-up approximation of what you saw.  Just some foggy hint of a shape.  A mood...sizzling on the veranda.  That look back on the school bus from your 4th grade crush.  That pear you thought was bruised but would have actually been the best one you ever ate if only youíd given it the chance.




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Re: Do moves effect minds
« Reply #27 on: February 11, 2020, 03:32:50 PM »
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Or is it the other way around? like when I indy grab I'm pretty confidence that its me having an affect on the move I'm trying to pull. But its just a thought that the move you're doing might have more of an impact on the mind of the skateboarder whilst realizing the trick. Mind you this isn't simply chicken or egg which comes first, and the answer cant be as simple as mind over matter can it? <3  :-\ shalom
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If youíre doing a trick, youíve almost certainly seen it done before by someone else.  So really itís whoever you saw reaching through time and space to tickle your Brain juice in such a way to make the rest of your body juice make that trick.

But you donít have a perfect image of the trick when you saw it.  Youíve got some made-up approximation of what you saw.  Just some foggy hint of a shape.  A mood...sizzling on the veranda. That look back on the school bus from your 4th grade crush.  That pear you thought was bruised but would have actually been the best one you ever ate if only youíd given it the chance.

I'd attend that barbecue.

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Re: Do moves effect minds
« Reply #28 on: February 11, 2020, 05:30:13 PM »
I've had a better understanding of what is happening around me while smoking Salvia as a passenger in a moving vehicle than reading your post

I miss salvia being legal. That shit was something else.

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« Reply #29 on: February 11, 2020, 05:36:11 PM »
I've had a better understanding of what is happening around me while smoking Salvia as a passenger in a moving vehicle than reading your post
I felt this on a spiritual level