Gear madness support thread

[Ok]

Everytime I don't buy new gear when I get paid is a win. Truck curiousity is dogging me though. I love my ace classic 55s I skated Indy 149 stds for like ten years straight before them and they almost skate lighter even though theyre way heavier.
Slappys have better clearance (never been an issue for me, maybe on already dead Indy hangars), Lurpivs are tall (There's not actually anything wrong with the risers I run on the aces) Indys have a slightly better pinch (If I really really wanted that I'd go back to my Venture 5.8s they crooked incredibly)

I did just run a Heated Wheeled shaped board with a short nose and big tail for fun and pushed myself on transistion enough that its street failings didn't bug me as much. But I'm on a 9 inch pop now and it's nice to be back

Just sitting at work thinking about trucks

Edit: the classics axles are slipping a bit which is why I initially wanted to move on from them. Maybe I'll just axle a pair of stage 4s and then come back to thinking about it

classic 55s look the sickest.
they are really too big for me. but i like them. but they are too big. and kinda heavy. but they look so sick whenever i see them on someone’s else’s board.

(me, repeat)

[MMongrel]

Just sitting at work thinking about trucks

This has been me for the last two days. I'm riding Classic 55's now and there's nothing I would change. That said I'd really want to try Royals (maybe with Ace bushings even) just to see what they're like at some point. I don't want to take off the Classics though and I don't see a point in assembling a fourth complete although I'd have the most expensive parts already except the trucks of course.

I thought I was completely clear of this thread because I know what works for me but here I am. I'm glad it's more about curiosity than frustration.

[moonordie]

Since my.ankle is still not healthy kickflip wise this is the perfect time to finally grow a pair a spend time learning to skate tranny.
Also a perfect excuse to put a dedicated setup for it with different stuff that I would normally skate besides trucks since I learned my lesson on not betraying Ace ever again.
I'm thinking about a 9" popsicle and my local has some nice looking Sour boards and Palace so I'll go for something there. AF1 66 with some 101 OJ mini combo 54mm and cheapshots.
Should work.

[BeachChicken]

I'm of the opinion you should stick to your usual setup to learn. I know a lot of people that crush transition on very standard popsicles. You'll likely be starting on 3-5 foot stuff at most and a nimble, familiar setup will give you confidence as long as you can somewhat carve. You don't need anything massive until you're hauling ass around a bowl or skating a big ramp. GT rides the DLX 8.38 with 149s even. I'd recommend a navy eagle or something, especially if you're nearing 40.

[moonordie]

Even tho I appreciate your comment and is a totally logic one and is what I should do I won't because this is Slap.

[Dwyck]

I would say run the 9 and then go back to regular size when it's done. Unless you wanna build a quiver.

Pump a vert ramp like a child would. Kneeslide into the shallow end of the pool. I'm not super tech and I ran an Dane 1 on classic 55s and never looked back. As long as I can kickflip and skate a rotting wooden box with my friends I'll skate any fucked up transition shape

edit: even big transition demands regular boards. Rileys Dad and Elliot Sloan ride 8.5s without risers

[BeachChicken]

In the last month I've actually ridden 4 brands of trucks. I was on Ventures for 9mo and had a bad week of skating and thought going back to Thunders would cure some shitty flip tricks. In the process also decided to try Indy cast hollow. Oh boi did that open up old feelings. My timing isn't super different than Venture but they pop lighter. Pinch ain't a problem. Manuals feel nicer. But I commit to Thunder for a few weeks and my fucking bushings blow out again and I have a few days where I feel like they almost pop a little bit too light for me when I skate faster. Back and forth with Indy can't decide. Finally about to leave some gear at the park when I try my Ventures again and randomly all the qualms I had were kinda non existent.

Funny thing is I can do everything I can do on all of them. It's just various details that change. But still haven't decided what I'll setup.

[Weeb_poser]

I am really really fucking tempted to try some Lurpivs but I think Slappy's just work for me. I don't want to try them and open the Pandora's box of truck madness for myself again...

[BeachChicken]

Don't try anything if something is working. From what I've heard about Slappy Lurpiv offers nothing but a cool turn. Worse KP clearance, pinch is quite terrible, bad KP clearance. Some like the pop and the turn is good, but IDK what that really gets people.

