Gear madness support thread

[Slave IV]

I'm really tempted to put a dunk SB outsole on a blazer mid SB

Straight up sole swap them shits and have a cupsole blazer

I have barge cement, knowledge and tools

Gonna put a sz 8.5 dunk sole on a sz 9 blazer upper since the dunk sole is wider

Or if converse would go ahead and make more Pro Leathers I could just buy those

The moneys going to the same place anyway

I'm just wondering how hard it would be to take the sole OFF the blazers

It'll come off easy on the dunks

Frankenshoes? I can't imagine that working well or better than an existing shoe out there but I guess that's what madness is all about? If adding some impact protection and support on Blazers is what you are after, I just put FP Gamechangers in mine and they were perfect, other than being a PITA to get on or off, which is the only reason I would never buy Blazer mids again.

[Hqjdncm]

I am currently riding venture 6.1 hi’s, I def love the pop feel on them and am really getting used to the manny point but they just don’t grind that well to me, and the turning isn’t bad but isn’t great. I came from ace classic 55s for like 5 years and before that only Indy classics. But I definitely wanna try more stuff and see if there is something I like more, ie lurpivs and possibly thunders and slappys. I know in the past Indy’s always felt like home to me since I started skating on them and they have an amazing grind and great turn, but they are sooo heavy, same with ace, which is why I tried ventures to lighten up my setup a bit and also cause of ventures pinch. But idk if I should try lurpivs or go back to Indy’s. I think I’ve had my time on ace and likely won’t go back to them sadly as good of a truck as they are, but I also am used to my ventures now and don’t wanna have to go back to a heavier truck. Anyone have any lurpiv experience they can share such as the wb in relation to Indy and venture as well as grind, pinch, weight and pop feel. I also ride a 8.75 wide with a 14.625wb if that helps give context to it.

[swongolianbbq]

I have FPs in my blazers already

honestly i don't even know

It would look sick and be a fun project

That's why I post it in this thread hahah

I just wish these guys were more readily available



I kinda feel like if converse's skateboard line ran these alongside blazer mids, in low and high, they would take some market share away from the adidas superstar/pro model, which are really the only other major retro basketball skate shoes competing with Nike/converse

Plus hella pros skated them in the 80s and 90s

Puma has like one model and they're not a threat or anything, but clydes/suedes are that same type of shoe as pro Leathers/Superstars

Vans sk8-his are classic and blazers compete with those

The fastbreak skates amazing but it would last longer if they only did all-leather/suede, that satin side panel explodes immediately

And they're kinda not even a true mid, my ankle still got whacked by my board

If they did a truer representation of the vintage fastbreaks and just made them with more durable materials I would love that shoe

Kinda like with the chuck Taylor pro suede

If the only ones readily available were the canvas ones, that would be a bummer.

Nike has the Jordan 1, blazer, dunk, fastbreak, and chuck... We need to see more of the pro leather, weapon, Terminator, air ship, etc


I think if they had pro Leathers in the same capacity of colorways, price range, as blazer mids, that would be dope

[MMongrel]

I am currently riding venture 6.1 hi’s, I def love the pop feel on them and am really getting used to the manny point but they just don’t grind that well to me, and the turning isn’t bad but isn’t great. I came from ace classic 55s for like 5 years and before that only Indy classics. But I definitely wanna try more stuff and see if there is something I like more, ie lurpivs and possibly thunders and slappys. I know in the past Indy’s always felt like home to me since I started skating on them and they have an amazing grind and great turn, but they are sooo heavy, same with ace, which is why I tried ventures to lighten up my setup a bit and also cause of ventures pinch. But idk if I should try lurpivs or go back to Indy’s. I think I’ve had my time on ace and likely won’t go back to them sadly as good of a truck as they are, but I also am used to my ventures now and don’t wanna have to go back to a heavier truck. Anyone have any lurpiv experience they can share such as the wb in relation to Indy and venture as well as grind, pinch, weight and pop feel. I also ride a 8.75 wide with a 14.625wb if that helps give context to it.

On a same journey as you coming from Ace 55 Classics to Venture Hi 6.1. The grind is definitely harder than on Aces but that didn't bother me as much as the turn with stock bushings broken in. At some point I'm gonna try sanding the top or going to Ace hards. But for now I've been on Thunders and enjoying it so much that I haven't had the patience to dial the Ventures in. Lurpiv seem very tasty though. I wouldn't have any of these problems if they just made the Classic in 8.5"-8.75" axle. The 44 is just too narrow for me even with extra speed rings.

