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[LebowskisRug]

It’s not even about weight, just having some tendon and ligament strength as well as basic muscular strength around the joint. A lot of injuries happen from having too life strength to prevent the joint moving beyond the ROM.

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try emerica g6 shoes, special insoles never helped my knee ache. but switching shoes to g6 did help, no more pain.

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https://emerica.com/collections/accessories/products/g6-insole-green

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How much do they lift your heel up in the shoe compared to say, a nike zoom insole or an fp gamechanger? I'm interested but I can't deal with my foot sitting too high in the shoe as it leaves me pretty prone to ankle rolls. What is the arch support is similar to? Thanks!

I haven't had the zoom or FP's myself but personally the G6 Foam don't feel too high to me all. I'd say it's a better version of Vans Pop Cush or Ultracush with being able to have a more padded insole but have solid board feel.

[tzhangdox]

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try emerica g6 shoes, special insoles never helped my knee ache. but switching shoes to g6 did help, no more pain.

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https://emerica.com/collections/accessories/products/g6-insole-green

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How much do they lift your heel up in the shoe compared to say, a nike zoom insole or an fp gamechanger? I'm interested but I can't deal with my foot sitting too high in the shoe as it leaves me pretty prone to ankle rolls. What is the arch support is similar to? Thanks!

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I haven't had the zoom or FP's myself but personally the G6 Foam don't feel too high to me all. I'd say it's a better version of Vans Pop Cush or Ultracush with being able to have a more padded insole but have solid board feel.

Ah so similar height to vans insoles?

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try emerica g6 shoes, special insoles never helped my knee ache. but switching shoes to g6 did help, no more pain.

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https://emerica.com/collections/accessories/products/g6-insole-green

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How much do they lift your heel up in the shoe compared to say, a nike zoom insole or an fp gamechanger? I'm interested but I can't deal with my foot sitting too high in the shoe as it leaves me pretty prone to ankle rolls. What is the arch support is similar to? Thanks!

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I haven't had the zoom or FP's myself but personally the G6 Foam don't feel too high to me all. I'd say it's a better version of Vans Pop Cush or Ultracush with being able to have a more padded insole but have solid board feel.

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Ah so similar height to vans insoles?

I apologize in advance for my poor photo comparisons but as you can see the heel portion of our G6 is just slightly lower than the Vans Ultracush but the major thing is that the front of ours is a tad thicker than Vans so compared to theirs, ours is more "flat" which means your heel isn't as raised up in the back which hopefully answers your original question.

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try emerica g6 shoes, special insoles never helped my knee ache. but switching shoes to g6 did help, no more pain.

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https://emerica.com/collections/accessories/products/g6-insole-green

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How much do they lift your heel up in the shoe compared to say, a nike zoom insole or an fp gamechanger? I'm interested but I can't deal with my foot sitting too high in the shoe as it leaves me pretty prone to ankle rolls. What is the arch support is similar to? Thanks!

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I haven't had the zoom or FP's myself but personally the G6 Foam don't feel too high to me all. I'd say it's a better version of Vans Pop Cush or Ultracush with being able to have a more padded insole but have solid board feel.

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Ah so similar height to vans insoles?

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I apologize in advance for my poor photo comparisons but as you can see the heel portion of our G6 is just slightly lower than the Vans Ultracush but the major thing is that the front of ours is a tad thicker than Vans so compared to theirs, ours is more "flat" which means your heel isn't as raised up in the back which hopefully answers your original question.

perfect thank you so much!

[burm]

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Likely no one will agree with this take, but once you get a certain age you can't solve stuff like this with just shoes. Chances are if your feet hurt or you are prone to ankle rolling, you need to do some sort of prehab or rehab to actually strengthen your ankles.

About 1 year ago I fell while rock climbing and ruptured all the ligaments in my right ankle. It was constantly sore for months and despite doing adequate rehab, it would still tweak. In November I started actually doing some ankle strengthening movements (largely from the Kneesovertoesguy youtube) and the difference is night and day. I can actually skate shoes that I would have considered tippy in the past and I never get sore ankles, calves, or knees unless I do something super weird. Insoles are nice, but essentially a crutch for the rest of the skeletal chain.

