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Re: Gear madness support thread
« Reply #2190 on: June 26, 2024, 09:34:57 AM »
Speaking of Indy forged -- file this under madness: I've been a sworn Awake pal for a while now and thought I'd lost my pop and many other things on Indy and would never return from Ventureland.

Well, lo and behold, just for the fun of it, I set up Indy 149 Tits paired with a 14.38 wb 8.25 (8.38 in reality) BBS deck and after a half an hour of readjusting my shit, I'm feeling like this is the best setup in a while and my pop is springy and effortless and I'm loving the turn again and whatnot.

What's the weirdest part is that I tried 144 Indy Tits some months ago and they felt like shit. Can the 149 vs. 144 difference be so all-encompassing?

Looks like Imma keep two setups for the foreseeable future: one with Indy 149s and a longer wb deck, and another with 5.6 Ventures paired with a 8.125/8.25 / 14.25 wb deck.

At least I'll keep my neural pathways at work upon switching between the two, if nothing else.

I'm having both setups as well. After skating Ventures (forged bp) with 14" wb on street and park, I tried to skate a bit of pool with my 14.25" wb wider board with Indy Ti's. On first two drop-ins I tossed at the bottom because the setup felt so off, which has been very rare for me (I suck skating transition but can usually drop-in to even tighter DIYs). Had to extend the wheelbase to 14.5" to mitigate that. Similarly, after some slappy sessions on Indys I usually have to spend one or at least half a session to get my flips back on Ventures. So it's a huge difference.

Let's see if switching to Venture cast baseplates changes this at all...
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Re: Gear madness support thread
« Reply #2191 on: June 26, 2024, 11:44:46 AM »
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Re: Gear madness support thread
« Reply #2192 on: June 26, 2024, 09:21:07 PM »
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Speaking of Indy forged -- file this under madness: I've been a sworn Awake pal for a while now and thought I'd lost my pop and many other things on Indy and would never return from Ventureland.

Well, lo and behold, just for the fun of it, I set up Indy 149 Tits paired with a 14.38 wb 8.25 (8.38 in reality) BBS deck and after a half an hour of readjusting my shit, I'm feeling like this is the best setup in a while and my pop is springy and effortless and I'm loving the turn again and whatnot.

What's the weirdest part is that I tried 144 Indy Tits some months ago and they felt like shit. Can the 149 vs. 144 difference be so all-encompassing?

Looks like Imma keep two setups for the foreseeable future: one with Indy 149s and a longer wb deck, and another with 5.6 Ventures paired with a 8.125/8.25 / 14.25 wb deck.

At least I'll keep my neural pathways at work upon switching between the two, if nothing else.
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I'm having both setups as well. After skating Ventures (forged bp) with 14" wb on street and park, I tried to skate a bit of pool with my 14.25" wb wider board with Indy Ti's. On first two drop-ins I tossed at the bottom because the setup felt so off, which has been very rare for me (I suck skating transition but can usually drop-in to even tighter DIYs). Had to extend the wheelbase to 14.5" to mitigate that. Similarly, after some slappy sessions on Indys I usually have to spend one or at least half a session to get my flips back on Ventures. So it's a huge difference.

Let's see if switching to Venture cast baseplates changes this at all...


will indy 144 works well with april boards? currently using 8.375 mariano deck with 148 thunder standards. thinking to get indy 144 hollow/forged hollow, i wonder how much off my timings will be. wheels now F4 53mm CF.

cross-posting my post i guess i might've going to try 149 then. going to skate lotsa more skateparks soon i guess my Thunder standards now not as feeling as good, also hollow trucks for lighter setup.

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Re: Gear madness support thread
« Reply #2193 on: June 28, 2024, 10:01:48 PM »
uh idk if this is the place but i got my own company of decks!
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Re: Gear madness support thread
« Reply #2194 on: July 03, 2024, 08:43:30 PM »
Alright pals I need some guidance. I skate standard venture trucks with 53mm spitfire classics. In theory, a shorter wheelbase board would work well with venture. However even something like a 14.25 wb feels unstable to me. I want to find that sweet spot of comfort/maneuverability and I’m having a hard time. I am 5’10 and skate 8.5. When I switch to an 14.5 wheelbase I feel more stable but it’s a chore getting that thing off the ground. Any insight that y’all have would be really helpful. 