[moonordie]

I'm really tempted to put a dunk SB outsole on a blazer mid SB

Straight up sole swap them shits and have a cupsole blazer

I have barge cement, knowledge and tools

Gonna put a sz 8.5 dunk sole on a sz 9 blazer upper since the dunk sole is wider

Or if converse would go ahead and make more Pro Leathers I could just buy those

The moneys going to the same place anyway

I'm just wondering how hard it would be to take the sole OFF the blazers

It'll come off easy on the dunks

Please do it, I'd love to see the end result.

[TheCrimsonShroud]

Current madness is trucks. I have been setting up different sizes. Got some Indy HF for 8/.125. Venture 5.8s for 8.5. Thunders for my 8.75. Got bushings worked out, all of them tuned like I like them.

But now I want to skate fucking 8.25/8.38s and need a fourth truck. Because I'm a lunatic it has to be a different brand. That's how I justify the madness--im simply trying all the brands to find my "forever truck". So I'm currently comparing Slappy and Ace/AF1 and looking for a sale. I can justify like 45-50 bucks, so I have to be smart about it. But then I also sort of pine for some regular ass Stage 11 144s. So basically I'm in option paralysis mode.

I've never skated Slappy. Had Ace classics I liked, but I really don't think I'm about them on a street/trick deck. And I'm staying away from weird niche brands, so no Theeve, Film, Lurpiv, etc

[Texas_Tone]

I'm really tempted to put a dunk SB outsole on a blazer mid SB

Straight up sole swap them shits and have a cupsole blazer

I have barge cement, knowledge and tools

Gonna put a sz 8.5 dunk sole on a sz 9 blazer upper since the dunk sole is wider

Or if converse would go ahead and make more Pro Leathers I could just buy those

The moneys going to the same place anyway

I'm just wondering how hard it would be to take the sole OFF the blazers

It'll come off easy on the dunks

Considering the blazers are usually vulc I don’t think it would be much a problem, maybe a heat gun, some gloves, and a seam ripper in case you do run into some stitches, I think the most issues would be attaching the dunk sole to the blazer, you have to stitch it, may be more work than it’s worth, also barge cement may not be flexible enough to use for a shoe

[moonordie]

Current madness is trucks. I have been setting up different sizes. Got some Indy HF for 8/.125. Venture 5.8s for 8.5. Thunders for my 8.75. Got bushings worked out, all of them tuned like I like them.

But now I want to skate fucking 8.25/8.38s and need a fourth truck. Because I'm a lunatic it has to be a different brand. That's how I justify the madness--im simply trying all the brands to find my "forever truck". So I'm currently comparing Slappy and Ace/AF1 and looking for a sale. I can justify like 45-50 bucks, so I have to be smart about it. But then I also sort of pine for some regular ass Stage 11 144s. So basically I'm in option paralysis mode.

I've never skated Slappy. Had Ace classics I liked, but I really don't think I'm about them on a street/trick deck. And I'm staying away from weird niche brands, so no Theeve, Film, Lurpiv, etc

I'd go for AF1, there's no way I could skate a truck that sounds like I'm calling a dog.

[Sedition]

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Current madness is trucks. I have been setting up different sizes. Got some Indy HF for 8/.125. Venture 5.8s for 8.5. Thunders for my 8.75. Got bushings worked out, all of them tuned like I like them.

But now I want to skate fucking 8.25/8.38s and need a fourth truck. Because I'm a lunatic it has to be a different brand. That's how I justify the madness--im simply trying all the brands to find my "forever truck". So I'm currently comparing Slappy and Ace/AF1 and looking for a sale. I can justify like 45-50 bucks, so I have to be smart about it. But then I also sort of pine for some regular ass Stage 11 144s. So basically I'm in option paralysis mode.

I've never skated Slappy. Had Ace classics I liked, but I really don't think I'm about them on a street/trick deck. And I'm staying away from weird niche brands, so no Theeve, Film, Lurpiv, etc

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I'd go for AF1, there's no way I could skate a truck that sounds like I'm calling a dog.

There is no way I could skate a truck that sounds like I am calling a pet detective.