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Oh no, I VERY much agree with this take. I could probably ‘solve’ the genesis of 90% of my gear madness, by trying to recomposition my body. When I was ‘decent’, I probably weighed 20#s less (20 years younger as well). Now I’m trying all types of setups and bullshit because I’m trash, and although I don’t ‘look’ fat, I’m not right physically. I complain about my weight, which is really a poor metric for health, mainly because my lower body starts to hurt more, and I become less motivated to do physical shit, which in turn fucks with the mentals. I notice lower leg, and foot pain, quickly. It keeps me off of board more than anything else. Diet would solve it. But nooooo. Here I am bothering strangers on the net with my rants/questions about ‘which wb will make me young’.

So yes, it’s pretty funny how I can lose as little as 5#s and all of a sudden enjoy skating in vulcs again.
I’ll check knees over toes, he seemed a bit much, but you gotta be I guess.

I’ve been using some of his exercises as well, but some of his stuff also seems so fanatical and erroneous that I was not surprised when I heard he’s a scientologist.

Developing the strength or structural integrity in the feet and legs definitely is the cure for these issues, but as for the symptoms I can say for me I get back pain / stiffness in my lower back when I skate Vans (the Pro Classics or whatever they were) within 30 minutes, and mostly none with NB# 1010s and SB Bruin Reacts, so I’m sticking with cupsoles for now.

Also working with a physical therapist currently and would love to skate some wide-fitting vulcs like Sk8 His again in future, but I can manage with cups as well

[radcunt]

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Likely no one will agree with this take, but once you get a certain age you can't solve stuff like this with just shoes. Chances are if your feet hurt or you are prone to ankle rolling, you need to do some sort of prehab or rehab to actually strengthen your ankles.

About 1 year ago I fell while rock climbing and ruptured all the ligaments in my right ankle. It was constantly sore for months and despite doing adequate rehab, it would still tweak. In November I started actually doing some ankle strengthening movements (largely from the Kneesovertoesguy youtube) and the difference is night and day. I can actually skate shoes that I would have considered tippy in the past and I never get sore ankles, calves, or knees unless I do something super weird. Insoles are nice, but essentially a crutch for the rest of the skeletal chain.

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Oh no, I VERY much agree with this take. I could probably ‘solve’ the genesis of 90% of my gear madness, by trying to recomposition my body. When I was ‘decent’, I probably weighed 20#s less (20 years younger as well). Now I’m trying all types of setups and bullshit because I’m trash, and although I don’t ‘look’ fat, I’m not right physically. I complain about my weight, which is really a poor metric for health, mainly because my lower body starts to hurt more, and I become less motivated to do physical shit, which in turn fucks with the mentals. I notice lower leg, and foot pain, quickly. It keeps me off of board more than anything else. Diet would solve it. But nooooo. Here I am bothering strangers on the net with my rants/questions about ‘which wb will make me young’.

So yes, it’s pretty funny how I can lose as little as 5#s and all of a sudden enjoy skating in vulcs again.
I’ll check knees over toes, he seemed a bit much, but you gotta be I guess.

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I’ve been using some of his exercises as well, but some of his stuff also seems so fanatical and erroneous that I was not surprised when I heard he’s a scientologist.

Developing the strength or structural integrity in the feet and legs definitely is the cure for these issues, but as for the symptoms I can say for me I get back pain / stiffness in my lower back when I skate Vans (the Pro Classics or whatever they were) within 30 minutes, and mostly none with NB# 1010s and SB Bruin Reacts, so I’m sticking with cupsoles for now.

Also working with a physical therapist currently and would love to skate some wide-fitting vulcs like Sk8 His again in future, but I can manage with cups as well

Oh shit he’s a Scientologist? We’ll if anyone wants the paid routine with YouTube links hit me up. Fuck those turkeys. The basic workout is really good though so was happy to pay.

