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Gotta say, opening statement of "98% of this thing i support is a scam, but hear me out on the other 2%" is a bold strategy.
Again, this just shows what incredible ignorance you have. You're lumping "crypto" as this one thing that you're all in on or not and if something is somehow connected to "crypto," it's automatically a scam. Imagine using that lens as your worldview. You sound like a person who'd sit down to a conversation with someone who shared a different perspective and just really hear them out.
Like it or not crypto is now a big catch all term for everything from nfts to monero. All of these supposed benefits that you claim have not come true. Liberation has not come from dogecoin being accepted as currency in el Salvador or Nigeria. The market value for a lot of these currencies fluctuates wildly, it's not a good omen for the viability of your model if you have a black Friday style crash every three to four years. You're mad at me because you've sunk money into this project and now there are stakes for you. You have a vested interest in not looking like a fool for putting your money in this, and no matter what i say, you will continue to defend it because you don't want to lose that money. So you continue to say it will overthrow banking and provide a new paradigm shift in the way the financial world operates. Which is laughable.
Odd you keep just making more assuming statements without those ever being said. Maybe read more of people's comments before making broad, sweeping assumptions in your head. I'm 75% invested in BTC and the rest in other projects I think have real utility and future promise. No NFT's or any meme coins. And never once said I think BTC will overthrow banking and provide a new paradigm. There's people who think that, but I don't agree with it. And I started buying when BTC was $12k and I'll continue to happily dollar cost average in longterm. Keep up the good fight Dale!
I'm genuinely interested in blockchain technologies with real-world utility which isn't a libertarian wetdream. Can you please explain what you see as promising, and how it will be beneficial to the common working-class person? Also, how do you justify the energy consumption and GPU time which could go to research for curing diseases: https://foldingathome.org/start-folding/?lng=en-US (Which is what I do, and if you have a halfway decent GPU, please do the same)
Signed,
Curious no-coiner
I went back and forth with the TheLurper a while back, so I don't have the energy to type it out again, but here's the page on the thread where we discussed some thoughts. It goes onto page 11 too.
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=110245.270Some of my thoughts I'd slightly alter now a little bit, but I enjoyed different viewpoints. I don't see any value in debating someone like Dale because it's quite apparent his view won't change no matter what.
And the energy debate is very nuanced. If you think BTC has no value, then any amount of energy is a waste. If you think it has value like I do, then debating how the energy is used is useful. Hopefully in the same way you might criticize energy use of Bitcoin you'd do the same to any other system and their use of energy. As a whole I think BTC mining can do better, but is constantly moving towards more renewables and capturing energy that would've been wasted anyways. There's tons of great debates on the efficiency of mining, which I'd be happy to share if you'd like.
But as a whole, I'd say the value I see overall to BTC is in response to our current debt cycle spiral and monetary systems owned by governments/central banking. I think we're handcuffed in terms of not being to find anyway of getting out of inflation long term and money printing will continue and increasing rates, further debasing the dollar. Our purchasing power will continue to decrease and that will affect mainly the poor and middle class.
If you're interested in people who have some good insight on debt cycles, I really like Greg Foss and Jeff Booth. Also Alex Gladstein does great work with the Human Right Foundation and why he believes Bitcoin can and is helping those in authoritarian-led countries.
I think people forget that BTC is still a new technology and isn't ideal as monetary policy in the current state. I don't think having El Salvador adopt it as legal tender really is some amazing leap forward since many people just want something more stable in the time being. But as time goes on, I just see the value of a growing decentralized monetary system where miners are constantly adding more and more security to the network and there's a fixed supply.
I honestly don't mind when people don't like BTC or have concerns, but I think those that criticize it with a lack of understanding just add no value to any conversation.
And I'm in the same boat on the libertarian wet dream. I'm not in the camp of thinking the world will be come this anarcho capitalistic world of self-sovereignty and Bitcoin citadels. But I do agree there is a way BTC can almost be a check and balance system to our current financial world that's increasingly worrying to me.
If you're curious on what initially made me interested in BTC and the history of money and our current monetary policy, shoot me a message and I can share some stuff that was super informative.