[Slave IV]

Current madness is trucks. I have been setting up different sizes. Got some Indy HF for 8/.125. Venture 5.8s for 8.5. Thunders for my 8.75. Got bushings worked out, all of them tuned like I like them.

But now I want to skate fucking 8.25/8.38s and need a fourth truck. Because I'm a lunatic it has to be a different brand. That's how I justify the madness--im simply trying all the brands to find my "forever truck". So I'm currently comparing Slappy and Ace/AF1 and looking for a sale. I can justify like 45-50 bucks, so I have to be smart about it. But then I also sort of pine for some regular ass Stage 11 144s. So basically I'm in option paralysis mode.

I've never skated Slappy. Had Ace classics I liked, but I really don't think I'm about them on a street/trick deck. And I'm staying away from weird niche brands, so no Theeve, Film, Lurpiv, etc

I thought my madness was cured with Tensor Maglight but they are gone and I only have them in 8.25 and it’s been no joy trying to find a 8.5” set. Even considering the standard set and using the hangers on the Maglight baseplates but can’t find any cheap enough to justify the cost, especially knowing they were all sold at Ollie’s for $5.
Now I’m in the exact same situation wanting to ride 8.3-8.4” decks and not having the right trucks for it. Was trying to source some 8.5” Indy hollow hangers to use on some old Stage 9 baseplates I have but same story trying to get those at a decent price. So now, my plan is to buy AF1 Hollow hangers since they recently made them available to replace my standard 8.25” AF1 hangers but that might not work for future decks I want with smaller WB. So when that time comes, unless I come across some 8.5” Maglights or compatible hangers, Slappy ST1 Hollows are looking to fill my need the best out of what’s left. I don’t care what the name of any truck brand is. Never made a difference to me as long as they work the way I want.

[swongolianbbq]

Please do it, I'd love to see the end result.

I only have these dunk SB outsoles right now


I do however have these which I think would look good


I'll probably just get some pairs from depop or something to Frankenstein together for a fun project this winter

[SwitchBenihana]

Indy's are my choice for curing madness since they're the most middle ground truck and a good reset. During Covid I'd lurk and try a lot of trucks and brands out, going in circles, but always came back to Indy and Thunders.

I have T2 as well now and I never skate them and think "well I can do this trick on that truck but not as good on this other one" and worry about the illusion of the "forever truck". Accept them for what they are and enjoy them for such.

[swongolianbbq]

I think for ~8" and smaller decks, and 14" and shorter wheelbases, venture lows and thunders w/ 50mm wheels are the jam, anything else would feel too tall/tippy for me, and the wheelbase would maybe be too squirrelly

My madness solution ended up just being Indy 149s

[Slave IV]

I think for ~8" and smaller decks, and 14" and shorter wheelbases, venture lows and thunders w/ 50mm wheels are the jam, anything else would feel too tall/tippy for me, and the wheelbase would maybe be too squirrelly

My madness solution ended up just being Indy 149s

I don't want 8" or smaller decks and for shorter wheelbases, Venture doesn't make lows wider than 8" and I don't want trucks skinner than my deck. I have a couple Thunders but I just don't love them. Other than the pinch, they aren't doing much for me. Wish someone would just reup Tensor Maglights, lol. Most likely going to try Slappy ST1 Hollows someday. Indy Forged Hollows are probably the easy solution for me but I don't want Indy's either unless I can frankenmake something out of what I have, which are some old Stage 9 7.6" I had from back in the day.

[TheCrimsonShroud]

Too many people to quote so fuck it.

I don't mind the name--I just pretend it's named after us/my favorite old man activity. I do have certain bones to pick with Ace though, stupid as that may be. I want individual parts for classics, not just AF1s. I also just don't want or need another 52-53mm truck. Hell, even my Indys are forged so 53.5.

As dumb as it is, there's still a tiny voice in my head that sees both Ace and Slappy as fine-tuned Indy ripoffs.

Thought about T2s but again, they just kinda seem like they're going for the Indy kids. So it's like, why don't I just ride fucking Indy.

I do love my Ventures for tech and park shit. I just fucking hate their grind on wild curbs and I don't always want to have to be super specific about deck dims to accommodate the extended WB.

