2021 unpopular opinion thread

[SneakySecrets]

So bummed I never skated the Koston 1’s

[manysnakes]

We have a skate conspiracy thread? I can't find it. Anyway, here's my new one - I've tried it, and the rubber grip tape is as good as the 80 grit stuff we all skate. As an old fart, it would be hard for me to make the adjustment after ~32 years on sandpaper, but if we started out every 10 year old on it, skateboarding would still go as hard and no one would ever know any different. It will never achieve widespread acceptable because conspicuous shoe consumption is now a pillar of the industry.

[Joe Davola]

The Koston 3 is a powerfully ugly shoe.

This is coming from a man who loves the Koston 1 and even has love for the K2.

I don't understand the nostalgia for this abomination.

Where’s the nostalgia? Are they coming back? I want to try a pair sooooo bad.

[Mike Oxwelling]

Old dude.   Loved Pretty Sweet.   Like the intro and Guy's song that everyone hates as well.

[Loki700]

We have a skate conspiracy thread? I can't find it. Anyway, here's my new one - I've tried it, and the rubber grip tape is as good as the 80 grit stuff we all skate. As an old fart, it would be hard for me to make the adjustment after ~32 years on sandpaper, but if we started out every 10 year old on it, skateboarding would still go as hard and no one would ever know any different. It will never achieve widespread acceptable because conspicuous shoe consumption is now a pillar of the industry.

All you have to do is go to Advanced Search, put 100 days as the age of the posts, and search for "conspiracy".  It was the 9th result.

That's awesome to know though.  I've wanted to try some but was figuring it wasn't worth the effort if it sucked.  I'll have to try it on my next setup.

[manysnakes]

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We have a skate conspiracy thread? I can't find it. Anyway, here's my new one - I've tried it, and the rubber grip tape is as good as the 80 grit stuff we all skate. As an old fart, it would be hard for me to make the adjustment after ~32 years on sandpaper, but if we started out every 10 year old on it, skateboarding would still go as hard and no one would ever know any different. It will never achieve widespread acceptable because conspicuous shoe consumption is now a pillar of the industry.

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All you have to do is go to Advanced Search, put 100 days as the age of the posts, and search for "conspiracy".  It was the 9th result.

That's awesome to know though.  I've wanted to try some but was figuring it wasn't worth the effort if it sucked.  I'll have to try it on my next setup.

I knew it was out there, and I am literally an IT professional, but "search functions" are right next to working with printers in the category of "I ain't fucking with this."

[BugleBites]

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I don‘t like MACBA clips.

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Fair.
What about them don't you like? For me it's the crowds. I always prefer no pedestrians in footage. I want clips to look like omega man.

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It's hard to say really. Not necessarily the crowds, it's the entire vibe that turns me off. I feel that I would hate to skate there. And yes, as pointed out by @RottenToTheCore  it's a played out spot.

By the time I finally made it to Barcelona I was definitely sick of Macba footage, but I at least wanted to check it out. After about 30 seconds there I never wanted to go back, and I'm generally a plaza/ledge guy. There's just waaaaaaay too many people there, insanely annoying beer vendors with no short term memory so they keep trying to sell you beer over and over, and a heavy concentration of very kooky skaters from all over the world filming on phones. Not to mention the main ledge is beat to shit at this point. Lots of giant piss puddles, thieves. The only time I liked it was late at night as a sort of outdoor party vibe if you don't plan on skating. My only trip to Barcelona the guys I went with started every day there, lurking for a few hours, and then went back there after going to another spot. Drove me fucking nuts. Also funny watching almost every dude there drool over Cata, who was like, 19 at the time.

If I ever go back, that place is black listed.

[IpathCats]

Ventures are ugly and grind like shit.

Not a bad choice if you want a heavy pop feel and a good baseplate to slide on though.

But they're definitely ugly and grind like shit.

[ziggy]

I liked Blockhead

[elbarto]

I think if you are over the age of 20 with no sponsors/connections but are still actively trying to make it in the skate industry you are pretty much fucked.

[drcroc]

Ventures are ugly and grind like shit.

Not a bad choice if you want a heavy pop feel and a good baseplate to slide on though.

But they're definitely ugly and grind like shit.

I skated Ventures when I was at the peak of my skating abilities and liked them a lot... despite the fact they felt like they might break in half any given second.

The worst trucks I skated recently were these expensive Tensors. They were super light, smooth and precise but I still felt really floppy and not in control.

Definitely think a pair of broken in Krux are a happy medium.

