Gear madness support thread

[Schinken]

  I've got truck madness and it's driving me mad.
 
   For a good while I was on Thunders 8.75s with a small riser. Wore out the most recent pair and got a set of Lurpiv's, which I hated. Then got a set of Ventures, which just aren't turney enough for me. Then old set of Indy Stage 7's for $10. They were fine but heavy so I traded them to a homie for a new set of Indy 159 Hollows, which I have been skating for a few weeks and liking. I ride the blue 92a bushings and the turn is perfect for me but I'm heavy and wheelbite is a little more than I'd like with 56mm wheels so I have 1/16" risers and feel a little high off the ground. I've been wanting to try Slappys because I've read that they're stable and turn a lot like an Indy and are harder to get wheelbite. I mean, I don't need new trucks. I like the Indys just fine and if I was a broke teenager, I wouldn't think about needing new trucks but I'm old and just got an unexpected $100 tip at work this morning and the first thing I think is, Ohhh, I can get Slappys and some med/hard Slappy busings for like $55 and still have more money than I did!

  Do I need them? Will I just be chasing the truck dragon forever? Should I just stick with the Indys, which I'm mostly happy with. I know I'm overthinking.....

If your thunders are still working you could try the independent bushings + washers in your thunders. They work great in thunders and I get less wheelbite with thunder + indy bushings than with my independents.

[Sedition]

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  I've got truck madness and it's driving me mad.
 
   For a good while I was on Thunders 8.75s with a small riser. Wore out the most recent pair and got a set of Lurpiv's, which I hated. Then got a set of Ventures, which just aren't turney enough for me. Then old set of Indy Stage 7's for $10. They were fine but heavy so I traded them to a homie for a new set of Indy 159 Hollows, which I have been skating for a few weeks and liking. I ride the blue 92a bushings and the turn is perfect for me but I'm heavy and wheelbite is a little more than I'd like with 56mm wheels so I have 1/16" risers and feel a little high off the ground. I've been wanting to try Slappys because I've read that they're stable and turn a lot like an Indy and are harder to get wheelbite. I mean, I don't need new trucks. I like the Indys just fine and if I was a broke teenager, I wouldn't think about needing new trucks but I'm old and just got an unexpected $100 tip at work this morning and the first thing I think is, Ohhh, I can get Slappys and some med/hard Slappy busings for like $55 and still have more money than I did!

  Do I need them? Will I just be chasing the truck dragon forever? Should I just stick with the Indys, which I'm mostly happy with. I know I'm overthinking.....

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Id say either go back to thunders or get some forged hollow 159 Indys.

You really just need the forged baseplates if you already have 159 hangers

I also second trying the Indy black bushings if you stay with them.

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   Unless I'm missing something, won't both the Indy forged baseplates and Thunders bring me closer to the ground, which I don't want. I guess Slappys will as well but it's only 1mm and most reports people say they get less wheelbite on Slappys than the 1mm taller Indy standards.

Yeah, I am little confused on that advice, too.

Forged Indy: 53.5mm
Cast Indy: 55mm tall

If wheel bite is an issue, with all other factors remaining the same, lowering your truck height is going to make problem worse, not better.

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  I've got truck madness and it's driving me mad.
 
   For a good while I was on Thunders 8.75s with a small riser. Wore out the most recent pair and got a set of Lurpiv's, which I hated. Then got a set of Ventures, which just aren't turney enough for me. Then old set of Indy Stage 7's for $10. They were fine but heavy so I traded them to a homie for a new set of Indy 159 Hollows, which I have been skating for a few weeks and liking. I ride the blue 92a bushings and the turn is perfect for me but I'm heavy and wheelbite is a little more than I'd like with 56mm wheels so I have 1/16" risers and feel a little high off the ground. I've been wanting to try Slappys because I've read that they're stable and turn a lot like an Indy and are harder to get wheelbite. I mean, I don't need new trucks. I like the Indys just fine and if I was a broke teenager, I wouldn't think about needing new trucks but I'm old and just got an unexpected $100 tip at work this morning and the first thing I think is, Ohhh, I can get Slappys and some med/hard Slappy busings for like $55 and still have more money than I did!

