new Vans models

[Atiba Applebum]

Expand Quote

.

Today I got out and went to a few other shops and got to see the new Era and Old Skool you guys had posted above, but didn't have time to try them on or anything else.

They sure are quite stiff in the body, compared to the basic vulc options, which one would expect, so I think they would hold up better, but might also take a little more time to break in or get used to.

I would definitely have to change out the insole to something that would work better for me, but it is easy enough too, so I wonder if some of those people who would run thinner or softer insoles would agree with those shoes, or they might not be so painful underfoot.

Maybe the only thing I thought was funny was the change of materials on the side, but I guess I am pretty simple in that regard - just suede when or where I can or canvas if they must, but that other mixed material is a bit funny to me - is it rubber composite or something else?

Lastly, I could definitely see the sole colours you guys are talking about, when the shoe was on the rack in front of me, but when I am looking down on it as if I was wearing it, I don't really see anything besides the black toe and white trim round the front, so it might not be quite as funny as when we see the side on pics here too.


* Yeah that last line, from someone who sprays his sale shoes black on top and keeps the plain white trim nice and clean...  Who am I kidding?

[close]

First thing I do when I buy any vans skate shoe is replace the popcush, it makes your heel sit way too high and unstable with it being so cushy. Not to mention you get a way worse heel lock.

What do you replace the popcush sole with

[Mbrimson88]

First thing I do when I buy any vans skate shoe is replace the popcush, it makes your heel sit way too high and unstable with it being so cushy. Not to mention you get a way worse heel lock.

For sure.

At least one person I know had a good tip with their shoes - put in your old comfy worn in insoles so that the new shoes don't feel quite as weird, then when the shoes are well on their way, put the new insoles back in and the shoes feel half new again, but at least the heel imprint is already there, so the new insoles are not quite as uncomfortable and the shoes usually fit better.


I don't use the stock insoles, at least not the current ones that are so contoured, but it does work, when I tried it with some other versions I had here.

[MikeX]

Expand Quote

Expand Quote

.

Today I got out and went to a few other shops and got to see the new Era and Old Skool you guys had posted above, but didn't have time to try them on or anything else.

They sure are quite stiff in the body, compared to the basic vulc options, which one would expect, so I think they would hold up better, but might also take a little more time to break in or get used to.

I would definitely have to change out the insole to something that would work better for me, but it is easy enough too, so I wonder if some of those people who would run thinner or softer insoles would agree with those shoes, or they might not be so painful underfoot.

Maybe the only thing I thought was funny was the change of materials on the side, but I guess I am pretty simple in that regard - just suede when or where I can or canvas if they must, but that other mixed material is a bit funny to me - is it rubber composite or something else?

Lastly, I could definitely see the sole colours you guys are talking about, when the shoe was on the rack in front of me, but when I am looking down on it as if I was wearing it, I don't really see anything besides the black toe and white trim round the front, so it might not be quite as funny as when we see the side on pics here too.


* Yeah that last line, from someone who sprays his sale shoes black on top and keeps the plain white trim nice and clean...  Who am I kidding?

[close]

First thing I do when I buy any vans skate shoe is replace the popcush, it makes your heel sit way too high and unstable with it being so cushy. Not to mention you get a way worse heel lock.

[close]

What do you replace the popcush sole with

Usually something thats thinner like some fp gamechangers, that way my foot sits deeper in the shoe and feels more secure/supported.

[Atiba Applebum]

Expand Quote

Expand Quote

Expand Quote

.

Today I got out and went to a few other shops and got to see the new Era and Old Skool you guys had posted above, but didn't have time to try them on or anything else.

They sure are quite stiff in the body, compared to the basic vulc options, which one would expect, so I think they would hold up better, but might also take a little more time to break in or get used to.

I would definitely have to change out the insole to something that would work better for me, but it is easy enough too, so I wonder if some of those people who would run thinner or softer insoles would agree with those shoes, or they might not be so painful underfoot.

Maybe the only thing I thought was funny was the change of materials on the side, but I guess I am pretty simple in that regard - just suede when or where I can or canvas if they must, but that other mixed material is a bit funny to me - is it rubber composite or something else?

Lastly, I could definitely see the sole colours you guys are talking about, when the shoe was on the rack in front of me, but when I am looking down on it as if I was wearing it, I don't really see anything besides the black toe and white trim round the front, so it might not be quite as funny as when we see the side on pics here too.


* Yeah that last line, from someone who sprays his sale shoes black on top and keeps the plain white trim nice and clean...  Who am I kidding?

[close]

First thing I do when I buy any vans skate shoe is replace the popcush, it makes your heel sit way too high and unstable with it being so cushy. Not to mention you get a way worse heel lock.

