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For 3 flips…..isn’t magic carpet better than hot rod?

[TheCrimsonShroud]

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i've been messing around with sub 8.5 sizing on various wood shops for the first time in the quest to get 360 flips by my 38th birthday. missed the goal date but it's been a nice experiment. I flung around an ancient 7.5-7.75 pennswood on ventures and 50mm wheels my buddy broke out and although i only threw out a few attempts, that tiny ass board was truth central for flip tricks. I'm thinking I want to set up an 8" with 14"WB and 149s. Don't have any wheels on ice smaller than 54, so it's gonna be funky, but i'm thinking that for a little while anyways, the difference between 8.25 and 8 will be negligible for learning new flip tricks that i'm not getting on 8.25/8.5. Probably gonna crack and order a mini logo deck like Fletch

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Crail is calling

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heard he’s skating a flight deck. i wonder which shape?
there is something interesting, to me, about possibly skating a powell board in this year of 2023. several times in my skate life, skateboards, in general, felt a little taboo, wrong, socially risky. for a moment i was thinking that buying a flight deck, might bring me some of that nostalgic feeling, of not fitting in, that skating used to represent to me.

and then i remembered i’m closer to 50 and most every old white guy my age has some shitty powell board.




but for serious if we find out what our flat god is riding lemme know. could be private, or not, idc

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@23:20 @Fletschinger spits about the mini logo

I bet @Sativa Lung knows whats up with these as well



i feel you on the powell tip. There are certain things i'm not going to do- such as buy an element deck, regardless of low price. this video is the only reason i'd consider a mini logo. although, my first real deck was purple mini logo in probably 1997/98, i'm not really trying to go there at this time but... i going to end up snagging one of these 8s and see what happens.

Why no Element? Not judging, just wondering g what I missed. And you know you’ve got the madness when you’re factoring in your house’s pitch into kick angle measurements.

Real shit though, I use my iPhone’s level to measure kick angle. My favorite board (G069) is a hair over 18°.

[Sedition]

"Weird I saved this. I don't save anything."

(As he is standing next to huge stack of saved decks)

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i've been messing around with sub 8.5 sizing on various wood shops for the first time in the quest to get 360 flips by my 38th birthday. missed the goal date but it's been a nice experiment. I flung around an ancient 7.5-7.75 pennswood on ventures and 50mm wheels my buddy broke out and although i only threw out a few attempts, that tiny ass board was truth central for flip tricks. I'm thinking I want to set up an 8" with 14"WB and 149s. Don't have any wheels on ice smaller than 54, so it's gonna be funky, but i'm thinking that for a little while anyways, the difference between 8.25 and 8 will be negligible for learning new flip tricks that i'm not getting on 8.25/8.5. Probably gonna crack and order a mini logo deck like Fletch

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Crail is calling

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heard he’s skating a flight deck. i wonder which shape?
there is something interesting, to me, about possibly skating a powell board in this year of 2023. several times in my skate life, skateboards, in general, felt a little taboo, wrong, socially risky. for a moment i was thinking that buying a flight deck, might bring me some of that nostalgic feeling, of not fitting in, that skating used to represent to me.

and then i remembered i’m closer to 50 and most every old white guy my age has some shitty powell board.




but for serious if we find out what our flat god is riding lemme know. could be private, or not, idc

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@23:20 @Fletschinger spits about the mini logo

I bet @Sativa Lung knows whats up with these as well



i feel you on the powell tip. There are certain things i'm not going to do- such as buy an element deck, regardless of low price. this video is the only reason i'd consider a mini logo. although, my first real deck was purple mini logo in probably 1997/98, i'm not really trying to go there at this time but... i going to end up snagging one of these 8s and see what happens.

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Why no Element? Not judging, just wondering g what I missed. And you know you’ve got the madness when you’re factoring in your house’s pitch into kick angle measurements.

Real shit though, I use my iPhone’s level to measure kick angle. My favorite board (G069) is a hair over 18°.

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westgate is the shit and all, but element is wack and i'd rather give my hard earned diminishing funds to my local shop/company etc. I wrote that mostly in response to people going bonkers over $15-20 element decks a few weeks back and me and some others saying/thinking "weak, element sucks..." Standard BBS shapes is what people are looking for in that run and I can support my local who sells BBS shop decks for a $20 more that's going to go into the community. Ordering a mini logo feels kind of uncomfortable too, but it may serve a purpose.

yes agree

[Xen]

Anyone ever find a 'smaller' 8.3 Manderson 'shape' board? (length and WB); FA/Hockey? Gall's 8.25 metal?

[IpathCats]

For 3 flips…..isn’t magic carpet better than hot rod?