  Do I need them? Will I just be chasing the truck dragon forever? Should I just stick with the Indys, which I'm mostly happy with. I know I'm overthinking.....

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Id say either go back to thunders or get some forged hollow 159 Indys.

You really just need the forged baseplates if you already have 159 hangers

I also second trying the Indy black bushings if you stay with them.

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   Unless I'm missing something, won't both the Indy forged baseplates and Thunders bring me closer to the ground, which I don't want. I guess Slappys will as well but it's only 1mm and most reports people say they get less wheelbite on Slappys than the 1mm taller Indy standards.

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Yeah, I am little confused on that advice, too.

Forged Indy: 53.5mm
Cast Indy: 55mm tall

If wheel bite is an issue, with all other factors remaining the same, lowering your truck height is going to make problem worse, not better.

i thought the same thing tho, re: forged indy’s being the correct move. probably in part because of @Sedition and @BeachChicken saying that forged indy’s are good. @Osage also mentioned something like ‘a little high off the ground’. and thunders are lower than regular indys, by a bit. sooooo.
respectfully.
were you riding 56s with the thunders? because indy’s do not bite wheels as much as thunders do. maybe you are doing what i do and changing too many things at once: wheels and trucks, maybe new shoes etc etc.
159s are the shit, trying the other bushings sounds like a good first step, then dropping wheel size. cast indy’s with risers is some skyscraper shit i cannot handle those heights

[Sedition]

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  I've got truck madness and it's driving me mad.
 
   For a good while I was on Thunders 8.75s with a small riser. Wore out the most recent pair and got a set of Lurpiv's, which I hated. Then got a set of Ventures, which just aren't turney enough for me. Then old set of Indy Stage 7's for $10. They were fine but heavy so I traded them to a homie for a new set of Indy 159 Hollows, which I have been skating for a few weeks and liking. I ride the blue 92a bushings and the turn is perfect for me but I'm heavy and wheelbite is a little more than I'd like with 56mm wheels so I have 1/16" risers and feel a little high off the ground. I've been wanting to try Slappys because I've read that they're stable and turn a lot like an Indy and are harder to get wheelbite. I mean, I don't need new trucks. I like the Indys just fine and if I was a broke teenager, I wouldn't think about needing new trucks but I'm old and just got an unexpected $100 tip at work this morning and the first thing I think is, Ohhh, I can get Slappys and some med/hard Slappy busings for like $55 and still have more money than I did!

  Do I need them? Will I just be chasing the truck dragon forever? Should I just stick with the Indys, which I'm mostly happy with. I know I'm overthinking.....

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Id say either go back to thunders or get some forged hollow 159 Indys.

You really just need the forged baseplates if you already have 159 hangers

I also second trying the Indy black bushings if you stay with them.

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   Unless I'm missing something, won't both the Indy forged baseplates and Thunders bring me closer to the ground, which I don't want. I guess Slappys will as well but it's only 1mm and most reports people say they get less wheelbite on Slappys than the 1mm taller Indy standards.

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Yeah, I am little confused on that advice, too.

Forged Indy: 53.5mm
Cast Indy: 55mm tall

If wheel bite is an issue, with all other factors remaining the same, lowering your truck height is going to make problem worse, not better.

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i thought the same thing tho, re: forged indy’s being the correct move. probably in part because of @Sedition and @BeachChicken saying that forged indy’s are good. @Osage also mentioned something like ‘a little high off the ground’. and thunders are lower than regular indys, by a bit. sooooo.
respectfully.
were you riding 56s with the thunders? because indy’s do not bite wheels as much as thunders do. maybe you are doing what i do and changing too many things at once: wheels and trucks, maybe new shoes etc etc.
159s are the shit, trying the other bushings sounds like a good first step, then dropping wheel size. cast indy’s with risers is some skyscraper shit i cannot handle those heights

Love Forged Indys, but wouldn't ride 56mm on them without (a) a riser, or (b) stiffer bushing. Also, remember you can always make a lower truck taller (with risers), but you can never make taller truck lower.

