Gear madness support thread

[swongolianbbq]

My current cruiser is the same specs as my everyday board, but I kinda wanna build one with 60mm wheels and keep the same pop angle pretty much

Basically what I run now is

8.25" Powell flight deck, 14.25 wb
Stupid gritty Powell hardcore grip
8.5" Aces
54mm spitfire cruiser wheels w/ ceramic reds

Thinking of this one tho

9"-ish Powell flight with same kick angle, using chems wb tool to make 14.25
Same gnarly griptape
1/4" risers, 9" aces
60mm dragon formula rat bones or 97a radial/conical full spits, or those crazy huge spitfire cruiser wheels, probably will switch it up
Powell tail bone, rib bones, jaw bone, for durability and also to match the pop angle after adding 3/8" to the overall height with bigger wheels and risers

Those decks don't get soggy, ceramic bearings with extra oil and the shields on have proven themselves in rain and mud and shit, the 80hd spits did well on gravel/dirt, the grip doesn't give a shit about being wet or muddy

Right now my tail is kinda razoring a bit and itd be nice to have the skid on there, would increase durability from slipping out and ramming into stuff/chipping too.. but the pop angle would be mad different. With some 60mm wheels and 1/4" risers it would equal back out, and I could also go faster and through more gnarly crap. I think there's like one Powell flight deck right now that has the kick angle and width I want, I just gotta drill the nose back with that chems tool to make it 14.25, and find an old jawbone on eBay and im probably set with a pretty invincible cruiser. Probably gonna repaint whatever graphic comes with it... Last one I just put four 11" spitfire stickers over it 😆

If they made radial full 93a 60mm I'd be fuckin stoked

Never tried the dragon formula but I think the old rat bones 60mm's will be the first ones I try for this idea

I guess jaw bones are hard to find, expensive and also like, rubbery and not hard plastic.. Rad railz made one, I'm sure I could get one. Might just put a smaller tail skid on the nose 🤷‍♀️

[Xen]

You are not alone (last slide)

[swongolianbbq]

I ground off a 16th from each side of some 8.5" aces to use with no inner washer on 8" decks a while back without a buncha axle sticking out, that was fun.

[Rick Trapasso]

I ground off a 16th from each side of some 8.5" aces to use with no inner washer on 8" decks a while back without a buncha axle sticking out, that was fun.

This is what I like to hear.

[Ok]

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I ground off a 16th from each side of some 8.5" aces to use with no inner washer on 8" decks a while back without a buncha axle sticking out, that was fun.

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This is what I like to hear.

i mean….makes some sense.
 ace classic 55 riders will agree as well.

[144p]

Trying to reset my skating, so
Much flopping around on sizes and truck brands.
I set up 2 similar completes in hopes that some of my flip tricks will re emerge. Turning 50 has been tough,
My energy level feels so much lower and my arthritic knee has made it tough to do a lot of things.
I do so much rehab, watch what I eat,
Cold plunges and so much crazy shit hoping to counteract it but still suffering a bit.

Back to Indy’s for both setups,
8.38 and 8.5 one bbs and one is stix. Smaller wheels for both(54). Here’s to regaining some timing and pop!

[Xen]

Trying to reset my skating, so
Much flopping around on sizes and truck brands.
I set up 2 similar completes in hopes that some of my flip tricks will re emerge. Turning 50 has been tough,
My energy level feels so much lower and my arthritic knee has made it tough to do a lot of things.
I do so much rehab, watch what I eat,
Cold plunges and so much crazy shit hoping to counteract it but still suffering a bit.

Back to Indy’s for both setups,
8.38 and 8.5 one bbs and one is stix. Smaller wheels for both(54). Here’s to regaining some timing and pop!

@144p Busted knee gang here. P/T, cremes, peptides (wolverine stack), working out (all the damn muscles around the knee...), you know what really works? Not skating (and peptides, fr). Fucking sucks. 93s...and maybe some 1010s...

Have you checked your arches? My feet are DOA levels of flat these days, I can feel the pronation so I rock high arch insoles (and wide shoes).

Neoprene sleeves are snakeoil, these things are fucking voodoo, I kid you not, lifesavers, they make skating sessions twice as long with significantly less recovery time and I can squat/press deadlift a decent weight with them. Seriously, please try them:

https://www.amazon.com/MUELLER-Medicine-Adjustable-Patella-Support/dp/B002WS49FA?ref_=ast_sto_dp&th=1&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/Bodyprox-Patella-Basketball-Tendonitis-Volleyball/dp/B07DLFP8Q5?ref_=ast_sto_dp

There are probably cheaper versions to be had, all the same china made with different logos.