I'd say so

[switchfakie]

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For 3 flips…..isn’t magic carpet better than hot rod?

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I'd say so

I’d agree but I’d also say from experience that as long as half the wheel isn’t sticking out on hot rod, you can still fairly easily do 3flips

[LebowskisRug]

Anyone ever find a 'smaller' 8.3 Manderson 'shape' board? (length and WB); FA/Hockey? Gall's 8.25 metal?

Those AWS boards are close but slightly longer tails.

[Phao Lo]

Anyone ever find a 'smaller' 8.3 Manderson 'shape' board? (length and WB); FA/Hockey? Gall's 8.25 metal?

Have you tried the Quasi 8.25" x 31.8" WB 14" BBS yet?

[Xen]

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Anyone ever find a 'smaller' 8.3 Manderson 'shape' board? (length and WB); FA/Hockey? Gall's 8.25 metal?

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Have you tried the Quasi 8.25" x 31.8" WB 14" BBS yet?

Yeah a few times, I’m hoping to get an 8.3 but shorter; still looking at the gall metal.

[spacial_profiling]

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For 3 flips…..isn’t magic carpet better than hot rod?

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I'd say so

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I’d agree but I’d also say from experience that as long as half the wheel isn’t sticking out on hot rod, you can still fairly easily do 3flips

Can remove the axel washers as well if you haven’t already.

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Anyone ever find a 'smaller' 8.3 Manderson 'shape' board? (length and WB); FA/Hockey? Gall's 8.25 metal?

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Have you tried the Quasi 8.25" x 31.8" WB 14" BBS yet?

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Yeah a few times, I’m hoping to get an 8.3 but shorter; still looking at the gall metal.

i’ve never skated the manderson, and i’m most likely way off here, but a board i fondly remember, from…maybe 2017? ish. was this doomsayers 8.28. it was short. top was laser engraved (i think). that board was the shit. such a great shape. at the time i was trying to make indys work, and i really enjoyed it. nose was bigger than i like, pop was fantastic.
someone on here said omar was a bit of a turd towards the artists that worked with him, and i moved on to other attempts at finding what worked for me. great board tho.

[Roisto]

Continuation to my previous wheelbase madness kookery:

I was thinking of getting a fish scale to start measuring the force needed to get the front of the deck up. Pair that knowledge with the pop angle measured with my phone and estimate based on that how the board would work for me. I told about this to my girlfriend who just looked at me like I’m insane (which I’m definitely not at all! )

Instead of doing all that I switched from the 8.3” Ishod TT to DLX 8.38” and had a great session just a while ago. So, madness curbed (for now at least).

[IpathCats]

Continuation to my previous wheelbase madness kookery:

I was thinking of getting a fish scale to start measuring the force needed to get the front of the deck up. Pair that knowledge with the pop angle measured with my phone and estimate based on that how the board would work for me. I told about this to my girlfriend who just looked at me like I’m insane (which I’m definitely not at all! )

Instead of doing all that I switched from the 8.3” Ishod TT to DLX 8.38” and had a great session just a while ago. So, madness curbed (for now at least).

I've found that my happy place setup switches between those two shapes depending on how I'm feeling.

[TheCrimsonShroud]

Continuation to my previous wheelbase madness kookery:

I was thinking of getting a fish scale to start measuring the force needed to get the front of the deck up. Pair that knowledge with the pop angle measured with my phone and estimate based on that how the board would work for me.

This is why I love this thread and community

[Xen]

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Anyone ever find a 'smaller' 8.3 Manderson 'shape' board? (length and WB); FA/Hockey? Gall's 8.25 metal?

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Have you tried the Quasi 8.25" x 31.8" WB 14" BBS yet?

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Yeah a few times, I’m hoping to get an 8.3 but shorter; still looking at the gall metal.

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i’ve never skated the manderson, and i’m most likely way off here, but a board i fondly remember, from…maybe 2017? ish. was this doomsayers 8.28. it was short. top was laser engraved (i think). that board was the shit. such a great shape. at the time i was trying to make indys work, and i really enjoyed it. nose was bigger than i like, pop was fantastic.
someone on here said omar was a bit of a turd towards the artists that worked with him, and i moved on to other attempts at finding what worked for me. great board tho.

The Manderson is a great shape, it's very similar to the AWS and Proto but just a bit mellower shape-wise...if it was just a bit shorter/trimmer all around I'd be golden. Gonna try the gall and hope for the best.

It could also feel too big because I've been on sub 32" boards with 14 <-> 14.18 WB for the last 3 boards so a 32" + 14.25 (and a full square shape) feels mighty hefty. If I skate park on the regular this would be the one.