[Sedition]

...cast indy’s with risers is some skyscraper shit i cannot handle those heights

TRUE WORDS!!!!!!

[swongolianbbq]

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...cast indy’s with risers is some skyscraper shit i cannot handle those heights

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TRUE WORDS!!!!!!

I'm on cast 159's with risers right now and it looks kinda crazy to me, cause I'm monster truckin it on a blue eagle shape but I feel like the baker b16 would measure closer to 8.5... bleagles are like 8.38 straight pull... last board I had with risers and 159's was a 9" deck and it looked more proportionate but you can really see the height on this one. Sold that 9" setup and some others when I moved cross-country. I'll get used to it again though, only had a few tricks in the road in front of my place so far

[Rick Trapasso]

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  I've got truck madness and it's driving me mad.
 
   For a good while I was on Thunders 8.75s with a small riser. Wore out the most recent pair and got a set of Lurpiv's, which I hated. Then got a set of Ventures, which just aren't turney enough for me. Then old set of Indy Stage 7's for $10. They were fine but heavy so I traded them to a homie for a new set of Indy 159 Hollows, which I have been skating for a few weeks and liking. I ride the blue 92a bushings and the turn is perfect for me but I'm heavy and wheelbite is a little more than I'd like with 56mm wheels so I have 1/16" risers and feel a little high off the ground. I've been wanting to try Slappys because I've read that they're stable and turn a lot like an Indy and are harder to get wheelbite. I mean, I don't need new trucks. I like the Indys just fine and if I was a broke teenager, I wouldn't think about needing new trucks but I'm old and just got an unexpected $100 tip at work this morning and the first thing I think is, Ohhh, I can get Slappys and some med/hard Slappy busings for like $55 and still have more money than I did!

  Do I need them? Will I just be chasing the truck dragon forever? Should I just stick with the Indys, which I'm mostly happy with. I know I'm overthinking.....

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Id say either go back to thunders or get some forged hollow 159 Indys.

You really just need the forged baseplates if you already have 159 hangers

I also second trying the Indy black bushings if you stay with them.

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   Unless I'm missing something, won't both the Indy forged baseplates and Thunders bring me closer to the ground, which I don't want. I guess Slappys will as well but it's only 1mm and most reports people say they get less wheelbite on Slappys than the 1mm taller Indy standards.

You said something about feeling a little high off the ground so I thought you wanted to be lower.

I was just suggesting a truck that would feel closer to what you were used to with the thunders.

Guess I misinterpreted the post. If wheelbite is really the issue here maybe go down in wheel size?


Personally, I've found recently that I like a lower setup than I previously thought and have have to go down in wheel size to accommodate slightly lower trucks.

[Osage]

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  I've got truck madness and it's driving me mad.
 
   For a good while I was on Thunders 8.75s with a small riser. Wore out the most recent pair and got a set of Lurpiv's, which I hated. Then got a set of Ventures, which just aren't turney enough for me. Then old set of Indy Stage 7's for $10. They were fine but heavy so I traded them to a homie for a new set of Indy 159 Hollows, which I have been skating for a few weeks and liking. I ride the blue 92a bushings and the turn is perfect for me but I'm heavy and wheelbite is a little more than I'd like with 56mm wheels so I have 1/16" risers and feel a little high off the ground. I've been wanting to try Slappys because I've read that they're stable and turn a lot like an Indy and are harder to get wheelbite. I mean, I don't need new trucks. I like the Indys just fine and if I was a broke teenager, I wouldn't think about needing new trucks but I'm old and just got an unexpected $100 tip at work this morning and the first thing I think is, Ohhh, I can get Slappys and some med/hard Slappy busings for like $55 and still have more money than I did!

  Do I need them? Will I just be chasing the truck dragon forever? Should I just stick with the Indys, which I'm mostly happy with. I know I'm overthinking.....

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Id say either go back to thunders or get some forged hollow 159 Indys.

You really just need the forged baseplates if you already have 159 hangers

I also second trying the Indy black bushings if you stay with them.

