Gear madness support thread

[Slave IV]

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Maybe I’ll try some 54mm Classics and hope they are perfect when worn down to 52mm.

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Or...just get...Radials.

Haha, yeah but that would be too easy to cure the madness. Here is another overlay that compares the CF to Classics and Radials and I threw in Bones V4 too.

I keep going back and forth but Radials probably are the answer.

[Sedition]

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Maybe I’ll try some 54mm Classics and hope they are perfect when worn down to 52mm.

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Or...just get...Radials.

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Haha, yeah but that would be too easy to cure the madness. Here is another overlay that compares the CF to Classics and Radials and I threw in Bones V4 too.

I keep going back and forth but Radials probably are the answer.

Wheels look nice in photos. But like a skateboard, you have to ride it to know.

[Slave IV]

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Maybe I’ll try some 54mm Classics and hope they are perfect when worn down to 52mm.

[close]

Or...just get...Radials.

[close]

Haha, yeah but that would be too easy to cure the madness. Here is another overlay that compares the CF to Classics and Radials and I threw in Bones V4 too.

I keep going back and forth but Radials probably are the answer.

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Wheels look nice in photos. But like a skateboard, you have to ride it to know.

Yeah, forget everything, just buy every wheel. Only way to be sure. 

[Mbrimson88]

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I've been pulled towards Thunder & Venture here and there. Tried both on separate occasions. Ventures sucked,  but maybe they get better with some tuning? Thunders felt manageable, but like Ventures, would not turn comfortably.

However, I've been trying to get both to feel like Indy's turn-wise, and that's either my main flaw or my key to making them work.

Gonna try softer bushings in both sets on my 2 spare setups. The loose kit bushings are what I'm trying in the Ventures. For the Thunder, I gotta research what's softer than the stock on 151 cast

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I got Thunders to feel and turn great by sanding the rebuild kit blue top bushing down 1mm. I wish I found a way to make my Venture Hi's to feel similar. The stock bushings felt good and turny initially, but after a month or two of skating the turn started to decline and I haven't felt like skating the board with Venture's after having a hard time carving into curb tricks etc. Bought a set of Ace hards but it's such a hassle to sand 'em down multiple mm's to fit Venture's that I only have one trucks bushings ready. Shop was out or hard low's....

I have found if I need just a little bit off, sanding is good, but if I need a bit more than that off, then cutting them works best - usually just a simple kitchen steak or sharp enough knife, keeping the bushings on a baseplate or even just sitting on a kingpin, cut gently a little, rotate the bushing, cut gently again and so on til it has scored it right the way round and then cut a little deeper and so on. 

Trying various knife options, various positions, but now I think having a loose kingpin that I put almost a set of bushings on with the bushing that is to be cut right at the end and it seems to work a treat.  If it is a bit uneven, I can then sand it down a touch more on griptape or the grinder, but then I also have the bit I cut off to reuse if needed as well.

The main thing is not going too hard with it and maybe feeling it out a little first, but I think I will post pics and video of this new process that seems like it works way better than cutting while on a board.

[Mbrimson88]

Haha, yeah but that would be too easy to cure the madness. Here is another overlay that compares the CF to Classics and Radials and I threw in Bones V4 too.

I keep going back and forth but Radials probably are the answer.

So this new one I think is really good to see those three coloured lines to the left, offset as you said last time, so I think it would be worth posting in both the Wheels thread and the Spitfire Formula Four threads, because people would be keen to see them, as well as have them in all three of those threads.

Sure it is mostly the same people looking at all the different threads, but this is worth reposting there too.

Thanks for the effort in doing this - pretty cool to see, which as @Sedition had said, is also how I know they feel from having all three of those options in regular rotation.

[Slave IV]

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Haha, yeah but that would be too easy to cure the madness. Here is another overlay that compares the CF to Classics and Radials and I threw in Bones V4 too.

I keep going back and forth but Radials probably are the answer.

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So this new one I think is really good to see those three coloured lines to the left, offset as you said last time, so I think it would be worth posting in both the Wheels thread and the Spitfire Formula Four threads, because people would be keen to see them, as well as have them in all three of those threads.

Sure it is mostly the same people looking at all the different threads, but this is worth reposting there too.

Thanks for the effort in doing this - pretty cool to see, which as @Sedition had said, is also how I know they feel from having all three of those options in regular rotation.

No problem! Yeah, I'll post it in the other threads too if people think it's helpful. It definitely helps me visualy evaluate what I'm riding and what else to look for.

[MMongrel]

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I've been pulled towards Thunder & Venture here and there. Tried both on separate occasions. Ventures sucked,  but maybe they get better with some tuning? Thunders felt manageable, but like Ventures, would not turn comfortably.

However, I've been trying to get both to feel like Indy's turn-wise, and that's either my main flaw or my key to making them work.

Gonna try softer bushings in both sets on my 2 spare setups. The loose kit bushings are what I'm trying in the Ventures. For the Thunder, I gotta research what's softer than the stock on 151 cast

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I got Thunders to feel and turn great by sanding the rebuild kit blue top bushing down 1mm. I wish I found a way to make my Venture Hi's to feel similar. The stock bushings felt good and turny initially, but after a month or two of skating the turn started to decline and I haven't felt like skating the board with Venture's after having a hard time carving into curb tricks etc. Bought a set of Ace hards but it's such a hassle to sand 'em down multiple mm's to fit Venture's that I only have one trucks bushings ready. Shop was out or hard low's....