[mstuntbless]

In the last month I've actually ridden 4 brands of trucks. I was on Ventures for 9mo and had a bad week of skating and thought going back to Thunders would cure some shitty flip tricks. In the process also decided to try Indy cast hollow. Oh boi did that open up old feelings. My timing isn't super different than Venture but they pop lighter. Pinch ain't a problem. Manuals feel nicer. But I commit to Thunder for a few weeks and my fucking bushings blow out again and I have a few days where I feel like they almost pop a little bit too light for me when I skate faster. Back and forth with Indy can't decide. Finally about to leave some gear at the park when I try my Ventures again and randomly all the qualms I had were kinda non existent.

Funny thing is I can do everything I can do on all of them. It's just various details that change. But still haven't decided what I'll setup.

 
 
I went through this exact equation of madness with the exact brands you have mentioned. I am similar to you, in that I can do all my same tricks on each brand, it’s just the feeling is different. So take solace in knowing that it truly doesn’t matter which truck you go with because it actually will not make a difference from a trick technicality standpoint. I also left all of my used gear that I knew wasn’t working for me at the skatepark. This way, I only have one setup to look at. I am way less tempted to switch anything out if it means I have to go to the shop and buy more gear. Back when I had like 4 sets of trucks at the crib it was a daily roll the dice situation as to what I would skate.

[Dwyck]

I like having old gear sitting around for Frankenstein setups and rainy days and stuff.. It's like the back of a bike shop under my bed


Though it's mostly grooved indy 149 standards and 49mm f4s. I had a set of 151s that I swapped for some aces for my friends birthday. I miss em sorta

[BeachChicken]

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In the last month I've actually ridden 4 brands of trucks. I was on Ventures for 9mo and had a bad week of skating and thought going back to Thunders would cure some shitty flip tricks. In the process also decided to try Indy cast hollow. Oh boi did that open up old feelings. My timing isn't super different than Venture but they pop lighter. Pinch ain't a problem. Manuals feel nicer. But I commit to Thunder for a few weeks and my fucking bushings blow out again and I have a few days where I feel like they almost pop a little bit too light for me when I skate faster. Back and forth with Indy can't decide. Finally about to leave some gear at the park when I try my Ventures again and randomly all the qualms I had were kinda non existent.

Funny thing is I can do everything I can do on all of them. It's just various details that change. But still haven't decided what I'll setup.

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I went through this exact equation of madness with the exact brands you have mentioned. I am similar to you, in that I can do all my same tricks on each brand, it’s just the feeling is different. So take solace in knowing that it truly doesn’t matter which truck you go with because it actually will not make a difference from a trick technicality standpoint. I also left all of my used gear that I knew wasn’t working for me at the skatepark. This way, I only have one setup to look at. I am way less tempted to switch anything out if it means I have to go to the shop and buy more gear. Back when I had like 4 sets of trucks at the crib it was a daily roll the dice situation as to what I would skate.

so what did you end up going with?

[mstuntbless]

I went with my Venture 5.8. It’s the most stable of all the options and like you I was on them for like 8 months when a little madness hit. I posted a link to a Ben Degros video in this chat. In the video he says “the best setup to have, is the one you are used to”. I’m trying to keep that in mind because if I change something it takes me about 2 weeks for it to feel normal.

[BeachChicken]

I actually have almost no pop timing changes between Venture and Indy, but Thunder takes some reacclimating

[Meathook]

Been having the worst truck madness since switching from 14-3/8” on Indy to 14”.  Actually settled on Ace with a girl shape.  With hard bushings they actually feel good and stable for being on a short wb.  Finna try and ride this out.

[Boog]

Venture 5.8 are the truck.

[j....soy.....]

I rolled around on a set of Lurpivs today….for big boards….felt pretty good.  Felt really stable but still gave you a nice carve…..

[Allen.]

I see a 5 pack from Skate Samples in my future.

And my past and present

[Mbrimson88]

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I see a 5 pack from Skate Samples in my future.

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And my past and present

For people in USA without industry or shop links, are these the best price and option for people who like BBS boards?

Maybe it is just because I tend to like plain stains more than graphics now, but it just seems like it would be easier to get any of these and do whatever to them, more so than the cost or purchase of any other board that I have to go remove the graphic anyway, or because not being in USA I can't justify the additional cost to ship them out here.

That in itself is some of my madness when I see all those amazing boards in the setups threads, DIY graphics or plain stains, which all look really good.

[Meathook]

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I see a 5 pack from Skate Samples in my future.

[close]

And my past and present

[close]

For people in USA without industry or shop links, are these the best price and option for people who like BBS boards?

