Gear madness support thread

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I personally prefer classics over a square edge wheel for pinched grinds on sharp ledges, and round rails (crooked grinds, 180 nosegrinds etc). Feels like more wheel is making contact with the ledge and I'm able to sit on the grind with a little more stability.

But if the ledge is really rough and rounded, or I'm skating a really wide pipe style flatbar, I feel like square edge wheels pinch and hold you in a bit better whereas classics have a tendency to slip out into noseslide/tailslide or whatever.

Don't think its as clear cut as locking in on a 5050 or something where the difference is much more straightforward

are wheels your only remaining….unsettled equipment choice? like are you good on deck trucks?
it’s interesting because i used to be: ‘wheels are wheels’, mostly.
and now im some really weird trip where i am trying to skate larger wheels, and so the board and trucks need to be larger as well blah blah blah

[tzhangdox]

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I personally prefer classics over a square edge wheel for pinched grinds on sharp ledges, and round rails (crooked grinds, 180 nosegrinds etc). Feels like more wheel is making contact with the ledge and I'm able to sit on the grind with a little more stability.

But if the ledge is really rough and rounded, or I'm skating a really wide pipe style flatbar, I feel like square edge wheels pinch and hold you in a bit better whereas classics have a tendency to slip out into noseslide/tailslide or whatever.

Don't think its as clear cut as locking in on a 5050 or something where the difference is much more straightforward

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are wheels your only remaining….unsettled equipment choice? like are you good on deck trucks?
it’s interesting because i used to be: ‘wheels are wheels’, mostly.
and now im some really weird trip where i am trying to skate larger wheels, and so the board and trucks need to be larger as well blah blah blah

Lmao kind of. My madness was never that crazy (compared to others on this board), basically 14.25-14.5wb, any of the big 4 truck brands work, each with pros n cons. No super steep/square/pointy kicks. Solid cupsoles that are wide near the back and have good arch support.

Nowadays I've settled on the April 8.5, venture 5.8 cast hollows, and Jordan 1 highs with superfeet insoles and tiagos (still have some other random shoes I need to burn through first)...

So feels like all my madness has gone to wheel shape which, as much as I think about it, is splitting hairs for the most part.

Formula 4 99a works best for me. On some 55 classics right now. I think something like a 53-54 radial would be the perfect wheel for me, but I have too many random f4s I need to burn through first.

(if anybody wants to trade some new radials for new 53 classics or 54 conical fulls, hmu)

[Sedition]

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Better for locking in on a crooked grind, especially if conical shaped vs classic.

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I would say the exact opposite. Same with Smith, Feeble, etc.

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Would you also say that a tool with a rounded surface is better for mountain climbing than an edged tool?

This question presupposes knowledge about mountain climbing, of which, I have none.

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current madness/shit i’m thinking about buying:

ace classic 55s
lavender ave’s
ti ventures
54 radial fulls
55 radials
buying more of the current deck i’ve got now (sort of anti madness).

[Bongwater Mojito]

Can't get the idea of combining Venture Ti hangers with regular cast baseplates out of my head. I think I need to try that whenever I'll refresh my trucks. I've understood the cast baseplate is little bit shorter in terms of wheelbase, that combined to the 2mm added height tempts me. Also I think the grind feel/sound is different. Haven't had a cast bp in years, can't even remember how it feels. It just feels stupid to buy two sets of trucks for this kind of experiment...

[Frank and Fred]

current madness/shit i’m thinking about buying:

ace classic 55s
lavender ave’s
ti ventures
54 radial fulls
55 radials
buying more of the current deck i’ve got now (sort of anti madness).

Need some help?

Get some Ace Classic 55s and Radial 55s and you'll be more than fine. 5 is  magic skateboarding number.

[Firebert]

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Better for locking in on a crooked grind, especially if conical shaped vs classic.

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I would say the exact opposite. Same with Smith, Feeble, etc.

So you would say a classic locks in better than lock-ins?

[Sedition]

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Better for locking in on a crooked grind, especially if conical shaped vs classic.

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I would say the exact opposite. Same with Smith, Feeble, etc.

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So you would say a classic locks in better than lock-ins?

Smiths, feebles, etc, absolutely. 50/50s, no.

[rikki]

current madness/shit i’m thinking about buying:

ace classic 55s
lavender ave’s
ti ventures
54 radial fulls
55 radials
buying more of the current deck i’ve got now (sort of anti madness).