[swongolianbbq]

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I think for ~8" and smaller decks, and 14" and shorter wheelbases, venture lows and thunders w/ 50mm wheels are the jam, anything else would feel too tall/tippy for me, and the wheelbase would maybe be too squirrelly

My madness solution ended up just being Indy 149s

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I don't want 8" or smaller decks and for shorter wheelbases, Venture doesn't make lows wider than 8" and I don't want trucks skinner than my deck. I have a couple Thunders but I just don't love them. Other than the pinch, they aren't doing much for me. Wish someone would just reup Tensor Maglights, lol. Most likely going to try Slappy ST1 Hollows someday. Indy Forged Hollows are probably the easy solution for me but I don't want Indy's either unless I can frankenmake something out of what I have, which are some old Stage 9 7.6" I had from back in the day.

I still don't know why venture doesn't make an 8.25" low

I loved the pinch on thunders but I broke a few of them at the pivot stem and the bushings always crumble, having the use more wax for where my wheels touch ledges..

Slappy's could be dope

[Hqjdncm]

Yea another thing is I miss being able to grind baseplate while doing nose and tail slides on my ventures, and honestly I think if I could figure the bushings out for ventures i might stick with them. I def have gotten used to the grind on pretty crusty ledges and curbs but I still wanna try other trucks too. But I know if I stick with something I am used to it will help me become more consistent. I’m honestly thinking about the venture v8s. I can bring the wheel base in a lil to get that baseplates slide again and I’m hoping those blue bushings are better than the purple. I posted in the venture thread about the purple ones cause I just can’t get them to feel right. But my local has some v8 6.1s so I might cop to just give it a try but I’m just gonna be bummed if I have the same problems. I just don’t wanna go back to Indy or ace cause of the weight.

[swongolianbbq]

Yea another thing is I miss being able to grind baseplate while doing nose and tail slides on my ventures, and honestly I think if I could figure the bushings out for ventures i might stick with them. I def have gotten used to the grind on pretty crusty ledges and curbs but I still wanna try other trucks too. But I know if I stick with something I am used to it will help me become more consistent. I’m honestly thinking about the venture v8s. I can bring the wheel base in a lil to get that baseplates slide again and I’m hoping those blue bushings are better than the purple. I posted in the venture thread about the purple ones cause I just can’t get them to feel right. But my local has some v8 6.1s so I might cop to just give it a try but I’m just gonna be bummed if I have the same problems. I just don’t wanna go back to Indy or ace cause of the weight.

Indy standards weigh 3 nickels heavier per truck than venture highs in the same size

V8s adjustable wheelbase doesn't affect baseplate slide

I was unaware it was an issue with ventures



I heard Indy bushings work good in ventures. I haven't skated Indy bushings in ventures in like 20 years so I don't really remember how that went but as far as I remember it was good

[Hqjdncm]

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Yea another thing is I miss being able to grind baseplate while doing nose and tail slides on my ventures, and honestly I think if I could figure the bushings out for ventures i might stick with them. I def have gotten used to the grind on pretty crusty ledges and curbs but I still wanna try other trucks too. But I know if I stick with something I am used to it will help me become more consistent. I’m honestly thinking about the venture v8s. I can bring the wheel base in a lil to get that baseplates slide again and I’m hoping those blue bushings are better than the purple. I posted in the venture thread about the purple ones cause I just can’t get them to feel right. But my local has some v8 6.1s so I might cop to just give it a try but I’m just gonna be bummed if I have the same problems. I just don’t wanna go back to Indy or ace cause of the weight.

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Indy standards weigh 3 nickels heavier per truck than venture highs in the same size

V8s adjustable wheelbase doesn't affect baseplate slide

I was unaware it was an issue with ventures



I heard Indy bushings work good in ventures. I haven't skated Indy bushings in ventures in like 20 years so I don't really remember how that went but as far as I remember it was good

Hahahah that’s funny
Idk why but it’s been an issue for me. I’m not used to the feeling of my wheels sliding on ledges 
It’s probably my technique but I can’t seem to get it’s to grind baseplate as much as Indy’s or ace. It felt like it would go right into baseplate on them. And bummer I thought I read somewhere that the v8s kinda helped with that. Maybe I’m crazy and made it up to fit the narrative to try them.