[Texas_Tone]

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Trying to reset my skating, so
Much flopping around on sizes and truck brands.
I set up 2 similar completes in hopes that some of my flip tricks will re emerge. Turning 50 has been tough,
My energy level feels so much lower and my arthritic knee has made it tough to do a lot of things.
I do so much rehab, watch what I eat,
Cold plunges and so much crazy shit hoping to counteract it but still suffering a bit.

Back to Indy’s for both setups,
8.38 and 8.5 one bbs and one is stix. Smaller wheels for both(54). Here’s to regaining some timing and pop!

[close]

@144p Busted knee gang here. P/T, cremes, peptides (wolverine stack), working out (all the damn muscles around the knee...), you know what really works? Not skating (and peptides, fr). Fucking sucks. 93s...and maybe some 1010s...

Have you checked your arches? My feet are DOA levels of flat these days, I can feel the pronation so I rock high arch insoles (and wide shoes).

Neoprene sleeves are snakeoil, these things are fucking voodoo, I kid you not, lifesavers, they make skating sessions twice as long with significantly less recovery time and I can squat/press deadlift a decent weight with them. Seriously, please try them:

https://www.amazon.com/MUELLER-Medicine-Adjustable-Patella-Support/dp/B002WS49FA?ref_=ast_sto_dp&th=1&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/Bodyprox-Patella-Basketball-Tendonitis-Volleyball/dp/B07DLFP8Q5?ref_=ast_sto_dp

There are probably cheaper versions to be had, all the same china made with different logos.

Thanks xen, 38 here just got done with ACL surgery 3/15 been pushing around on a polarizer, definitely need to look into peptides, I’ve been using a compression sleeve just for my swelling and stuff but this brace seems what I’m really looking for, something to put some pressure above and below my kneecap, do you offer like workshops or something?? Every post about trucks you make I’m thinking “this dude gets it”….youve even got me to consider getting some STFs, you’re like a gear messiah

[Xen]

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Trying to reset my skating, so
Much flopping around on sizes and truck brands.
I set up 2 similar completes in hopes that some of my flip tricks will re emerge. Turning 50 has been tough,
My energy level feels so much lower and my arthritic knee has made it tough to do a lot of things.
I do so much rehab, watch what I eat,
Cold plunges and so much crazy shit hoping to counteract it but still suffering a bit.

Back to Indy’s for both setups,
8.38 and 8.5 one bbs and one is stix. Smaller wheels for both(54). Here’s to regaining some timing and pop!

[close]

@144p Busted knee gang here. P/T, cremes, peptides (wolverine stack), working out (all the damn muscles around the knee...), you know what really works? Not skating (and peptides, fr). Fucking sucks. 93s...and maybe some 1010s...

Have you checked your arches? My feet are DOA levels of flat these days, I can feel the pronation so I rock high arch insoles (and wide shoes).

Neoprene sleeves are snakeoil, these things are fucking voodoo, I kid you not, lifesavers, they make skating sessions twice as long with significantly less recovery time and I can squat/press deadlift a decent weight with them. Seriously, please try them:

https://www.amazon.com/MUELLER-Medicine-Adjustable-Patella-Support/dp/B002WS49FA?ref_=ast_sto_dp&th=1&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/Bodyprox-Patella-Basketball-Tendonitis-Volleyball/dp/B07DLFP8Q5?ref_=ast_sto_dp

There are probably cheaper versions to be had, all the same china made with different logos.

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Thanks xen, 38 here just got done with ACL surgery 3/15 been pushing around on a polarizer, definitely need to look into peptides, I’ve been using a compression sleeve just for my swelling and stuff but this brace seems what I’m really looking for, something to put some pressure above and below my kneecap, do you offer like workshops or something?? Every post about trucks you make I’m thinking “this dude gets it”….youve even got me to consider getting some STFs, you’re like a gear messiah

Thanks, but nothing I slap on these posts is to be taken as anything but opinion (or mild trolling, people are too serious).

Compression sleeves are usefull/useless depending on the injury/how much support you actually need (and where). I'd would check with your doc/PT about what you should and shouldn't wear tho, wouldn't want to impede recovery/put pressure on whatever is swelling (assume the neoprene is best for atleast some level/period of time and something like these braces for when you are not swollen anymore). A bit pricier than what I listed but sent this to 144p as well (I use it for both knees, it provides more lateral/sway support, you know skating/landing weird):

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0B6KW3H35/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I use the other, single strap ones for lifting since I'm stationary and the weight load isn't going to twist my knees unless my footing/form is way off.

I'll drop you a PM about peptides as the uninformed here will start yelling StErOiDs!1 or some shit. The ones I use are Dr. prescribed.

STFs (are now) an aquired taste; I prefer the feel of spits but enjoy the performance, shapes, (and longevity) of STFs more.

