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Re: New royal trucks
« Reply #270 on: November 18, 2021, 07:33:32 PM »
I got the madness so bad I made this account just to provide the information I was desperately searching for.

They have a the stability feeling of a venture with an ace-like turn. The pinch I would say is closest to an Indy which I’ve never struggled with. That makes sense considering my axle-to-axle wb is ~17.125, averaged out from measuring both sides when the trucks were new and after my two sessions on them. The grind feels similar to an Indy metal, but due to the shape a more thunder lock in. I think they nailed it with the 52mm height for me and my sub-52mm classics. Bushings broke in right away, and tightened a bit with use. I kept them factory tightness and they were perfectly even back and front. The best part is, the baseplate grinds like an Indy/venture/ace. When they come out with the hollows and lights I’m certain I will become a lifer. Only negative think I can think of is the mayonnaise jar sized amount of lube they put in the pivot cups. My first slappy and it flew out like a cumshot and landed on my hanger haha. Feel free to ask questions or if you want more pictures, I’ll do my best. Cheers!

Creating an account on skateboarding's most hostile message board just to talk about experience with these trucks? Averaging out the wheelbase on 2 sides?

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Venture Truck Height:

5.0 & 5.2 LO
STANDARD - 1.88” - 47.75mm
FORGED - 1.85”- 46.99mm

5.0 ,5.2, 5.6, 5.8 & 6.1 HI
STANDARD - 2.09” - 53.09mm
FORGED - 2.04” - 51.82m

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Re: New royal trucks
« Reply #271 on: November 19, 2021, 01:39:11 AM »
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I got the madness so bad I made this account just to provide the information I was desperately searching for.

They have a the stability feeling of a venture with an ace-like turn. The pinch I would say is closest to an Indy which I’ve never struggled with. That makes sense considering my axle-to-axle wb is ~17.125, averaged out from measuring both sides when the trucks were new and after my two sessions on them. The grind feels similar to an Indy metal, but due to the shape a more thunder lock in. I think they nailed it with the 52mm height for me and my sub-52mm classics. Bushings broke in right away, and tightened a bit with use. I kept them factory tightness and they were perfectly even back and front. The best part is, the baseplate grinds like an Indy/venture/ace. When they come out with the hollows and lights I’m certain I will become a lifer. Only negative think I can think of is the mayonnaise jar sized amount of lube they put in the pivot cups. My first slappy and it flew out like a cumshot and landed on my hanger haha. Feel free to ask questions or if you want more pictures, I’ll do my best. Cheers!
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You'll fit right in - glad I ordered a pair during the SWH sale the other day.


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Re: New royal trucks
« Reply #272 on: November 19, 2021, 07:07:53 AM »
Weird, my cups were bone dry. Also, perhaps I ride looser, but my stock bushing didn't seem to stiffen up at all, inf fact, I was tightening them for around 4 sessions before they stabilized.

Still stock and still having a blast on them.

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Re: New royal trucks
« Reply #273 on: November 19, 2021, 01:51:27 PM »
Forgot it was Vet's day (here's to all of you vet's out there) and the DMV was closed, so here's a shitty clip for ya...apologies for the speed, and lack of shirt, this was right after the gym and first try :P Not captured: B/S 50-50 impossible out (it was also sloppy and gross).

The royals are still doing me right.



Good shit dude, got any tips on shuv out of slappy krooks? Been trying for a bit and can’t get the shuv to stay under me

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Re: New royal trucks
« Reply #274 on: November 19, 2021, 02:22:26 PM »
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Forgot it was Vet's day (here's to all of you vet's out there) and the DMV was closed, so here's a shitty clip for ya...apologies for the speed, and lack of shirt, this was right after the gym and first try :P Not captured: B/S 50-50 impossible out (it was also sloppy and gross).

The royals are still doing me right.


