Gear madness support thread

[Dirty_Dan90]

i was riding indys till 2020 then switched to thunders in January of 2021, (which i think are my fav) but then switched to Ace's beginning of 22' then went to Venture in February of this year. Im the type of person that sets up something new, instantly hates it, orders some new shit but then get used to whatever i disliked then stick with it for awhile.

[j....soy.....]

Sounds like truck long Covid you have….

[Ok]

i was riding indys till 2020 then switched to thunders in January of 2021, (which i think are my fav) but then switched to Ace's beginning of 22' then went to Venture in February of this year. Im the type of person that sets up something new, instantly hates it, orders some new shit but then get used to whatever i disliked then stick with it for awhile.

are you the real dirty dan?

[ejazzle]

I went grind king, venture, krux, venture, indy, ace, venture and now on thunders. I don't think Ill ever switch from thunders. Wheel bite and not being able to turn were the bane of my existence for too long. I BELIEVE I have found my happy medium.

[Sedition]

I went grind king, venture, krux, venture, indy, ace, venture and now on thunders. I don't think Ill ever switch from thunders. Wheel bite and not being able to turn were the bane of my existence for too long. I BELIEVE I have found my happy medium.

I've always thought Forged Indys were the perfect "middle ground" truck. Not too high. Not too low. Longer WB than Ace, not as long as Venture (same with turn). Middle ground pinch. Middle ground weight. Those are the happy medium for me.

[Frank and Fred]

happy medium.

I believe you will find that with Thace.... at least I hope I will. T2s........ 

[Free hat]

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Madness hit. Want Thunders badly, I've been on Ace for like 2 years but you know the drill...
Also it doesn't help that I have a good discount on them.

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Don’t do it. Aces turn. Thunders don’t. Plus, that Thunder baseplate thing.

I switched from AF1 to thunders and think they turn fine. Baseplate doesn’t bother me either. Crazy how subjective skate gear can be.

[fakiefs180]

I grew up with Thunders. Switched to Indys for a few years. Now back on Thunders. But with Indy bushings. Everything feels good. I actually like the Thunder baseplate more for Noseslides, maybe because I learned them on Thunders back then. Skateboarding is weird sometimes.

[CarcassToss]

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I went grind king, venture, krux, venture, indy, ace, venture and now on thunders. I don't think Ill ever switch from thunders. Wheel bite and not being able to turn were the bane of my existence for too long. I BELIEVE I have found my happy medium.

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I've always thought Forged Indys were the perfect "middle ground" truck. Not too high. Not too low. Longer WB than Ace, not as long as Venture (same with turn). Middle ground pinch. Middle ground weight. Those are the happy medium for me.

I've always hated Forged Indys. They have more wheelbite than normal, don't equate to as much pop for me, and the sometimes feel too light and squirrely. I wheelbite less on Thunders, which are lower and some people think have more bite. I want to like the concept of Forged Indys but every time I have ridden them they just feel off. I actually think AF1 are what I want forged Indys to be except that I have to 100% run harder bushings in them.

[Sedition]

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I went grind king, venture, krux, venture, indy, ace, venture and now on thunders. I don't think Ill ever switch from thunders. Wheel bite and not being able to turn were the bane of my existence for too long. I BELIEVE I have found my happy medium.

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I've always thought Forged Indys were the perfect "middle ground" truck. Not too high. Not too low. Longer WB than Ace, not as long as Venture (same with turn). Middle ground pinch. Middle ground weight. Those are the happy medium for me.

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I've always hated Forged Indys. They have more wheelbite than normal, don't equate to as much pop for me, and the sometimes feel too light and squirrely. I wheelbite less on Thunders, which are lower and some people think have more bite. I want to like the concept of Forged Indys but every time I have ridden them they just feel off. I actually think AF1 are what I want forged Indys to be except that I have to 100% run harder bushings in them.

HA! Says the guy who hates the DLX 8.25! We clearly have very different tastes.

[CarcassToss]

I want to like both so badly. The 8.25 comes in the best graphics and every shop everywhere has several in stock at all times.

[Mbrimson88]

I want to like both so badly. The 8.25 comes in the best graphics and every shop everywhere has several in stock at all times.

The 8.25 boards have always been on the shorter mold, so they tend to be steeper as well, when compared to something like the 8.38 boards which seem to be way less steep overall when comparing any number of each of them.  Maybe finding boards with IV on top could help if they feel too quick in the kicks, or riding trucks with shorter wheelbases, even if you are not a fan of Indy, as per previous comments.

I know how much that 8.25 does work well on any Indy trucks, as I have one myself, but it is personal opinion and if something doesn't work for you, there is no point trying to struggle with it, just to have it make life harder every time you step on a board.  I did also have it set up on Thunders and even tried it on Ventures just to see, but prefer Indy for the wheelbase.

