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Re: Slappy trucks (Mike Sinclair's new brand)
« Reply #540 on: January 08, 2025, 01:27:18 PM »
That chart is bs. This is more based on reality.

Ace Classic +2.75"
Ace AF1 +3.0"
Indy Standard +3.0“
Indy Forged +3.125“
Lurpiv +3.125”
Royals +3.125”
Slappy +3.125
Thunder cast +3.125”
Thunder forged +3.25"
Venture cast +3.2”
Venture forged +3.4”

Damn. So my thunders wouldn't feel to different?
We rode 7.5's" and didn't complain.

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Re: Slappy trucks (Mike Sinclair's new brand)
« Reply #541 on: January 08, 2025, 01:47:54 PM »
depends. slappys kinda dawdle a bit at the top of the turn, and then articulate back like an ace around the pinch (minimizes wheelbite). it feels flat when youre just twitching on top, whereas a thunder feels carvy up top (if im remembering correctly. and theyre a little taller than the regular thunders too
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Re: Slappy trucks (Mike Sinclair's new brand)
« Reply #542 on: January 08, 2025, 02:04:17 PM »
I feel ya. More so talking about the pop feel. Figured i would get the same pinch and turn as an indy.
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Re: Slappy trucks (Mike Sinclair's new brand)
« Reply #543 on: January 09, 2025, 12:00:10 AM »
How are the Slappy stock bushings? Does getting Slappys result in instant bushing madness?

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Re: Slappy trucks (Mike Sinclair's new brand)
« Reply #544 on: January 09, 2025, 04:06:05 AM »
How are the Slappy stock bushings? Does getting Slappys result in instant bushing madness?

Standard Bushing are nice, they don't need break in from my personal experience

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Re: Slappy trucks (Mike Sinclair's new brand)
« Reply #545 on: January 09, 2025, 07:29:56 PM »
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Here is a photo of the bottom of the Low baseplate , hopefully you can see what I mean - either way tho- should def be able to put a hex head in …

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Cool, thanks! The cavity doesn't look deep enough to not have the nut dig into board (like trying to get thunder forged plates working with an IKP).

Gonna hold until at least the forged lows hit (they are coming)...be cool to see a forged IKP low. For now I'm bacak on forged mindys with a hollow slappy pin, shittier GC and a few grams heavier but it'll do for now. Kinda off regular slappies now, they're amazing, but I can really feel the height diff stepping on them or regular (even forged indys). Apparently my muscle memory still prefers thos only thunder 149ers ;)

Yo - old sub-convo here but last night I knocked out the kingpin on my Low baseplate and even tho I personally am not doing IKP , I did throw the nut in the baseplate to make sure it would sit flush in that hex recess, without contacting the board - and it does . I have some photos if ya wanna see , just say the word

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Re: Slappy trucks (Mike Sinclair's new brand)
« Reply #546 on: January 09, 2025, 11:43:55 PM »
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Here is a photo of the bottom of the Low baseplate , hopefully you can see what I mean - either way tho- should def be able to put a hex head in …

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And sorry for the dog hair on there lol .. I promise those aren’t my Arctic white body hairs 😆
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Cool, thanks! The cavity doesn't look deep enough to not have the nut dig into board (like trying to get thunder forged plates working with an IKP).

Gonna hold until at least the forged lows hit (they are coming)...be cool to see a forged IKP low. For now I'm bacak on forged mindys with a hollow slappy pin, shittier GC and a few grams heavier but it'll do for now. Kinda off regular slappies now, they're amazing, but I can really feel the height diff stepping on them or regular (even forged indys). Apparently my muscle memory still prefers thos only thunder 149ers ;)
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Yo - old sub-convo here but last night I knocked out the kingpin on my Low baseplate and even tho I personally am not doing IKP , I did throw the nut in the baseplate to make sure it would sit flush in that hex recess, without contacting the board - and it does . I have some photos if ya wanna see , just say the word
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Re: Slappy trucks (Mike Sinclair's new brand)
« Reply #547 on: January 10, 2025, 07:23:42 AM »
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Here is a photo of the bottom of the Low baseplate , hopefully you can see what I mean - either way tho- should def be able to put a hex head in …

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And sorry for the dog hair on there lol .. I promise those aren’t my Arctic white body hairs 😆
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Cool, thanks! The cavity doesn't look deep enough to not have the nut dig into board (like trying to get thunder forged plates working with an IKP).

Gonna hold until at least the forged lows hit (they are coming)...be cool to see a forged IKP low. For now I'm bacak on forged mindys with a hollow slappy pin, shittier GC and a few grams heavier but it'll do for now. Kinda off regular slappies now, they're amazing, but I can really feel the height diff stepping on them or regular (even forged indys). Apparently my muscle memory still prefers thos only thunder 149ers ;)
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Yo - old sub-convo here but last night I knocked out the kingpin on my Low baseplate and even tho I personally am not doing IKP , I did throw the nut in the baseplate to make sure it would sit flush in that hex recess, without contacting the board - and it does . I have some photos if ya wanna see , just say the word
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As well as “please & thank you.”

here ya go --let me know if these photos are too small, I gotta figure out/remember how best to add photos here ...

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Re: Slappy trucks (Mike Sinclair's new brand)
« Reply #548 on: January 10, 2025, 07:44:19 AM »
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That chart is bs. This is more based on reality.

