CURRENT WOODSHOP DIRECTORY 2025 + misc deck and board info, help, questions, etc

[Woodshop]

Powell Peralta has it in their K26 concave.

That's the sort of information I am after in this thread.

Sure I get to see a good number of boards and stand on pretty much anything I can get my hands on too, but I know I can never stand on everything.

Thanks for sharing!

[BALARGUE]

I don't know if they run it across all shapes but HLC (Spain) makes spoon shaped kicks on the High Concave Square shape

https://mfg.hlcdist.com/shape/m02369/

[roba]

i got the current ftc shop deck and it was still PS stix, shitty as always, tail snapped smoove off within 24 hours of setting it up

i got a late nite stars deck after that and it had an indented dot near the front trucks and nothing else. would that be clutch?

[Woodshop]

I don't know if they run it across all shapes but HLC (Spain) makes spoon shaped kicks on the High Concave Square shape

https://mfg.hlcdist.com/shape/m02369/

Thanks!

I wonder how many woodshops have adopted a mold similar to BBS over the years, or if some woodshops have a few options, eg one or more molds with spoon concave kicks, then all their regular ones.  Molds don't seem to be cheap to make, especially for the long lasting ones, so I could see this in the same way that the new woodshops have an advantage over the older ones, in that they buy new technology, rather than using what could almost be described as outdated machinery and those old single style presses (four to a press) rather than the multi presses which can do up to nine or ten decks each press, all single pressed.

i got the current ftc shop deck and it was still PS stix, shitty as always, tail snapped smoove off within 24 hours of setting it up

i got a late nite stars deck after that and it had an indented dot near the front trucks and nothing else. would that be clutch?

I think a single dot or nail head mark on a board is maybe the hardest one to determine as so many woodshops do have something like that.

The old dimple, as in a much wider tool mark, was more so BBS, but again, that doesn't stop anyone else doing something similar.  The warning sticker might be one of the only factors which can help there, so if it was made in Mexico, then it could most likely be BBS.

Clutch usually (but people have said not always) has the letter and number stamp for the size / shape option, which I have still seen on current decks, as well as a different feel to BBS concaves.

I tried to put up multiple pics and info on the first page, with all the options, but even that might be somewhat outdated now.

Eg:


First page, fifth or so post after the initial woodshop listings, then board markings.


https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=120409.msg3729106#msg3729106



This is a Baker board, same as Heroin, Birdhouse and Deathwish, all having the dot in the middle and the size stamp just below that, on the front truck area, which is BBS wood. This one being an 8.475 size deck.

[TwisT]

@Woodshop

warehouse post from https://www.instagram.com/shopdecksales/ which is the west coast distro partner for Quincy, where they print and ship.

Downloaded the larger image
i.imgur.com/5ViNlrH.jpeg

Primitives which we knew, but Disorder and ^*gasp* Anti-Hero.

[Woodshop]

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Thanks for the info and update.


I had typed up something, in an excited haste but then thought it was better to remove it.

Primitive had been on that wood for a bit hadn't it?  Black and white diamond sticker?

Disorder, someone had said they had boards from China, but I am guessing now along with other tariff issues, they are getting them done more cheaply within USA, which makes sense, especially with PS Stix gone.

Don't know if that is actually an eagle or what though.

Curious to see any which way.


* In thinking about it too, I have seen a few boards with similar "eagle looking" tops that were not Antihero decks, including one shop board done here locally a while back, that was a direct copy / parody of AH eagle, with different text for the shop name - not saying as they had only limited stock and didn't want to get in trouble - but I wonder if that is the case or quite what.


** I am even more curious now, but I wonder if Rich would help with more info.

[Obijuan91]

Got a quasi deck cuz the dimensions seemed cool 8.125x31.75
Stacked it up against my anti hero 31.7 and the quasi came up shorter. Instantly bummed hate that ps sticks measurement. Anyone know if toy machines are the same since they’re pressed over there?

[nopopnostyle]

I was browsing a german webshop today and it looks like there’s Chinese made Baker Boards now.
A blue Brand Logo 8.5 and a green 8.38, the other boards from the new drop seem to be BBS still.

Thought they were BBS only?

[Ghost Face]

I was browsing a german webshop today and it looks like there’s Chinese made Baker Boards now.
A blue Brand Logo 8.5 and a green 8.38, the other boards from the new drop seem to be BBS still.

Thought they were BBS only?