[Ok]

Trying to reset my skating, so
Much flopping around on sizes and truck brands.
I set up 2 similar completes in hopes that some of my flip tricks will re emerge. Turning 50 has been tough,
My energy level feels so much lower and my arthritic knee has made it tough to do a lot of things.
I do so much rehab, watch what I eat,
Cold plunges and so much crazy shit hoping to counteract it but still suffering a bit.

Back to Indy’s for both setups,
8.38 and 8.5 one bbs and one is stix. Smaller wheels for both(54). Here’s to regaining some timing and pop!

@Xen alrrady hit you with the good info, i just have some blather.

sizing down to the range you are talking about with these two setups, seems like a good call. bigger boards really beat me up. and by that i mean all of the little ligaments/connective tissues, get tired/sore, noticeably quicker on heavier setups.
i’ve tried to ride really small completes, and im sure that could work, but id have to skate way more often than i do.
which indy’s? indy’s are heavy, but can feel really light, and for some of us, they just ‘work’.

what’s the shoe of choice been?


i’m trying to learn a few things at mid 40s and im hurting. working a physical job doesn’t help.
i’m currently as settled as i have been on an 8.5, thunder team 149s, spitfire 52s (small and wide). usually 808s. skated in af1’s the other day. feet didn’t hurt, couldn’t land much tho.

i appreciate you forging ahead, even when the energy is down

[gaunting]

Idk how much this will help anyone who reads it, but it just certainly cured my truck madness 3 years ago or so.

I always make sure to have the kingpin bolts facing the same way you would see a stop sign 🛑. that way, I know my trucks are similar in tightness/loooseness, because both bolts are always facing that way. idk. 🤷‍♂️ helped me. lol I used to strip a kingpin in less than a week, trying to find that perfect spot.

[swongolianbbq]

I always just make a mark on the kingpin nut with a sharpie so I know how many rotations I've done, and if they're uneven I can do a half rotation or just put the ever so slightly "tighter" truck on the tail side 🤷‍♀️

Really trying to talk myself out of getting a 8.75-14.25 misregistered eagle and putting 9" aces and 60mm spits on that boi

Always afraid i'll end up liking stuff that's hard to find. Wish AH/Real or Baker would make the classic logo decks in a mellow 9x14.25 as part of the normal line.. I think T-funk skates a 9x14.25, not sure if it's the mellow one tho. Seen him with black bushings in his 169's once too, I was wondering about the speed wobble factor

I feel like a lot of those dudes have at least 2 setups... Lighter/heavier, harder/softer type of thing... different stuff for different spots. Must be nice to have access to wide boards with shorter wheelbases in whatever graphic you like, there's like no point in having a cruiser board if your daily driver rolls on 60mm 97a's

[CarcassToss]

Indy makes stock bushings in black for certain models. The 8.75/9 decks with a shorter WB are what they rode as kids but I saw him and that crew in person about a year ago and his board looked fucking huge. He's probably on a stock shape now that he's an adult.

[swongolianbbq]

It was on regular silver Indys so not sure, but u right tho. Oddly I wanted to get the slayer Indys a while back just for the red pivot cups 😆 didn't do it though just intrusive thoughts. Damn, I figured he didn't get that tall. I remember when I met Jerry and spanly I was surprised I was taller than them. Wouldn't be surprised that shorter dudes are skating long ass boards though, when you're that good you can prolly skate anything. Well shit I'm 35 and 5'9" and I want more 8.75/9's with 14.25 wb's.. and wheel wells hahah I'm prolly gonna try a Polar out or something

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that 9 polar looks nice. everytime i see one at a shop i pick it up.

[IusedToSkateMore]

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Trying to reset my skating, so
Much flopping around on sizes and truck brands.
I set up 2 similar completes in hopes that some of my flip tricks will re emerge. Turning 50 has been tough,
My energy level feels so much lower and my arthritic knee has made it tough to do a lot of things.
I do so much rehab, watch what I eat,
Cold plunges and so much crazy shit hoping to counteract it but still suffering a bit.

Back to Indy’s for both setups,
8.38 and 8.5 one bbs and one is stix. Smaller wheels for both(54). Here’s to regaining some timing and pop!

[close]

@144p Busted knee gang here. P/T, cremes, peptides (wolverine stack), working out (all the damn muscles around the knee...), you know what really works? Not skating (and peptides, fr). Fucking sucks. 93s...and maybe some 1010s...

Have you checked your arches? My feet are DOA levels of flat these days, I can feel the pronation so I rock high arch insoles (and wide shoes).

Neoprene sleeves are snakeoil, these things are fucking voodoo, I kid you not, lifesavers, they make skating sessions twice as long with significantly less recovery time and I can squat/press deadlift a decent weight with them. Seriously, please try them:

https://www.amazon.com/MUELLER-Medicine-Adjustable-Patella-Support/dp/B002WS49FA?ref_=ast_sto_dp&th=1&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/Bodyprox-Patella-Basketball-Tendonitis-Volleyball/dp/B07DLFP8Q5?ref_=ast_sto_dp

There are probably cheaper versions to be had, all the same china made with different logos.