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I have found if I need just a little bit off, sanding is good, but if I need a bit more than that off, then cutting them works best - usually just a simple kitchen steak or sharp enough knife, keeping the bushings on a baseplate or even just sitting on a kingpin, cut gently a little, rotate the bushing, cut gently again and so on til it has scored it right the way round and then cut a little deeper and so on. 

Trying various knife options, various positions, but now I think having a loose kingpin that I put almost a set of bushings on with the bushing that is to be cut right at the end and it seems to work a treat.  If it is a bit uneven, I can then sand it down a touch more on griptape or the grinder, but then I also have the bit I cut off to reuse if needed as well.

The main thing is not going too hard with it and maybe feeling it out a little first, but I think I will post pics and video of this new process that seems like it works way better than cutting while on a board.

I've been thinking if it would be possible to make a jig where the bushing would sit firmly and you could cut or sand it to preference. But I've yet to come up with a solution. It would be cool to be able to adjust the height too. It seems that only madness I have is bushing DIY madness haha.

I only have cutters at work but maybe I'll try cutting the upper bushing today. at least get it into the ball park and sand the rest.

[DarkPools]

I think i saw someone mention using Indy aftermarket bushings in Thunders a few posts back on here! Is that worth trying in that they're compatible? Or should I look for Thunder replacement kit ones for better compatibility?

[Mbrimson88]

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I've been pulled towards Thunder & Venture here and there. Tried both on separate occasions. Ventures sucked,  but maybe they get better with some tuning? Thunders felt manageable, but like Ventures, would not turn comfortably.

However, I've been trying to get both to feel like Indy's turn-wise, and that's either my main flaw or my key to making them work.

Gonna try softer bushings in both sets on my 2 spare setups. The loose kit bushings are what I'm trying in the Ventures. For the Thunder, I gotta research what's softer than the stock on 151 cast

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I got Thunders to feel and turn great by sanding the rebuild kit blue top bushing down 1mm. I wish I found a way to make my Venture Hi's to feel similar. The stock bushings felt good and turny initially, but after a month or two of skating the turn started to decline and I haven't felt like skating the board with Venture's after having a hard time carving into curb tricks etc. Bought a set of Ace hards but it's such a hassle to sand 'em down multiple mm's to fit Venture's that I only have one trucks bushings ready. Shop was out or hard low's....

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I have found if I need just a little bit off, sanding is good, but if I need a bit more than that off, then cutting them works best - usually just a simple kitchen steak or sharp enough knife, keeping the bushings on a baseplate or even just sitting on a kingpin, cut gently a little, rotate the bushing, cut gently again and so on til it has scored it right the way round and then cut a little deeper and so on. 

Trying various knife options, various positions, but now I think having a loose kingpin that I put almost a set of bushings on with the bushing that is to be cut right at the end and it seems to work a treat.  If it is a bit uneven, I can then sand it down a touch more on griptape or the grinder, but then I also have the bit I cut off to reuse if needed as well.

The main thing is not going too hard with it and maybe feeling it out a little first, but I think I will post pics and video of this new process that seems like it works way better than cutting while on a board.

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I've been thinking if it would be possible to make a jig where the bushing would sit firmly and you could cut or sand it to preference. But I've yet to come up with a solution. It would be cool to be able to adjust the height too. It seems that only madness I have is bushing DIY madness haha.

I only have cutters at work but maybe I'll try cutting the upper bushing today. at least get it into the ball park and sand the rest.

The main thing I found is I need to have the middle secured to hold the bushing in place, but not holding the part I am trying to cut, as it is squashed too much and I can't get the knife in easily enough.  Placing the bushing on a kingpin or something similar means I can roll it along the round edge on the bench top / cutting board while getting the knife into the top part of it.  I like to use a serrated edge like a steak knife, more so than a smooth blade like a box cutter or similar tool.

I meant to take some pics and video today, but got busy with other things, but I will definitely get something together soon enough, as it is bugging me how easy this process can be, compared to how I used to cut bushings before.

[Mbrimson88]

I think i saw someone mention using Indy aftermarket bushings in Thunders a few posts back on here! Is that worth trying in that they're compatible? Or should I look for Thunder replacement kit ones for better compatibility?

Honestly I was surprised that they will actually fit fairly well throughout most of the main brands, at least Thunder / Venture and Indy all did well enough and skate quite ok, without having to modify anything at all.

Maybe it is more just in the mind, people thinking or saying Thunder bushings should be used in Thunder trucks, Indy bushings in Indy trucks, etc, but they definitely work well, the Indy Conical shape, which do come in red 88, orange 90, blue 92 and black 94 duro options did fit in Thunder trucks well enough.

[Obijuan91]

I think i saw someone mention using Indy aftermarket bushings in Thunders a few posts back on here! Is that worth trying in that they're compatible? Or should I look for Thunder replacement kit ones for better compatibility?