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Re: Gear madness support thread
« Reply #2195 on: July 03, 2024, 09:23:08 PM »
Alright pals I need some guidance. I skate standard venture trucks with 53mm spitfire classics. In theory, a shorter wheelbase board would work well with venture. However even something like a 14.25 wb feels unstable to me. I want to find that sweet spot of comfort/maneuverability and I’m having a hard time. I am 5’10 and skate 8.5. When I switch to an 14.5 wheelbase I feel more stable but it’s a chore getting that thing off the ground. Any insight that y’all have would be really helpful.

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Re: Gear madness support thread
« Reply #2196 on: July 03, 2024, 09:49:00 PM »
I’ll see if I can find something similar in an 8.5

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Re: Gear madness support thread
« Reply #2197 on: July 04, 2024, 04:46:04 AM »
Alright pals, this is gonna be a long, utterly uninteresting post about my madness. Bear with me. Or don’t, I won’t blame you.

First of all, the reason why I’ve been experiencing this bout of madness (and why I haven’t posted in a good 6 months or so) is that I started my dream job in January and became a first-time dad in March. Those things are obviously what truly matters, and my skateboarding sanity is a very small thing to give up for them. I nonetheless hope that this thread is a safe space for my petty ramblings about deck shapes and wheel size. Second of all, I’ve naturally had very little time to spend on my board and won’t have much for the foreseeable future, and upwards of 90% of my madness is due to that. If I skated more, I’d be more in sync with my setup and wouldn’t feel the need to change anything. Skating more simply isn’t an option right now, though – but what I can do is scour the internet for new gear that might be in my wheelhouse and think about how I could tweak my setup to better fit my needs. And that’s what I’ve been doing for a good while now, with no end in sight.

Let me back up a little: Two years ago I got back to skating after about 17 years off the board. After a little experimenting with the new gear options that came about during my absence I settled on the Ishod 8.5“ twin with Venture 5.8 hollows and softer formula 54mm wheels with wide contact patches as my main setup. At 6’2“ and 200lb with a background in powerlifting I’m tall-ish, heavy-ish and brutish for a skater, and I very much enjoy the stability that pairing the 14.5“ wheelbase with Ventures gives me. My preference for large riding surfaces and softer duros also stems from that; I have zero finesse and struggle to properly set up for anything if the ride is even a little bumpy.
I’ve strayed from that setup, mostly out of curiosity, with varying degrees of success, but always came back after a short while. There are a couple of definitives I’ve been able to come down with:

- Anything narrower than 8.5“ is out of the question due to my big ass feet.
- Decks can’t be shorter than 32“ due to my height.
- I prefer fuller kicks, but don’t mind eggs as long as they don’t taper below the equivalent of semi-full popsicle kicks.
- I like my concave (but not necessarily the kicks) semi-steep.
- Riding surface can’t be below 20mm.

So far, so good. But here’s the source of my current madness: Bigger wheels (>56mm) give me the best overall ride on my board, and I get great pop for ollies and onto tall ledges. Practically all aspects of my skating improve or at least feel better on bigger wheels, so I would very much like to have them on my regular setup – but there’s one aspect that suffers: my flip game. And flipping my board is still the most magical feeling of all to me. So magical that I don’t want to cede a single one of my hard-won flip tricks. Which leaves me pondering the following questions:

- Why exactly do my flips suffer? Because I’m just not used to additional height and weight, of course. But since I don’t skate often enough to get used to it easily, is there something I can do to make the pop feel as similar as possible to my old go-to setup, just on bigger wheels?
- If there is, what exactly do I need to do? Find a deck with mellow kicks and a shorter wheelbase, and/or even switch to wheelbase-shortening trucks, e.g. Aces, to achieve a close approximation of my current pop angle?
- Would those changes be so substantial that they negate what I liked about my go-to setup in the first place? (Probably so.)

… And the one overarching million dollar question:
- Why do I focus so much on what I can’t do [well] on a particular setup when I could just suck it up and enjoy the limited time I get to spend on my board?

Huh. That was as actually quite cathartic to write up. Now tell me how I’m overthinking it and just need to go skate. THX!