[LebowskisRug]

Where on earth did you read that? His mentors were coaches that had gyms in my area when I was in college and are really well known in their respective performance niches. That group of individuals has probably 400+ gold medals amongst their athletes and IIRC he lives a pretty modest life and mostly blew up because of YouTube, but remains pretty respected among basketball and track coaches.

I quickly googled and there isn’t much to link him to Scientology other than someone with the same name completing courses and a gym owner in Clearwater being noted in some kooky mag.

Oddly tho he always seems really out of breath.

[burm]

Where on earth did you read that? His mentors were coaches that had gyms in my area when I was in college and are really well known in their respective performance niches. That group of individuals has probably 400+ gold medals amongst their athletes and IIRC he lives a pretty modest life and mostly blew up because of YouTube, but remains pretty respected among basketball and track coaches.

I quickly googled and there isn’t much to link him to Scientology other than someone with the same name completing courses and a gym owner in Clearwater being noted in some kooky mag.

Oddly tho he always seems really out of breath.

I read it on Slap of course, where else?

Then I checked out this reddit thread

from r/Kneesovertoes

Not concrete, plausible perhaps

[burm]

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Where on earth did you read that? His mentors were coaches that had gyms in my area when I was in college and are really well known in their respective performance niches. That group of individuals has probably 400+ gold medals amongst their athletes and IIRC he lives a pretty modest life and mostly blew up because of YouTube, but remains pretty respected among basketball and track coaches.

I quickly googled and there isn’t much to link him to Scientology other than someone with the same name completing courses and a gym owner in Clearwater being noted in some kooky mag.

Oddly tho he always seems really out of breath.

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I read it on Slap of course, where else?

Then I checked out this reddit thread

from r/Kneesovertoes

Not concrete, plausible perhaps

Ok, maybe more than just plausible

https://www.freedommag.org/magazine/florida/201910-clearwater-citizen/ben-patrick.html

https://www.scientology.org/videos/meet-a-scientologist/region/north-america/~mass-ben-patrik.html

[LebowskisRug]

Ya that’s the info I found and his name isn’t super unique either. Who knows honestly, what I care about is that my joints feel pain free. It’s not like I don’t watch Tom Cruise movies.

I am really disliking the Gamechangers in my Jordan 1’s- what’s the closest insole to stock? Kingfoam?

[burm]

Ya that’s the info I found and his name isn’t super unique either. Who knows honestly, what I care about is that my joints feel pain free. It’s not like I don’t watch Tom Cruise movies.

I am really disliking the Gamechangers in my Jordan 1’s-what’s the closest insole to stock? Kingfoam?

Yeah but in those links I posted you can see his face as well, which is a bit more unique, and he is wearing ATG gear, so it’s pretty clear he is indeed willingly endorsing Scientology.

Whether or not that has anything to do with his training philosophy can then be decided by each individual themselves. I found his advice on knees and ankles interesting and his advice on diet and vaccines no so much, but that’s the deal with everything in this space, you can pick and choose what works for you.

[fakiefs180]

Gamechangers are great if you enjoy rolling your ankle.

I binned my pair after 3 ankle rolls in 12 months... they sit your foot crazy high in the shoe. Fine for chilling but no way i'd skate them again.

Buyer beware on those, and deffo be conscious of shoe choice with them.

I had the exactly same happen to me but with fp orthotics insoles. Never again. Yes, they are comfy but your foot sits just too high in the shoe.

I really like the Lakai XLK insoles. When I was younger and didn't had money, I put a small layer of cardboard under my insole once and that was fine too.

[Xen]

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try emerica g6 shoes, special insoles never helped my knee ache. but switching shoes to g6 did help, no more pain.

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https://emerica.com/collections/accessories/products/g6-insole-green

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How much do they lift your heel up in the shoe compared to say, a nike zoom insole or an fp gamechanger? I'm interested but I can't deal with my foot sitting too high in the shoe as it leaves me pretty prone to ankle rolls. What is the arch support is similar to? Thanks!