It sounds corny, but 1010s, i have been wearing the same pair for all purposes- work, walk, chill, and skate- for a few months now and its made hip/back/leg pain almost negligible. Im a longtime yoga instructor/practitioner, plenty of PT over the years, and theres just shit that, like almost 30 years of skating, getting hit by a car, and other lower body injuries, that require a good, solid shoe. 1010 is it for me

[moonordie]

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Trying to reset my skating, so
Much flopping around on sizes and truck brands.
I set up 2 similar completes in hopes that some of my flip tricks will re emerge. Turning 50 has been tough,
My energy level feels so much lower and my arthritic knee has made it tough to do a lot of things.
I do so much rehab, watch what I eat,
Cold plunges and so much crazy shit hoping to counteract it but still suffering a bit.

Back to Indy’s for both setups,
8.38 and 8.5 one bbs and one is stix. Smaller wheels for both(54). Here’s to regaining some timing and pop!

[close]

@144p Busted knee gang here. P/T, cremes, peptides (wolverine stack), working out (all the damn muscles around the knee...), you know what really works? Not skating (and peptides, fr). Fucking sucks. 93s...and maybe some 1010s...

Have you checked your arches? My feet are DOA levels of flat these days, I can feel the pronation so I rock high arch insoles (and wide shoes).

Neoprene sleeves are snakeoil, these things are fucking voodoo, I kid you not, lifesavers, they make skating sessions twice as long with significantly less recovery time and I can squat/press deadlift a decent weight with them. Seriously, please try them:

https://www.amazon.com/MUELLER-Medicine-Adjustable-Patella-Support/dp/B002WS49FA?ref_=ast_sto_dp&th=1&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/Bodyprox-Patella-Basketball-Tendonitis-Volleyball/dp/B07DLFP8Q5?ref_=ast_sto_dp

There are probably cheaper versions to be had, all the same china made with different logos.

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It sounds corny, but 1010s, i have been wearing the same pair for all purposes- work, walk, chill, and skate- for a few months now and its made hip/back/leg pain almost negligible. Im a longtime yoga instructor/practitioner, plenty of PT over the years, and theres just shit that, like almost 30 years of skating, getting hit by a car, and other lower body injuries, that require a good, solid shoe. 1010 is it for me

1010 are the best shoe ever. The only downside is after skating them you can't go back to anything else.

[Xen]

Today I am confused. Been skating a lot, same setup for two weeks (imagine!) but to fix a [minor] problem with my slappys, I took them off.

Sooooo of course them being off the madness said "Hey, Pssst....Ventures..." so on a whim (and wanting a bit more stabilty) I set up cast 5.6 hollows/stock reds w/flat washers...and swapped out 52mm 103a v5 STFs for 53mm v1 x99s (because my feet hurt from my shoes)...aaaaaand no change.

It felt [nearly] the same (barring the wheel duro), trucks are close in height (53.9 vs 53.5) and the V1s are probably closer to 52 by now, so board height is probably a wash...but I didn't notice any major difference in turn other than more stabilty. Weird.

It's been a minute x99->101 spit/103a stfs ->93a spit-> 103a stfs and I am (re)impressed with x99s the bark is way better than I remember.

[Ok]

Today I am confused. Been skating a lot, same setup for two weeks (imagine!) but to fix a [minor] problem with my slappys, I took them off.

Sooooo of course them being off the madness said "Hey, Pssst....Ventures..." so on a whim (and wanting a bit more stabilty) I set up cast 5.6 hollows/stock reds w/flat washers...and swapped out 52mm 103a v5 STFs for 53mm v1 x99s (because my feet hurt from my shoes)...aaaaaand no change.

It felt [nearly] the same (barring the wheel duro), trucks are close in height (53.9 vs 53.5) and the V1s are probably closer to 52 by now, so board height is probably a wash...but I didn't notice any major difference in turn other than more stabilty. Weird.

It's been a minute x99->101 spit/103a stfs ->93a spit-> 103a stfs and I am (re)impressed with x99s the bark is way better than I remember.

i relate.


my current confusion/madness:

found a setup that i really like. still skating meh, but the board feels nice. my confused consumerism is telling me to buy a few more of the deck, and a lighter version of the trucks, slightly smaller set of the wheels.
i could just not. we’ll see.

[Xen]

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Today I am confused. Been skating a lot, same setup for two weeks (imagine!) but to fix a [minor] problem with my slappys, I took them off.