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Re: Gear madness support thread
« Reply #2198 on: July 04, 2024, 06:08:43 AM »
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Alright pals I need some guidance. I skate standard venture trucks with 53mm spitfire classics. In theory, a shorter wheelbase board would work well with venture. However even something like a 14.25 wb feels unstable to me. I want to find that sweet spot of comfort/maneuverability and I’m having a hard time. I am 5’10 and skate 8.5. When I switch to an 14.5 wheelbase I feel more stable but it’s a chore getting that thing off the ground. Any insight that y’all have would be really helpful.
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DLX 8.25/14.38

I personally think this tail is too short for Venture. I like the BBS 8.38 or the Tom Know Krooked 8.5x14.38 shape a ton. I've had 2 of those now and they're real nice!

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Re: Gear madness support thread
« Reply #2199 on: July 04, 2024, 07:41:11 AM »
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Alright pals I need some guidance. I skate standard venture trucks with 53mm spitfire classics. In theory, a shorter wheelbase board would work well with venture. However even something like a 14.25 wb feels unstable to me. I want to find that sweet spot of comfort/maneuverability and I’m having a hard time. I am 5’10 and skate 8.5. When I switch to an 14.5 wheelbase I feel more stable but it’s a chore getting that thing off the ground. Any insight that y’all have would be really helpful.
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DLX 8.25/14.38
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I personally think this tail is too short for Venture. I like the BBS 8.38 or the Tom Know Krooked 8.5x14.38 shape a ton. I've had 2 of those now and they're real nice!

 
Did you pair them up with venture?

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Re: Gear madness support thread
« Reply #2200 on: July 04, 2024, 08:00:34 AM »
April 8.5. 14.4 wheelbase (close enough), longer nose works really well for me with ventures. Tail is definitely mellower than most boards and not too short, makes the pop feel much more friendly than many other 8.5 14.5 boards on ventures.

Cast hollow ventures will also make your setup a lil less hefty.

I used to skate a lot of 8.5 14.25 boards on ventures. Nice for flatground and ledges and not skating too fast, but a lil compact and cramped in many cases. 14.5 8.5 boards felt like a bit much. The April 8.5s have cured my board madness when it comes to ventures.

My guess is the mellow baker 8.5s probably feel pretty responsive compared to steeper 8.5s too.

YMMV lol

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Re: Gear madness support thread
« Reply #2201 on: July 04, 2024, 08:40:08 AM »
the griffin gass shape is an 8.5 with a 14.4ish wb, and 32.
the nose and tail are short, and that’s why i liked that board so much.

right now im skating a gx 8.25 with ventures, and recommend, a lot. their 8.5 looks nice as well, both 14.25 i think.

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Re: Gear madness support thread
« Reply #2202 on: July 04, 2024, 08:42:01 AM »
if your looking to fuel your truck madness I just posted:
- Thunder lights 149
- Thunder teams 151
- Indy forged 149
- New Royals 149 (comes with chocolate wheels and philips hardware)

All trucks are in good condition with newish bushings and no stripped axles.

https://www.depop.com/products/nicjacobs1-thunderindyroyal-truck-bundle-85-x3/


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Re: Gear madness support thread
« Reply #2203 on: July 04, 2024, 09:25:44 AM »
April 8.5. 14.4 wheelbase (close enough), longer nose works really well for me with ventures. Tail is definitely mellower than most boards and not too short, makes the pop feel much more friendly than many other 8.5 14.5 boards on ventures.

Cast hollow ventures will also make your setup a lil less hefty.

I used to skate a lot of 8.5 14.25 boards on ventures. Nice for flatground and ledges and not skating too fast, but a lil compact and cramped in many cases. 14.5 8.5 boards felt like a bit much. The April 8.5s have cured my board madness when it comes to ventures.

My guess is the mellow baker 8.5s probably feel pretty responsive compared to steeper 8.5s too.

YMMV lol

Thank you! I appreciate your insight. I totally agree with you that a 14.25 wheelbase with ventures is good for some things, but anything going fast gets to be a little sketch. What fueled this was an 8.5 Krooked 8.5/31.75/14.25 that I have been skating on most recently. On paper that seems like a great deck but it certainly wasn’t 8.5 and it actually tapered down to below 8.2. I’m wondering if I should try a different 8.5 that is a fuller shape like a quasi but still has the 14.25 wheelbase, or if I should abandon 14.25 all together. Right now the April 8.5 seems like the way to go. Do you know if that size has universal specs or can there be different 8.5s like with deluxe?