Man, insoles are expensive (not just these) close to the cost of another pair of shoes! @EmericaTM are these the same insoles in the Spanky release?

Gamechangers are great if you enjoy rolling your ankle.

I binned my pair after 3 ankle rolls in 12 months... they sit your foot crazy high in the shoe. Fine for chilling but no way i'd skate them again.

Buyer beware on those, and deffo be conscious of shoe choice with them.

That's partially why I switched to the 3mm ones.

[SlapTM]

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try emerica g6 shoes, special insoles never helped my knee ache. but switching shoes to g6 did help, no more pain.

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https://emerica.com/collections/accessories/products/g6-insole-green

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How much do they lift your heel up in the shoe compared to say, a nike zoom insole or an fp gamechanger? I'm interested but I can't deal with my foot sitting too high in the shoe as it leaves me pretty prone to ankle rolls. What is the arch support is similar to? Thanks!

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Man, insoles are expensive (not just these) close to the cost of another pair of shoes! @EmericaTM are these the same insoles in the Spanky release?

Haha you happened to check these today of all days as today is our April fools day sale (buy an accessory and get a free pair of shoes).

To answer your question, the Spanky's have the pour-in G6 which is a foam midsole that doesn't come out. There is a thinner non-G6 insole that sits above the pour-in G6. The G6 insoles in the link above is the same insole that comes in all the vulc shoes such as the Dickson, Wino slip-on, etc.

[Xen]

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try emerica g6 shoes, special insoles never helped my knee ache. but switching shoes to g6 did help, no more pain.

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https://emerica.com/collections/accessories/products/g6-insole-green

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How much do they lift your heel up in the shoe compared to say, a nike zoom insole or an fp gamechanger? I'm interested but I can't deal with my foot sitting too high in the shoe as it leaves me pretty prone to ankle rolls. What is the arch support is similar to? Thanks!

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Man, insoles are expensive (not just these) close to the cost of another pair of shoes! @EmericaTM are these the same insoles in the Spanky release?

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Haha you happened to check these today of all days as today is our April fools day sale (buy an accessory and get a free pair of shoes).

To answer your question, the Spanky's have the pour-in G6 which is a foam midsole that doesn't come out. There is a thinner non-G6 insole that sits above the pour-in G6. The G6 insoles in the link above is the same insole that comes in all the vulc shoes such as the Dickson, Wino slip-on, etc.

@EmericaTM Hah! Figures

Thanks for the info!

FYI I tried to add the insoles to the cart, which it did, but there was no where to select a free pair of shoes ot specify size, etc. What am I missing?

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try emerica g6 shoes, special insoles never helped my knee ache. but switching shoes to g6 did help, no more pain.

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https://emerica.com/collections/accessories/products/g6-insole-green

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How much do they lift your heel up in the shoe compared to say, a nike zoom insole or an fp gamechanger? I'm interested but I can't deal with my foot sitting too high in the shoe as it leaves me pretty prone to ankle rolls. What is the arch support is similar to? Thanks!

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Man, insoles are expensive (not just these) close to the cost of another pair of shoes! @EmericaTM are these the same insoles in the Spanky release?

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Haha you happened to check these today of all days as today is our April fools day sale (buy an accessory and get a free pair of shoes).

To answer your question, the Spanky's have the pour-in G6 which is a foam midsole that doesn't come out. There is a thinner non-G6 insole that sits above the pour-in G6. The G6 insoles in the link above is the same insole that comes in all the vulc shoes such as the Dickson, Wino slip-on, etc.

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@EmericaTM Hah! Figures

Thanks for the info!

FYI I tried to add the insoles to the cart, which it did, but there was no where to select a free pair of shoes ot specify size, etc. What am I missing?