Sooooo of course them being off the madness said "Hey, Pssst....Ventures..." so on a whim (and wanting a bit more stabilty) I set up cast 5.6 hollows/stock reds w/flat washers...and swapped out 52mm 103a v5 STFs for 53mm v1 x99s (because my feet hurt from my shoes)...aaaaaand no change.

It felt [nearly] the same (barring the wheel duro), trucks are close in height (53.9 vs 53.5) and the V1s are probably closer to 52 by now, so board height is probably a wash...but I didn't notice any major difference in turn other than more stabilty. Weird.

It's been a minute x99->101 spit/103a stfs ->93a spit-> 103a stfs and I am (re)impressed with x99s the bark is way better than I remember.

[close]

i relate.


my current confusion/madness:

found a setup that i really like. still skating meh, but the board feels nice. my confused consumerism is telling me to buy a few more of the deck, and a lighter version of the trucks, slightly smaller set of the wheels.
i could just not. we’ll see.

I don't see any of that being 'wrong' unless you are sitting on a ton of gear. If you think lighter parts will help, maybe it will (or won't ).

Is the deck hard to come by? If yes, grab one, if no...don't. They you will want to set it up well before the old one is done =D

I'm in a similar boat with the twin VX deck I'm riding (they are getting a bit scarce but the next drop is about to hit, then I'll decide); 'least it's a twin so the wear is super even and it isn't going to sog out anytime soon. Worst part is my madness was right on the money with board feel (VX/DSM/Crail vs BBS/PS), stepped on a few of the homies boards and one I have setup, all BSS...and man what a difference. Not sure I can (or want to) go back...even regular DSM wood might not be up to par now.

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Today I am confused. Been skating a lot, same setup for two weeks (imagine!) but to fix a [minor] problem with my slappys, I took them off.

Sooooo of course them being off the madness said "Hey, Pssst....Ventures..." so on a whim (and wanting a bit more stabilty) I set up cast 5.6 hollows/stock reds w/flat washers...and swapped out 52mm 103a v5 STFs for 53mm v1 x99s (because my feet hurt from my shoes)...aaaaaand no change.

It felt [nearly] the same (barring the wheel duro), trucks are close in height (53.9 vs 53.5) and the V1s are probably closer to 52 by now, so board height is probably a wash...but I didn't notice any major difference in turn other than more stabilty. Weird.

It's been a minute x99->101 spit/103a stfs ->93a spit-> 103a stfs and I am (re)impressed with x99s the bark is way better than I remember.

[close]

i relate.


my current confusion/madness:

found a setup that i really like. still skating meh, but the board feels nice. my confused consumerism is telling me to buy a few more of the deck, and a lighter version of the trucks, slightly smaller set of the wheels.
i could just not. we’ll see.

[close]

I don't see any of that being 'wrong' unless you are sitting on a ton of gear. If you think lighter parts will help, maybe it will (or won't ).

Is the deck hard to come by? If yes, grab one, if no...don't. They you will want to set it up well before the old one is done =D

I'm in a similar boat with the twin VX deck I'm riding (they are getting a bit scarce but the next drop is about to hit, then I'll decide); 'least it's a twin so the wear is super even and it isn't going to sog out anytime soon. Worst part is my madness was right on the money with board feel (VX/DSM/Crail vs BBS/PS), stepped on a few of the homies boards and one I have setup, all BSS...and man what a difference. Not sure I can (or want to) go back...even regular DSM wood might not be up to par now.

vx is that good!?

[rikki]

Today I am confused. Been skating a lot, same setup for two weeks (imagine!) but to fix a [minor] problem with my slappys, I took them off.

Sooooo of course them being off the madness said "Hey, Pssst....Ventures..." so on a whim (and wanting a bit more stabilty) I set up cast 5.6 hollows/stock reds w/flat washers...and swapped out 52mm 103a v5 STFs for 53mm v1 x99s (because my feet hurt from my shoes)...aaaaaand no change.

It felt [nearly] the same (barring the wheel duro), trucks are close in height (53.9 vs 53.5) and the V1s are probably closer to 52 by now, so board height is probably a wash...but I didn't notice any major difference in turn other than more stabilty. Weird.

It's been a minute x99->101 spit/103a stfs ->93a spit-> 103a stfs and I am (re)impressed with x99s the bark is way better than I remember.

Throwing it out there once again: best wheel ever?

[Ozu50]

Hello everyone,

Let me start this off by prefacing that I pretty much only skate 8.38 somewhat mellow boards with Thunders, hence the silly question.

I've got myself a pair of 149 stage XIs and a pair of 5.8 V-Lights to match with a mellow Toy board and a steeper Alltimers deck, both 8.5s but the Alltimers is a hair longer in both length and wb.

I'm currently trying to figure out the best possible combinations to end up having a nice tranny setup and a chunkier deck for whenever I feel like skating the taller hubbas and down rails at my local and am curious to know what you'd do!