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Anyone ever find a 'smaller' 8.3 Manderson 'shape' board? (length and WB); FA/Hockey? Gall's 8.25 metal?

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Have you tried the Quasi 8.25" x 31.8" WB 14" BBS yet?

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Yeah a few times, I’m hoping to get an 8.3 but shorter; still looking at the gall metal.

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i’ve never skated the manderson, and i’m most likely way off here, but a board i fondly remember, from…maybe 2017? ish. was this doomsayers 8.28. it was short. top was laser engraved (i think). that board was the shit. such a great shape. at the time i was trying to make indys work, and i really enjoyed it. nose was bigger than i like, pop was fantastic.
someone on here said omar was a bit of a turd towards the artists that worked with him, and i moved on to other attempts at finding what worked for me. great board tho.

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The Manderson is a great shape, it's very similar to the AWS and Proto but just a bit mellower shape-wise...if it was just a bit shorter/trimmer all around I'd be golden. Gonna try the gall and hope for the best.

It could also feel too big because I've been on sub 32" boards with 14 <-> 14.18 WB for the last 3 boards so a 32" + 14.25 (and a full square shape) feels mighty hefty. If I skate park on the regular this would be the one.

length is my currently my favorite criteria. i’ve been going way short, and it’s been easier for most things. 

[switchfakie]

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Anyone ever find a 'smaller' 8.3 Manderson 'shape' board? (length and WB); FA/Hockey? Gall's 8.25 metal?

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Have you tried the Quasi 8.25" x 31.8" WB 14" BBS yet?

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Yeah a few times, I’m hoping to get an 8.3 but shorter; still looking at the gall metal.

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i’ve never skated the manderson, and i’m most likely way off here, but a board i fondly remember, from…maybe 2017? ish. was this doomsayers 8.28. it was short. top was laser engraved (i think). that board was the shit. such a great shape. at the time i was trying to make indys work, and i really enjoyed it. nose was bigger than i like, pop was fantastic.
someone on here said omar was a bit of a turd towards the artists that worked with him, and i moved on to other attempts at finding what worked for me. great board tho.

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The Manderson is a great shape, it's very similar to the AWS and Proto but just a bit mellower shape-wise...if it was just a bit shorter/trimmer all around I'd be golden. Gonna try the gall and hope for the best.

It could also feel too big because I've been on sub 32" boards with 14 <-> 14.18 WB for the last 3 boards so a 32" + 14.25 (and a full square shape) feels mighty hefty. If I skate park on the regular this would be the one.

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length is my currently my favorite criteria. i’ve been going way short, and it’s been easier for most things.

Same bro, 8.75 x 31.5 is absurdly fun

[Sedition]

I didn’t post much about here, but I went through some deck Madness about 3 months ago. I normally ride DLX 8.25/14.38, and also have a DLX 8.75/14.62 that I ride sometimes. For a spell I was riding the 8.75 a lot, and suddenly my 8.25 seemed impossibly small (and 8.75 obviously too clunky for many things). This ignited a Madness to find an 8.5/14.5 middle-ground. At the tail end (recently) some wheel Madness also kicked in, which is really unusual for me.

I hadn’t had any serious Madness in quite awhile, but as we all know, it flares from time to time. In the end, I landed back on the exact same set-up(s) that I’ve always ridden. How surprising. And I reminded myself, yet again, “You know what you like. Don’t waste time, money, and emotional/mental investment on this, again. Just skate. Just enjoy what you know you enjoy.”

Last, I’ll put a plug in for Fresno Skateboard Salvage (links below). They do incredible work getting quality skateboards to at-risk youth, and are always looking for hardware donations. If you have any extra Madness gear, please consider sending it over to them. It will certainly go to good use. I’ve sent them a lot over the years, and it’s always rewarding to see it in the hands of some kid. Light the flame. Make skateboarding awesome for someone.

www.fresnoskateboardsalvage.org

https://instagram.com/fresnoskateboardsalvage?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

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went down a gnarly madness spiral, related to wanting to skate some more era correct setups, with some friends from way back, when 7.75s were common place.
ended up skating the best on a board that had stage 10 139s, which is a trip, as i’m not an indy person. but the results were the results.
or more accurately, i skated flatground almost as well as i did with 5.0, venture lo’s, and 50s, but was able to skate more terrain with the indy’s and larger wheels.
and skate half cabs, skated very well for me, but predictably felt like i was made out of painful glass, after the fun stopped.
another takeaway was that i skate better on spitfire classics, compared with tablets (that just look so not nice), and conical fulls.

the madness aspect is that i will take this info, and then certainly, most assuredly, switch shit up again, in the future.