55 Radials are fantastic wheels for bowl skating in my experience. And for many other types of skating, too, of course. But they are my number one hard tranny gnar wheel of choice.

[tzhangdox]

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Better for locking in on a crooked grind, especially if conical shaped vs classic.

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I would say the exact opposite. Same with Smith, Feeble, etc.

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So you would say a classic locks in better than lock-ins?

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Smiths, feebles, etc, absolutely. 50/50s, no.

If you cross pinch a 5050 on a round bar with classics you get a lil less squeal and drag than if you do the same on lock ins.

Lock ins feel way better if you're doing double heel pinch though

[CarcassToss]

Can't get the idea of combining Venture Ti hangers with regular cast baseplates out of my head. I think I need to try that whenever I'll refresh my trucks. I've understood the cast baseplate is little bit shorter in terms of wheelbase, that combined to the 2mm added height tempts me. Also I think the grind feel/sound is different. Haven't had a cast bp in years, can't even remember how it feels. It just feels stupid to buy two sets of trucks for this kind of experiment...

I've lurked for a long time and before there were full hollow Ventures I think a lot of people did this to get a lighter truck. The P Rod ti Ventures were cheap/plentiful for a while to get the hangers. Not sure it's any lighter than the V Cast Hollows that are really common now.

[Firebert]

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Better for locking in on a crooked grind, especially if conical shaped vs classic.

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I would say the exact opposite. Same with Smith, Feeble, etc.

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So you would say a classic locks in better than lock-ins?

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Smiths, feebles, etc, absolutely. 50/50s, no.

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If you cross pinch a 5050 on a round bar with classics you get a lil less squeal and drag than if you do the same on lock ins.

Lock ins feel way better if you're doing double heel pinch though

Less drag for sure with classics, due to the shape. Also more prone to slip off the ledge or rail due to the shape. However you are more locked in with a straight edge wheel, regardless of which trick you’re doing. Jack Olson talks about modifying his setup this way to make that gnarly kickflip feeble in his after hours part.

Easy example: If you skate a pool coping, you’ll notice that with classics, they’re more prone to pull you up on the deck, the convex edge of the wheel will climb up the coping and release you more easily than a straight edge. Great for alleviating hangups, but not the better for locking in.

[tzhangdox]

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Better for locking in on a crooked grind, especially if conical shaped vs classic.

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I would say the exact opposite. Same with Smith, Feeble, etc.

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So you would say a classic locks in better than lock-ins?

[close]

Smiths, feebles, etc, absolutely. 50/50s, no.

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If you cross pinch a 5050 on a round bar with classics you get a lil less squeal and drag than if you do the same on lock ins.

Lock ins feel way better if you're doing double heel pinch though

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Less drag for sure with classics, due to the shape. Also more prone to slip off the ledge or rail due to the shape. However you are more locked in with a straight edge wheel, regardless of which trick you’re doing. Jack Olson talks about modifying his setup this way to make that gnarly kickflip feeble in his after hours part.

Easy example: If you skate a pool coping, you’ll notice that with classics, they’re more prone to pull you up on the deck, the convex edge of the wheel will climb up the coping and release you more easily than a straight edge. Great for alleviating hangups, but not the better for locking in.

Yeah thats generally true. But for me personally there are tricks that I find lock in better, or are easier to sit in, on rounded wheels vs square edge wheels. Namely any pinched grinds on sharp ledges and also stuff like crooks, suskis n stuff on round rails for some reason.

Definitely preferred my 55 classics over 55 og classics, the last two wheels I've skated. On the og classics on a sharp ledge it felt like there was only a sharp edge of the sidewall making contact with the ledge whereas on classics there was a bit more surface area making contact on a pinch, felt a lil more comfortable



If you look at this pic (i just googled crooked grind pinch lol) I think it might make sense. If you had say a tablet wheel in this pinch, there would be a sharper edge and less wheel surface area sitting on top of the ledge... whereas with the classic there's some sidewall contact that makes it a little more comfortable to sit on (assuming the ledge is sharp enough)

This is also assuming that I'm riding wheels that aren't too small, if we're talking very worn wheels, 50mm 51mm etc, then yeah classics lock much worse. But once we're in the 53-55mm territory that I've been skating, I feel like I'm getting more benefits when it comes to locking in and sitting on grinds vs drawbacks when I run round wheels vs if I was on square wheels.

Unless I'm skating a really rounded worn down ledge in which case square wheels are muchhh better.