Another 8.25 Full, not SE with 14.5 wb I put Ace trucks on and it worked well enough too, but that is a different board again.

Probably doesn't count so much for me though, as I have almost one of everything set up in some form or another, just to see what they are like and to let people skate them if they are not sure of what a board shape or mix of brands / parts might feel like.

[Mbrimson88]

* Given this is the gear madness thread, finding something that works or staying away from something that doesn't work is the main thing, but of course sometimes you just want to see what this shape or that truck is like, especially with all the people talking about this and that on Slap.

[Sedition]

* Given this is the gear madness thread, finding something that works or staying away from something that doesn't work is the main thing, but of course sometimes you just want to see what this shape or that truck is like, especially with all the people talking about this and that on Slap.

This entire thread has helped both abate, and exacerbate, my Madness.

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* Given this is the gear madness thread, finding something that works or staying away from something that doesn't work is the main thing, but of course sometimes you just want to see what this shape or that truck is like, especially with all the people talking about this and that on Slap.

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This entire thread has helped both abate, and exacerbate, my Madness.

and then back again.

every post i make should be in this thread

[danmasontree]

I have shoe madness right now. I’m currently skating NB 440 V1 with heel slip issues. I hate the new N on the v2’s.

Every new shoe I’ve tried I don’t like or they don’t fit me right, it’s a bummer.


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[rocklobster]

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* Given this is the gear madness thread, finding something that works or staying away from something that doesn't work is the main thing, but of course sometimes you just want to see what this shape or that truck is like, especially with all the people talking about this and that on Slap.

[close]

This entire thread has helped both abate, and exacerbate, my Madness.

[close]

and then back again.

every post i make should be in this thread

Everyone bounces between "this is my perfect setup and I will never change anything ever again" to "maybe I need another mm of height with credit card risers and maybe go Indy conical bottom with Bones top bushing".

There is no cure.

[Bongwater Mojito]

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* Given this is the gear madness thread, finding something that works or staying away from something that doesn't work is the main thing, but of course sometimes you just want to see what this shape or that truck is like, especially with all the people talking about this and that on Slap.

[close]

This entire thread has helped both abate, and exacerbate, my Madness.

[close]

and then back again.

every post i make should be in this thread

[close]

Everyone bounces between "this is my perfect setup and I will never change anything ever again" to "maybe I need another mm of height with credit card risers and maybe go Indy conical bottom with Bones top bushing".

There is no cure.

100% agree. Related reading: Michael Easter's The Scarcity Brain. Current stage of western market economy plays our minds like slot machines. Maybe there's MORE fun skating if I try (ie. buy) that combination?

[moonordie]

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* Given this is the gear madness thread, finding something that works or staying away from something that doesn't work is the main thing, but of course sometimes you just want to see what this shape or that truck is like, especially with all the people talking about this and that on Slap.

[close]

This entire thread has helped both abate, and exacerbate, my Madness.

[close]

and then back again.

every post i make should be in this thread

[close]

Everyone bounces between "this is my perfect setup and I will never change anything ever again" to "maybe I need another mm of height with credit card risers and maybe go Indy conical bottom with Bones top bushing".

There is no cure.

That's the absolute truth, maybe the only cure is to delete Slap from your life.

[Bongwater Mojito]

This is where I'm afraid my current truck madness with Venture will end up to...

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This is where I'm afraid my current truck madness with Venture will end up to...

undoubtedly

[lulz]

This is where I'm afraid my current truck madness with Venture will end up to...

I’ve been there. Technically with mini logo trucks and 100a doh dohs, bushings. All I needed was some 104a/84b bushings. (No, nobody needs that, that’s why they don’t make them.)

Ventures are great, the bushings need to break in(like they all do.)
For me, the break in process is: one hour of heal/toe. I don’t ride them new, they are too soft. Don’t know how long to break in riding, way too long. I put the board somewhere I walk by all the time. Every time I see it it gets a minute or five, until it reaches 60.

Alternate, if you ride in 40 degree weather: same as above except with ace low bushings.

Lol. The end results of my madness still sound crazy. 🤪

[europa1991]

Can someone smarter than me please tell me as soon as I switched from a Quasi PS Stix 8.25x14.25 to a DLX BBS 8.25x 14.38 I’ve lost any kind of stable pop. I’ve tried this deck with a set of Aces, Indy’s, and even an old pair of Thunder hollows and everything just feels off.. If it’s wheelbase, I’d be kind of shocked because I like a 14.25 to 14.38 but of course I could be wrong.. Kicks? Steepness? That shovel shape ??