Baker's always been one of the top "alibaba brands" and knock offs made in China. Baker, Toy Machine and Zero are always shown there. If it's through the legitimate distro you should be fine but still....

https://www.aliexpress.com/w/wholesale-skateboard-decks.html?spm=a2g0o.home.search.0

[nopopnostyle]

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I was browsing a german webshop today and it looks like there’s Chinese made Baker Boards now.
A blue Brand Logo 8.5 and a green 8.38, the other boards from the new drop seem to be BBS still.

Thought they were BBS only?

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Baker's always been one of the top "alibaba brands" and knock offs made in China. Baker, Toy Machine and Zero are always shown there. If it's through the legitimate distro you should be fine but still....

https://www.aliexpress.com/w/wholesale-skateboard-decks.html?spm=a2g0o.home.search.0

I’m pretty sure they’re official, they are in several shops now, lower prices,
and the shop connected to the distribution here has them listed along deathwish made in china decks now as well.

Looks like they’re going the DLX Route were the US is still getting everything BBS and the rest of the world is getting Chinese, in this case probably DSM, made decks.

[Benchpress]

Just got a Quasi 8.5x14.25. Surprised to see its still PS wood. Thought they'd been on BBS for a minute.

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I was browsing a german webshop today and it looks like there’s Chinese made Baker Boards now.
A blue Brand Logo 8.5 and a green 8.38, the other boards from the new drop seem to be BBS still.

Thought they were BBS only?

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Baker's always been one of the top "alibaba brands" and knock offs made in China. Baker, Toy Machine and Zero are always shown there. If it's through the legitimate distro you should be fine but still....

https://www.aliexpress.com/w/wholesale-skateboard-decks.html?spm=a2g0o.home.search.0

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I’m pretty sure they’re official, they are in several shops now, lower prices,
and the shop connected to the distribution here has them listed along deathwish made in china decks now as well.

Looks like they’re going the DLX Route were the US is still getting everything BBS and the rest of the world is getting Chinese, in this case probably DSM, made decks.

Perfect. Sounds legit.

[Mbrimson88]

Just got a Quasi 8.5x14.25. Surprised to see its still PS wood. Thought they'd been on BBS for a minute.

I think the best way to check is go to the Quasi site first, as they have them all listed with which wood. 

Newer drops of course are all BBS now, but anything older could or most likely is PS Stix.  I have seen some boards that are quite old around here, still PS Stix but still full price in shops, so I would imagine that more than anything.

Never quite know though, unless you can see the top of the board in person, or the shop has pics in the listing.


https://quasiskateboards.com/collections/decks


Examples from their site:

https://quasiskateboards.com/collections/decks/products/rowe-bygone-8-5

Rowe 'Bygone' [8.5”]
■ Jon Rowe Pro Model
■ 8.5" x 32.125" WB 14.25"
■ Shape: Q63
■ Manufactured at BBS
■ Full Dip Paint


https://quasiskateboards.com/collections/decks/products/drop-out-8-5

Drop-Out [8.5”]
■ 8.5" x 32.125" WB 14.25"
■ Shape: Q63
■ Manufactured at PS Stix

[Obijuan91]

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Just got a Quasi 8.5x14.25. Surprised to see its still PS wood. Thought they'd been on BBS for a minute.

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I think the best way to check is go to the Quasi site first, as they have them all listed with which wood. 

Newer drops of course are all BBS now, but anything older could or most likely is PS Stix.  I have seen some boards that are quite old around here, still PS Stix but still full price in shops, so I would imagine that more than anything.

Never quite know though, unless you can see the top of the board in person, or the shop has pics in the listing.


https://quasiskateboards.com/collections/decks


Examples from their site:

https://quasiskateboards.com/collections/decks/products/rowe-bygone-8-5

Rowe 'Bygone' [8.5”]
■ Jon Rowe Pro Model
■ 8.5" x 32.125" WB 14.25"
■ Shape: Q63
■ Manufactured at BBS
■ Full Dip Paint


https://quasiskateboards.com/collections/decks/products/drop-out-8-5

Drop-Out [8.5”]
■ 8.5" x 32.125" WB 14.25"
■ Shape: Q63
■ Manufactured at PS Stix

What I’m curious about tho is if the bbs one is actually 32.125 or if they’re measuring with the concave like ps does

[Woodshop]

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I was browsing a german webshop today and it looks like there’s Chinese made Baker Boards now.
A blue Brand Logo 8.5 and a green 8.38, the other boards from the new drop seem to be BBS still.