The Indy conicals are same height. The 88s flush without shaving anything of the top feel soo good so far.I don’t think I have em fully broken in yet so see if they get better.  Stable in the middle but turn when you want them too. Not overly loose. Kind of like the stock thunders but like smoother. I’d imagine the 90a conicals would feel more like a 92a in thunder bushings. Mainly went the Indy bushing route so I wouldn’t have to deal with the seasonal madness. I liked the stock thunder ones that’s why I went with the 88s, felt they’d be the most similar.

[DarkPools]

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I think i saw someone mention using Indy aftermarket bushings in Thunders a few posts back on here! Is that worth trying in that they're compatible? Or should I look for Thunder replacement kit ones for better compatibility?

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The Indy conicals are same height. The 88s flush without shaving anything of the top feel soo good so far.I don’t think I have em fully broken in yet so see if they get better.  Stable in the middle but turn when you want them too. Not overly loose. Kind of like the stock thunders but like smoother. I’d imagine the 90a conicals would feel more like a 92a in thunder bushings. Mainly went the Indy bushing route so I wouldn’t have to deal with the seasonal madness. I liked the stock thunder ones that’s why I went with the 88s, felt they’d be the most similar.

This is extremely helpful info, thank you! I do like the stock thunder 151 bushings BUT I want a little more turn from them. I have the nut flush on them currently. A mix of 88a - 94a aftermarket conicals sits in my skate gear box and thankfully I can experiment with those

@Mbrimson88 excellent! I know some people like to be brand/part purists. Completely understandable and I do the same at times, actually. Knowing they'll still work and not self destruct like some "cross contamination" of brand parts has for others is good news

[Obijuan91]

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I think i saw someone mention using Indy aftermarket bushings in Thunders a few posts back on here! Is that worth trying in that they're compatible? Or should I look for Thunder replacement kit ones for better compatibility?

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The Indy conicals are same height. The 88s flush without shaving anything of the top feel soo good so far.I don’t think I have em fully broken in yet so see if they get better.  Stable in the middle but turn when you want them too. Not overly loose. Kind of like the stock thunders but like smoother. I’d imagine the 90a conicals would feel more like a 92a in thunder bushings. Mainly went the Indy bushing route so I wouldn’t have to deal with the seasonal madness. I liked the stock thunder ones that’s why I went with the 88s, felt they’d be the most similar.

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This is extremely helpful info, thank you! I do like the stock thunder 151 bushings BUT I want a little more turn from them. I have the nut flush on them currently. A mix of 88a - 94a aftermarket conicals sits in my skate gear box and thankfully I can experiment with those

@Mbrimson88 excellent! I know some people like to be brand/part purists. Completely understandable and I do the same at times, actually. Knowing they'll still work and not self destruct like some "cross contamination" of brand parts has for others is good news

The thunder top washer is also low key ass and digs in to the truck. If you got the Indy conical washers I’d switch to those too

[DarkPools]

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I think i saw someone mention using Indy aftermarket bushings in Thunders a few posts back on here! Is that worth trying in that they're compatible? Or should I look for Thunder replacement kit ones for better compatibility?

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The Indy conicals are same height. The 88s flush without shaving anything of the top feel soo good so far.I don’t think I have em fully broken in yet so see if they get better.  Stable in the middle but turn when you want them too. Not overly loose. Kind of like the stock thunders but like smoother. I’d imagine the 90a conicals would feel more like a 92a in thunder bushings. Mainly went the Indy bushing route so I wouldn’t have to deal with the seasonal madness. I liked the stock thunder ones that’s why I went with the 88s, felt they’d be the most similar.

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This is extremely helpful info, thank you! I do like the stock thunder 151 bushings BUT I want a little more turn from them. I have the nut flush on them currently. A mix of 88a - 94a aftermarket conicals sits in my skate gear box and thankfully I can experiment with those

@Mbrimson88 excellent! I know some people like to be brand/part purists. Completely understandable and I do the same at times, actually. Knowing they'll still work and not self destruct like some "cross contamination" of brand parts has for others is good news

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The thunder top washer is also low key ass and digs in to the truck. If you got the Indy conical washers I’d switch to those too

Good looks! I do have extra of those and will be keen on trying that as well!

[FatGuy92]

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I think i saw someone mention using Indy aftermarket bushings in Thunders a few posts back on here! Is that worth trying in that they're compatible? Or should I look for Thunder replacement kit ones for better compatibility?

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The Indy conicals are same height. The 88s flush without shaving anything of the top feel soo good so far.I don’t think I have em fully broken in yet so see if they get better.  Stable in the middle but turn when you want them too. Not overly loose. Kind of like the stock thunders but like smoother. I’d imagine the 90a conicals would feel more like a 92a in thunder bushings. Mainly went the Indy bushing route so I wouldn’t have to deal with the seasonal madness. I liked the stock thunder ones that’s why I went with the 88s, felt they’d be the most similar.

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This is extremely helpful info, thank you! I do like the stock thunder 151 bushings BUT I want a little more turn from them. I have the nut flush on them currently. A mix of 88a - 94a aftermarket conicals sits in my skate gear box and thankfully I can experiment with those

@Mbrimson88 excellent! I know some people like to be brand/part purists. Completely understandable and I do the same at times, actually. Knowing they'll still work and not self destruct like some "cross contamination" of brand parts has for others is good news

A couple people here recommended Ace low bushings for Thunders, so I setup Ace low hard tops and low standard bottoms. I haven’t had a lot of time to skate lately, but so far they feel good. IIRC Tom Asta made a setup video awhile back and he was skating Ace bushings with Thunders too and liked it

[DarkPools]

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I think i saw someone mention using Indy aftermarket bushings in Thunders a few posts back on here! Is that worth trying in that they're compatible? Or should I look for Thunder replacement kit ones for better compatibility?