[Gleefull508]

Hello everyone,

Let me start this off by prefacing that I pretty much only skate 8.38 somewhat mellow boards with Thunders, hence the silly question.

I've got myself a pair of 149 stage XIs and a pair of 5.8 V-Lights to match with a mellow Toy board and a steeper Alltimers deck, both 8.5s but the Alltimers is a hair longer in both length and wb.

I'm currently trying to figure out the best possible combinations to end up having a nice tranny setup and a chunkier deck for whenever I feel like skating the taller hubbas and down rails at my local and am curious to know what you'd do!

My opinion is dont use 3 different setups its just gonna mess you up. but if you just doing it for fun and something different to spice things up then go for it. indys on the longer board

[Xen]

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Today I am confused. Been skating a lot, same setup for two weeks (imagine!) but to fix a [minor] problem with my slappys, I took them off.

Sooooo of course them being off the madness said "Hey, Pssst....Ventures..." so on a whim (and wanting a bit more stabilty) I set up cast 5.6 hollows/stock reds w/flat washers...and swapped out 52mm 103a v5 STFs for 53mm v1 x99s (because my feet hurt from my shoes)...aaaaaand no change.

It felt [nearly] the same (barring the wheel duro), trucks are close in height (53.9 vs 53.5) and the V1s are probably closer to 52 by now, so board height is probably a wash...but I didn't notice any major difference in turn other than more stabilty. Weird.

It's been a minute x99->101 spit/103a stfs ->93a spit-> 103a stfs and I am (re)impressed with x99s the bark is way better than I remember.

[close]

i relate.


my current confusion/madness:

found a setup that i really like. still skating meh, but the board feels nice. my confused consumerism is telling me to buy a few more of the deck, and a lighter version of the trucks, slightly smaller set of the wheels.
i could just not. we’ll see.

[close]

I don't see any of that being 'wrong' unless you are sitting on a ton of gear. If you think lighter parts will help, maybe it will (or won't ).

Is the deck hard to come by? If yes, grab one, if no...don't. They you will want to set it up well before the old one is done =D

I'm in a similar boat with the twin VX deck I'm riding (they are getting a bit scarce but the next drop is about to hit, then I'll decide); 'least it's a twin so the wear is super even and it isn't going to sog out anytime soon. Worst part is my madness was right on the money with board feel (VX/DSM/Crail vs BBS/PS), stepped on a few of the homies boards and one I have setup, all BSS...and man what a difference. Not sure I can (or want to) go back...even regular DSM wood might not be up to par now.

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vx is that good!?

If you like stiff/crispy wood (which I have since the P2 days) then yes; it makes everything else feel waterlogged/dead.

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Today I am confused. Been skating a lot, same setup for two weeks (imagine!) but to fix a [minor] problem with my slappys, I took them off.

Sooooo of course them being off the madness said "Hey, Pssst....Ventures..." so on a whim (and wanting a bit more stabilty) I set up cast 5.6 hollows/stock reds w/flat washers...and swapped out 52mm 103a v5 STFs for 53mm v1 x99s (because my feet hurt from my shoes)...aaaaaand no change.

It felt [nearly] the same (barring the wheel duro), trucks are close in height (53.9 vs 53.5) and the V1s are probably closer to 52 by now, so board height is probably a wash...but I didn't notice any major difference in turn other than more stabilty. Weird.

It's been a minute x99->101 spit/103a stfs ->93a spit-> 103a stfs and I am (re)impressed with x99s the bark is way better than I remember.

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i relate.


my current confusion/madness:

found a setup that i really like. still skating meh, but the board feels nice. my confused consumerism is telling me to buy a few more of the deck, and a lighter version of the trucks, slightly smaller set of the wheels.
i could just not. we’ll see.

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I don't see any of that being 'wrong' unless you are sitting on a ton of gear. If you think lighter parts will help, maybe it will (or won't ).

Is the deck hard to come by? If yes, grab one, if no...don't. They you will want to set it up well before the old one is done =D

I'm in a similar boat with the twin VX deck I'm riding (they are getting a bit scarce but the next drop is about to hit, then I'll decide); 'least it's a twin so the wear is super even and it isn't going to sog out anytime soon. Worst part is my madness was right on the money with board feel (VX/DSM/Crail vs BBS/PS), stepped on a few of the homies boards and one I have setup, all BSS...and man what a difference. Not sure I can (or want to) go back...even regular DSM wood might not be up to par now.

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vx is that good!?