[Ok]

why go from quasi to something else?

i prefer ps stix, and that board is probably shorter in length as well.

you’ll get used to it tho. or maybe that’s just what happens for me, i get used to it, but my baseline is just bad, so i accept bad

[europa1991]

Needed a board and that was pretty much my only option.. shop had a 8.25 Hockey but it was priced at like $80+ …now I’m thinking I probably should have went with that.

[CarcassToss]

Can someone smarter than me please tell me as soon as I switched from a Quasi PS Stix 8.25x14.25 to a DLX BBS 8.25x 14.38 I’ve lost any kind of stable pop. I’ve tried this deck with a set of Aces, Indy’s, and even an old pair of Thunder hollows and everything just feels off.. If it’s wheelbase, I’d be kind of shocked because I like a 14.25 to 14.38 but of course I could be wrong.. Kicks? Steepness? That shovel shape ??

I hate the DLX 8.25 cuz it has no fingers of flat as Ben D calls it. Kicks turn up after the bolts and a short tail.

[Sedition]

I hate the DLX 8.25 cuz it has no fingers of flat as Ben D calls it. Kicks turn up after the bolts and a short tail.

Uhm….what?

[Kombuch-A-Holic]

Warning, long rant ahead. It’s been nearly two years since I messed up my ankle, and ever since, my skating confidence just hasn't been the same. I've also had a few other nagging injuries, and during that time, I've been constantly tweaking my setups. I rode that 917 slick far longer than I should have, totally in love with my backside flips on it with Ventures and a loose bushing kit. After a break from skating this winter, It was bad, so I switched the bushings back to stock, which helped, and then it was finally time to retire that deck.

I picked up a Flip Tom Penny deck for $40 and set it up with Stage 4 Indies, and damn, it felt good—for like a day. My FS flips were butter on it, but that was about it. That setup came with 54mm full conicals, which were the wrong size because the shop messed up my order.

Lately, my skating has only gotten worse, so I went back to my old FA setup on some old Indies, and just like that, I started getting all my flat ground tricks back. I hadn’t landed a heelflip in over a year! I just need to stick with FA/Hockey with Indies and stop fucking around.

But just in case I need to change my whole identity to keep skating, I do have a 9.5 egg on the way. 

[smg1138]

Warning, long rant ahead. It’s been nearly two years since I messed up my ankle, and ever since, my skating confidence just hasn't been the same. I've also had a few other nagging injuries, and during that time, I've been constantly tweaking my setups. I rode that 917 slick far longer than I should have, totally in love with my backside flips on it with Ventures and a loose bushing kit. After a break from skating this winter, It was bad, so I switched the bushings back to stock, which helped, and then it was finally time to retire that deck.

I picked up a Flip Tom Penny deck for $40 and set it up with Stage 4 Indies, and damn, it felt good—for like a day. My FS flips were butter on it, but that was about it. That setup came with 54mm full conicals, which were the wrong size because the shop messed up my order.

Lately, my skating has only gotten worse, so I went back to my old FA setup on some old Indies, and just like that, I started getting all my flat ground tricks back. I hadn’t landed a heelflip in over a year! I just need to stick with FA/Hockey with Indies and stop fucking around.

But just in case I need to change my whole identity to keep skating, I do have a 9.5 egg on the way. 

I just started skating a Hockey 8.25 and I'm really enjoying it so far. Thought it would be too square but I actually really dig the shape a lot. Seems like recently I've gravitated towards really full shapes. Are you skating Indy standards or forged on yours? I keep going back and forth trying to decide what I like better. Truck madness is the absolute worst 

[CarcassToss]

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I hate the DLX 8.25 cuz it has no fingers of flat as Ben D calls it. Kicks turn up after the bolts and a short tail.

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Uhm….what?

Pretty simple since I just had one of these decks and couldn't figure out why I hated this shape so I set it on top of decks I like and lined up the bolt holes. The 8.25 shape, even compared to 2 other DLX shapes I have at home in the bin, kicks up sooner after the bolts on the nose. Ben calls this "fingers of flat" cuz he measures with his fingers. You can visually see it rise up sooner. One of my hobbies is furniture building so I used a contour gauge to compare as well and it paints the same picture. This is a III stamped Real 8.25. Same case for the tail although it is not as egregious.

This is part of what Ben was talking about with the Easy Rider shapes. The kick angles themselves are the same, but the flat before is greater.

The person I was responding to is on a Quasi. I saw one in the shop last week and it has a decent amount of flat after the bolts. I was specifically looking for this with decks since Ben's video came out and noticed quite a few PS shapes and DSM shapes have this. Interestingly enough Ben was on a lot of PS decks and made a video about the large amount of flat on DSM decks. So, the person asking why they don't like the DLX might not like it for the same reason I don't- the lack of flat after the bolts.