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The Indy conicals are same height. The 88s flush without shaving anything of the top feel soo good so far.I don’t think I have em fully broken in yet so see if they get better.  Stable in the middle but turn when you want them too. Not overly loose. Kind of like the stock thunders but like smoother. I’d imagine the 90a conicals would feel more like a 92a in thunder bushings. Mainly went the Indy bushing route so I wouldn’t have to deal with the seasonal madness. I liked the stock thunder ones that’s why I went with the 88s, felt they’d be the most similar.

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This is extremely helpful info, thank you! I do like the stock thunder 151 bushings BUT I want a little more turn from them. I have the nut flush on them currently. A mix of 88a - 94a aftermarket conicals sits in my skate gear box and thankfully I can experiment with those

@Mbrimson88 excellent! I know some people like to be brand/part purists. Completely understandable and I do the same at times, actually. Knowing they'll still work and not self destruct like some "cross contamination" of brand parts has for others is good news

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A couple people here recommended Ace low bushings for Thunders, so I setup Ace low hard tops and low standard bottoms. I haven’t had a lot of time to skate lately, but so far they feel good. IIRC Tom Asta made a setup video awhile back and he was skating Ace bushings with Thunders too and liked it

That's good info, too! I have one set of Aces and they're set up on a Zip Zinger, so those bushings are spoken for ATM, but I could be persuaded to tinker more 🤣

[Mbrimson88]

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I've been pulled towards Thunder & Venture here and there. Tried both on separate occasions. Ventures sucked,  but maybe they get better with some tuning? Thunders felt manageable, but like Ventures, would not turn comfortably.

However, I've been trying to get both to feel like Indy's turn-wise, and that's either my main flaw or my key to making them work.

Gonna try softer bushings in both sets on my 2 spare setups. The loose kit bushings are what I'm trying in the Ventures. For the Thunder, I gotta research what's softer than the stock on 151 cast

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I got Thunders to feel and turn great by sanding the rebuild kit blue top bushing down 1mm. I wish I found a way to make my Venture Hi's to feel similar. The stock bushings felt good and turny initially, but after a month or two of skating the turn started to decline and I haven't felt like skating the board with Venture's after having a hard time carving into curb tricks etc. Bought a set of Ace hards but it's such a hassle to sand 'em down multiple mm's to fit Venture's that I only have one trucks bushings ready. Shop was out or hard low's....

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I have found if I need just a little bit off, sanding is good, but if I need a bit more than that off, then cutting them works best - usually just a simple kitchen steak or sharp enough knife, keeping the bushings on a baseplate or even just sitting on a kingpin, cut gently a little, rotate the bushing, cut gently again and so on til it has scored it right the way round and then cut a little deeper and so on. 

Trying various knife options, various positions, but now I think having a loose kingpin that I put almost a set of bushings on with the bushing that is to be cut right at the end and it seems to work a treat.  If it is a bit uneven, I can then sand it down a touch more on griptape or the grinder, but then I also have the bit I cut off to reuse if needed as well.

The main thing is not going too hard with it and maybe feeling it out a little first, but I think I will post pics and video of this new process that seems like it works way better than cutting while on a board.

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I've been thinking if it would be possible to make a jig where the bushing would sit firmly and you could cut or sand it to preference. But I've yet to come up with a solution. It would be cool to be able to adjust the height too. It seems that only madness I have is bushing DIY madness haha.

I only have cutters at work but maybe I'll try cutting the upper bushing today. at least get it into the ball park and sand the rest.

I finally got a minute to do a few things, so here is my second version of cutting bushings.

Video of the process in the last frame.


https://www.instagram.com/mbrimson88/p/DOyFF4Pk7B-/

[Slave IV]

Would never have thought of doing something like this. I’d probably just try to find the different size bushings but this is very clever in not needing anything else to do. As for cutting, I wonder if you can ask your local butcher to help you out with their deli cutter. They can dial it in to the exact thickness and slice it lit in a fraction of a second perfectly.

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we have a wide board short wb movement thread.
any ideas on the skinny boards long wb?

i’m in a weird place, and this comes from more a desire to try something way off from what i generally use. there is a smidge of logic: ive gone on and on about how i hav e enjoyed the griffin gass shape (8.5x14.44x32). i think its due to the tail being the same as the 7.75 tail, which is approximately the type of board i had my best years on.
following all of that….and continuing with what someone on here said quite awhile back, paraphrased: ‘wb isn’t important, it’s just the left overs after nose/tail and length’.
i like 8 ish boards, or boards i can skate with 8 trucks, which are a goal i
’m working my way back down towards.