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Good shit dude, got any tips on shuv out of slappy krooks? Been trying for a bit and can’t get the shuv to stay under me

Thanks man! That was my first day trying, I've get them locked now, fast and long as I'm now sitting on top (don't forget to look down at your foot). For the record, I can 270ish out of nose slides so this was just a slight muscle memory modification (been trying those out of krooks starting yesterday, all of two tries.

Getting into them (I know, not what you are asking) was to get my foot in the krook spot before the slap, then just a little nudge, halfway to slapping into a nose slide) and really light on my back foot (more on that below) and the truck just locks in; the shuv I figured out by using the way I bail coming out 180 (not as fun).

Since it's a crook, you are already 45 degrees into the shove, if you look at the vid at like 00:00:02, I start to turn out of the krook a bit, like I'm planning to coming out 180, it almost goes to noseslide, I give it just a little nudge forward/outward with my back foot (my back foot is already in the pocket, with a little toe hang, and I am on the ball of my foot already, it's not even close to an actual shuv effort, again just a little nudge, followed by some position compensating/slight sex change stance shuffle.

Watch it at 0.25% speed and you'll see the back foot does most of the work as far as effort, front foot just a bit of twist, from there I just rotate to the right to catch it.

Put your hands flat on a table, left hand more forward than the right (krook stance), simultaneously move the left hand back, right hand forward.



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Re: New royal trucks
« Reply #275 on: November 20, 2021, 08:52:45 PM »
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Forgot it was Vet's day (here's to all of you vet's out there) and the DMV was closed, so here's a shitty clip for ya...apologies for the speed, and lack of shirt, this was right after the gym and first try :P Not captured: B/S 50-50 impossible out (it was also sloppy and gross).

The royals are still doing me right.


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Good shit dude, got any tips on shuv out of slappy krooks? Been trying for a bit and can’t get the shuv to stay under me
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Thanks man! That was my first day trying, I've get them locked now, fast and long as I'm now sitting on top (don't forget to look down at your foot). For the record, I can 270ish out of nose slides so this was just a slight muscle memory modification (been trying those out of krooks starting yesterday, all of two tries.

Getting into them (I know, not what you are asking) was to get my foot in the krook spot before the slap, then just a little nudge, halfway to slapping into a nose slide) and really light on my back foot (more on that below) and the truck just locks in; the shuv I figured out by using the way I bail coming out 180 (not as fun).

Since it's a crook, you are already 45 degrees into the shove, if you look at the vid at like 00:00:02, I start to turn out of the krook a bit, like I'm planning to coming out 180, it almost goes to noseslide, I give it just a little nudge forward/outward with my back foot (my back foot is already in the pocket, with a little toe hang, and I am on the ball of my foot already, it's not even close to an actual shuv effort, again just a little nudge, followed by some position compensating/slight sex change stance shuffle.

Thanks for the full on explanation!! I watched this a bunch of times and it really seems like I need to focus less on my feet and more on my shoulders to get the shuv out (I can slappy front nose slide shuv out, and that’s what helped with that one- different for sure but it looks like you do something similar). Gonna go to the curb spot soon and see if I can get this. I’m sure it’ll click eventually

Watch it at 0.25% speed and you'll see the back foot does most of the work as far as effort, front foot just a bit of twist, from there I just rotate to the right to catch it.

Put your hands flat on a table, left hand more forward than the right (krook stance), simultaneously move the left hand back, right hand forward.

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Re: New royal trucks
« Reply #276 on: December 02, 2021, 05:31:12 PM »
Now that we're a few weeks in, how are everyone's Royals holding up?

I'm about to size back down to an 8 from 8.25 and am very close to snagging some Royal 139s today, while the Cyber week sales are still going.

I do have an old set of bog standard Indy 139s but I think they're gonna feel too tall, and these seem to tick all the boxes.

SHOULD I COMMIT?

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Re: New royal trucks
« Reply #277 on: December 02, 2021, 06:26:05 PM »
Now that we're a few weeks in, how are everyone's Royals holding up?