[Rattus Localis]

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The Koston 3 is a powerfully ugly shoe.

This is coming from a man who loves the Koston 1 and even has love for the K2.

I don't understand the nostalgia for this abomination.

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Where’s the nostalgia? Are they coming back? I want to try a pair sooooo bad.

They don't seem to have the same following as, say, a DC Lynx or whatever, but I've met plenty of people who love them.

There's also that terrible Es model, the Evant, which seems to be a knock off of the original.

Koston was my favourite skater as a kid but I can't even watch his footage when he's wearing K3's. It just looks fucked.

[manysnakes]

I think if you are over the age of 20 with no sponsors/connections but are still actively trying to make it in the skate industry you are pretty much fucked.

This is the unpopular opinion thread, not the common sense thread

[Mean salto]

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The Koston 3 is a powerfully ugly shoe.

This is coming from a man who loves the Koston 1 and even has love for the K2.

I don't understand the nostalgia for this abomination.

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Where’s the nostalgia? Are they coming back? I want to try a pair sooooo bad.

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They don't seem to have the same following as, say, a DC Lynx or whatever, but I've met plenty of people who love them.

There's also that terrible Es model, the Evant, which seems to be a knock off of the original.

Koston was my favourite skater as a kid but I can't even watch his footage when he's wearing K3's. It just looks fucked.

K3 always looked like the wearer is standing flat footed and pointing their toes up.
I'll have to go even more unpopular opinion and say the only good Koston shoe was his first Nike one. I don't even like nikes but to me that's what a cupsole skateshoe should look like.
But I also don't like the og DC lynx. I have a pair of the 2014 re release that is slimmed down and they're perfect

[Mean salto]

Some guys had better style before they started wearing Big Boys. Not everybody can pull off baggy pants

Even back in 99 the biggest dorks went too baggy. There's definately a science to how baggy for your own body type looks good. It's something about the hips and ankles that makes the difference. Sagging pants always looks shit tho I was glad when that stopped and hate to see it coming back.

[Easy Slider]

I liked Blockhead

Same, how is that unpopular? I had the Omar Hassan dragster shirt. Wish I‘d still have it.

[somefucker]

Ventures are ugly and grind like shit.

Not a bad choice if you want a heavy pop feel and a good baseplate to slide on though.

But they're definitely ugly and grind like shit.

don't the hangars snap easily?

had this happen to me and a friend in our stair jumping phase.

also Aces grind smoother than Indys and have better stock everything.

[DaleSr]

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I liked Blockhead

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Same, how is that unpopular? I had the Omar Hassan dragster shirt. Wish I‘d still have it.

For real, blockhead rules

[IpathCats]

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Ventures are ugly and grind like shit.

Not a bad choice if you want a heavy pop feel and a good baseplate to slide on though.

But they're definitely ugly and grind like shit.

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don't the hangars snap easily?

had this happen to me and a friend in our stair jumping phase.

also Aces grind smoother than Indys and have better stock everything.

No idea about the hangars, Aces grind slow but do have a sort of soft feel that could maybe be described as "smooth" at least the classics anyways. Ace pivot cups suck, and stock indy bushings tend to blow out but i skate the hard ones, they don't do that. 

[somefucker]

No idea about the hangars, Aces grind slow but do have a sort of soft feel that could maybe be described as "smooth" at least the classics anyways. Ace pivot cups suck, and stock indy bushings tend to blow out but i skate the hard ones, they don't do that.

Debatable, I have AF1s so maybe their pivot cup is different. Had them a few months and put some 3/8" risers on em and have been doing grinds/slides more consistently.

I was referring to the red/yellow medium/soft bushing, those shits always cracked/split quickly

[Mean salto]

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Ventures are ugly and grind like shit.

Not a bad choice if you want a heavy pop feel and a good baseplate to slide on though.

But they're definitely ugly and grind like shit.

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don't the hangars snap easily?

had this happen to me and a friend in our stair jumping phase.

also Aces grind smoother than Indys and have better stock everything.

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No idea about the hangars, Aces grind slow but do have a sort of soft feel that could maybe be described as "smooth" at least the classics anyways. Ace pivot cups suck, and stock indy bushings tend to blow out but i skate the hard ones, they don't do that.

Rode ventures between 04-07 and every single baseplate broke. Probably broke 20+ baseplates but never broke a hangar

[Murge]

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Ventures are ugly and grind like shit.

Not a bad choice if you want a heavy pop feel and a good baseplate to slide on though.