[Sedition]

we have a wide board short wb movement thread.
any ideas on the skinny boards long wb?

i’m in a weird place, and this comes from more a desire to try something way off from what i generally use. there is a smidge of logic: ive gone on and on about how i hav e enjoyed the griffin gass shape (8.5x14.44x32). i think its due to the tail being the same as the 7.75 tail, which is approximately the type of board i had my best years on.
following all of that….and continuing with what someone on here said quite awhile back, paraphrased: ‘wb isn’t important, it’s just the left overs after nose/tail and length’.
i like 8 ish boards, or boards i can skate with 8 trucks, which are a goal i
’m working my way back down towards.

Heh. I am on the other end of the spectrum; Wheelbase is one of the most important dimensions to me.

[Plan9Customs]

Would never have thought of doing something like this. I’d probably just try to find the different size bushings but this is very clever in not needing anything else to do. As for cutting, I wonder if you can ask your local butcher to help you out with their deli cutter. They can dial it in to the exact thickness and slice it lit in a fraction of a second perfectly.

Good thought but I seriously doubt anyone in the food service industry would do that. Health codes and such.
Although RFK is in charge so maybe it’s a bit more lax now.

[swongolianbbq]

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we have a wide board short wb movement thread.
any ideas on the skinny boards long wb?

i’m in a weird place, and this comes from more a desire to try something way off from what i generally use. there is a smidge of logic: ive gone on and on about how i hav e enjoyed the griffin gass shape (8.5x14.44x32). i think its due to the tail being the same as the 7.75 tail, which is approximately the type of board i had my best years on.
following all of that….and continuing with what someone on here said quite awhile back, paraphrased: ‘wb isn’t important, it’s just the left overs after nose/tail and length’.
i like 8 ish boards, or boards i can skate with 8 trucks, which are a goal i
’m working my way back down towards.

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Heh. I am on the other end of the spectrum; Wheelbase is one of the most important dimensions to me.

Same. I used to just buy ~8.5s, whatever it was, 8.3, 8.4, 8.5, 8.6. with all the rando extra numbers. I skated 146s and 149s. whatever the shop had. Antihero, ATM, baker, consolidated, habitat, black label, whatever.

I can skate a shaped 9.4 as long as it's 14.25 wb

When I got into my late 20s, into 30s I realized some of the boards I was skating were way fucking longer than the ones I liked. I used to have times where I felt like I was skating like shit, hated boards, wasn't exactly sure why. It's cause the WB was too long. I felt dumb as hell.  Around ~14 to ~14.25 is my jam. I'm 5'8. When I met Spanky and Jerry, they're like, less than that, and crush it on what I presume are ~14.25" wb boards, though I know they can get whatever they want pressed. I've seen clips of Jerry on antihero eagles and stuff. I was watching old Tom Penny footage. Seeing how he rides comfortably around the bolts. Googling how tall he is. Finding no results. Baggy pants hiding the cowboy Leo Romero stance. I had less control over long boards cause I didn't want to stand with my feet so far apart. I like how penny kept 149s on his board for at least a year after 139s came out. There's contest footage of him in i wanna say 94 hot rodding so hard and still killing it. Jealous of ppl with long legs cause they can choose what they like, where short-ass leg mfs like myself have to accept the options. I don't even want to start skating the real truefits and stuff cause I don't want to get used to something and have it eventually taken away, thus, I just ride blue eagles and baker b16s

lurked here since about 2008, but at that time the EMB was my main shit, I had like 20,000 posts or some shit, I used to go on and on with the homies Jawn, Meatbag, etc drunk as a 19 year old. We were more interested in making each other laugh than breaking down the nitty gritty of skate equipment.

When my search engine results in my mid 20s continually led me to slap, I eventually made an account. I think it was based off the wheelbase thing. Wheelbase is like, the reason I have an account.

I'm insane

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we have a wide board short wb movement thread.
any ideas on the skinny boards long wb?

i’m in a weird place, and this comes from more a desire to try something way off from what i generally use. there is a smidge of logic: ive gone on and on about how i hav e enjoyed the griffin gass shape (8.5x14.44x32). i think its due to the tail being the same as the 7.75 tail, which is approximately the type of board i had my best years on.
following all of that….and continuing with what someone on here said quite awhile back, paraphrased: ‘wb isn’t important, it’s just the left overs after nose/tail and length’.
i like 8 ish boards, or boards i can skate with 8 trucks, which are a goal i
’m working my way back down towards.

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Heh. I am on the other end of the spectrum; Wheelbase is one of the most important dimensions to me.

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Same. I used to just buy ~8.5s, whatever it was, 8.3, 8.4, 8.5, 8.6. with all the rando extra numbers. I skated 146s and 149s. whatever the shop had. Antihero, ATM, baker, consolidated, habitat, black label, whatever.