[close]

   Unless I'm missing something, won't both the Indy forged baseplates and Thunders bring me closer to the ground, which I don't want. I guess Slappys will as well but it's only 1mm and most reports people say they get less wheelbite on Slappys than the 1mm taller Indy standards.

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You said something about feeling a little high off the ground so I thought you wanted to be lower.

I was just suggesting a truck that would feel closer to what you were used to with the thunders.

Guess I misinterpreted the post. If wheelbite is really the issue here maybe go down in wheel size?


Personally, I've found recently that I like a lower setup than I previously thought and have have to go down in wheel size to accommodate slightly lower trucks.

 I guess I didn't explain myself very well. I'm 250lbs. I was on Thunder 8.75" with bones hard bushings for the last 9 months. They were fine but I didn't love the turn and with 1/16th risers was still dealing with wheelbite. They were trashed and I decided to try Indys. I've liked Indys in the past but it had been over a year since I'd been on them. I'm currently riding Indy hollow 159's with the med/hard blue barrel bushings 1/16" risers and 56mm wheels. I have 54's but am often at a really old skatepark with terrible ground and the 56's are great. I'll ride 54's other places but do not want to exclusively ride 54's. I've been on the Indys for a month. I really like how they turn and the stability is nice. I'm looking for a truck that turns more or less like an Indy, has good stability but gets a little less wheelbite overall. Reading here and watching a few videos, Slappy seems like maybe they are this. If I could get away with say 2mm risers on the slappys, that would lower my whole thing by 2mm compared to the Indys which I would like. I am happy to just stay on the Indys if such a thing doesn't exist but if slappys will feel similar, allow me to ride 56's and get less wheelbite or even the same amount of wheelbite but be a few MM's lower, I'd love it.

   I should add that Ace's are too twitchy for me and I recently tried Lurpivs and hated them.

[BeachChicken]

Why don't you try a 93 in a smaller size for that park?

[Osage]

Why don't you try a 93 in a smaller size for that park?

  The 56's I ride there are 93a Dragons. They're honestly probably more like 55's now but they aren't super worn down at all. I've tried 54's in both Dragon 93 and Spitfire 97 and the ground is just so worn and so slow that they don't work well. The 56's just roll longer and go enough faster to make it worth it. I actually have a set of Spitfire 93a 58mm on order. If I could get away with 58's and the same riser size I'm using now on Slappys, I'd be psyched.

[BeachChicken]

Just curious what kind of skating are you doing? Just carving around? Technical stuff? Bowls? Are you actually up on or above the coping?

I ask because I've skated Ocean Beach park, a place notorious for how rough it is, on 53mm X99, 53mm 93 Soft Sliders, and 54 99 F4 Radials. All were mostly fine with some pushing, but I'm only hitting shit 5' high or so. Unless you're carving fairly tall transition at a super fucked park I can't imagine 56 soft wheels not being sufficient. But, the fact that you seem to dislike all the trucks people use to skate transition tells me maybe there's more to the picture. Honestly trying to helps.

[Sisig]

Try wheel wells.  I skate 56 mm on loose Indy forged and never think about wheel bite at all

[moonordie]

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  I've got truck madness and it's driving me mad.
 
   For a good while I was on Thunders 8.75s with a small riser. Wore out the most recent pair and got a set of Lurpiv's, which I hated. Then got a set of Ventures, which just aren't turney enough for me. Then old set of Indy Stage 7's for $10. They were fine but heavy so I traded them to a homie for a new set of Indy 159 Hollows, which I have been skating for a few weeks and liking. I ride the blue 92a bushings and the turn is perfect for me but I'm heavy and wheelbite is a little more than I'd like with 56mm wheels so I have 1/16" risers and feel a little high off the ground. I've been wanting to try Slappys because I've read that they're stable and turn a lot like an Indy and are harder to get wheelbite. I mean, I don't need new trucks. I like the Indys just fine and if I was a broke teenager, I wouldn't think about needing new trucks but I'm old and just got an unexpected $100 tip at work this morning and the first thing I think is, Ohhh, I can get Slappys and some med/hard Slappy busings for like $55 and still have more money than I did!