Radials for me probably perfect middle ground but never tried em

[Frank and Fred]

By the end of the year, I want to be riding updated new version of Thunder 151s, reformulated 55mm 97a F4s, on a wheel-welled Huffer in some Hemp/ Synthetic Grasshoppers.

and then,

I am sure my life will be complete. 

[Xen]

By the end of the year, I want to be riding updated new version of Thunder 151s, reformulated 55mm 97a F4s, on a wheel-welled Huffer in some Hemp/ Synthetic Grasshoppers.

and then,

I am sure my life will be complete. 

Barring the size preferences, I'm with you.

[moonordie]

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Better for locking in on a crooked grind, especially if conical shaped vs classic.

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I would say the exact opposite. Same with Smith, Feeble, etc.

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So you would say a classic locks in better than lock-ins?

[close]

Smiths, feebles, etc, absolutely. 50/50s, no.

[close]

If you cross pinch a 5050 on a round bar with classics you get a lil less squeal and drag than if you do the same on lock ins.

Lock ins feel way better if you're doing double heel pinch though

[close]

Less drag for sure with classics, due to the shape. Also more prone to slip off the ledge or rail due to the shape. However you are more locked in with a straight edge wheel, regardless of which trick you’re doing. Jack Olson talks about modifying his setup this way to make that gnarly kickflip feeble in his after hours part.

Easy example: If you skate a pool coping, you’ll notice that with classics, they’re more prone to pull you up on the deck, the convex edge of the wheel will climb up the coping and release you more easily than a straight edge. Great for alleviating hangups, but not the better for locking in.

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Yeah thats generally true. But for me personally there are tricks that I find lock in better, or are easier to sit in, on rounded wheels vs square edge wheels. Namely any pinched grinds on sharp ledges and also stuff like crooks, suskis n stuff on round rails for some reason.

Definitely preferred my 55 classics over 55 og classics, the last two wheels I've skated. On the og classics on a sharp ledge it felt like there was only a sharp edge of the sidewall making contact with the ledge whereas on classics there was a bit more surface area making contact on a pinch, felt a lil more comfortable



If you look at this pic (i just googled crooked grind pinch lol) I think it might make sense. If you had say a tablet wheel in this pinch, there would be a sharper edge and less wheel surface area sitting on top of the ledge... whereas with the classic there's some sidewall contact that makes it a little more comfortable to sit on (assuming the ledge is sharp enough)

This is also assuming that I'm riding wheels that aren't too small, if we're talking very worn wheels, 50mm 51mm etc, then yeah classics lock much worse. But once we're in the 53-55mm territory that I've been skating, I feel like I'm getting more benefits when it comes to locking in and sitting on grinds vs drawbacks when I run round wheels vs if I was on square wheels.

Unless I'm skating a really rounded worn down ledge in which case square wheels are muchhh better.

Radials for me probably perfect middle ground but never tried em

Currently I'm skating Radials (99 53mm) and they're the truth.

[Firebert]

I can tell you that I only ride conical fulls and OG classics is because they made crooks way easier for me, if classics made em easier, I’d use them 100% of the time, they look way better on ACE (sorry, I don’t have any recent street clips to show a rounded ledge.)

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cnsmgz6Ide0/?igsh=N29zcXB0aTB1ZDh2ff
 

[Sedition]

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Better for locking in on a crooked grind, especially if conical shaped vs classic.

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I would say the exact opposite. Same with Smith, Feeble, etc.

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So you would say a classic locks in better than lock-ins?

[close]

Smiths, feebles, etc, absolutely. 50/50s, no.

[close]

If you cross pinch a 5050 on a round bar with classics you get a lil less squeal and drag than if you do the same on lock ins.

Lock ins feel way better if you're doing double heel pinch though

[close]

Less drag for sure with classics, due to the shape. Also more prone to slip off the ledge or rail due to the shape. However you are more locked in with a straight edge wheel, regardless of which trick you’re doing. Jack Olson talks about modifying his setup this way to make that gnarly kickflip feeble in his after hours part.

Easy example: If you skate a pool coping, you’ll notice that with classics, they’re more prone to pull you up on the deck, the convex edge of the wheel will climb up the coping and release you more easily than a straight edge. Great for alleviating hangups, but not the better for locking in.

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Yeah thats generally true. But for me personally there are tricks that I find lock in better, or are easier to sit in, on rounded wheels vs square edge wheels. Namely any pinched grinds on sharp ledges and also stuff like crooks, suskis n stuff on round rails for some reason.