I can skate a shaped 9.4 as long as it's 14.25 wb

When I got into my late 20s, into 30s I realized some of the boards I was skating were way fucking longer than the ones I liked. I used to have times where I felt like I was skating like shit, hated boards, wasn't exactly sure why. It's cause the WB was too long. I felt dumb as hell.  Around ~14 to ~14.25 is my jam. I'm 5'8. When I met Spanky and Jerry, they're like, less than that, and crush it on what I presume are ~14.25" wb boards, though I know they can get whatever they want pressed. I've seen clips of Jerry on antihero eagles and stuff. I was watching old Tom Penny footage. Seeing how he rides comfortably around the bolts. Googling how tall he is. Finding no results. Baggy pants hiding the cowboy Leo Romero stance. I had less control over long boards cause I didn't want to stand with my feet so far apart. I like how penny kept 149s on his board for at least a year after 139s came out. There's contest footage of him in i wanna say 94 hot rodding so hard and still killing it. Jealous of ppl with long legs cause they can choose what they like, where short-ass leg mfs like myself have to accept the options. I don't even want to start skating the real truefits and stuff cause I don't want to get used to something and have it eventually taken away, thus, I just ride blue eagles and baker b16s

lurked here since about 2008, but at that time the EMB was my main shit, I had like 20,000 posts or some shit, I used to go on and on with the homies Jawn, Meatbag, etc drunk as a 19 year old. We were more interested in making each other laugh than breaking down the nitty gritty of skate equipment.

When my search engine results in my mid 20s continually led me to slap, I eventually made an account. I think it was based off the wheelbase thing. Wheelbase is like, the reason I have an account.

I'm insane

oh i’m not mentally well.

also, not positive, but every certain that tom was skating 139s, on a sub 8 board.
149s were not real common, imo.

[Mbrimson88]

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we have a wide board short wb movement thread.
any ideas on the skinny boards long wb?

i’m in a weird place, and this comes from more a desire to try something way off from what i generally use. there is a smidge of logic: ive gone on and on about how i hav e enjoyed the griffin gass shape (8.5x14.44x32). i think its due to the tail being the same as the 7.75 tail, which is approximately the type of board i had my best years on.
following all of that….and continuing with what someone on here said quite awhile back, paraphrased: ‘wb isn’t important, it’s just the left overs after nose/tail and length’.
i like 8 ish boards, or boards i can skate with 8 trucks, which are a goal i
’m working my way back down towards.

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Heh. I am on the other end of the spectrum; Wheelbase is one of the most important dimensions to me.

Wheelbase is definitely on my list of important things, but I also find that getting a board I can adjust is more important these days. 

That might sound silly, but this is how I do things - mainly being able to bring the tail in just a bit, so I can get a slightly longer tail with maybe starting with a slightly longer wheelbase, and a good / longer overall length of board, so something like that DLX 8.38 with 14.5 wb that becomes 14.3 or the DLX 8.75 with 14.62 wb becomes more a 14.5 with the minimally drilled in trucks.

The madness of experimenting with truck bolt holes has led me here, so I don't really want a V8 baseplate option with two sets of holes, which end up too far apart, but ovalling out the holes now seems to work so I can shift the baseplate a couple of mm and things just work so well now.

In this way I can move Indy and Thunder easily, often with something like grip tape stuck under the baseplate, but double sided tape or something similar might work well too, for people who didn't want to use grip tape.

This will be another one of those posts soon enough, but from doing this to a few trucks for the last month or so, everything still seems to be working well.


Seems wild to think of this even a year ago, but seeing a few options like those multi position Grindking baseplates and then trying it once to ending up here, I like having the option to move the baseplates even just a mm or two or totally up to the 6 mm and approximately 1/4" position, but that is almost too much for me mostly.

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I've been pulled towards Thunder & Venture here and there. Tried both on separate occasions. Ventures sucked,  but maybe they get better with some tuning? Thunders felt manageable, but like Ventures, would not turn comfortably.

However, I've been trying to get both to feel like Indy's turn-wise, and that's either my main flaw or my key to making them work.

Gonna try softer bushings in both sets on my 2 spare setups. The loose kit bushings are what I'm trying in the Ventures. For the Thunder, I gotta research what's softer than the stock on 151 cast

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I got Thunders to feel and turn great by sanding the rebuild kit blue top bushing down 1mm. I wish I found a way to make my Venture Hi's to feel similar. The stock bushings felt good and turny initially, but after a month or two of skating the turn started to decline and I haven't felt like skating the board with Venture's after having a hard time carving into curb tricks etc. Bought a set of Ace hards but it's such a hassle to sand 'em down multiple mm's to fit Venture's that I only have one trucks bushings ready. Shop was out or hard low's....

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I have found if I need just a little bit off, sanding is good, but if I need a bit more than that off, then cutting them works best - usually just a simple kitchen steak or sharp enough knife, keeping the bushings on a baseplate or even just sitting on a kingpin, cut gently a little, rotate the bushing, cut gently again and so on til it has scored it right the way round and then cut a little deeper and so on. 

Trying various knife options, various positions, but now I think having a loose kingpin that I put almost a set of bushings on with the bushing that is to be cut right at the end and it seems to work a treat.  If it is a bit uneven, I can then sand it down a touch more on griptape or the grinder, but then I also have the bit I cut off to reuse if needed as well.

The main thing is not going too hard with it and maybe feeling it out a little first, but I think I will post pics and video of this new process that seems like it works way better than cutting while on a board.

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I've been thinking if it would be possible to make a jig where the bushing would sit firmly and you could cut or sand it to preference. But I've yet to come up with a solution. It would be cool to be able to adjust the height too. It seems that only madness I have is bushing DIY madness haha.

I only have cutters at work but maybe I'll try cutting the upper bushing today. at least get it into the ball park and sand the rest.

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I finally got a minute to do a few things, so here is my second version of cutting bushings.