  Do I need them? Will I just be chasing the truck dragon forever? Should I just stick with the Indys, which I'm mostly happy with. I know I'm overthinking.....

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Id say either go back to thunders or get some forged hollow 159 Indys.

You really just need the forged baseplates if you already have 159 hangers

I also second trying the Indy black bushings if you stay with them.

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   Unless I'm missing something, won't both the Indy forged baseplates and Thunders bring me closer to the ground, which I don't want. I guess Slappys will as well but it's only 1mm and most reports people say they get less wheelbite on Slappys than the 1mm taller Indy standards.

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Yeah, I am little confused on that advice, too.

Forged Indy: 53.5mm
Cast Indy: 55mm tall

If wheel bite is an issue, with all other factors remaining the same, lowering your truck height is going to make problem worse, not better.

Wheelbite answer = Lurpiv

[Mbrimson88]

Try wheel wells.  I skate 56 mm on loose Indy forged and never think about wheel bite at all

This is my new go to and it definitely works well for me.

Just practicing on some old decks to get the technique right, but I think I have it fairly well sorted now, from back when I used to just hack at the board any old how to get some more clearance, to now looking at them thinking they look a whole lot better and not too mismatched, which always used to bug me about them.  Just a basic angle grinder to get these how they are now, but I tried a few different options, different size discs, etc.

Pic from fairly recently when I went back through and did quite a few on various boards to get them all pretty much the same.

[Osage]

Wheelbite answer = Lurpiv

   I tried them because so many people say that. Unfortunately, Lurpivs are useless for someone 250lbs. Just terrible wheelbite, even with Bones Hards, no matter what you do.

[Osage]

Just curious what kind of skating are you doing? Just carving around? Technical stuff? Bowls? Are you actually up on or above the coping?

I ask because I've skated Ocean Beach park, a place notorious for how rough it is, on 53mm X99, 53mm 93 Soft Sliders, and 54 99 F4 Radials. All were mostly fine with some pushing, but I'm only hitting shit 5' high or so. Unless you're carving fairly tall transition at a super fucked park I can't imagine 56 soft wheels not being sufficient. But, the fact that you seem to dislike all the trucks people use to skate transition tells me maybe there's more to the picture. Honestly trying to helps.

  I'm not a great skater by any means but I skate probably 5 days a week and it's literally my favorite thing to do. I skate curbs fairly often. The skatepark I go to with the bad ground is 25 years old and has features that you just don't see on modern skateparks like moguls and random bumps and stuff. They're actually super fun to skate. They added a bowl maybe 10 years ago and the ground in it is much better but it's poorly designed and basically nobody skates it, which is a bummer. It's too tight for me to do anything in. I spend a lot of time there on a smallish 1/4 pipe that flows to a manual pad. I'm old and heavy so I'm just not flipping my board. I skate a 3.5' wooden mini ramp fairly regularly and I just absolutely love it. This is probably my favorite thing to skate. I also do like to just roll around going up and down ramps etc... I guess I'm just sort of a basic old fat skater not doing anything impressive or even that difficult.

[back smith]

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Wheelbite answer = Lurpiv

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   I tried them because so many people say that. Unfortunately, Lurpivs are useless for someone 250lbs. Just terrible wheelbite, even with Bones Hards, no matter what you do.

Have you tried Paris Trucks?

[BeachChicken]

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Just curious what kind of skating are you doing? Just carving around? Technical stuff? Bowls? Are you actually up on or above the coping?

I ask because I've skated Ocean Beach park, a place notorious for how rough it is, on 53mm X99, 53mm 93 Soft Sliders, and 54 99 F4 Radials. All were mostly fine with some pushing, but I'm only hitting shit 5' high or so. Unless you're carving fairly tall transition at a super fucked park I can't imagine 56 soft wheels not being sufficient. But, the fact that you seem to dislike all the trucks people use to skate transition tells me maybe there's more to the picture. Honestly trying to helps.