Maybe it is just because I tend to like plain stains more than graphics now, but it just seems like it would be easier to get any of these and do whatever to them, more so than the cost or purchase of any other board that I have to go remove the graphic anyway, or because not being in USA I can't justify the additional cost to ship them out here.

That in itself is some of my madness when I see all those amazing boards in the setups threads, DIY graphics or plain stains, which all look really good.

In U.S. and from what I can find it is the best deal. For me shipped a 5 blank pack ends up being ~$33usd/board.  The closest thing is Xumiex sale decks which can sometimes be > $40/board, but it’s limited and rare.

Some shops use/used bbs in the past for shop boards, but I’m not sure who does now.

[Underpressureflips]

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I see a 5 pack from Skate Samples in my future.

[close]

And my past and present

[close]

For people in USA without industry or shop links, are these the best price and option for people who like BBS boards?

Maybe it is just because I tend to like plain stains more than graphics now, but it just seems like it would be easier to get any of these and do whatever to them, more so than the cost or purchase of any other board that I have to go remove the graphic anyway, or because not being in USA I can't justify the additional cost to ship them out here.

That in itself is some of my madness when I see all those amazing boards in the setups threads, DIY graphics or plain stains, which all look really good.

Tactics shop decks are bbs and can be had for under $30 at times

[CarcassToss]

If you're not hurting for cash most shops that use BBS sell their decks for $45-$55 and Tactics decks are well priced and don't have the worst graphics.

[mstuntbless]

Can someone here speak on the differences between 8.5 to 8.25 axle trucks? I’m on 5.8s and am considering 5.6s because I want something slightly more maneuverable and easier to get off the ground.

[Xen]

Can someone here speak on the differences between 8.5 to 8.25 axle trucks? I’m on 5.8s and am considering 5.6s because I want something slightly more maneuverable and easier to get off the ground.

.25" of an inch difference in width.
8.5" maybe just a hair more stable (depends on the truck imo; since I asume you are speaing to Ventures, not much difference in my experience....same goes for pop, tho 5.6 will just be a tad lighter all things being equal)

Choose based on the size of your board and if you prefer hotrod or magic carpet.

I'm currently staring at an 8.62" deck with both 8.5 and 8.75 inch trucks in hand like a deer in fucking headlights.

[Unkle Fleak]

I’m probably sizing down tomorrow. I need motivation to skate. I got trick dreams and too many days off. My board is to heavy and shit

[mstuntbless]

@xen I would be switching from 5.8 to 5.6 standard. I honestly need to be talked out of it

[Mbrimson88]

Can someone here speak on the differences between 8.5 to 8.25 axle trucks? I’m on 5.8s and am considering 5.6s because I want something slightly more maneuverable and easier to get off the ground.

It is down to your preference.

Between three people, all on the same size boards, there are exactly the two options, as you have mentioned.

I ride the 8.5" truck, because it is more stable and that is what I prefer on all my setups, mainly skating transition or small tech, but not really any rail / stair stuff.  That and the more narrow truck just feels too tippy for me nowdays, even though I used to skate that and smaller trucks a while back.

One of the guys always says my boards feel too rigid and he always rides the 8.25" truck, because it gives him the right amount of tip to pop to size / weight, etc. 

The other guy often rides both, but when skating more street stuff, he also goes down to a smaller truck to make things more manageable overall.


That is without going into any other info with different truck versions, hollow / forged vs cast / solid or anything else, but even that can change things considerably too, in which ever width truck, along with how many washers on the inside, how worn down the truck is and other factors.

A normal set of standards / team / polished 5.8s are always going to feel a little more solid, chunky, heavy or whatever compared to the same truck in 5.6, but whether or not you will like it more or less is up to you.

[Too Frank To Fred]

Can someone here speak on the differences between 8.5 to 8.25 axle trucks? I’m on 5.8s and am considering 5.6s because I want something slightly more maneuverable and easier to get off the ground.

Stick to the trucks you have. Take the 5.8s to axle if they are broken in and feeling decent.

If you want a lighter set up that pops quicker, get smaller wheels or better yet, wear down the ones ye have.

[mstuntbless]

^^well put by all. My 5.8s are broken in af and I have 53mm classics that are worn in nicely. It is so TEMPTING to switch to smaller trucks but I know that once I go down that path it’s hard to stop.

[skatebruh]

I would try a shorter wheelbase before new trucks. I love a 14” wheelbase with Ventures.