Video of the process in the last frame.


https://www.instagram.com/mbrimson88/p/DOyFF4Pk7B-/

Thanks for posting the vid! Using the kingpin like this is a serious life hack. Always wondered how to prevent squeezing the bushing too much while cutting. 

[Boog]

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we have a wide board short wb movement thread.
any ideas on the skinny boards long wb?

i’m in a weird place, and this comes from more a desire to try something way off from what i generally use. there is a smidge of logic: ive gone on and on about how i hav e enjoyed the griffin gass shape (8.5x14.44x32). i think its due to the tail being the same as the 7.75 tail, which is approximately the type of board i had my best years on.
following all of that….and continuing with what someone on here said quite awhile back, paraphrased: ‘wb isn’t important, it’s just the left overs after nose/tail and length’.
i like 8 ish boards, or boards i can skate with 8 trucks, which are a goal i
’m working my way back down towards.

[close]

Heh. I am on the other end of the spectrum; Wheelbase is one of the most important dimensions to me.

[close]

Same. I used to just buy ~8.5s, whatever it was, 8.3, 8.4, 8.5, 8.6. with all the rando extra numbers. I skated 146s and 149s. whatever the shop had. Antihero, ATM, baker, consolidated, habitat, black label, whatever.

I can skate a shaped 9.4 as long as it's 14.25 wb

When I got into my late 20s, into 30s I realized some of the boards I was skating were way fucking longer than the ones I liked. I used to have times where I felt like I was skating like shit, hated boards, wasn't exactly sure why. It's cause the WB was too long. I felt dumb as hell.  Around ~14 to ~14.25 is my jam. I'm 5'8. When I met Spanky and Jerry, they're like, less than that, and crush it on what I presume are ~14.25" wb boards, though I know they can get whatever they want pressed. I've seen clips of Jerry on antihero eagles and stuff. I was watching old Tom Penny footage. Seeing how he rides comfortably around the bolts. Googling how tall he is. Finding no results. Baggy pants hiding the cowboy Leo Romero stance. I had less control over long boards cause I didn't want to stand with my feet so far apart. I like how penny kept 149s on his board for at least a year after 139s came out. There's contest footage of him in i wanna say 94 hot rodding so hard and still killing it. Jealous of ppl with long legs cause they can choose what they like, where short-ass leg mfs like myself have to accept the options. I don't even want to start skating the real truefits and stuff cause I don't want to get used to something and have it eventually taken away, thus, I just ride blue eagles and baker b16s

lurked here since about 2008, but at that time the EMB was my main shit, I had like 20,000 posts or some shit, I used to go on and on with the homies Jawn, Meatbag, etc drunk as a 19 year old. We were more interested in making each other laugh than breaking down the nitty gritty of skate equipment.

When my search engine results in my mid 20s continually led me to slap, I eventually made an account. I think it was based off the wheelbase thing. Wheelbase is like, the reason I have an account.

I'm insane

Blue eagle is on the best shape known to man. Every time I try something different I always end up back on that shape. I'm 6 feet tall but most of that is in the torso so I can't really do anything over 32" without feeling like I'm snow boarding.

[MMongrel]

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I've been pulled towards Thunder & Venture here and there. Tried both on separate occasions. Ventures sucked,  but maybe they get better with some tuning? Thunders felt manageable, but like Ventures, would not turn comfortably.

However, I've been trying to get both to feel like Indy's turn-wise, and that's either my main flaw or my key to making them work.

Gonna try softer bushings in both sets on my 2 spare setups. The loose kit bushings are what I'm trying in the Ventures. For the Thunder, I gotta research what's softer than the stock on 151 cast

[close]

I got Thunders to feel and turn great by sanding the rebuild kit blue top bushing down 1mm. I wish I found a way to make my Venture Hi's to feel similar. The stock bushings felt good and turny initially, but after a month or two of skating the turn started to decline and I haven't felt like skating the board with Venture's after having a hard time carving into curb tricks etc. Bought a set of Ace hards but it's such a hassle to sand 'em down multiple mm's to fit Venture's that I only have one trucks bushings ready. Shop was out or hard low's....

[close]

I have found if I need just a little bit off, sanding is good, but if I need a bit more than that off, then cutting them works best - usually just a simple kitchen steak or sharp enough knife, keeping the bushings on a baseplate or even just sitting on a kingpin, cut gently a little, rotate the bushing, cut gently again and so on til it has scored it right the way round and then cut a little deeper and so on. 

Trying various knife options, various positions, but now I think having a loose kingpin that I put almost a set of bushings on with the bushing that is to be cut right at the end and it seems to work a treat.  If it is a bit uneven, I can then sand it down a touch more on griptape or the grinder, but then I also have the bit I cut off to reuse if needed as well.

The main thing is not going too hard with it and maybe feeling it out a little first, but I think I will post pics and video of this new process that seems like it works way better than cutting while on a board.

[close]

I've been thinking if it would be possible to make a jig where the bushing would sit firmly and you could cut or sand it to preference. But I've yet to come up with a solution. It would be cool to be able to adjust the height too. It seems that only madness I have is bushing DIY madness haha.

I only have cutters at work but maybe I'll try cutting the upper bushing today. at least get it into the ball park and sand the rest.

[close]

I finally got a minute to do a few things, so here is my second version of cutting bushings.