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Re: Gear madness support thread
« Reply #2204 on: July 11, 2024, 05:10:21 AM »
I've been in Thunder some for some weeks and I don't feel is a relationship that will benefit me, probably going back to Aces.
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Re: Gear madness support thread
« Reply #2205 on: July 11, 2024, 07:13:41 AM »
I'm the opposite, I went from Ace to Thunder and couldn't believe I wasted my time with Ace. I think they're the one brand I'd never skate again aside from Krux.

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Re: Gear madness support thread
« Reply #2206 on: July 13, 2024, 08:08:46 PM »
I got broke off today worse than I have in a while and it's making me want to change my entire setup.

Not that I would've avoided this injury on a different setup or anything, or maybe I would have, who knows?

I just feel like I have a total aversion to my whole setup after this slam lol. Bust my leg wide open on a kink rail. Worst shinner of my life, sitting in the ER now waiting to get stitches.

And here I am thinking about my setup.....

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Re: Gear madness support thread
« Reply #2207 on: July 13, 2024, 10:21:41 PM »
I got broke off today worse than I have in a while and it's making me want to change my entire setup.

Not that I would've avoided this injury on a different setup or anything, or maybe I would have, who knows?

I just feel like I have a total aversion to my whole setup after this slam lol. Bust my leg wide open on a kink rail. Worst shinner of my life, sitting in the ER now waiting to get stitches.

And here I am thinking about my setup.....
Hope you'll heal soon man
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Re: Gear madness support thread
« Reply #2208 on: July 13, 2024, 11:08:03 PM »
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I got broke off today worse than I have in a while and it's making me want to change my entire setup.

Not that I would've avoided this injury on a different setup or anything, or maybe I would have, who knows?

I just feel like I have a total aversion to my whole setup after this slam lol. Bust my leg wide open on a kink rail. Worst shinner of my life, sitting in the ER now waiting to get stitches.

And here I am thinking about my setup.....
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Hope you'll heal soon man

Thanks man, I appreciate the kind words.

Doctor says the stitches should be able to come out on a week or two hopefully! So not too bad.

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Re: Gear madness support thread
« Reply #2209 on: July 14, 2024, 01:05:30 AM »
I got broke off today worse than I have in a while and it's making me want to change my entire setup.

Not that I would've avoided this injury on a different setup or anything, or maybe I would have, who knows?

I just feel like I have a total aversion to my whole setup after this slam lol. Bust my leg wide open on a kink rail. Worst shinner of my life, sitting in the ER now waiting to get stitches.

And here I am thinking about my setup.....

Erf. If that was me, first thing I'd be thinking about was shin guards, not my set-up. :) That said, when I broke my leg, I tossed that entire set-up. Got exact same thing in replacement (it's my "grail"), but didn't want to be riding the actual same board I got the injury on again, so I get your sentiments. Hope you heal up quick!
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Re: Gear madness support thread
« Reply #2210 on: July 14, 2024, 03:25:11 AM »
I got broke off today worse than I have in a while and it's making me want to change my entire setup.

Not that I would've avoided this injury on a different setup or anything, or maybe I would have, who knows?

I just feel like I have a total aversion to my whole setup after this slam lol. Bust my leg wide open on a kink rail. Worst shinner of my life, sitting in the ER now waiting to get stitches.

And here I am thinking about my setup.....
Damnit man hope you're not out too long. I know what you mean tho. It's like when you get hurt riding a certain board it feels cursed.

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Re: Gear madness support thread
« Reply #2211 on: July 14, 2024, 03:47:19 AM »
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I got broke off today worse than I have in a while and it's making me want to change my entire setup.

Not that I would've avoided this injury on a different setup or anything, or maybe I would have, who knows?

I just feel like I have a total aversion to my whole setup after this slam lol. Bust my leg wide open on a kink rail. Worst shinner of my life, sitting in the ER now waiting to get stitches.

And here I am thinking about my setup.....
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Damnit man hope you're not out too long. I know what you mean tho. It's like when you get hurt riding a certain board it feels cursed.
Totally. What that happens board and shoes need to leave.
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« Reply #2212 on: July 14, 2024, 08:09:45 AM »
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I got broke off today worse than I have in a while and it's making me want to change my entire setup.

Not that I would've avoided this injury on a different setup or anything, or maybe I would have, who knows?

I just feel like I have a total aversion to my whole setup after this slam lol. Bust my leg wide open on a kink rail. Worst shinner of my life, sitting in the ER now waiting to get stitches.

