Gear madness support thread

[alph]

I'm looking for something similiar to crailtap g052 shape. 14" wheelbase, 8.25 and close to 32" in length. April has some and that Real easyrider looks good. Anything else?

[Hqjdncm]

We may be making some real progress here, guys. I’d like to issue a challenge to everyone active in this thread: Starting Saturday (or at your earliest convenience) we setup a board and stick to it for one month. No matter what. No changes at all unless something breaks or completely wears down. If at the end of the month you’ve identified aspects of your setup that you absolutely cannot stand, make changes as needed & we try this again. I’m very curious to see how it works out for not only myself but for you all as well. I can’t remember the last time I went a whole month without swapping something so I’m doing this regardless as a way to end this madness shit once and for all.

I have been doing this. I tend to not like switching gear out in a board I’m riding, but I think this does kinda add to my madness. I think it’s cause I still haven’t tried a lot of stuff (certain truck brands or models, certain wheel shapes and sizes, certain deck concaves, shapes and wb lengths) so the whole time I’m riding my board I’m thinking of how I want my next set up to feel but don’t know how to achieve it. I always at least hit axle before I change trucks and I always make sure a board is badly badly razor tailed before changing it out, but now i feel like I’m stuck, cause by the time I do switch my board and stuff out I’m used to it. And although I’m used to it doesn’t mean I love it. I recently set up 159 Indy’s and at first I loved being on them again, but now they feel heavy and don’t love the pop feel. The turn and grind is great but that’s not entirely worth it in my opinion
Anyways idk what my point is exactly but I’m pretty sure I’m gonna try and get lurpivs, an 8.75 baker, and maybe (just maybe) 56mm spitfire classic next

[swongolianbbq]

I'm looking for something similiar to crailtap g052 shape. 14" wheelbase, 8.25 and close to 32" in length. April has some and that Real easyrider looks good. Anything else?

Primitive has an 8.25 x 14

Also this might help

Here's some BBS boards available in 14" wb

•Real red oval 8.125(only 31.38" long)
•Real easy rider oval 8.25(long-ass kicks)
•Antihero basalt eagle 8.5" shorter
•Hardbody basalt 8.25" short
•Hardbody basalt 8.125"
•Hardbody basalt 8"
•Hardbody 8.25" short
•Dlx true fit 8.38"
•Limo 8.18"
•Gx1000 8"
•Sci-Fi 8.25" short
•BBS blank 8.25" short

There's some baker 8.25s listed as 14" wb and 31.6" length, and I know the OG 8.25 is 31.8 long so that's legit. Haven't seen one in person yet.

There's also some baker 8.475s I saw listed as 14" wb, but still with the same length as the OG, so, not sure if that's just a mistake/typo

I was really interested in 14" wheelbase and thought it was going to change my life a month or two ago. They're too hard to find, and a lot of the time it's just a board designed around 14.25 wb, just drilled in slightly. So same shape, just more "fingers of flat". Dlx true fit molds are dope tho. And a lotta folks like the BBS 8.25 shorts. I might try a 14" wb again in the future but just for fun

[alph]

^Thanks!

They're too hard to find, and a lot of the time it's just a board designed around 14.25 wb, just drilled in slightly. So same shape, just more "fingers of flat".

Yeah I completely agree. This is something you have to deal with if you ride ventures and like a certain type of board. I was considering redrilling my trucks in another topic.

[swongolianbbq]

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They're too hard to find, and a lot of the time it's just a board designed around 14.25 wb, just drilled in slightly. So same shape, just more "fingers of flat".

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Yeah I completely agree. This is something you have to deal with if you ride ventures and like a certain type of board. I was considering redrilling the trucks in another topic.

Ahh with the ventures that makes sense

Venture low 5.2s and 7.75 - 8.13 boards with 14" wb seems like a match made in heaven

Venture highs on the 8.25+ 14 wb boards should work quite well too especially if the kicks are longer to balance out the long truck wheelbase on ventures, so that makes a lotta sense to me. And if you like mellow kicks, or if you just like a steeper pop angle, venture highs are pretty dope. Most stable truck for sure. If someone was like, what's the best hill-bombing truck I'd say venture hi 5.8 or 6.1

I'm on Indy standards tho and they didn't jive as well as I wanted on the 8.25 shorts

If I recall correctly, Ben designed the 8.25 easy rider around venture highs

This one says it's 32" long, 8.25" wide, 14" wb on skate warehouse, not sure if accurate:

[alph]

Exactly

If I recall correctly, Ben designed the 8.25 easy rider around venture highs

Yeah at least he had some forged ventures set up when he was introducing the board

[swongolianbbq]

I think I'm pretty locked in with my setup madness situation

•Any BBS between 8.25" and 8.5", as long as it's 14.25" wb.