Thought they were BBS only?

[close]

Baker's always been one of the top "alibaba brands" and knock offs made in China. Baker, Toy Machine and Zero are always shown there. If it's through the legitimate distro you should be fine but still....

https://www.aliexpress.com/w/wholesale-skateboard-decks.html?spm=a2g0o.home.search.0

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I’m pretty sure they’re official, they are in several shops now, lower prices,
and the shop connected to the distribution here has them listed along deathwish made in china decks now as well.

Looks like they’re going the DLX Route were the US is still getting everything BBS and the rest of the world is getting Chinese, in this case probably DSM, made decks.

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Perfect. Sounds legit.

I am interested to hear more, or at the very least, see any shop links to the other boards.

Not a big deal if you don't want to say which shop or post any links, but that might be the easiest way to start to look them up and see.

As per some other brand distributors, like the ones for FA / Hockey, they now have the option to get either BBS or China made boards, or both if so willing, for their local country or market.  Some still get the BBS made boards, but most I think take the cheaper options, so with increasing prices across the board, any country besides USA might find they do better with China made boards, or a combination of both, maybe team boards / price point versions on China made wood, then the pro or higher price versions on BBS wood.

This is just speculation for these brands, so although I have not seen anything other than BBS for Baker and Deathwish in AU, Birdhouse has been doing China made boards here for the most part now for the last few years, so if they were all under the same distro, I wonder if they might at some point choose to do the same.  The only difference is that the China made boards are a more generic mold, concave and not at all like BBS concaves, for the Birdhouse decks I have stood on.


I feel like there is a fair bit to check and update on the main listing too, but in doing so, is it (USA only) or (Rest of the world) that I can add to the listings, maybe more so than having half a dozen for each brand, eg

Baker (EU) China 2025
Baker (USA) BBS
Baker (AU) BBS
Baker (Asia) Both??


To add to that, we just got the first DLX China made eagles in stock / in shops now here in AU, which after skating a few (including an 8.75 China made AH board last night) I could say that they really are a good substitute and I can see why they are moving in that direction now.

They are still too stiff from new for me, but they are the same concave and feel comfortable to stand on, so at a lower price, it is understandable that they will be a better seller here than the significantly higher cost of a DLX BBS made board.

Interesting times, that's for sure.

[Mbrimson88]

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Just got a Quasi 8.5x14.25. Surprised to see its still PS wood. Thought they'd been on BBS for a minute.

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I think the best way to check is go to the Quasi site first, as they have them all listed with which wood. 

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What I’m curious about tho is if the bbs one is actually 32.125 or if they’re measuring with the concave like ps does

Yeah, I would need to have what are said to have the same shape in my hand, one of each to then compare, maybe more so than just measuring a new BBS board, but someone on here might have one and be able to check for us.


* Went looking in the Qusasi thread and here's the answer, or at least a partially good answer - the BBS is longer:


Quasi thread:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=108613.510

Just got 2 Q63‘s in the mail.
#1 latest Rowe (BBS‘s Q63) alongside
#2 Barker 3 (the PS proto 8.5 shape later to be labeled Q63)

https://skateaholic.it/prodotti/2614-5133-quasi-skateboards-bygone-deck.html#/75-misura_tavola-85
https://skateaholic.it/prodotti/1248-2072-quasi-skateboards-barker-3-deck.html#/75-misura_tavola-85

The PS is a relatively flat one considering their „usual differences within production tolerance“.This particular BBS one is less flat (in concave and kicks) than the PS board. Can‘t tell if this is a steep one compared with other BBS pressings.

The BBS is a little longer than the PS one (which appears to be difference in tail length). Plus, BBS seems to be a hair smaller in width.

That being said there’s really not much noteable visual difference.

[nopopnostyle]

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I was browsing a german webshop today and it looks like there’s Chinese made Baker Boards now.
A blue Brand Logo 8.5 and a green 8.38, the other boards from the new drop seem to be BBS still.

Thought they were BBS only?

[close]

Baker's always been one of the top "alibaba brands" and knock offs made in China. Baker, Toy Machine and Zero are always shown there. If it's through the legitimate distro you should be fine but still....

https://www.aliexpress.com/w/wholesale-skateboard-decks.html?spm=a2g0o.home.search.0

[close]

I’m pretty sure they’re official, they are in several shops now, lower prices,
and the shop connected to the distribution here has them listed along deathwish made in china decks now as well.