Definitely preferred my 55 classics over 55 og classics, the last two wheels I've skated. On the og classics on a sharp ledge it felt like there was only a sharp edge of the sidewall making contact with the ledge whereas on classics there was a bit more surface area making contact on a pinch, felt a lil more comfortable



If you look at this pic (i just googled crooked grind pinch lol) I think it might make sense. If you had say a tablet wheel in this pinch, there would be a sharper edge and less wheel surface area sitting on top of the ledge... whereas with the classic there's some sidewall contact that makes it a little more comfortable to sit on (assuming the ledge is sharp enough)

This is also assuming that I'm riding wheels that aren't too small, if we're talking very worn wheels, 50mm 51mm etc, then yeah classics lock much worse. But once we're in the 53-55mm territory that I've been skating, I feel like I'm getting more benefits when it comes to locking in and sitting on grinds vs drawbacks when I run round wheels vs if I was on square wheels.

Unless I'm skating a really rounded worn down ledge in which case square wheels are muchhh better.

Radials for me probably perfect middle ground but never tried em

1000% This. And Ben D. backs this theory, too. I do tons of feeble and smith grinds. Squared-off wheels feel like I'm dragging a sharp edge across something (e.g. during a feeble), and it sometimes catches and bucks. Whereas a Classic feels more like proper "fit" (e.g. the pinch pic above). Moreover, squared-off wheels feel like they require me to be more on top of the curb, ledge, rail, etc during a feeble, and Classics allow more of a "side" sit, which works/feels way better for me. In my experience, Classics are far superior for any pinch type grind (hurricane, feeble, smith, krook) type grind.

"Your millage, of course, may vary."   

EDIT: This pic is also sending my OCD off the charts because of the green, gold, and red hardware color mix.

[tzhangdox]

I can tell you that I only ride conical fulls and OG classics is because they made crooks way easier for me, if classics made em easier, I’d use them 100% of the time, they look way better on ACE (sorry, I don’t have any recent street clips to show a rounded ledge.)

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cnsmgz6Ide0/?igsh=N29zcXB0aTB1ZDh2ff

lmao i dont doubt you dude, nice crook

My preference for wheel shape with the most comfortable lock in is just different on certain obstacles, your mileage may vary. Also I ride ventures, venture hangers articulate much much less than ace, so that might be a factor in how the sidewall of a wheel makes contact with the ledge/curb/rail... idk

Do I really have to dig up a bunch of clips of me doing pinched grinds to prove I'm not pulling this out my ass... if I absolutely must then I will lol

[MMongrel]

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I can tell you that I only ride conical fulls and OG classics is because they made crooks way easier for me, if classics made em easier, I’d use them 100% of the time, they look way better on ACE (sorry, I don’t have any recent street clips to show a rounded ledge.)

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cnsmgz6Ide0/?igsh=N29zcXB0aTB1ZDh2ff

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lmao i dont doubt you dude, nice crook

My preference for wheel shape with the most comfortable lock in is just different on certain obstacles, your mileage may vary. Also I ride ventures, venture hangers articulate much much less than ace, so that might be a factor

Do I really have to dig up a bunch of clips of me doing pinched grinds to prove I'm not bullshitting... but if I absolutely must then I will lol

Please do! I need some crooks inspiration. I'm absolutely dogshit at 'em but after switching from Thunders and a Classic style wheel to Aces and big Conical Fulls I feel like I'm really locked in on them comfortably for the first time. It also could definitely be a skill issue.

[roba]

@Firebert tips on those crook pop overs? crooked grinds are my most consistent grind outside of 50-50s and i can pop out from ledges and rails very easily but only back to the same side i got on from. i'd love to learn these since i feel like they could help with fs nosegrind pop outs in the middle of the ledge, that's a bucket list trick but i feel like a crooked grind should be easier to learn, for me at least.

[CarcassToss]

I'm not the person you asked but pop overs it helps to approach more at an angle to the ledge and really lean way the fuck over your front foot. For me it's almost like the body position where I'd wanna come out fakie, more of an angle to the ledge and after you pinch you wanna slide your back foot a little forward to be able to lift it when you pop.

The way I learned them was to do them out of slappies and pop up onto the curb. You might hang up a few times but it feels less scary.

[tzhangdox]

you also didn't ask me haha and i rarely ever do these but it helps to start shifting your weight to the other side while youre grinding the crook, and really give it that nudge and transfer only as your body is already going towards the other side

[tzhangdox]

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I can tell you that I only ride conical fulls and OG classics is because they made crooks way easier for me, if classics made em easier, I’d use them 100% of the time, they look way better on ACE (sorry, I don’t have any recent street clips to show a rounded ledge.)