•Indy 144 standards, stock as fuck, maybe a half turn or full turn tighter than nut flush

•54mm spitfire classics. I'm not even gonna bother anymore with any other shapes or sizes, I always end up back here anyway

Pretty much the most generic shit ever



Pretty close right here

Gonna swap the bigheads for some 93a classics and then absolutely leave it alone until like, April fools day, where I will probably just continue to not change anything

[Mbrimson88]

Agreed

Hollow axles don't feel right to me

I think tiny wheels is the best way to lighten up for flip tricks

I'd be curious to see someone weigh the exact same trucks but one is new and the other is super ground down

Re weight of well used trucks?  I haven't put any on the scales, but yes I think a few sets I have from trade ins that I have flattened out the hanger to remove the grooves seem quite a bit lighter overall than the brand new versions of the same products.

I guess even looking at how solid the Indy Mid hanger is, with all that added weight, then something that is almost to axle and rounded off nicely too, which I can do as well, those things have way less meat on them, so it would make sense that they would also be a lot lighter.


A set of very well used Ti Indy 149s are the lightest I have ever skated, way too light for me, so I put them on some solid cast baseplates and a more solid deck with bigger wheels and it works out pretty well now, even if it is a bit lighter, it is not too light as a complete.


* Removing grooves is fairly easy - have the board set up, then remove the wheels, so it is just the axles scraping back and forth on some rough concrete, then lift each kick to round them off a bit more and lastly use excess griptape in a strip to really get a smooth finish on the hanger and make it look nice and flat across the top while still rounding off the worn area a bit more.  They don't look like new, but they do still skate fine and I don't get caught in someone elses old grooves either.

[PressureCracktoHealthySna]

How silly would it be rocking a full 10.0 skate deck with 8.75 trucks. I really enjoy this board but 215s feel pretty massive when trying to lock in to grinds in the bowl

[munchbox]

How silly would it be rocking a full 10.0 skate deck with 8.75 trucks. I really enjoy this board but 215s feel pretty massive when trying to lock in to grinds in the bowl

locking in with trucks 1.25” narrower than the deck
would feel pretty shitty
especially on a board with no taper

9.5 axles might be your best bet for smaller trucks

[PressureCracktoHealthySna]

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How silly would it be rocking a full 10.0 skate deck with 8.75 trucks. I really enjoy this board but 215s feel pretty massive when trying to lock in to grinds in the bowl

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locking in with trucks 1.25” narrower than the deck
would feel pretty shitty
especially on a board with no taper

9.5 axles might be your best bet for smaller trucks

yeah thats what i was worried about to. i think ill just get used to them for now and throw another deck on my old 8.75s. thank you

[Sedition]

How silly would it be rocking a full 10.0 skate deck with 8.75 trucks. I really enjoy this board but 215s feel pretty massive when trying to lock in to grinds in the bowl

Very. If you want to go smaller, get 169s and put some really wide wheels on it. And even that might still be a bit weird.

[Schinken]

My 159 cast hollow arrived today. Couldn't resist to put them on the scale. 379g/truck. My 159 standards with a little wear on them are around 395. I will totally feel the 16g less per truck....not

I'm still happy that I can have two setups with 159s now. One day I like short wheelbase on another day I like longer wheelbase.

[The Huffer]

How silly would it be rocking a full 10.0 skate deck with 8.75 trucks. I really enjoy this board but 215s feel pretty massive when trying to lock in to grinds in the bowl

What board is it? It it is a popsicle, hell no.

I have a Natas re-issue (10"+) with 8.75" trucks and really wide OJ combos and it works and looks great.

[Slave IV]

My 159 cast hollow arrived today. Couldn't resist to put them on the scale. 379g/truck. My 159 standards with a little wear on them are around 395. I will totally feel the 16g less per truck....not

I'm still happy that I can have two setups with 159s now. One day I like short wheelbase on another day I like longer wheelbase.

Wouldn’t they both have the same wheelbase since they are both on cast baseplates?

[Schinken]

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My 159 cast hollow arrived today. Couldn't resist to put them on the scale. 379g/truck. My 159 standards with a little wear on them are around 395. I will totally feel the 16g less per truck....not

I'm still happy that I can have two setups with 159s now. One day I like short wheelbase on another day I like longer wheelbase.

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Wouldn’t they both have the same wheelbase since they are both on cast baseplates?

I have two decks right now I switch between from time to time.
One is a 8.6 steep kicks and 14.25 wheelbase. The other is 8.6 14.75 and more mellow kicks

[Schinken]

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What I noticed about myself. Setups in my mind look way more drastic than in reality. For example the "picture" above. In my mind indy trucks I imagine my setup looks like this, when in reality I can barely see the difference in height between low trucks... the same goes for 8.25 trucks on 8.5, 54mm vs 58mm wheels .....