I'm about to size back down to an 8 from 8.25 and am very close to snagging some Royal 139s today, while the Cyber week sales are still going.

I do have an old set of bog standard Indy 139s but I think they're gonna feel too tall, and these seem to tick all the boxes.

SHOULD I COMMIT?

If you posted here you already know the answer.

Where did you see deals on this truck?

Edit: mine are still 2 weeks out but I'm a total sucker for marketing, so i got a pair of the IKP
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5.0 & 5.2 LO
STANDARD - 1.88” - 47.75mm
FORGED - 1.85”- 46.99mm

5.0 ,5.2, 5.6, 5.8 & 6.1 HI
STANDARD - 2.09” - 53.09mm
FORGED - 2.04” - 51.82m

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Re: New royal trucks
« Reply #278 on: December 02, 2021, 08:45:07 PM »
https://www.boardersonline.com.au/royal-standard-raw-skateboard-trucks

This Aussie shop is still doing 20 percent off for cyber week.

Just looking at the pics, the hanger looks kind of different. Or maybe I'm overanalysing it. Can anyone confirm these are the new ones? I don't want to end up with the old model.

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Re: New royal trucks
« Reply #279 on: December 02, 2021, 08:58:22 PM »
https://www.boardersonline.com.au/royal-standard-raw-skateboard-trucks

This Aussie shop is still doing 20 percent off for cyber week.

Just looking at the pics, the hanger looks kind of different. Or maybe I'm overanalysing it. Can anyone confirm these are the new ones? I don't want to end up with the old model.


The lighting on the hanger is weird, I think that's what you are seeing. The marketing attached to that image is for sure for the new model.

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Re: New royal trucks
« Reply #280 on: December 02, 2021, 08:59:12 PM »
https://www.boardersonline.com.au/royal-standard-raw-skateboard-trucks

This Aussie shop is still doing 20 percent off for cyber week.

Just looking at the pics, the hanger looks kind of different. Or maybe I'm overanalysing it. Can anyone confirm these are the new ones? I don't want to end up with the old model.

Can't say for sure since you can't see the bushing color. Old ones are black, new ones are a deep blue.

Best to give them a call or DM them to verify. I would be pissed too if I got a pair of the old ones.
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STANDARD - 1.88” - 47.75mm
FORGED - 1.85”- 46.99mm

5.0 ,5.2, 5.6, 5.8 & 6.1 HI
STANDARD - 2.09” - 53.09mm
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Re: New royal trucks
« Reply #281 on: December 02, 2021, 09:35:08 PM »
Many thanks gents, I think I'm just gonna say "fuck it" and pull the trigger.

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Re: New royal trucks
« Reply #282 on: December 02, 2021, 10:12:23 PM »
nice to know that the inverted version comes in 159 size..

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Re: New royal trucks
« Reply #283 on: December 03, 2021, 06:45:36 AM »
RTR2050-501 code used on https://www.boardersonline.com.au/royal-standard-raw-skateboard-trucks

Bring up the new royal on other sites. I'd still call/dm them to be make sure.

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Re: New royal trucks
« Reply #284 on: December 05, 2021, 01:01:08 PM »
Fuck, I recently bought a pair thinking they were the new ones, but apparently they have black bushings so they're the crappy old ones.

I'll still try to skate them and see how they feel. I switched up the pivot cups and the bushings, so maybe that'll make a difference.

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Re: New royal trucks
« Reply #285 on: December 05, 2021, 01:36:31 PM »
Fuck, I recently bought a pair thinking they were the new ones, but apparently they have black bushings so they're the crappy old ones.

I'll still try to skate them and see how they feel. I switched up the pivot cups and the bushings, so maybe that'll make a difference.

The black ones have black bushings I think. Do the baseplates say royal on both sides, or do they have two parallel lines on one side?

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Re: New royal trucks
« Reply #286 on: December 05, 2021, 02:07:10 PM »
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Fuck, I recently bought a pair thinking they were the new ones, but apparently they have black bushings so they're the crappy old ones.