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cnsmgz6Ide0/?igsh=N29zcXB0aTB1ZDh2ff

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lmao i dont doubt you dude, nice crook

My preference for wheel shape with the most comfortable lock in is just different on certain obstacles, your mileage may vary. Also I ride ventures, venture hangers articulate much much less than ace, so that might be a factor

Do I really have to dig up a bunch of clips of me doing pinched grinds to prove I'm not bullshitting... but if I absolutely must then I will lol

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Please do! I need some crooks inspiration. I'm absolutely dogshit at 'em but after switching from Thunders and a Classic style wheel to Aces and big Conical Fulls I feel like I'm really locked in on them comfortably for the first time. It also could definitely be a skill issue.

Lol ok went thru my camera roll and found a bunch of clips that could be considered 'pinched grinds'... basically a bunch of crook/suski/180ng/salad variations on an assortment of obstacles, on assorted trucks n wheel shapes too



lotta dinks, some of em were new learns and didn't think I'd be submitting these to the wheel shape pinch committee

But yeah, for the stuff I'm skating these days, decent ledges, less obnxiously chunked out rounded ones... I definitely prefer my non tiny classics over og classics n other square wheels for crooked grinds n stuff. Plus you get other benefits like easier to climb onto slappies and less chance of getting traintracked etc

Radials probably better but I won't find out for a while

[Firebert]

Of course classics are the pick if you do slappies, no question there. Those are sick clips and we should all find reasons to post more, not to shit on anyone, but just to show the type of terrain we use our gear on. I skate mostly park, so that changes what gear I might prefer.

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I can tell you that I only ride conical fulls and OG classics is because they made crooks way easier for me, if classics made em easier, I’d use them 100% of the time, they look way better on ACE (sorry, I don’t have any recent street clips to show a rounded ledge.)

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cnsmgz6Ide0/?igsh=N29zcXB0aTB1ZDh2ff

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lmao i dont doubt you dude, nice crook

My preference for wheel shape with the most comfortable lock in is just different on certain obstacles, your mileage may vary. Also I ride ventures, venture hangers articulate much much less than ace, so that might be a factor

Do I really have to dig up a bunch of clips of me doing pinched grinds to prove I'm not bullshitting... but if I absolutely must then I will lol

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Please do! I need some crooks inspiration. I'm absolutely dogshit at 'em but after switching from Thunders and a Classic style wheel to Aces and big Conical Fulls I feel like I'm really locked in on them comfortably for the first time. It also could definitely be a skill issue.

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Lol ok went thru my camera roll and found a bunch of clips that could be considered 'pinched grinds'... basically a bunch of crook/suski/180ng/salad variations on an assortment of obstacles, on assorted trucks n wheel shapes too



lotta dinks, some of em were new learns and didn't think I'd be submitting these to the wheel shape pinch committee

But yeah, for the stuff I'm skating these days, decent ledges, less obnxiously chunked out rounded ones... I definitely prefer my non tiny classics over og classics n other square wheels for crooked grinds n stuff. Plus you get other benefits like easier to climb onto slappies and less chance of getting traintracked etc

Radials probably better but I won't find out for a while

fuck it’s probably rad to be good at skating

[tzhangdox]

Of course classics are the pick if you do slappies, no question there. Those are sick clips and we should all find reasons to post more, not to shit on anyone, but just to show the type of terrain we use our gear on. I skate mostly park, so that changes what gear I might prefer.

yeah and honestly if I ran aces my wheel shape of choice would probably be different. For slappies depends on the curb.

Classics definitely climb better on tougher curbs, but at rockridge (popular east bay curb spot) where the curbs are all tiny and bevelled, square wheels low key better because a lil easy to overshoot with classics, but I'd rather that than get denied on more regulation sized curbs.

All is to say, I don't think its super clear cut when it comes to what wheel size/shape is better for holding pinches. Depends on trucks, the obstacle youre skating and more.

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I can tell you that I only ride conical fulls and OG classics is because they made crooks way easier for me, if classics made em easier, I’d use them 100% of the time, they look way better on ACE (sorry, I don’t have any recent street clips to show a rounded ledge.)

