2021 unpopular opinion thread

[pinkbananastatus]

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A lot of female pros are overrated.

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just gotta think of it like the WNBA and NBA

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I am not taking sides in this argument but I am really curious on WHY there tends to be a difference between men and women pro skating, in terms of style and what the tricks look like.
My (not-extremely-researched) hypothesis would be that women tend to start skating at a later age and are likely sponsored quicker which would lead them to generally have less developed style when they reach the point of being sponsored. This would differ to lots of male pro skaters who started skating at an earlier age and had a much higher threshold before sponsorship was an option because of the amount of males skating. Something that leads me to think this may be the reasoning behind this is Alexis Sablone's style which could be categorized as much more "masculine". She started skating seriously before the age of 12, and is now 34 which puts her with at least 22 years of experience. This could be an explanation, or it could simply be that she is a talented, unique skater and my argument could be completely offbase which I am happy to except.

This is an interesting take regarding how women are socialized into skating. I’ve always thought it’s more to do with the differences in body type. Men have smaller hips that probably make it easier to balance within the 14 inches between the wheels. Women have wider hips that can make it harder to balance, and also might contribute to how their legs kick out to flick.

Idk, I’m a man, but that’s always been my assumption behind it.

[Croquet temper]

When I watched the recent Cons video where Alexis slams on kickflipping a gap, I thought “she is one of us.” She also has the best flick.

[L33Tg33k]

I've always found that a good heuristic for whose skateboarding deserves sponsorship is if you saw them skating in real life would they catch your attention? Would you stop and watch? Do they make you stoked? To bring in the aspect of sponsored female skateboarders I'd say most of them do interesting skateboarding that I would love to watch in real life. If I saw a girl doing anything sufficiently stylish or advanced to the point that they're special, I would be watching. If you can't see that Breana, a girl that kick flip manual impossible out with authority, is special, then you're lost.

[elbarto]

Mike Davis (R.I.P.) was way hotter than Austyn Gillette could ever be.

Lmao solid opinion Mike was the fucking best dude. Jawline could cut diamonds lol

[veritas]

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A lot of female pros are overrated.

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Just when you thought the takes couldn't get any hotter! Anyway, I'm sorry your mom went for a pack of smokes and never came back, or dresses like Tom Penny, or both, or whatever the real issue is here for you.

Moms who dress like Tom Penny is a topic worthy of its own thread

[DarthDingusMaximus]

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A lot of female pros are overrated.

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Are there that many?   Vast majority are am or flow.  Lizzie, Norah, Samarria all deserve it.  Even Il Bufoni

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Alexis Sablone and Elissa Steamer are dope, too.

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Sablone and Steamer are the best by a country mile.

Steamer is / was the best but Sablone coming in hard.

I will say some female pros/ams aren't up to much. I really don't get Breanna.

I know Bufoni is good technically but she is dirt to me the same way Nyjah or any bro skater is.

I know for myself I enjoy watching ladies skating
boobs and asses are pleasing as opposed to dude's that's just me though,  I mean let's face it skating is kinda homoerotic in a figurative sense we obsess over who's got this like school girl's who has got a crush.

For me I think gal's are just as talented with skill maybe not as fluid but equally on our level. Just like anything else in skating and marketable just have the right niche. Look at Marissa del Santo she's just as good as Elissa and Alexis.

[Brguy]

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slap circlejerks ventures so hard it makes me not want to try them.

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Slap circlejerks a lot of things and has this same effect on me.

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-claiming they prefer relatable footage as opposed to mind blowing shit.

The problem is that no one realizes that super flowing line with simple-ish tricks is not relatable at all when you take into account speed and style.

[QixHexagon]

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A lot of female pros are overrated.

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just gotta think of it like the WNBA and NBA

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I am not taking sides in this argument but I am really curious on WHY there tends to be a difference between men and women pro skating, in terms of style and what the tricks look like.
My (not-extremely-researched) hypothesis would be that women tend to start skating at a later age and are likely sponsored quicker which would lead them to generally have less developed style when they reach the point of being sponsored. This would differ to lots of male pro skaters who started skating at an earlier age and had a much higher threshold before sponsorship was an option because of the amount of males skating. Something that leads me to think this may be the reasoning behind this is Alexis Sablone's style which could be categorized as much more "masculine". She started skating seriously before the age of 12, and is now 34 which puts her with at least 22 years of experience. This could be an explanation, or it could simply be that she is a talented, unique skater and my argument could be completely offbase which I am happy to except.