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  I'm not a great skater by any means but I skate probably 5 days a week and it's literally my favorite thing to do. I skate curbs fairly often. The skatepark I go to with the bad ground is 25 years old and has features that you just don't see on modern skateparks like moguls and random bumps and stuff. They're actually super fun to skate. They added a bowl maybe 10 years ago and the ground in it is much better but it's poorly designed and basically nobody skates it, which is a bummer. It's too tight for me to do anything in. I spend a lot of time there on a smallish 1/4 pipe that flows to a manual pad. I'm old and heavy so I'm just not flipping my board. I skate a 3.5' wooden mini ramp fairly regularly and I just absolutely love it. This is probably my favorite thing to skate. I also do like to just roll around going up and down ramps etc... I guess I'm just sort of a basic old fat skater not doing anything impressive or even that difficult.

I know you mentioned your weight. That might be something to work on as well but it sounds like your best option is to go with something with wheel wells maybe, wax them a lot, use harder bushings. There just aren't that many truck options in the end. I'd actually suggest trying Ventures with or without a riser. Bushings made for Indy's fit and when you bite with them it's very gradual compared to a Thunder.

[Osage]

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Just curious what kind of skating are you doing? Just carving around? Technical stuff? Bowls? Are you actually up on or above the coping?

I ask because I've skated Ocean Beach park, a place notorious for how rough it is, on 53mm X99, 53mm 93 Soft Sliders, and 54 99 F4 Radials. All were mostly fine with some pushing, but I'm only hitting shit 5' high or so. Unless you're carving fairly tall transition at a super fucked park I can't imagine 56 soft wheels not being sufficient. But, the fact that you seem to dislike all the trucks people use to skate transition tells me maybe there's more to the picture. Honestly trying to helps.

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  I'm not a great skater by any means but I skate probably 5 days a week and it's literally my favorite thing to do. I skate curbs fairly often. The skatepark I go to with the bad ground is 25 years old and has features that you just don't see on modern skateparks like moguls and random bumps and stuff. They're actually super fun to skate. They added a bowl maybe 10 years ago and the ground in it is much better but it's poorly designed and basically nobody skates it, which is a bummer. It's too tight for me to do anything in. I spend a lot of time there on a smallish 1/4 pipe that flows to a manual pad. I'm old and heavy so I'm just not flipping my board. I skate a 3.5' wooden mini ramp fairly regularly and I just absolutely love it. This is probably my favorite thing to skate. I also do like to just roll around going up and down ramps etc... I guess I'm just sort of a basic old fat skater not doing anything impressive or even that difficult.

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I know you mentioned your weight. That might be something to work on as well but it sounds like your best option is to go with something with wheel wells maybe, wax them a lot, use harder bushings. There just aren't that many truck options in the end. I'd actually suggest trying Ventures with or without a riser. Bushings made for Indy's fit and when you bite with them it's very gradual compared to a Thunder.

 Thanks. I've actually lost about 65lbs in the last 2 years from eating a little better and skating all the time. I still lose about 2lbs a month and it feels great. It's a really nice pace and I'm not like starving myself or anything. Hoping to be at 200lbs in 2 years.

   I don't love the turn or Ventures unfortunately.

   I'm really hooked on the BBS 8.62 shape right now and literally nobody is making it with wheels wells. Polar did a while back but I can't find one anywhere. Back when I skated shaped boards I loved wheel wells so I think that's probably my answer. I kind of hate the way they look, especially DIY but I guess who cares. I do like full height Indys a lot and honestly, If I added some wheels wells and got rid of the risers, I'd probably be all set.

[rawbertson.]

debating if i should i move my Lurpiv 150s + 60mm wheels over to Egg setup
and then put my indy 149s with pedro f4s on a 8.5" popsicle
wasnt really feeling the lurpivs on the popsicle and wasnt really feeling the indys on the egg...

starting to madness also on my main setup whether it would be better to do 8.5" popsicle on thunder 149s or is it already perfect where i have it 8.38 on 148s. i feel like this is skating sooo sooo good like this but maybe i neeed to waste more money on trucks?  also starting to think i need 8.25 and 8.5" ventures

[BeachChicken]

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Just curious what kind of skating are you doing? Just carving around? Technical stuff? Bowls? Are you actually up on or above the coping?