But they're definitely ugly and grind like shit.

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don't the hangars snap easily?

had this happen to me and a friend in our stair jumping phase.

also Aces grind smoother than Indys and have better stock everything.

I recently went back to Indy because my ace kept sticking on chunky ledges. Miss the turn but Indy Tis are saving my old man legs. Ace gonna move to a tranny board

[swanronson]

I think if you are over the age of 20 with no sponsors/connections but are still actively trying to make it in the skate industry you are pretty much fucked.

I had a friend who was similar to this. Was on flow for a few big brands really was insanely good, but still not good enough to make it. Dude tried until his early 30’s and gave up. Lost his identity and everything, very sad to watch.

[somefucker]

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I think if you are over the age of 20 with no sponsors/connections but are still actively trying to make it in the skate industry you are pretty much fucked.

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I had a friend who was similar to this. Was on flow for a few big brands really was insanely good, but still not good enough to make it. Dude tried until his early 30’s and gave up. Lost his identity and everything, very sad to watch.

no other career path?

[honey island]

away days and since day are the exact same video

[4LOM]

I liked Blockhead

This is the unpopular opinion thread, not the common sense thread

[IpathCats]

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No idea about the hangars, Aces grind slow but do have a sort of soft feel that could maybe be described as "smooth" at least the classics anyways. Ace pivot cups suck, and stock indy bushings tend to blow out but i skate the hard ones, they don't do that.

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Debatable, I have AF1s so maybe their pivot cup is different. Had them a few months and put some 3/8" risers on em and have been doing grinds/slides more consistently.

I was referring to the red/yellow medium/soft bushing, those shits always cracked/split quickly

Check the ace thread in the gear section, even all the die hard ace people say the pivot cups still suck. And yea the stock indy orange bushings deff blow out. The AF1s supposedly grind more like indys than ace classics, but I wouldn't know i havent put much time on the set i bought yet.

[somefucker]

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No idea about the hangars, Aces grind slow but do have a sort of soft feel that could maybe be described as "smooth" at least the classics anyways. Ace pivot cups suck, and stock indy bushings tend to blow out but i skate the hard ones, they don't do that.

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Debatable, I have AF1s so maybe their pivot cup is different. Had them a few months and put some 3/8" risers on em and have been doing grinds/slides more consistently.

I was referring to the red/yellow medium/soft bushing, those shits always cracked/split quickly

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Check the ace thread in the gear section, even all the die hard ace people say the pivot cups still suck. And yea the stock indy orange bushings deff blow out. The AF1s supposedly grind more like indys than ace classics, but I wouldn't know i havent put much time on the set i bought yet.

I'll peep it.

I personally haven't had any problems with the pivot cup other than the fact it squeaks/pops when turning sharp when I first got them. I'd be open to trying Oski's ace/indy ripoffs also

[Mean salto]

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I think if you are over the age of 20 with no sponsors/connections but are still actively trying to make it in the skate industry you are pretty much fucked.

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I had a friend who was similar to this. Was on flow for a few big brands really was insanely good, but still not good enough to make it. Dude tried until his early 30’s and gave up. Lost his identity and everything, very sad to watch.

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no other career path?

Have kinda known some people like this. I guess it's hard to have a career if you're trying to make skating work. Constantly hurt or trying to travel you basically have to put all your eggs in one basket.
I don't know about 20 being the cutoff I think Jake Hayes went pro in his very late twenties and Gabriel summers was in his 30s. Altho I'd rather give up and take any job over doing what gabbers does

[Painted Baby]

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Ventures are ugly and grind like shit.

Not a bad choice if you want a heavy pop feel and a good baseplate to slide on though.

But they're definitely ugly and grind like shit.

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don't the hangars snap easily?

had this happen to me and a friend in our stair jumping phase.

also Aces grind smoother than Indys and have better stock everything.

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No idea about the hangars, Aces grind slow but do have a sort of soft feel that could maybe be described as "smooth" at least the classics anyways. Ace pivot cups suck, and stock indy bushings tend to blow out but i skate the hard ones, they don't do that.

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Rode ventures between 04-07 and every single baseplate broke. Probably broke 20+ baseplates but never broke a hangar

I don't quite know the timeline but Ventures used to be distributed by Street Corner and I think that is when the quality was iffy. They have been back at DLX for awhile and this thread is the first time since the Venture resurgence that I have heard anyone bring up their shitty quality. I think they have pretty well ironed out those issues based on how much you see them in the Set-Up thread. Ace on the other hand stay dicey.