But I kinda told myself bushing madness is too far cause with Indy and ace I’ve never had to fuck with them. But maybe it’s time to give into the madness fully cause I like my ventures. But I did just hit axle so I’m getting ready for new trucks anyways

[Mbrimson88]

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Yea another thing is I miss being able to grind baseplate while doing nose and tail slides on my ventures, and honestly I think if I could figure the bushings out for ventures i might stick with them. I def have gotten used to the grind on pretty crusty ledges and curbs but I still wanna try other trucks too. But I know if I stick with something I am used to it will help me become more consistent. I’m honestly thinking about the venture v8s. I can bring the wheel base in a lil to get that baseplates slide again and I’m hoping those blue bushings are better than the purple. I posted in the venture thread about the purple ones cause I just can’t get them to feel right. But my local has some v8 6.1s so I might cop to just give it a try but I’m just gonna be bummed if I have the same problems. I just don’t wanna go back to Indy or ace cause of the weight.

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Indy standards weigh 3 nickels heavier per truck than venture highs in the same size

V8s adjustable wheelbase doesn't affect baseplate slide

I was unaware it was an issue with ventures



I heard Indy bushings work good in ventures. I haven't skated Indy bushings in ventures in like 20 years so I don't really remember how that went but as far as I remember it was good

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Hahahah that’s funny
Idk why but it’s been an issue for me. I’m not used to the feeling of my wheels sliding on ledges 
It’s probably my technique but I can’t seem to get it’s to grind baseplate as much as Indy’s or ace. It felt like it would go right into baseplate on them. And bummer I thought I read somewhere that the v8s kinda helped with that. Maybe I’m crazy and made it up to fit the narrative to try them.

But I kinda told myself bushing madness is too far cause with Indy and ace I’ve never had to fuck with them. But maybe it’s time to give into the madness fully cause I like my ventures. But I did just hit axle so I’m getting ready for new trucks anyways

For most boards with a drilled in baseplate (Venture V8 or my DIY Indy or others, it means the kick is longer and more often than not, you can sit more on the curve of the kick where it starts at the base of the bolts / flat part of the deck when sliding on ledges, rails or the like.

Some concaves of boards will allow for more slide but others actually make it a touch harder to slide with the baseplate right up against the obstacle or cause it to slip out more often, but changing technique will often result in a better slide as the kick - nose or tail - is longer so you have more room to sit on top of it.

Hope that makes sense, but testing a few options of my own with various drilled in baseplates, usually on BBS wood, so spoon shaped concave, some steeper boards might take a little more to get used to.  Some other brands / different woodshops will have a different feel, especially those that tend to have a lot of fingers of flat after the bolt holes with a smaller kick, as per a Quasi and a Sour board I tried, which I just didn't get along with either.  Others who skated them and were more used to the concave had no problems with them.


* There can also be quite a difference between a nice sharp skatepark or well made ledge edge which slides right on the bottom edge where the baseplate meets the deck, compared to a street spot, curb or other crusty type of thing, where it will eat further up on the baseplate as per that very well used Venture being chewed away over the pivot housing area - amazing work / pic of that too!!!

[Hqjdncm]

Yea that totally makes sense
And I’m skating prime wood blanks (I got 3 more to go through) so I’m planning on finding something that works really well on these dimensions so I can just stick with one setup forever. So I think I will try some v8s as I wish I had the tools to diy my own baseplates. But I’ve been also trying different wheels too. I just sized down and got some 53mm classic full f4’s and I’m hoping that kinda helps with the whole slide situation cause I’ve been on conicals for sooo long now. I appreciate all the input tho thanks guys

[swongolianbbq]

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Yea another thing is I miss being able to grind baseplate while doing nose and tail slides on my ventures, and honestly I think if I could figure the bushings out for ventures i might stick with them. I def have gotten used to the grind on pretty crusty ledges and curbs but I still wanna try other trucks too. But I know if I stick with something I am used to it will help me become more consistent. I’m honestly thinking about the venture v8s. I can bring the wheel base in a lil to get that baseplates slide again and I’m hoping those blue bushings are better than the purple. I posted in the venture thread about the purple ones cause I just can’t get them to feel right. But my local has some v8 6.1s so I might cop to just give it a try but I’m just gonna be bummed if I have the same problems. I just don’t wanna go back to Indy or ace cause of the weight.