I ask because I've skated Ocean Beach park, a place notorious for how rough it is, on 53mm X99, 53mm 93 Soft Sliders, and 54 99 F4 Radials. All were mostly fine with some pushing, but I'm only hitting shit 5' high or so. Unless you're carving fairly tall transition at a super fucked park I can't imagine 56 soft wheels not being sufficient. But, the fact that you seem to dislike all the trucks people use to skate transition tells me maybe there's more to the picture. Honestly trying to helps.

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  I'm not a great skater by any means but I skate probably 5 days a week and it's literally my favorite thing to do. I skate curbs fairly often. The skatepark I go to with the bad ground is 25 years old and has features that you just don't see on modern skateparks like moguls and random bumps and stuff. They're actually super fun to skate. They added a bowl maybe 10 years ago and the ground in it is much better but it's poorly designed and basically nobody skates it, which is a bummer. It's too tight for me to do anything in. I spend a lot of time there on a smallish 1/4 pipe that flows to a manual pad. I'm old and heavy so I'm just not flipping my board. I skate a 3.5' wooden mini ramp fairly regularly and I just absolutely love it. This is probably my favorite thing to skate. I also do like to just roll around going up and down ramps etc... I guess I'm just sort of a basic old fat skater not doing anything impressive or even that difficult.

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I know you mentioned your weight. That might be something to work on as well but it sounds like your best option is to go with something with wheel wells maybe, wax them a lot, use harder bushings. There just aren't that many truck options in the end. I'd actually suggest trying Ventures with or without a riser. Bushings made for Indy's fit and when you bite with them it's very gradual compared to a Thunder.

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 Thanks. I've actually lost about 65lbs in the last 2 years from eating a little better and skating all the time. I still lose about 2lbs a month and it feels great. It's a really nice pace and I'm not like starving myself or anything. Hoping to be at 200lbs in 2 years.

   I don't love the turn or Ventures unfortunately.

   I'm really hooked on the BBS 8.62 shape right now and literally nobody is making it with wheels wells. Polar did a while back but I can't find one anywhere. Back when I skated shaped boards I loved wheel wells so I think that's probably my answer. I kind of hate the way they look, especially DIY but I guess who cares. I do like full height Indys a lot and honestly, If I added some wheels wells and got rid of the risers, I'd probably be all set.

No offense, but you're painting yourself into a corner here really. Indys are not an inherently stable truck and can wheelbite abruptly. Lurpivs solve that but you didn't like them for some reason. Ace are going to be super squirrely. Not sure how Thunders worked honestly as they are the lowest and have the most WB. And then your deck is limiting you to something that might help. You gotta loosen up parameters and/or give more time to tweaking and adapting. Like, maybe Venture with Ace Low bushings like people like would be good? Bones Med bottom Hard top? IDK, just winging it here, but you're in a unique situation. Hope ya get comfy!

[Rick Trapasso]

Indy hard bushings, or hell maybe even the super hard yellows?

[Osage]

  Problem literally solved. Thanks everyone.

  I added wheel wells to this new deck this morning at work. They don't look perfect but work great. Set it up after work with no risers and the 56mm Dragons and Indy Hollow 159's. They have nicely broken in blue/92 med/hard bushings and with the wheel wells I got zero wheel bite in the 1/2 hour I had to skate after work. Right at the end I tried to get wheel bite and was able to but it was difficult and minimal. I was in heaven riding this around. Also, I was able to loosen the trucks a hair so they are the perfect balance of stable and turnie.

   

[Sisig]

  Problem literally solved. Thanks everyone.

  I added wheel wells to this new deck this morning at work. They don't look perfect but work great. Set it up after work with no risers and the 56mm Dragons and Indy Hollow 159's. They have nicely broken in blue/92 med/hard bushings and with the wheel wells I got zero wheel bite in the 1/2 hour I had to skate after work. Right at the end I tried to get wheel bite and was able to but it was difficult and minimal. I was in heaven riding this around. Also, I was able to loosen the trucks a hair so they are the perfect balance of stable and turnie.