I'll still try to skate them and see how they feel. I switched up the pivot cups and the bushings, so maybe that'll make a difference.
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The black ones have black bushings I think. Do the baseplates say royal on both sides, or do they have two parallel lines on one side?

Two parallel lines on one side. Looks like the new ones say royal on both sides. Man, this is the problem with online shopping, you don’t know exactly what you’re getting all the time. Ah well

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Re: New royal trucks
« Reply #287 on: December 05, 2021, 05:18:37 PM »
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Fuck, I recently bought a pair thinking they were the new ones, but apparently they have black bushings so they're the crappy old ones.

I'll still try to skate them and see how they feel. I switched up the pivot cups and the bushings, so maybe that'll make a difference.
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The black ones have black bushings I think. Do the baseplates say royal on both sides, or do they have two parallel lines on one side?
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Two parallel lines on one side. Looks like the new ones say royal on both sides. Man, this is the problem with online shopping, you don’t know exactly what you’re getting all the time. Ah well

For what it's worth, I'm one of the few that liked the old version (still haven't tried the new ones). If you want a low, surfy truck, they're great. Never had a problem with them. They feel great on a DLX 8.06 (or something else with a 14.38-14.5 WB). The only reason I retired mine is cus I started skating shorter boards and couldn't find one with a WB that paired well with them.

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Re: New royal trucks
« Reply #288 on: December 05, 2021, 05:47:38 PM »
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Fuck, I recently bought a pair thinking they were the new ones, but apparently they have black bushings so they're the crappy old ones.

I'll still try to skate them and see how they feel. I switched up the pivot cups and the bushings, so maybe that'll make a difference.
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The black ones have black bushings I think. Do the baseplates say royal on both sides, or do they have two parallel lines on one side?
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Two parallel lines on one side. Looks like the new ones say royal on both sides. Man, this is the problem with online shopping, you don’t know exactly what you’re getting all the time. Ah well

Sorry to hear that my dude, got myself a pair from Skate Warehouse that are landing today, hopefully they didn't screw me on this one.
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5.0 & 5.2 LO
STANDARD - 1.88” - 47.75mm
FORGED - 1.85”- 46.99mm

5.0 ,5.2, 5.6, 5.8 & 6.1 HI
STANDARD - 2.09” - 53.09mm
FORGED - 2.04” - 51.82m

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Re: New royal trucks
« Reply #289 on: December 05, 2021, 07:21:35 PM »
I got a ikp set from tactics with the %20 off deal.  149’s.  They arrived quickly and are the new ones…. Haven’t set them up yet because I just swapped my ventures for thunders and am liking them so don’t want to change again so soon.

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Re: New royal trucks
« Reply #290 on: December 05, 2021, 07:23:36 PM »
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Fuck, I recently bought a pair thinking they were the new ones, but apparently they have black bushings so they're the crappy old ones.

I'll still try to skate them and see how they feel. I switched up the pivot cups and the bushings, so maybe that'll make a difference.
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The black ones have black bushings I think. Do the baseplates say royal on both sides, or do they have two parallel lines on one side?
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Two parallel lines on one side. Looks like the new ones say royal on both sides. Man, this is the problem with online shopping, you don’t know exactly what you’re getting all the time. Ah well
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For what it's worth, I'm one of the few that liked the old version (still haven't tried the new ones). If you want a low, surfy truck, they're great. Never had a problem with them. They feel great on a DLX 8.06 (or something else with a 14.38-14.5 WB). The only reason I retired mine is cus I started skating shorter boards and couldn't find one with a WB that paired well with them.

Thanks! Yeah, I'll try them out. I usually ride shorter wheelbases but it's not the end of the world, I just got sparked off reading the comments in this thread. If I don't like them, there's always some organizations here that are looking for spare parts for kids' completes, so it's never a total loss.