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If you like stiff/crispy wood (which I have since the P2 days) then yes; it makes everything else feel waterlogged/dead.

damn.
stiff boards for me, end up being the best, or the worst, and sometimes both of those distinctions pop up in the same session. maybe a better way for me to express it would be that something about the super stiff led to a difference in the pop timing? or something around there, and i’d either whiff in a way that was shocking, or crack the highest nollie of my life.

i’ve managed to stay away from the composite boards for the last 10+ years, in part because i’ve never really been drawn to the shapes on them.
what’s your fave vx shape?

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Today I am confused. Been skating a lot, same setup for two weeks (imagine!) but to fix a [minor] problem with my slappys, I took them off.

Sooooo of course them being off the madness said "Hey, Pssst....Ventures..." so on a whim (and wanting a bit more stabilty) I set up cast 5.6 hollows/stock reds w/flat washers...and swapped out 52mm 103a v5 STFs for 53mm v1 x99s (because my feet hurt from my shoes)...aaaaaand no change.

It felt [nearly] the same (barring the wheel duro), trucks are close in height (53.9 vs 53.5) and the V1s are probably closer to 52 by now, so board height is probably a wash...but I didn't notice any major difference in turn other than more stabilty. Weird.

It's been a minute x99->101 spit/103a stfs ->93a spit-> 103a stfs and I am (re)impressed with x99s the bark is way better than I remember.

[close]

i relate.


my current confusion/madness:

found a setup that i really like. still skating meh, but the board feels nice. my confused consumerism is telling me to buy a few more of the deck, and a lighter version of the trucks, slightly smaller set of the wheels.
i could just not. we’ll see.

[close]

I don't see any of that being 'wrong' unless you are sitting on a ton of gear. If you think lighter parts will help, maybe it will (or won't ).

Is the deck hard to come by? If yes, grab one, if no...don't. They you will want to set it up well before the old one is done =D

I'm in a similar boat with the twin VX deck I'm riding (they are getting a bit scarce but the next drop is about to hit, then I'll decide); 'least it's a twin so the wear is super even and it isn't going to sog out anytime soon. Worst part is my madness was right on the money with board feel (VX/DSM/Crail vs BBS/PS), stepped on a few of the homies boards and one I have setup, all BSS...and man what a difference. Not sure I can (or want to) go back...even regular DSM wood might not be up to par now.

[close]

vx is that good!?

[close]

If you like stiff/crispy wood (which I have since the P2 days) then yes; it makes everything else feel waterlogged/dead.

[close]

damn.
stiff boards for me, end up being the best, or the worst, and sometimes both of those distinctions pop up in the same session. maybe a better way for me to express it would be that something about the super stiff led to a difference in the pop timing? or something around there, and i’d either whiff in a way that was shocking, or crack the highest nollie of my life.

i’ve managed to stay away from the composite boards for the last 10+ years, in part because i’ve never really been drawn to the shapes on them.
what’s your fave vx shape?

It's all about the pop with these for me - super loud crack on the snap - I wouldn't skate one if I was a manual skater tho (unless free) easy razor tail. Better shape and less flexy than Flights.

SC-365 (It's McCoy's shape, Asp skates it as well). It's nearly identical to the new 8.25" DW Foy (more mellow all around).

Medium Concave/Twin/rounded/full

8.25 x 31.83
14.22WB
6.71 kicks (on the steeper side but not crazy)

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Today I am confused. Been skating a lot, same setup for two weeks (imagine!) but to fix a [minor] problem with my slappys, I took them off.

Sooooo of course them being off the madness said "Hey, Pssst....Ventures..." so on a whim (and wanting a bit more stabilty) I set up cast 5.6 hollows/stock reds w/flat washers...and swapped out 52mm 103a v5 STFs for 53mm v1 x99s (because my feet hurt from my shoes)...aaaaaand no change.

It felt [nearly] the same (barring the wheel duro), trucks are close in height (53.9 vs 53.5) and the V1s are probably closer to 52 by now, so board height is probably a wash...but I didn't notice any major difference in turn other than more stabilty. Weird.

It's been a minute x99->101 spit/103a stfs ->93a spit-> 103a stfs and I am (re)impressed with x99s the bark is way better than I remember.

[close]

i relate.


my current confusion/madness:

found a setup that i really like. still skating meh, but the board feels nice. my confused consumerism is telling me to buy a few more of the deck, and a lighter version of the trucks, slightly smaller set of the wheels.
i could just not. we’ll see.

[close]

I don't see any of that being 'wrong' unless you are sitting on a ton of gear. If you think lighter parts will help, maybe it will (or won't ).

Is the deck hard to come by? If yes, grab one, if no...don't. They you will want to set it up well before the old one is done =D

I'm in a similar boat with the twin VX deck I'm riding (they are getting a bit scarce but the next drop is about to hit, then I'll decide); 'least it's a twin so the wear is super even and it isn't going to sog out anytime soon. Worst part is my madness was right on the money with board feel (VX/DSM/Crail vs BBS/PS), stepped on a few of the homies boards and one I have setup, all BSS...and man what a difference. Not sure I can (or want to) go back...even regular DSM wood might not be up to par now.