   

Nice what did you use to make the wheel wells? I saw another thread somebody used a wood rasp and there was talks about sealing the freshly exposed wood.  Sick deck too

[Osage]

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  Problem literally solved. Thanks everyone.

  I added wheel wells to this new deck this morning at work. They don't look perfect but work great. Set it up after work with no risers and the 56mm Dragons and Indy Hollow 159's. They have nicely broken in blue/92 med/hard bushings and with the wheel wells I got zero wheel bite in the 1/2 hour I had to skate after work. Right at the end I tried to get wheel bite and was able to but it was difficult and minimal. I was in heaven riding this around. Also, I was able to loosen the trucks a hair so they are the perfect balance of stable and turnie.

   

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Nice what did you use to make the wheel wells? I saw another thread somebody used a wood rasp and there was talks about sealing the freshly exposed wood.  Sick deck too

   I just did it on the end of a belt sander at work. By the fourth one, I had it down but they're all fine. I sealed the wood with this stuff designed to seal wood end grain, which is basically a thin liquid wax.

[Rick Trapasso]

Hell yea, nice work.

[Sila]

Between Thunder 147 Hollow lights, Royal 139's and Venture 5.0 lows I'm absolutely lost and feel uncomfortable on all of them. Wtf.

[scab]

Between Thunder 147 Hollow lights, Royal 139's and Venture 5.0 lows I'm absolutely lost and feel uncomfortable on all of them. Wtf.

Do you remember the last setup you felt comfortable on? What was it an can you reasonably go back to that?

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Between Thunder 147 Hollow lights, Royal 139's and Venture 5.0 lows I'm absolutely lost and feel uncomfortable on all of them. Wtf.

more information please



possibly helpful:  when folks around me started sizing up from the 5.0 lo and 7.75s, to an 8, i saw many switch to indy 139s, and that might be my recommendation for you. lots of folks like the forged baseplate hollow indy’s.

i enjoy thunder 147s, my current ones are also hollow lights, and they are really low, which is fine if i’m going to ride a small wheel.
i used to LOVE the old royals, and should have bought several sets. strangely i haven’t messed with the new ones at all so i can’t speak to those.

[swongolianbbq]

A while back I had the madness and did a buncha research to try and come up with an "anti-madness" board, or like the most generic board size wise with classic components, so I couldn't blame my board for shit hahah

Kinda went off like, 1994 onward

But also though about about the 70's and 80's, evolution of gear and what size stuff was available/popular

I think ~8.5" Indys, like 146s, 151s(FW), and 149s might be the most skated trucks ever, from the late 70's or whatever up till now, that still kinda look like the first generation

Thinking about how for a while there wasn't 159s, and there wasn't 144's until kinda recently. I remember some interviews about pros setups where it was either 139 or 149, but I think it might've still been called 136.. and kinda why Reynolds ran 8" trucks on an 8.5 for like 20 years straight And Leo ran 129s on 8+ for so long. A lot of people in ~2005ish were on 8.25s and 8.5s with 139s.

The most available/popular deck sizes right now seem to be around  8, 8.25, and 8.5

I mixed like all of the available truck options together and ~8.38" seems to be the middle ground

I mixed like all of the wheel options together and 54mm seems to be the middle ground

Since 93-94ish I think the round edge wheels, like spitfire classics, have been most prevalent overall

I think like, if I had to buy a board for someone who wanted to start skating, or if I wanted a board that was just like, and example of "a skateboard" that I couldn't blame stuff on or tweak parts on, I'd do something like this

8.25" deck, ~14.25 wb
Indy 149's or hollow cast 149's
Spitfire f4 classic 54mm
Some kinda bones bearings

I just built a setup with 159's, 60mm classics and 1/8" risers and it took a minute to get used to and I almost regretted buying it, but it's faster and smoother and pretty fun... I think I need to get into finding some ~8.75 x 14.25wb decks, maybe with mellower kicks or longer kicks... Right now it's on a blue eagle and hot rods a lil bit and the tail feels slightly short with this setup