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Re: New royal trucks
« Reply #291 on: December 05, 2021, 07:40:59 PM »
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Fuck, I recently bought a pair thinking they were the new ones, but apparently they have black bushings so they're the crappy old ones.

I'll still try to skate them and see how they feel. I switched up the pivot cups and the bushings, so maybe that'll make a difference.
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The black ones have black bushings I think. Do the baseplates say royal on both sides, or do they have two parallel lines on one side?
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Two parallel lines on one side. Looks like the new ones say royal on both sides. Man, this is the problem with online shopping, you don’t know exactly what you’re getting all the time. Ah well
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For what it's worth, I'm one of the few that liked the old version (still haven't tried the new ones). If you want a low, surfy truck, they're great. Never had a problem with them. They feel great on a DLX 8.06 (or something else with a 14.38-14.5 WB). The only reason I retired mine is cus I started skating shorter boards and couldn't find one with a WB that paired well with them.
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Thanks! Yeah, I'll try them out. I usually ride shorter wheelbases but it's not the end of the world, I just got sparked off reading the comments in this thread. If I don't like them, there's always some organizations here that are looking for spare parts for kids' completes, so it's never a total loss.

I was going to suggest sending them back for a refund, but your donation idea is way better.
Venture Truck Height:

5.0 & 5.2 LO
STANDARD - 1.88” - 47.75mm
FORGED - 1.85”- 46.99mm

5.0 ,5.2, 5.6, 5.8 & 6.1 HI
STANDARD - 2.09” - 53.09mm
FORGED - 2.04” - 51.82m

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Re: New royal trucks
« Reply #292 on: December 05, 2021, 08:48:57 PM »
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Fuck, I recently bought a pair thinking they were the new ones, but apparently they have black bushings so they're the crappy old ones.

I'll still try to skate them and see how they feel. I switched up the pivot cups and the bushings, so maybe that'll make a difference.
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The black ones have black bushings I think. Do the baseplates say royal on both sides, or do they have two parallel lines on one side?
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Two parallel lines on one side. Looks like the new ones say royal on both sides. Man, this is the problem with online shopping, you don’t know exactly what you’re getting all the time. Ah well
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For what it's worth, I'm one of the few that liked the old version (still haven't tried the new ones). If you want a low, surfy truck, they're great. Never had a problem with them. They feel great on a DLX 8.06 (or something else with a 14.38-14.5 WB). The only reason I retired mine is cus I started skating shorter boards and couldn't find one with a WB that paired well with them.

I liked the Royal fours. Had more than set, all were good. I’d skate them for sure, too into venture these days. I feel like the old ones (4s) were 50.5 mm tall (this is from memory and quite possibly bs), and the new ones are 52 mm tall. I prefer shorter, I think.
Not sure what effect either have on wb…I’ve skated aces, which have the least extension to the effective wb, on boards with short wheelbases, and had great results. I bring that up just to say is it’s never been that easy for to figure out what’s going to work

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Re: New royal trucks
« Reply #293 on: December 05, 2021, 10:59:38 PM »
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Fuck, I recently bought a pair thinking they were the new ones, but apparently they have black bushings so they're the crappy old ones.

I'll still try to skate them and see how they feel. I switched up the pivot cups and the bushings, so maybe that'll make a difference.
[close]

The black ones have black bushings I think. Do the baseplates say royal on both sides, or do they have two parallel lines on one side?
[close]

Two parallel lines on one side. Looks like the new ones say royal on both sides. Man, this is the problem with online shopping, you don’t know exactly what you’re getting all the time. Ah well
[close]

For what it's worth, I'm one of the few that liked the old version (still haven't tried the new ones). If you want a low, surfy truck, they're great. Never had a problem with them. They feel great on a DLX 8.06 (or something else with a 14.38-14.5 WB). The only reason I retired mine is cus I started skating shorter boards and couldn't find one with a WB that paired well with them.

Low, surfy and paired with a 14.3” wb is on point.

