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Cupsole boardfeel is never as good as I want, vulc for me until i find the elusive thin cup
Vans ave
Mad expensive and due to design they fall apart in all the places shoes did 20 years ago. I guess it’s a trade off cause you get around a month of the best shoe ever
when i tried these on, they felt like vulcs basically. i passed cuz i wanted a thicker sole.
aves aren't that comfy->my unpopular opinion.
i think the tiagos have great boardfeel and are way less clunky than they look in pictures, so they could work. but probably even better might be the nb 440 that so many people on here swear by.