[close]

vx is that good!?

[close]

If you like stiff/crispy wood (which I have since the P2 days) then yes; it makes everything else feel waterlogged/dead.

[close]

damn.
stiff boards for me, end up being the best, or the worst, and sometimes both of those distinctions pop up in the same session. maybe a better way for me to express it would be that something about the super stiff led to a difference in the pop timing? or something around there, and i’d either whiff in a way that was shocking, or crack the highest nollie of my life.

i’ve managed to stay away from the composite boards for the last 10+ years, in part because i’ve never really been drawn to the shapes on them.
what’s your fave vx shape?

[close]

It's all about the pop with these for me - super loud crack on the snap - I wouldn't skate one if I was a manual skater tho (unless free) easy razor tail. Better shape and less flexy than Flights.

SC-365 (It's McCoy's shape, Asp skates it as well). It's nearly identical to the new 8.25" DW Foy (more mellow all around).

Medium Concave/Twin/rounded/full

8.25 x 31.83
14.22WB
6.71 kicks (on the steeper side but not crazy)

specs look good
put hands on a foy twin at the shop, cannot remember the width, but the shape looked nice

[Xen]

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Today I am confused. Been skating a lot, same setup for two weeks (imagine!) but to fix a [minor] problem with my slappys, I took them off.

Sooooo of course them being off the madness said "Hey, Pssst....Ventures..." so on a whim (and wanting a bit more stabilty) I set up cast 5.6 hollows/stock reds w/flat washers...and swapped out 52mm 103a v5 STFs for 53mm v1 x99s (because my feet hurt from my shoes)...aaaaaand no change.

It felt [nearly] the same (barring the wheel duro), trucks are close in height (53.9 vs 53.5) and the V1s are probably closer to 52 by now, so board height is probably a wash...but I didn't notice any major difference in turn other than more stabilty. Weird.

It's been a minute x99->101 spit/103a stfs ->93a spit-> 103a stfs and I am (re)impressed with x99s the bark is way better than I remember.

[close]

i relate.


my current confusion/madness:

found a setup that i really like. still skating meh, but the board feels nice. my confused consumerism is telling me to buy a few more of the deck, and a lighter version of the trucks, slightly smaller set of the wheels.
i could just not. we’ll see.

[close]

I don't see any of that being 'wrong' unless you are sitting on a ton of gear. If you think lighter parts will help, maybe it will (or won't ).

Is the deck hard to come by? If yes, grab one, if no...don't. They you will want to set it up well before the old one is done =D

I'm in a similar boat with the twin VX deck I'm riding (they are getting a bit scarce but the next drop is about to hit, then I'll decide); 'least it's a twin so the wear is super even and it isn't going to sog out anytime soon. Worst part is my madness was right on the money with board feel (VX/DSM/Crail vs BBS/PS), stepped on a few of the homies boards and one I have setup, all BSS...and man what a difference. Not sure I can (or want to) go back...even regular DSM wood might not be up to par now.

[close]

vx is that good!?

[close]

If you like stiff/crispy wood (which I have since the P2 days) then yes; it makes everything else feel waterlogged/dead.

[close]

damn.
stiff boards for me, end up being the best, or the worst, and sometimes both of those distinctions pop up in the same session. maybe a better way for me to express it would be that something about the super stiff led to a difference in the pop timing? or something around there, and i’d either whiff in a way that was shocking, or crack the highest nollie of my life.

i’ve managed to stay away from the composite boards for the last 10+ years, in part because i’ve never really been drawn to the shapes on them.
what’s your fave vx shape?

[close]

It's all about the pop with these for me - super loud crack on the snap - I wouldn't skate one if I was a manual skater tho (unless free) easy razor tail. Better shape and less flexy than Flights.

SC-365 (It's McCoy's shape, Asp skates it as well). It's nearly identical to the new 8.25" DW Foy (more mellow all around).

Medium Concave/Twin/rounded/full

8.25 x 31.83
14.22WB
6.71 kicks (on the steeper side but not crazy)

[close]

specs look good
put hands on a foy twin at the shop, cannot remember the width, but the shape looked nice

The best thing about the foy twins (and this specific Santa cruz) is that there is nothing special about the shape at all (compared to say, the SSect twins opera or even the crail twins). It's just 'normal' like taking a blue eagle and twinifying it.

[swongolianbbq]

For a purely mini ramp/vert setup, would heavier trucks be better cause they have more momentum?

My normal shit is

Ace hollows
Spitfire 99s
Six balls

Thinking for the fastest mini setup I should do

Regular aces
Spitfire 101s
Ceramics

Thoughts?