Looks like they’re going the DLX Route were the US is still getting everything BBS and the rest of the world is getting Chinese, in this case probably DSM, made decks.

[close]

Perfect. Sounds legit.

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I am interested to hear more, or at the very least, see any shop links to the other boards.

Not a big deal if you don't want to say which shop or post any links, but that might be the easiest way to start to look them up and see.

As per some other brand distributors, like the ones for FA / Hockey, they now have the option to get either BBS or China made boards, or both if so willing, for their local country or market.  Some still get the BBS made boards, but most I think take the cheaper options, so with increasing prices across the board, any country besides USA might find they do better with China made boards, or a combination of both, maybe team boards / price point versions on China made wood, then the pro or higher price versions on BBS wood.

This is just speculation for these brands, so although I have not seen anything other than BBS for Baker and Deathwish in AU, Birdhouse has been doing China made boards here for the most part now for the last few years, so if they were all under the same distro, I wonder if they might at some point choose to do the same.  The only difference is that the China made boards are a more generic mold, concave and not at all like BBS concaves, for the Birdhouse decks I have stood on.


I feel like there is a fair bit to check and update on the main listing too, but in doing so, is it (USA only) or (Rest of the world) that I can add to the listings, maybe more so than having half a dozen for each brand, eg

Baker (EU) China 2025
Baker (USA) BBS
Baker (AU) BBS
Baker (Asia) Both??


To add to that, we just got the first DLX China made eagles in stock / in shops now here in AU, which after skating a few (including an 8.75 China made AH board last night) I could say that they really are a good substitute and I can see why they are moving in that direction now.

They are still too stiff from new for me, but they are the same concave and feel comfortable to stand on, so at a lower price, it is understandable that they will be a better seller here than the significantly higher cost of a DLX BBS made board.

Interesting times, that's for sure.

Thank you for your answer and very interesting for sure.
I didn’t want to derail the thread, but no problem, here  are some links:

https://www.concretewave.de/Baker-Skateboards-Brand-Logo-Forest-Green-deck-7875

Classic Skateshop in Cologne run by a Skateboarder. The Baker Boards priced at 74.95€ are the Chinese Ones. There aren’t side or top Pictures but Information about the woodshop.
I wrote an email and the owner replied that he has a choice between BBS or Chop Chop when ordering Baker Boards at the Distributor.
It should stay that way he was told. So they seem to go the FA Route instead of DLX.

Only time will tell if this is transitional or permanent.

Skatedeluxe has side and top pictures:

https://www.skatedeluxe.com/de/p/baker-brand-logo-8-38-skateboard-deck-forest-green_p180695

To me they don’t look like the OG Baker Concave, so it might be the same as you described with Birdhouse in your Country, Shapes are original, concave and kicks generic.

I wrote an email to them but no answer yet.

Have no desire to try them since I tried several Chinese DLX offerings and realized it’s not for me. A good product for sure and I’m happy for those who like it and have a cheaper option now. I just prefer the feel of BBS and like to have a choice.

We will see how it develops.

[eviltgirl]

Has anyone seen one of these in-person yet?  Hardboyd "Brolic"? Pics and pice kinda make it look like a 6-ply with fibreglass type construction.  Wonder what it really is

https://www.hardbodyskateboards.com/products/brolic-black-white-logo?variant=51673075024148

[Woodshop]

Has anyone seen one of these in-person yet?  Hardboyd "Brolic"? Pics and pice kinda make it look like a 6-ply with fibreglass type construction.  Wonder what it really is

https://www.hardbodyskateboards.com/products/brolic-black-white-logo?variant=51673075024148

Thanks for the post.


Hardbody is said to be BBS and looking at that pic, it reminds me a whole lot of another BBS composite board, so most likely just a different wood stain of this maybe...

Other BBS brands have been said to use it too, eg Baker /Reynolds board I seem to recall someone posting.

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[Hqjdncm]

I was looking at quasi to get one of their squared off shapes but it looks like they only really have that in 8.5. Their q63 shape. Their 8.75 is listed at their q46. Is this just their size and are their 8.75 squared off too like the 8.5 or not really. Cause looking at April their 8.75 looks plenty squared off in the pics and they are both bbs with the same wb

[mrosk8]

yes Quasi 8.75 is still full nose and tail(squared) also the BBS
have it at warehouse

[globe fusion]

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Has anyone seen one of these in-person yet?  Hardboyd "Brolic"? Pics and pice kinda make it look like a 6-ply with fibreglass type construction.  Wonder what it really is

https://www.hardbodyskateboards.com/products/brolic-black-white-logo?variant=51673075024148

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Thanks for the post.