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This is an interesting take regarding how women are socialized into skating. I’ve always thought it’s more to do with the differences in body type. Men have smaller hips that probably make it easier to balance within the 14 inches between the wheels. Women have wider hips that can make it harder to balance, and also might contribute to how their legs kick out to flick.

Idk, I’m a man, but that’s always been my assumption behind it.

RadRat made a video with some interesting points on this:

[Mcidraque]

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slap circlejerks ventures so hard it makes me not want to try them.

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Slap circlejerks a lot of things and has this same effect on me.

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-claiming they prefer relatable footage as opposed to mind blowing shit.

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The problem is that no one realizes that super flowing line with simple-ish tricks is not relatable at all when you take into account speed and style.

[Dwyck]

that literally doesn't make any sense unless you film yourself everytime you go skating. you never think about someone's style when you're doing something, like as inspiration? Like Julien Stranger doing a casual back 5050 on a ledge - i can't reproduce his strength and deftness whatsoever but I think about it when i do mine. That's way easier to relate to than send it saturdays or anything like that

[Painted Baby]

Moms Penny

[baaaaaaguette]

Dudes taking up the whole local spot to rollerblade are total kooks. Maybe its fun for you to do wide circles and nothing else but youre blocking an entire spot for a dozen people and then some. Basically fuck rollerblading, except skatepark rollerbladers, those guys are tight as fuck

[Lou Strux]

Dudes taking up the whole local spot to rollerblade are total kooks. Maybe its fun for you to do wide circles and nothing else but youre blocking an entire spot for a dozen people and then some. Basically fuck rollerblading, except skatepark rollerbladers, those guys are tight as fuck

Nah. They still ain’t tight, even at the park.

[baaaaaaguette]

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Dudes taking up the whole local spot to rollerblade are total kooks. Maybe its fun for you to do wide circles and nothing else but youre blocking an entire spot for a dozen people and then some. Basically fuck rollerblading, except skatepark rollerbladers, those guys are tight as fuck

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Nah. They still ain’t tight, even at the park.

man last i went some guy was launching himself several feet in the air off a bowl it was insane.

[cky enthusiast]

i’ve said this before in here i think but rollerbladers take the most insane crash test dummy slams

[Brguy]

It sucks when they wax shit though.

[quesly]

It sucks when they wax shit though.

obligatory

[Coffee]

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Dudes taking up the whole local spot to rollerblade are total kooks. Maybe its fun for you to do wide circles and nothing else but youre blocking an entire spot for a dozen people and then some. Basically fuck rollerblading, except skatepark rollerbladers, those guys are tight as fuck

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Nah. They still ain’t tight, even at the park.

When I started skating in the mid 90's as a middle school kid in bumfuck Midwest two of my friends who I had been friends with for years started rollerblading.  Since our town was really small we naturally only had a couple spots and since we were friends with those two kids before any of us starting skating and them rollerblading we would roll together.  Outside of those two kids every rollerblader I've ever met was an insufferable douche.  Most of them used too much wax, snaked everyone at every spot, dressed like extras in a 311 music video, and always tried to bum smokes.  Fuck those kooks.  I seriously haven't seen anyone on rollerblades in probably 12 years.  Are they still a thing?  Do they still have pros and whatever?

[aàáâäæãå]

I saw two at a nearby park filming when I got there around 10 am. They were the only ones there and one of them cool guyed me when I said “hello”. He did give me a nod when they left though.
 
Respect.

[rawbacon]

youtube algorithm hooked me up with a rollerblading video part from this dude that looked like a bootleg kerry king, i wish i remembered the name anything about it so i could link it. maybe someone here saw it?

[Atiba Applebum]

I went to grad school with a guy who was a gnarly rollerblader back in the day.  Checked out his parts on YouTube.  Fakie backflip down Carlsbad gap was definitely pretty heavy

[rawbacon]

I went to grad school with a guy who was a gnarly rollerblader back in the day.  Checked out his parts on YouTube.  Fakie backflip down Carlsbad gap was definitely pretty heavy

wheres the link? but more importantly, what was your major? also, how many stairs can you ollie?

[Atiba Applebum]

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I went to grad school with a guy who was a gnarly rollerblader back in the day.  Checked out his parts on YouTube.  Fakie backflip down Carlsbad gap was definitely pretty heavy

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wheres the link? but more importantly, what was your major? also, how many stairs can you ollie?

http://m.facebook.com/backto.the.LAB/videos/fakie-back-the-gapreposted-from-connorobrien310-fakie-backflipping-the-infamous-/665286367627021/?__so__=permalink&__rv__=related_videos

[Mr. Stinky]

Fat Bill's filming might not be for everyone, but he does it well and knows how to edit what he shoots so it holds together nicely.  The biggest problem with that style of filming is the imitators who don't have a concept of how to make that type of footage work in an edit.   