Anyone can relate to this?

[Sedition]

...when in reality I can barely see the difference...

That's because, harsh-reality, there comes a point when the Madness is far more in your head than in your equipment.

[Hqjdncm]

What I noticed about myself. Setups in my mind look way more drastic than in reality. For example the "picture" above. In my mind indy trucks I imagine my setup looks like this, when in reality I can barely see the difference in height between low trucks... the same goes for 8.25 trucks on 8.5, 54mm vs 58mm wheels .....

Anyone can relate to this?

I can. Except for truck height. I cant really imagine it or see it even when setup but I do feel it. But everything else yea it’s pretty drastic in my mind but it’s still noticeable once setup (to the eye and feel wise)

[surfjunior]

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What I noticed about myself. Setups in my mind look way more drastic than in reality. For example the "picture" above. In my mind indy trucks I imagine my setup looks like this, when in reality I can barely see the difference in height between low trucks... the same goes for 8.25 trucks on 8.5, 54mm vs 58mm wheels .....

Anyone can relate to this?

I can relate to that when it comes to wheelbase. Whenever I setup a board with a longer wheelbase than I prefer I expect it to affect my skating, but I barely notice it unless im doing flip tricks which I rarley do.

[Teethcanbesexy]

How silly would it be rocking a full 10.0 skate deck with 8.75 trucks. I really enjoy this board but 215s feel pretty massive when trying to lock in to grinds in the bowl

I skated a 10 on 8.5 trucks.  I put a couple washers in to make the wheels slightly stick out.  It was pretty fun being on a board that big with a turn that’s quicker than it should be.  Made the entire experience more nimble feeling.  My trucks were loose enough so that it didn’t tip

[Slave IV]

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My 159 cast hollow arrived today. Couldn't resist to put them on the scale. 379g/truck. My 159 standards with a little wear on them are around 395. I will totally feel the 16g less per truck....not

I'm still happy that I can have two setups with 159s now. One day I like short wheelbase on another day I like longer wheelbase.

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Wouldn’t they both have the same wheelbase since they are both on cast baseplates?

[close]

That makes sense!

I have two decks right now I switch between from time to time.
One is a 8.6 steep kicks and 14.25 wheelbase. The other is 8.6 14.75 and more mellow kicks

[Hqjdncm]

So had a good sesh today but I am just dying to try Lurpiv. I feel like I can get the pros of Indy (the turn and height) minus some cons (heavy truck but pop is a bit anemic at times)
After today I think I’ll gladly trade turn for pinch
Gonna actually try to axle my Indy’s to justify buying new trucks

[Slayer666]

So had a good sesh today but I am just dying to try Lurpiv. I feel like I can get the pros of Indy (the turn and height) minus some cons (heavy truck but pop is a bit anemic at times)
After today I think I’ll gladly trade turn for pinch
Gonna actually try to axle my Indy’s to justify buying new trucks

Lurpivs do feel like an improvement to indy in a lot of ways and they preform similar. I wouldnt really say that aces feel like indys as much as lurpiv do. But I think Ill just always prefer the way independent looks and feels more classic

[SwitchBenihana]

Lurpivs have worse pinch and KP clearance compared to Indy. They turn nothing alike and pop nothing alike. The only thing similar is the aesthetic vs some of the older hangers.

[Slayer666]

Lurpivs have worse pinch and KP clearance compared to Indy. They turn nothing alike and pop nothing alike. The only thing similar is the aesthetic vs some of the older hangers.

what truck is most comparable to independent in your opinion?

[Sedition]

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Lurpivs have worse pinch and KP clearance compared to Indy. They turn nothing alike and pop nothing alike. The only thing similar is the aesthetic vs some of the older hangers.

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what truck is most comparable to independent in your opinion?

Slappy. Hard stop.

[Hqjdncm]

Lurpivs have worse pinch and KP clearance compared to Indy. They turn nothing alike and pop nothing alike. The only thing similar is the aesthetic vs some of the older hangers.

If the pop is similar to Indy I’d be bummed. And idk if I said this right but I would rather not have pinch that’s perfect to actually have a turny wiggly truck. Also I always grind through my kp anyways

[swongolianbbq]

Some 14" wb bakers

[Schinken]

Today I got reminded to not expect anything from changing gear. Tried my 159 cast hollows today. I had high expectations,  but in reality I skate as good/bad as with the standards. Wearing in new bushings suck as well.
 
Big shout out to Mbrimson88 for suggesting the Antihero 8.62. The initial meh changed and I really like it now. Just needed a little bit time to adjust. Really like its longer tail compared to the creature 8.6