Video of the process in the last frame.


https://www.instagram.com/mbrimson88/p/DOyFF4Pk7B-/

Thank you for this! I'd never in a million years thought that serrated knife would work better but judging from the video it seems less prone to accidentally cut non diagonally. Will test this out for sure next time I need to cut bushings.

[Mbrimson88]

Thank you for this! I'd never in a million years thought that serrated knife would work better but judging from the video it seems less prone to accidentally cut non diagonally. Will test this out for sure next time I need to cut bushings.

Thanks for posting the vid! Using the kingpin like this is a serious life hack. Always wondered how to prevent squeezing the bushing too much while cutting. 

The most stupid thing with all of the different knife / blade options, is the way they cut and even which side I have to cut to, eg this bigger steak knife cuts more to the right, so when I held the bushing the other way it would cut into the middle of the bushing way too much, but holding it this way and not slicing quite as much, it cuts way more easily in a nice even strip.

The smaller knife with way smaller teeth cuts significantly better, but I was trying this one this time, maybe more just to see if I could get it right, but a much more fine serrated knife will cut way better overall I think.

Really just taking it nice and easy, but also as soon as it might look like it is not going how you want it, stop and reposition, as I have definitely made a mess of it one too many times, by rushing it and then just thinking I can keep cutting from the one spot, rather than keep it rotating as I cut.

I did another couple of sets of other bushings which turned out way better, but at least the white ones really showed up well for the pics, so that was the main thing there.

[Sedition]

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we have a wide board short wb movement thread.
any ideas on the skinny boards long wb?

i’m in a weird place, and this comes from more a desire to try something way off from what i generally use. there is a smidge of logic: ive gone on and on about how i hav e enjoyed the griffin gass shape (8.5x14.44x32). i think its due to the tail being the same as the 7.75 tail, which is approximately the type of board i had my best years on.
following all of that….and continuing with what someone on here said quite awhile back, paraphrased: ‘wb isn’t important, it’s just the left overs after nose/tail and length’.
i like 8 ish boards, or boards i can skate with 8 trucks, which are a goal i
’m working my way back down towards.

[close]

Heh. I am on the other end of the spectrum; Wheelbase is one of the most important dimensions to me.

[close]

Same. I used to just buy ~8.5s, whatever it was, 8.3, 8.4, 8.5, 8.6. with all the rando extra numbers. I skated 146s and 149s. whatever the shop had. Antihero, ATM, baker, consolidated, habitat, black label, whatever.

I can skate a shaped 9.4 as long as it's 14.25 wb

When I got into my late 20s, into 30s I realized some of the boards I was skating were way fucking longer than the ones I liked. I used to have times where I felt like I was skating like shit, hated boards, wasn't exactly sure why. It's cause the WB was too long. I felt dumb as hell.  Around ~14 to ~14.25 is my jam. I'm 5'8. When I met Spanky and Jerry, they're like, less than that, and crush it on what I presume are ~14.25" wb boards, though I know they can get whatever they want pressed. I've seen clips of Jerry on antihero eagles and stuff. I was watching old Tom Penny footage. Seeing how he rides comfortably around the bolts. Googling how tall he is. Finding no results. Baggy pants hiding the cowboy Leo Romero stance. I had less control over long boards cause I didn't want to stand with my feet so far apart. I like how penny kept 149s on his board for at least a year after 139s came out. There's contest footage of him in i wanna say 94 hot rodding so hard and still killing it. Jealous of ppl with long legs cause they can choose what they like, where short-ass leg mfs like myself have to accept the options. I don't even want to start skating the real truefits and stuff cause I don't want to get used to something and have it eventually taken away, thus, I just ride blue eagles and baker b16s

lurked here since about 2008, but at that time the EMB was my main shit, I had like 20,000 posts or some shit, I used to go on and on with the homies Jawn, Meatbag, etc drunk as a 19 year old. We were more interested in making each other laugh than breaking down the nitty gritty of skate equipment.

When my search engine results in my mid 20s continually led me to slap, I eventually made an account. I think it was based off the wheelbase thing. Wheelbase is like, the reason I have an account.

I'm insane

[close]

oh i’m not mentally well.

also, not positive, but every certain that tom was skating 139s, on a sub 8 board.
149s were not real common, imo.

I’m 5’11 with long legs, and at least for me, I absolutely can’t ride “whatever I want.” Short wb decks (that’s 14.25 and under) feel super cramped and unstable (because feet are not wide enough to create a stable base)…it’s like riding a Penny board.

[Slave IV]

A different kind of madness I have sometimes is gear that won't die. That is, I refuse to retire gear until it has reached a certain point and sometimes it takes a lot longer than I expected for that point to be reached.

Currently having this with my Blazer Mids. Sometime during the summer, I noticed the sole was worn paper thin around the big toe and ball area so I decided they would be retired once the sole is worn all the way through. I figured it wouldn't take long and want ti kill them asap because I'm tired of dealing with the lacing. I'm used to shoes that I can just take on and off easily by just tying or untying but these require loosening down several eyelets before they budge. Like everything else about them but that part is getting real old.

Problem is, summer is over and the sole still hasn't worn all the way through yet. I've gone through almost 4 decks and 2 sets of trucks and these shoes just won't die. It is kinda driving me mad, lol!