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Indy standards weigh 3 nickels heavier per truck than venture highs in the same size

V8s adjustable wheelbase doesn't affect baseplate slide

I was unaware it was an issue with ventures



I heard Indy bushings work good in ventures. I haven't skated Indy bushings in ventures in like 20 years so I don't really remember how that went but as far as I remember it was good

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Hahahah that’s funny
Idk why but it’s been an issue for me. I’m not used to the feeling of my wheels sliding on ledges 
It’s probably my technique but I can’t seem to get it’s to grind baseplate as much as Indy’s or ace. It felt like it would go right into baseplate on them. And bummer I thought I read somewhere that the v8s kinda helped with that. Maybe I’m crazy and made it up to fit the narrative to try them.

But I kinda told myself bushing madness is too far cause with Indy and ace I’ve never had to fuck with them. But maybe it’s time to give into the madness fully cause I like my ventures. But I did just hit axle so I’m getting ready for new trucks anyways

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For most boards with a drilled in baseplate (Venture V8 or my DIY Indy or others, it means the kick is longer and more often than not, you can sit more on the curve of the kick where it starts at the base of the bolts / flat part of the deck when sliding on ledges, rails or the like.

Some concaves of boards will allow for more slide but others actually make it a touch harder to slide with the baseplate right up against the obstacle or cause it to slip out more often, but changing technique will often result in a better slide as the kick - nose or tail - is longer so you have more room to sit on top of it.

Hope that makes sense, but testing a few options of my own with various drilled in baseplates, usually on BBS wood, so spoon shaped concave, some steeper boards might take a little more to get used to.  Some other brands / different woodshops will have a different feel, especially those that tend to have a lot of fingers of flat after the bolt holes with a smaller kick, as per a Quasi and a Sour board I tried, which I just didn't get along with either.  Others who skated them and were more used to the concave had no problems with them.


* There can also be quite a difference between a nice sharp skatepark or well made ledge edge which slides right on the bottom edge where the baseplate meets the deck, compared to a street spot, curb or other crusty type of thing, where it will eat further up on the baseplate as per that very well used Venture being chewed away over the pivot housing area - amazing work / pic of that too!!!

I thought of that too, how the length and where the bend starts affecting how you sit on a ledge with the V8 style plates, it's interesting


That pic is from someone else on here, I saved it a while ago but can't remember the name!

[Bongwater Mojito]

My madness solution ended up just being Indy 149s

I feel similarly. Spent few months on Ace AF1s again. I like the turn among many other things but I just could not get my kickflips consistent, no matter what. Then switched back to Indys and it's on point during first session.

I'm still pondering between 144s on 8.125 and 149s on 8.25/8.38 though...

[swongolianbbq]

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My madness solution ended up just being Indy 149s

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I feel similarly. Spent few months on Ace AF1s again. I like the turn among many other things but I just could not get my kickflips consistent, no matter what. Then switched back to Indys and it's on point during first session.

I'm still pondering between 144s on 8.125 and 149s on 8.25/8.38 though...

I spent 2 years on AF1 55s before going back to Indy, before that I was only skating indys for like 10 years straight, then there was a couple years where I skated thunders but I kept breaking them, before thunders was a couple years of stage 7s and 8s and my first trucks were venture lows

I think I'm just too used to Indy now and may as well accept it

I do like the AF1's with the hard bushings, nut flush

I don't like how far on they articulate for crooked grinds or the sucked in wheelbase so much though but they're great trucks

I'd say stick with the 149s honestly you could probably still rock an 8.125 with them if you're running smaller wheels

If you're gonna be running 56mm radial fulls or something I'd just get 8.5 decks but a 8.25" matches perfectly and I skated a whole bunch of those baker 8.25 og mellows with indys

Also you can get BBS blanks in 8.25 with 14, or 14.25 wb

I still kind of disregard the existence of 144s just cause I was so used to them not existing before.. 146s were chill but I don't miss the axle slip, broken kingpins,.and one time I broke a hanger right down the middle. When I was like 15 and weighed less than 140 pounds

[rikki]

My madness solution ended up just being Indy Standard 149s

This is the way. Edited for exactness.