[fredgallSOTY]

Fat Bill's filming might not be for everyone, but he does it well and knows how to edit what he shoots so it holds together nicely.  The biggest problem with that style of filming is the imitators who don't have a concept of how to make that type of footage work in an edit.

you get it

[Dwyck]

I have mixed feelings about bill's stuff itself, but I think cropping heads and what not is a straightforward way to make 16:9 footage look interesting, fast, detailed and so on. There's an intimidating amount of empty space between the spot and the skater if theyre fully framed the whole clip. I think there's a generation of kids myself included recoiling from HD Greg Hunt/Meza/Ty etc - gifted and accomplished members of the old-guard who sorta stumbled into HD (well Ty fell off into action sports). The industry really bricked the HD transistion and there's a lot of 2009-2015 footage that's uninteresting and slow. The zoom stuff offers a clear way out for someone who's over that, even if it can hurt their footage in the long run. Paired with the new widening of what makes a trick filmable, it's like - You and your friend who has a bigger bag of tricks than aiden mackey can go film a clip just like Bill and it's as if you're in the same canon.

There are other ways to do it, though, and it's refreshing to watch an HD clip that isn't entirely claustrophobic. But I don't think the head chop zoom is the end of days

[Serious Bob]

I like ishod but the way he skates seems pretty vain at times; like he's trying pretty hard to look relaxed

[Frank]

I have mixed feelings about bill's stuff itself, but I think cropping heads and what not is a straightforward way to make 16:9 footage look interesting, fast, detailed and so on. There's an intimidating amount of empty space between the spot and the skater if theyre fully framed the whole clip. I think there's a generation of kids myself included recoiling from HD Greg Hunt/Meza/Ty etc - gifted and accomplished members of the old-guard who sorta stumbled into HD (well Ty fell off into action sports). The industry really bricked the HD transistion and there's a lot of 2009-2015 footage that's uninteresting and slow. The zoom stuff offers a clear way out for someone who's over that, even if it can hurt their footage in the long run. Paired with the new widening of what makes a trick filmable, it's like - You and your friend who has a bigger bag of tricks than aiden mackey can go film a clip just like Bill and it's as if you're in the same canon.

There are other ways to do it, though, and it's refreshing to watch an HD clip that isn't entirely claustrophobic. But I don't think the head chop zoom is the end of days

that was a great way to put it. i think sometimes strobecks newer (last ten years or so) style works incredibly well in terms of urban atmosphere, or just general tension, when it goes wrong it looks like he's a total dilettant, but there's clearly thought put behind it. he brought a new kind of filming aesthetic to the table which can be replicated or developed by anyone basically, which is cool in itself, no matter what you think of his output nowadays.

[OldSkater]

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I went to grad school with a guy who was a gnarly rollerblader back in the day.  Checked out his parts on YouTube.  Fakie backflip down Carlsbad gap was definitely pretty heavy

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wheres the link? but more importantly, what was your major? also, how many stairs can you ollie?

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http://m.facebook.com/backto.the.LAB/videos/fakie-back-the-gapreposted-from-connorobrien310-fakie-backflipping-the-infamous-/665286367627021/?__so__=permalink&__rv__=related_videos

this had the exact music i expected

[WobbleHeadBob]

I have mixed feelings about bill's stuff itself, but I think cropping heads and what not is a straightforward way to make 16:9 footage look interesting, fast, detailed and so on. There's an intimidating amount of empty space between the spot and the skater if theyre fully framed the whole clip. I think there's a generation of kids myself included recoiling from HD Greg Hunt/Meza/Ty etc - gifted and accomplished members of the old-guard who sorta stumbled into HD (well Ty fell off into action sports). The industry really bricked the HD transistion and there's a lot of 2009-2015 footage that's uninteresting and slow. The zoom stuff offers a clear way out for someone who's over that, even if it can hurt their footage in the long run. Paired with the new widening of what makes a trick filmable, it's like - You and your friend who has a bigger bag of tricks than aiden mackey can go film a clip just like Bill and it's as if you're in the same canon.

There are other ways to do it, though, and it's refreshing to watch an HD clip that isn't entirely claustrophobic. But I don't think the head chop zoom is the end of days

nah. if you cant see the spot or the skater.. or even at times the fucking skateboad, its bad filming.