[close]

What do you replace the popcush sole with

[close]

Usually something thats thinner like some fp gamechangers, that way my foot sits deeper in the shoe and feels more secure/supported.

Appreciate it.  I have the same issue, but sick of swapping out cons insoles as they are fine but not my favorite fit

[Stoop Kid 2.0]

Anyone know when the Ave classic Hockeys drop?

[DeanMaple]

Just got the scotty cranmer bmx sk8 hi, with the old waffle cup.
Its really comfy snd looks way better than the new skt ones.

[Sedition]

Today someone GAVE me an virtually brand new pair of waffle cup Half-Cabs. I thought, why not? I immediately removed all the tags with his name on it (fuck Cab). But the tongue. Holy hell, the tongue. It's so absurdly puffy and stupid. I want to try cutting the seam open and removing some of the padding, so it's normal sized...but figured before I did this, I'd ask if anyone else has done this / has a good technique.

[franc]

Expand Quote

Alright a quick Photoshop job makes them seem a million times better if you spray paint the brown and green parts of the sole and get rid of that heel loop.

[close]

I pulled the trigger and kept those Old Skool Wafflecups I just got as they feel comfy and I want to know how I can skate in them. I love Old Skools but they're not protective enough for my old feet, we'll see how these feel.

I tried to spray paint the sole but the texture on the stupid brown and green parts made that hard so I colored it with an edding 8050 tyre marker and the result is pretty decent in my book. I got rid of the heel loop too, of course. I'm going to wear those to work for a minute, I'll start skating in them when my Skate Half Cabs will be done.

Alright, I wore those to work for like a month and started skating in them last week.

The paint job I did didn't last at all, you're gonna have to get used to that stupid sole if you get them.
This said, they are pretty comfy and break in very quickly. The board feel is good. I quite like them, my only complaint is that the toe box is kinda wide compared to Skate Half Cabs and Currens but that's just me and it's not really an issue to be honest.

I'll see how they feel after a month or two of skating but I could see myself getting more of those.

[Plan9Customs]

Today someone GAVE me an virtually brand new pair of waffle cup Half-Cabs. I thought, why not? I immediately removed all the tags with his name on it (fuck Cab). But the tongue. Holy hell, the tongue. It's so absurdly puffy and stupid. I want to try cutting the seam open and removing some of the padding, so it's normal sized...but figured before I did this, I'd ask if anyone else has done this / has a good technique.

I’m probably wrong, but, I seem to recall @Mbrimson88 posting something about slimming down the tongue.

[Mbrimson88]

Expand Quote

Today someone GAVE me an virtually brand new pair of waffle cup Half-Cabs. I thought, why not? I immediately removed all the tags with his name on it (fuck Cab). But the tongue. Holy hell, the tongue. It's so absurdly puffy and stupid. I want to try cutting the seam open and removing some of the padding, so it's normal sized...but figured before I did this, I'd ask if anyone else has done this / has a good technique.

[close]

I’m probably wrong, but, I seem to recall @Mbrimson88 posting something about slimming down the tongue.

Yeah I looked up some info when someone else asked the same question in maybe the "Questions" thread for other shoes, which came out with two options, either slice down the back and try to extract the foam piece and replace with a thinner one, or unpick the side or sides and see if it can come out, or even the top.  Sewing back together was optional.

From pulling out / cutting out a lot of old Half Cab tongues to re use in any shoes that have no padding (Old Skool, Sk8 low and others), the old ones are sewn in pretty well, but it is still just a piece of foam which can be removed easily enough.

The thickness does flatten down quite a lot too once you have them on your feet for a few sessions / days, or at least it does for me in any versions I have had in the past, regular, pro, Skate, etc.  I haven't seen the new waffle cup versions though.

[bombsaway86]

I like the puffy tongue on the wafflecup Half Cabs. It keeps my foot from moving around and I don’t have to tie my shoes as tight as I do with other shoes

[danmasontree]

Does anyone know how the currens compare to the crocketts? Feel, fit, etc. Thanks!

[Crabby_Bastard]

Does anyone know how the currens compare to the crocketts? Feel, fit, etc. Thanks!

They feel different, one being wafflecup and the other vulc. The Crockett low and high are both more supportive and have a more locked in feel (on my feet). The Curren's are super floppy after a couple sessions and I had to crank them down to stay on my feet whilst my toes were getting smushed from the narrowness of the toe of the shoe. The Curren's are grippier.

[Sedition]

Expand Quote

Expand Quote

Today someone GAVE me an virtually brand new pair of waffle cup Half-Cabs. I thought, why not? I immediately removed all the tags with his name on it (fuck Cab). But the tongue. Holy hell, the tongue. It's so absurdly puffy and stupid. I want to try cutting the seam open and removing some of the padding, so it's normal sized...but figured before I did this, I'd ask if anyone else has done this / has a good technique.