Hardbody is said to be BBS and looking at that pic, it reminds me a whole lot of another BBS composite board, so most likely just a different wood stain of this maybe...

Other BBS brands have been said to use it too, eg Baker /Reynolds board I seem to recall someone posting.

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the hardbody brolic decks are the dlx dbx decks from bbs, seems like the basalt is no longer dlx exclusive
other brands to be coming soon

[TwisT]

I look forward to seeing each BBs company rebrand the same gimmick cm

[Hqjdncm]

yes Quasi 8.75 is still full nose and tail(squared) also the BBS
have it at warehouse

Swag might go for that then cause goddamn I hate the April logo

[Obijuan91]

idk if this would fall on woodshop thread or not but those anyone know how acuratre the specs on tactis boards are? i ordered the toy machine geoff rowley boards because i liked the lenght of it but on the official toy machine website they list it at a 32 whereas in tactics they list it at a 31.75. My local shop is a zumiez and mainland (not much options) and vans mall store just saying in case someones going to tell me to go support local.

[Jort250]

Grabbed an FA Gino board today from my local and noticed that it’s made in China. Should I expect it to skate like a NHS or Dwindle board? Also are all FA boards china now?

[Woodshop]

Grabbed an FA Gino board today from my local and noticed that it’s made in China. Should I expect it to skate like a NHS or Dwindle board? Also are all FA boards china now?

Searching FA comes up with nothing in this thread, but searching HOCKEY comes up with a fair bit of info about the FA / Hockey change over, first maybe on page 66 but most info, pics and comparisons on page 67, link below, thanks to @NihilandVoid for that info.

They are indeed from DSM, which is the woodshop behind Dwindle, also called Chop Chop Woodshop and the local distributors in any given area can choose to get boards from BBS, from China or both, last time someone posted info about it.

I guess for some people who are used to BBS, having something else can be a bit of a surprise, but other people like the wood from DSM so I guess it is just down to the individual.


https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=120409.1980

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=120409.msg4402877;topicseen#msg4402877

[Woodshop]

idk if this would fall on woodshop thread or not but those anyone know how acuratre the specs on tactis boards are? i ordered the toy machine geoff rowley boards because i liked the lenght of it but on the official toy machine website they list it at a 32 whereas in tactics they list it at a 31.75. My local shop is a zumiez and mainland (not much options) and vans mall store just saying in case someones going to tell me to go support local.

I had meant to post about this before, but I got distracted after looking up those boards in any and every place I could.


Oddly enough it could be a fairly even split between some shops listing them as 31.75 and others as 32 so I really don't know there, as I haven't seen any in person either.  Even wheelbase measurements seem to be 14 on the shorter board or 14.25 on the longer board, so maybe there are a couple of different woodshops being used for those in different places, which could mean two different shapes as well.

I do recall Toy Machine boards here were all kinds of funny a while back, but it has been too long and I don't know any other info besides what I have found online about them.

[TwisT]

I think tactics does their own measurements now. That would account for the inconsistency of the 32 and 31.75 measurements through different retailers. Catalog spec vs irl spec

[Jort250]

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Grabbed an FA Gino board today from my local and noticed that it’s made in China. Should I expect it to skate like a NHS or Dwindle board? Also are all FA boards china now?

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Searching FA comes up with nothing in this thread, but searching HOCKEY comes up with a fair bit of info about the FA / Hockey change over, first maybe on page 66 but most info, pics and comparisons on page 67, link below, thanks to @NihilandVoid for that info.

They are indeed from DSM, which is the woodshop behind Dwindle, also called Chop Chop Woodshop and the local distributors in any given area can choose to get boards from BBS, from China or both, last time someone posted info about it.

I guess for some people who are used to BBS, having something else can be a bit of a surprise, but other people like the wood from DSM so I guess it is just down to the individual.


https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=120409.1980

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=120409.msg4402877;topicseen#msg4402877

Cheers, I’m just happy that the shape (big nose and tail) is about the same. Hell I might even like this board more than a BBS because sometimes those are a bit too stiff for me and I got this board to work on my flat