And here I am thinking about my setup.....
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Erf. If that was me, first thing I'd be thinking about was shin guards, not my set-up. :) That said, when I broke my leg, I tossed that entire set-up. Got exact same thing in replacement (it's my "grail"), but didn't want to be riding the actual same board I got the injury on again, so I get your sentiments. Hope you heal up quick!

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I got broke off today worse than I have in a while and it's making me want to change my entire setup.

Not that I would've avoided this injury on a different setup or anything, or maybe I would have, who knows?

I just feel like I have a total aversion to my whole setup after this slam lol. Bust my leg wide open on a kink rail. Worst shinner of my life, sitting in the ER now waiting to get stitches.

And here I am thinking about my setup.....
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Damnit man hope you're not out too long. I know what you mean tho. It's like when you get hurt riding a certain board it feels cursed.

Already thinking about shin guards haha, at least one for my right leg until it is 100% healed.

Thanks for the kindness pals. Would gnar.

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Re: Gear madness support thread
« Reply #2213 on: July 18, 2024, 04:05:53 AM »
I own far too many pairs of shoes, but it’s only really three styles in different colour ways.

Trying to whittle down the amount but it still seems stupidly excessive.

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Re: Gear madness support thread
« Reply #2214 on: July 18, 2024, 04:47:00 AM »
I got broke off today worse than I have in a while and it's making me want to change my entire setup.

Not that I would've avoided this injury on a different setup or anything, or maybe I would have, who knows?

I just feel like I have a total aversion to my whole setup after this slam lol. Bust my leg wide open on a kink rail. Worst shinner of my life, sitting in the ER now waiting to get stitches.

And here I am thinking about my setup.....

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Re: Gear madness support thread
« Reply #2215 on: July 18, 2024, 10:00:47 AM »
In attempts to cure madness, when the mood strikes to tweak this or that, I refer to this video.

https://youtu.be/BcxyfinyMSU?si=ZFAy8YPF7mhAD8Dk


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Re: Gear madness support thread
« Reply #2216 on: July 18, 2024, 10:49:55 AM »
In attempts to cure madness, when the mood strikes to tweak this or that, I refer to this video.

https://youtu.be/BcxyfinyMSU?si=ZFAy8YPF7mhAD8Dk


tell me more please


this guy is obviously very good, but he’s just never moved the needle in a positive direction for me. pretty mellow in this video, i like 159s….but yeah he’s just not my guy

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« Reply #2217 on: July 18, 2024, 02:10:13 PM »
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In attempts to cure madness, when the mood strikes to tweak this or that, I refer to this video.

https://youtu.be/BcxyfinyMSU?si=ZFAy8YPF7mhAD8Dk
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tell me more please


this guy is obviously very good, but he’s just never moved the needle in a positive direction for me. pretty mellow in this video, i like 159s….but yeah he’s just not my guy

It's not about moving a needle?

He doesn't really give a shit about his gear. That's the vibe.

Skates something that works for the majority of what he likes to skate and doesn't worry about what gives him trouble.


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Re: Gear madness support thread
« Reply #2218 on: July 18, 2024, 02:26:42 PM »
In attempts to cure madness, when the mood strikes to tweak this or that, I refer to this video.

https://youtu.be/BcxyfinyMSU?si=ZFAy8YPF7mhAD8Dk


This randomly popped up on my suggested earlier today,  the algorithm has worked its magic,  I thought about this thread when I watched it

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Re: Gear madness support thread
« Reply #2219 on: July 18, 2024, 04:02:37 PM »
Alright pals I need some advice/someone to talk me down lol. For a majority of my skate career I used thunders, but always felt like my pop feel was missing. I was able to get a decent bag of flat ground tricks and a few ledge tricks. (fromt/back 50, front tail,front 5-0, bs crooked). I switched to indys and could not get them to feel right. Either too tall or too heavy. They always felt a little unstable to me. I am now on venture 5.8 standard. I can do most of my tricks that I could on thunder with a few missing. I had a bout of madness last night and put 149 mids on my board and hated it. Its like I am expecting a huge change in everything by switching a component of my gear. So I put my ventures back on and am trying to not change anything for a few weeks. For reference I am 5'10, my board is an 8.4 frog with a 14.25 wheelbase. What are your changes in mindset that help you fight the madness? I tried to have a setup that is somewhat "normal" so there are no excuses there. IDK!! please assist.