[close]

I’m probably wrong, but, I seem to recall @Mbrimson88 posting something about slimming down the tongue.

[close]

Yeah I looked up some info when someone else asked the same question in maybe the "Questions" thread for other shoes, which came out with two options, either slice down the back and try to extract the foam piece and replace with a thinner one, or unpick the side or sides and see if it can come out, or even the top.  Sewing back together was optional.

From pulling out / cutting out a lot of old Half Cab tongues to re use in any shoes that have no padding (Old Skool, Sk8 low and others), the old ones are sewn in pretty well, but it is still just a piece of foam which can be removed easily enough.

The thickness does flatten down quite a lot too once you have them on your feet for a few sessions / days, or at least it does for me in any versions I have had in the past, regular, pro, Skate, etc.  I haven't seen the new waffle cup versions though.

Danke!

[JugeL]

What is the actual difference between wafflecup and regular Skate line since there is no midsole?

[DarkPools]

What is the actual difference between wafflecup and regular Skate line since there is no midsole?

The outsole is the main difference. Wafflecup uses a hybrid version of a cupsole/tread blended with their classic vulc sole/tread.  Supposed to be a more supportive, yet still flexible  nexus of cup & vulc.


More thorough explanation:

Skate Classic vulcs: standard Vans rubber compound sole - optimized for skateboarding (stickier rubber, deeper tread, etc) and a thick rubber vulc wrap. Internal shank is present in the rear/midfoot section of all the Skate Classics models i believe for improved stability

Skate Wafflecup: a hybrid of Skate Classic vulc in the toe/forefoot with a cupsole-like rear/heel section. No internal shank present. There may be some midsole in the rear portion, but I'm not positive without exhausting additional research. The texture on the vulc (toe area) is different than the skate classic vulc wrap we're used to, as well.

To me, the wafflecups are the worst qualities of both Vans sole types that created a mediocre (to me) shoe.  Do they skate great? Yes! Are they more supportive & durable than the vulcs? I don't completely think so, but some will feel they are! I've enjoyed KWalks & Crockett 2 lows in the past, but they wear out & got floppy quite fast :/

[rikki]

"Cupsole-like" alone is a term that confirms I won't be giving a chance to any Vans shoe ever again.

[scab]

I have a different perspective. I like a lot of the classic Vans silhouettes, especially for casual wear. The regular vulcs are way too flimsy for my liking though. The wafflecup versions are much more comfortable to me. I can wear those as everyday shoes and skate them just fine should I find myself on a board. That's good enough for me.

[danmasontree]

Expand Quote

Does anyone know how the currens compare to the crocketts? Feel, fit, etc. Thanks!

[close]

They feel different, one being wafflecup and the other vulc. The Crockett low and high are both more supportive and have a more locked in feel (on my feet). The Curren's are super floppy after a couple sessions and I had to crank them down to stay on my feet whilst my toes were getting smushed from the narrowness of the toe of the shoe. The Curren's are grippier.

Thanks!

[DeanMaple]

Just got some Rowans 2, second hand.
Love them.

[rawbertson.]

is the Zahba done now?  I guess they have been out for a few years now but i just got a pair and i really like them

[franc]

I miss Crockett Lows and Skate SK8-Lows.

[turdtastic]

I miss Crockett Lows and Skate SK8-Lows.

I’ve got some sz 11 BLK/WHT Sk8-lo PROs NIB if interested

[JugeL]

is the Zahba done now?  I guess they have been out for a few years now but i just got a pair and i really like them

One of the best shoes ive skated

[AnimalChinaski79]

I just want them to release an original Chukka boot again.  No wafflecup sole or checkerboard tag, just a straight up original Chukka.  Until then Vans can fuck off.

[Plungerman]

https://youtu.be/JCUmy9MLSeU?si=ASr6hCnwqwruWUUT

surprised there's no extra padding under the foot w the wafflecup

[Snackbar]

https://youtu.be/JCUmy9MLSeU?si=ASr6hCnwqwruWUUT

surprised there's no extra padding under the foot w the wafflecup

I have all 3 colorways of the wafflecup Era ( I have issues) and its the best Vans model for my feet in decades. Weirdly, the blue/light blue and brown/black are very different from the all black that they tested. It feels like the pop cush is way softer and both sides of the non black ones are all mesh and super comfy. Its very odd that they're different, but I'm not complaining.

[DeanMaple]

It blew my mind when i saw they look the same cut in half.
Vans blew it hard. Comfort aint everything.

[JugeL]

Death, taxes and Vans blowin it

[concerned_parent]

so like umm no more crockett high?