This is the longest run I’ve not swapped trucks since I first skated ACE.

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Re: New royal trucks
« Reply #294 on: December 06, 2021, 12:24:07 AM »
I got a ikp set from tactics with the %20 off deal.  149’s.  They arrived quickly and are the new ones…. Haven’t set them up yet because I just swapped my ventures for thunders and am liking them so don’t want to change again so soon.

No reason not to switch unless you really need the Thunder twitch. They're basically a surfy Thunder with better baseplate-to-wheel clearance. Or in other words, a better turning Venture with a more convenient wheelbase. If those brands were the last two you skated you will love the Royals, they nailed it with these.

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Re: New royal trucks
« Reply #295 on: December 06, 2021, 01:28:36 AM »
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I got a ikp set from tactics with the %20 off deal.  149’s.  They arrived quickly and are the new ones…. Haven’t set them up yet because I just swapped my ventures for thunders and am liking them so don’t want to change again so soon.
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No reason not to switch unless you really need the Thunder twitch. They're basically a surfy Thunder with better baseplate-to-wheel clearance. Or in other words, a better turning Venture with a more convenient wheelbase. If those brands were the last two you skated you will love the Royals, they nailed it with these.

Mine were supposed to be delivered today but got reschedule till tomorrow.

Venture Truck Height:

5.0 & 5.2 LO
STANDARD - 1.88” - 47.75mm
FORGED - 1.85”- 46.99mm

5.0 ,5.2, 5.6, 5.8 & 6.1 HI
STANDARD - 2.09” - 53.09mm
FORGED - 2.04” - 51.82m

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Re: New royal trucks
« Reply #296 on: December 06, 2021, 01:57:36 AM »
Oh you motherfuckers.

I was doing sooo good too.

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Re: New royal trucks
« Reply #297 on: December 06, 2021, 02:23:25 AM »
My biggest reason to wait is the pop feel.
I really like the long wheelbase feel of venture and thunder for the feel of my tail/nose hitting and tipping point.
How is the pop feel compared to these?
Independent feels off to me…..
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I got a ikp set from tactics with the %20 off deal.  149’s.  They arrived quickly and are the new ones…. Haven’t set them up yet because I just swapped my ventures for thunders and am liking them so don’t want to change again so soon.
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No reason not to switch unless you really need the Thunder twitch. They're basically a surfy Thunder with better baseplate-to-wheel clearance. Or in other words, a better turning Venture with a more convenient wheelbase. If those brands were the last two you skated you will love the Royals, they nailed it with these.

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Re: New royal trucks
« Reply #298 on: December 06, 2021, 07:05:18 AM »
My biggest reason to wait is the pop feel.
I really like the long wheelbase feel of venture and thunder for the feel of my tail/nose hitting and tipping point.
How is the pop feel compared to these?
Independent feels off to me…..
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I got a ikp set from tactics with the %20 off deal.  149’s.  They arrived quickly and are the new ones…. Haven’t set them up yet because I just swapped my ventures for thunders and am liking them so don’t want to change again so soon.
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No reason not to switch unless you really need the Thunder twitch. They're basically a surfy Thunder with better baseplate-to-wheel clearance. Or in other words, a better turning Venture with a more convenient wheelbase. If those brands were the last two you skated you will love the Royals, they nailed it with these.
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Wheelbase and height and thus pop-feel match up most closely with Thunder as far as I can tell. Only reason to stick to Thunders is that ultra responsive turn, or if the idea of more wheel clearance on nose/tail slides has no appeal to you. I don’t see a reason to skate Ventures any more quite frankly. Not to mention the Royal bushings are way better than either of those brands.

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Re: New royal trucks
« Reply #299 on: December 06, 2021, 08:25:43 AM »
Oh you motherfuckers.

I was doing sooo good too.

What have you been staying on?
I’ve been all venture. And it’s gonna stay that way.





But I could try these.
Maybe.