[Slave IV]

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Yea another thing is I miss being able to grind baseplate while doing nose and tail slides on my ventures, and honestly I think if I could figure the bushings out for ventures i might stick with them. I def have gotten used to the grind on pretty crusty ledges and curbs but I still wanna try other trucks too. But I know if I stick with something I am used to it will help me become more consistent. I’m honestly thinking about the venture v8s. I can bring the wheel base in a lil to get that baseplates slide again and I’m hoping those blue bushings are better than the purple. I posted in the venture thread about the purple ones cause I just can’t get them to feel right. But my local has some v8 6.1s so I might cop to just give it a try but I’m just gonna be bummed if I have the same problems. I just don’t wanna go back to Indy or ace cause of the weight.

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Indy standards weigh 3 nickels heavier per truck than venture highs in the same size

V8s adjustable wheelbase doesn't affect baseplate slide

I was unaware it was an issue with ventures



I heard Indy bushings work good in ventures. I haven't skated Indy bushings in ventures in like 20 years so I don't really remember how that went but as far as I remember it was good

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Hahahah that’s funny
Idk why but it’s been an issue for me. I’m not used to the feeling of my wheels sliding on ledges 
It’s probably my technique but I can’t seem to get it’s to grind baseplate as much as Indy’s or ace. It felt like it would go right into baseplate on them. And bummer I thought I read somewhere that the v8s kinda helped with that. Maybe I’m crazy and made it up to fit the narrative to try them.

But I kinda told myself bushing madness is too far cause with Indy and ace I’ve never had to fuck with them. But maybe it’s time to give into the madness fully cause I like my ventures. But I did just hit axle so I’m getting ready for new trucks anyways

Just think about it.
It doesn’t matter where the baseplate holes are, the baseplate to wheel clearance is always the same.

[Hqjdncm]

Yea I understand that redrilling baseplates wouldn’t push the wheels past the baseplate, I know it wouldn’t magically add metal, but I thought I read somewhere that they added more metal upfront by the pivot cup on v8s so that they slide more on the baseplate. As well as rounded that same pivot cup housing so it wouldn’t hang up on slides. Unless I’m remembering wrong but I distinctly remember. Plz tho correct me if I’m wrong

[swongolianbbq]

Yea I understand that redrilling baseplates wouldn’t push the wheels past the baseplate, I know it wouldn’t magically add metal, but I thought I read somewhere that they added more metal upfront by the pivot cup on v8s so that they slide more on the baseplate. As well as rounded that same pivot cup housing so it wouldn’t hang up on slides. Unless I’m remembering wrong but I distinctly remember. Plz tho correct me if I’m wrong

Ahh yeah true so if you use the v8s in the longer wheelbase config then yeah, that makes sense

[Bongwater Mojito]

I think I'm just too used to Indy now and may as well accept it

I'd paraphrase the Serenity Prayer here, this is the Gear Madness Prayer:

Slap,
grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
the courage to change the things I can,
and the wisdom to know the difference

[swongolianbbq]

I think 149s are the most versatile cause I can use them on 8.25 or 8.5, or a shaped 9+ with any size wheel and it still looks/feels right

Always tempted to do a baker 3 style setup, 51mm classics on 139s

I feel like so many dudes were running that exact combo then

Reynolds, spanky, Ellington, dollin? Etc

Herman on thunder low 147s and 8.25 deck back then
Spanky on Indy 139s and 8.25? back then with 51mm wheels
Reynolds and Ellington on the 8.475 on 139s, Reynolds with 50-51mm wheels
Leo Romero was riding 129s for a hot minute and people gave him shit for it
Greco was 139s also I believe

I feel like 129s and 139s are the modern '93-onward truck and the best example of trucks in those sizes is venture lows

I think I just want my board to be lighter and flippier sometimes

I should really just focus on my fitness

It's like before 8" trucks existed they just made the wheels really small in '91-'92 and then the boards started getting smaller too, then the 8" trucks started coming out in '93 I think with the 6-hole baseplates, so the wheels started getting bigger again

When I get the urge to try 139s, I should just put together this setup:

149s
51mm classics
8.25 x 14.25 deck

The 149s are heavier, wider trucks, but it should feel a lot lighter, enough to cure a temporary madness

I think I should have two sets of 149 standards at all times, one bolted to an 8.25 and the other to an 8.5... and then 3 sets of wheels, ~50, ~53, ~56(93a or 97a)

Then I could try different combinations if I want without ever changing the truck

I feel like 51s on 149s prolly looks super '91 and makes them look wider than they are