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cnsmgz6Ide0/?igsh=N29zcXB0aTB1ZDh2ff

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lmao i dont doubt you dude, nice crook

My preference for wheel shape with the most comfortable lock in is just different on certain obstacles, your mileage may vary. Also I ride ventures, venture hangers articulate much much less than ace, so that might be a factor

Do I really have to dig up a bunch of clips of me doing pinched grinds to prove I'm not bullshitting... but if I absolutely must then I will lol

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Please do! I need some crooks inspiration. I'm absolutely dogshit at 'em but after switching from Thunders and a Classic style wheel to Aces and big Conical Fulls I feel like I'm really locked in on them comfortably for the first time. It also could definitely be a skill issue.

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Lol ok went thru my camera roll and found a bunch of clips that could be considered 'pinched grinds'... basically a bunch of crook/suski/180ng/salad variations on an assortment of obstacles, on assorted trucks n wheel shapes too



lotta dinks, some of em were new learns and didn't think I'd be submitting these to the wheel shape pinch committee

But yeah, for the stuff I'm skating these days, decent ledges, less obnxiously chunked out rounded ones... I definitely prefer my non tiny classics over og classics n other square wheels for crooked grinds n stuff. Plus you get other benefits like easier to climb onto slappies and less chance of getting traintracked etc

Radials probably better but I won't find out for a while

KILLER clips!!!

[MMongrel]

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I can tell you that I only ride conical fulls and OG classics is because they made crooks way easier for me, if classics made em easier, I’d use them 100% of the time, they look way better on ACE (sorry, I don’t have any recent street clips to show a rounded ledge.)

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cnsmgz6Ide0/?igsh=N29zcXB0aTB1ZDh2ff

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lmao i dont doubt you dude, nice crook

My preference for wheel shape with the most comfortable lock in is just different on certain obstacles, your mileage may vary. Also I ride ventures, venture hangers articulate much much less than ace, so that might be a factor

Do I really have to dig up a bunch of clips of me doing pinched grinds to prove I'm not bullshitting... but if I absolutely must then I will lol

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Please do! I need some crooks inspiration. I'm absolutely dogshit at 'em but after switching from Thunders and a Classic style wheel to Aces and big Conical Fulls I feel like I'm really locked in on them comfortably for the first time. It also could definitely be a skill issue.

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Lol ok went thru my camera roll and found a bunch of clips that could be considered 'pinched grinds'... basically a bunch of crook/suski/180ng/salad variations on an assortment of obstacles, on assorted trucks n wheel shapes too



lotta dinks, some of em were new learns and didn't think I'd be submitting these to the wheel shape pinch committee

But yeah, for the stuff I'm skating these days, decent ledges, less obnxiously chunked out rounded ones... I definitely prefer my non tiny classics over og classics n other square wheels for crooked grinds n stuff. Plus you get other benefits like easier to climb onto slappies and less chance of getting traintracked etc

Radials probably better but I won't find out for a while

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fuck it’s probably rad to be good at skating

For real. I watched it two times in a row and now I want to go skate some ledges.

[Mcidraque]

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I can tell you that I only ride conical fulls and OG classics is because they made crooks way easier for me, if classics made em easier, I’d use them 100% of the time, they look way better on ACE (sorry, I don’t have any recent street clips to show a rounded ledge.)

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cnsmgz6Ide0/?igsh=N29zcXB0aTB1ZDh2ff

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lmao i dont doubt you dude, nice crook

My preference for wheel shape with the most comfortable lock in is just different on certain obstacles, your mileage may vary. Also I ride ventures, venture hangers articulate much much less than ace, so that might be a factor

Do I really have to dig up a bunch of clips of me doing pinched grinds to prove I'm not bullshitting... but if I absolutely must then I will lol

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Please do! I need some crooks inspiration. I'm absolutely dogshit at 'em but after switching from Thunders and a Classic style wheel to Aces and big Conical Fulls I feel like I'm really locked in on them comfortably for the first time. It also could definitely be a skill issue.

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Lol ok went thru my camera roll and found a bunch of clips that could be considered 'pinched grinds'... basically a bunch of crook/suski/180ng/salad variations on an assortment of obstacles, on assorted trucks n wheel shapes too



lotta dinks, some of em were new learns and didn't think I'd be submitting these to the wheel shape pinch committee

But yeah, for the stuff I'm skating these days, decent ledges, less obnxiously chunked out rounded ones... I definitely prefer my non tiny classics over og classics n other square wheels for crooked grinds n stuff. Plus you get other benefits like easier to climb onto slappies and less chance of getting traintracked etc

Radials probably better but I won't find out for a while

great clips all around but that Gino landing around 0:53... chef kiss