oh, i have some mini logos that are currently kicking the ass of a pair of swiss, and another brand of bearings that people like(d), on here.
which is ‘funny’

[OhioGuy]

Got some Fastbreak Pros for $35. Debating if I should skate or put ‘em on ice. I already rotate between three pair of skate shoes 😖

[Daydream]

Got some Fastbreak Pros for $35. Debating if I should skate or put ‘em on ice. I already rotate between three pair of skate shoes 😖

got the same, fellow size 13’er right? Probably use em as summer chillers to start and break in then start skating em eventually

[OhioGuy]

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Got some Fastbreak Pros for $35. Debating if I should skate or put ‘em on ice. I already rotate between three pair of skate shoes 😖

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got the same, fellow size 13’er right? Probably use em as summer chillers to start and break in then start skating em eventually

Yup! They look great. I lowkey want to use them as chillers too. But I’m trying to not wear skate shoes daily. Need to Ultraboost for running around.

[OhioGuy]

Proud of myself for fighting setup madness. My ollies have turned to shit partly because this Sci-Fi Fantasy deck has steep kicks. Mellow kicks/lower trucks is calling me, but I’m like, “If you can skate this you’ll be able to skate anything.”

Don’t want to be confined to one brand and have to search all day for mellow boards.

[Daydream]

Proud of myself for fighting setup madness. My ollies have turned to shit partly because this Sci-Fi Fantasy deck has steep kicks. Mellow kicks/lower trucks is calling me, but I’m like, “If you can skate this you’ll be able to skate anything.”

Don’t want to be confined to one brand and have to search all day for mellow boards.

which sci fi deck?

[OhioGuy]

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Proud of myself for fighting setup madness. My ollies have turned to shit partly because this Sci-Fi Fantasy deck has steep kicks. Mellow kicks/lower trucks is calling me, but I’m like, “If you can skate this you’ll be able to skate anything.”

Don’t want to be confined to one brand and have to search all day for mellow boards.

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which sci fi deck?

This one. I swear the tail is as steep as the nose. It’s wild 😭

[Richard Skidder]

Shoe size madness has crept back in. After deciding that most shoes in an 11 is the perfect fit they’ve all the sudden started to feel too big. What gives? The madness started when trying out slip-ons and the 11 just flops right off my feet. Now I’m wondering if I should have gone with 10.5 this whole time. I used to cram my feet into 10s and after sizing up lost almost all my flip tricks for a while. I don’t want to buy a 10.5 and have buyers remorse. I guess my question is:
How much room is too much room?
If say an 11 is too big in a Vans slip-on then is it also too big in a Halfcab?
Anyone else have this madness?

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Shoe size madness has crept back in. After deciding that most shoes in an 11 is the perfect fit they’ve all the sudden started to feel too big. What gives? The madness started when trying out slip-ons and the 11 just flops right off my feet. Now I’m wondering if I should have gone with 10.5 this whole time. I used to cram my feet into 10s and after sizing up lost almost all my flip tricks for a while. I don’t want to buy a 10.5 and have buyers remorse. I guess my question is:
How much room is too much room?
If say an 11 is too big in a Vans slip-on then is it also too big in a Halfcab?
Anyone else have this madness?

yes, i’ve had this message. don’t.
smaller shoes are bad for your feet, don’t.
wear em as big as you can, and just swear silently.
don’t.

[KidCarl]

Came here for someone to tell me I'm tripping and it's all good. I've been having deck size madness lately. I'm 6'2" with size 13 squatch feet, and for the past 2 years I've been on 8.25s, stacking up any I find on sale, but my feet hang over on both sides, which doesn't bother me on tricks, I really only think about it when I'm looking at a new deck to set up. I recently copped a few 8.38s and like it, but feel I need to go to 8.5. I skate pretty much all terrain. I listened to Shecks nine club, and dude was saying hes got like size 10 shoes on a 9" board because of the same madness. No way I'm going to 9", and my thought process is that back in the day guys would ride 7.75 decks with size 13 kicks no problem. Sorry for the long coffee fueled post, I just want to be satisfied with my setup, without longing for something else.

[LebowskisRug]

Proud of myself for fighting setup madness. My ollies have turned to shit partly because this Sci-Fi Fantasy deck has steep kicks. Mellow kicks/lower trucks is calling me, but I’m like, “If you can skate this you’ll be able to skate anything.”

Don’t want to be confined to one brand and have to search all day for mellow boards.

Dude the Sci-Fi I just setup is steep as well and it fucks my nollie tricks up badly with the Indy Standards I have otherwise been stoked on, but just focusing on adjusting my technique.