So it's any sale shoe comes free. Add a pair of sales shoes to the cart as well as whichever accessory you'd like and it should automatically change the price for you. Please let me know if this works or if you have any other issues.

https://emerica.com/collections/sale

[LebowskisRug]

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Where on earth did you read that? His mentors were coaches that had gyms in my area when I was in college and are really well known in their respective performance niches. That group of individuals has probably 400+ gold medals amongst their athletes and IIRC he lives a pretty modest life and mostly blew up because of YouTube, but remains pretty respected among basketball and track coaches.

I quickly googled and there isn’t much to link him to Scientology other than someone with the same name completing courses and a gym owner in Clearwater being noted in some kooky mag.

Oddly tho he always seems really out of breath.

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I read it on Slap of course, where else?

Then I checked out this reddit thread

from r/Kneesovertoes

Not concrete, plausible perhaps

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Ok, maybe more than just plausible

https://www.freedommag.org/magazine/florida/201910-clearwater-citizen/ben-patrick.html

https://www.scientology.org/videos/meet-a-scientologist/region/north-america/~mass-ben-patrik.html

Damn, the images didn't render on mobile but those are pretty damning. He seems like a total weirdo honestly and is oddly always out of breath.

[boogs]

for the people that hate the game changers did you put them in the oven before you put them in your shoes?

[LebowskisRug]

Yes

[Esquivel]

I am looking to buy another pair of NB 440. I have been having ankle issues the last couple of years, and I want to add insoles to make the shoe more cushioned. Any suggestions for good insoles that fit without raising the foot (especially the toe portion) too much? I want that portion to remain cupped from the outsole, to maintain normal shoe wear. Thanks in advance.

[Frank and Fred]

I don't know if it's a good idea to stack insoles, especially with ankle issues. Surely that would just de-stablize things?

You might want to pull the stock one out and go with a Remind Medic.

[JANUS]

I like green superfeet in my 440s. I take out the stock insole and put in the mean green. It doesn’t raise my toes too much and helps keep my arch up and my ankle straight. But everybody’s different, your experience may differ.

[Lashes2ashes]

I have been using the fp insoles you stick in the oven, I was 150 pounds over weight for like fifteen years so I have fallen arches, those are the only insoles that have enough arch support for me with out pushing on them. All other insoles after five minutes of skating I can barely walk back out of the park.

[MysticalTypeExperience]

I'm reusing the insoles that came stock on two pairs of Maranas I had because they're so fucking good.

[Xen]

I am looking to buy another pair of NB 440. I have been having ankle issues the last couple of years, and I want to add insoles to make the shoe more cushioned. Any suggestions for good insoles that fit without raising the foot (especially the toe portion) too much? I want that portion to remain cupped from the outsole, to maintain normal shoe wear. Thanks in advance.

I threw in 3mm Footprint Gamechangers (3mm are hard to find); they work great and didn't raise heel or toe like the regular 6-7mm ones did (they were unusable in the 440s).

My knees love these things.

[Gray Imp Sausage Metal]

I like green superfeet in my 440s. I take out the stock insole and put in the mean green. It doesn’t raise my toes too much and helps keep my arch up and my ankle straight. But everybody’s different, your experience may differ.

got a pair of super feet on ice actually, how they treating you?

[Esquivel]

Thanks guys. Of course I am planning to remove the stock insole, and want something that will cushion the impact when I walk/skate. My ankle is not rolled or anything, there is some bone bruising just above the cartillage of the leg bone where it connects to the foot and that gives me mad pain at random times. I guess I will try the remind medic or the microwaveable fp as the 3mm fp sounds like not much change compared to the stock.

[munchbox]

i do not recommend the microwavable footprints at all
plantar fasciitis wasnt a problem until those insoles
the moldable foam gets way too hard imo
threw those out, switched to kingfoam elites and recovered

[Sedition]

Maybe it's just me, but FP/kingfoam insoles do NOT seem to be the same quality they used to be. They seem much harder/stiffer these days (I used the elites). Once, they were amazing, but now....Vans insoles are better than them, IMHO.