Ace Classic +2.75"
Ace AF1 +3.0"
Indy Standard +3.0“
Indy Forged +3.125“
Lurpiv +3.125”
Royals +3.125”
Slappy +3.125
Thunder cast +3.125”
Thunder forged +3.25"
Venture cast +3.2”
Venture forged +3.4”
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Damn. So my thunders wouldn't feel to different?

Slappys are also 1mm higher and have different style of bushing (Thunders use 2 barrel style, where Slappy uses the classic Cylinder on the bottom, barrel on top). Thunders weigh ~25g less (381g vs 357g on a 8.25" axle truck)

Thunders feel like they hardly turn to me when they are brand new, but I think Slappys are known to turn quite well out the gate.

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Re: Slappy trucks (Mike Sinclair's new brand)
« Reply #549 on: January 10, 2025, 08:12:01 AM »
That chart is bs. This is more based on reality.

Ace Classic +2.75"
Ace AF1 +3.0"
Indy Standard +3.0“
Indy Forged +3.125“
Lurpiv +3.125”
Royals +3.125”
Slappy +3.125
Thunder cast +3.125”
Thunder forged +3.25"
Venture cast +3.2”
Venture forged +3.4”

Also, not to pollute with even more conflicting info, haha..  but I've done a shitload of measuring myself on my setups, I can tell you that the difference between Ace AF1 and Slappy ST1 is actually 0.25" ..

this is from measuring both sides , axle-to axle, on the same board, as well as comparing two set ups side by side (flipping them each over to get both sides compared etc):
 a PS Stix full shape 8.5/ 14.25wb/ Slappy ST1 is dead to nuts same effective wb as a PS Stix full shape 8.5/ 14.5wb / Ace Af1 ...

AND .. I've never seen anyone but myself mention this , and Slappy doesn't advertise it, but the Slappy Lows, from my measuring have a very slightly shorter effective wheelbase (1/16" per truck , so 1/8" on a set up) than the ST1's . Do with that what ya will..
and this is nerdy as fuck but I have used that to "micro-tune" (I feel like a dipshit even writing that, but whatever) my set ups .. I actually am currently running an ST1 hollow in the front and a Low in the rear with a Slappy Slab 4mm riser (to equal the front truck height of 54mm).

And yes Ive lost my mind but I get the sense im not totally alone up in this bish  :)

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Re: Slappy trucks (Mike Sinclair's new brand)
« Reply #550 on: January 10, 2025, 11:03:59 AM »
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That chart is bs. This is more based on reality.

Ace Classic +2.75"
Ace AF1 +3.0"
Indy Standard +3.0“
Indy Forged +3.125“
Lurpiv +3.125”
Royals +3.125”
Slappy +3.125
Thunder cast +3.125”
Thunder forged +3.25"
Venture cast +3.2”
Venture forged +3.4”
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Also, not to pollute with even more conflicting info, haha..  but I've done a shitload of measuring myself on my setups, I can tell you that the difference between Ace AF1 and Slappy ST1 is actually 0.25" ..

this is from measuring both sides , axle-to axle, on the same board, as well as comparing two set ups side by side (flipping them each over to get both sides compared etc):
 a PS Stix full shape 8.5/ 14.25wb/ Slappy ST1 is dead to nuts same effective wb as a PS Stix full shape 8.5/ 14.5wb / Ace Af1 ...

AND .. I've never seen anyone but myself mention this , and Slappy doesn't advertise it, but the Slappy Lows, from my measuring have a very slightly shorter effective wheelbase (1/16" per truck , so 1/8" on a set up) than the ST1's . Do with that what ya will..
and this is nerdy as fuck but I have used that to "micro-tune" (I feel like a dipshit even writing that, but whatever) my set ups .. I actually am currently running an ST1 hollow in the front and a Low in the rear with a Slappy Slab 4mm riser (to equal the front truck height of 54mm).

And yes Ive lost my mind but I get the sense im not totally alone up in this bish  :)

You could mean 2 things from that statement - either AF1 are +2.875", or Slappy are +3.25"
Or both numbers or wrong...
i kinda doubt that? Everything on this chart seems to line up with what I have noticed in reality but i havent had them all out together either to test all at once (yet...)

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Re: Slappy trucks (Mike Sinclair's new brand)
« Reply #551 on: January 10, 2025, 11:30:09 AM »
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That chart is bs. This is more based on reality.

Ace Classic +2.75"
Ace AF1 +3.0"
Indy Standard +3.0“
Indy Forged +3.125“
Lurpiv +3.125”
Royals +3.125”
Slappy +3.125
Thunder cast +3.125”
Thunder forged +3.25"
Venture cast +3.2”
Venture forged +3.4”
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Also, not to pollute with even more conflicting info, haha..  but I've done a shitload of measuring myself on my setups, I can tell you that the difference between Ace AF1 and Slappy ST1 is actually 0.25" ..

this is from measuring both sides , axle-to axle, on the same board, as well as comparing two set ups side by side (flipping them each over to get both sides compared etc):
 a PS Stix full shape 8.5/ 14.25wb/ Slappy ST1 is dead to nuts same effective wb as a PS Stix full shape 8.5/ 14.5wb / Ace Af1 ...

AND .. I've never seen anyone but myself mention this , and Slappy doesn't advertise it, but the Slappy Lows, from my measuring have a very slightly shorter effective wheelbase (1/16" per truck , so 1/8" on a set up) than the ST1's . Do with that what ya will..
and this is nerdy as fuck but I have used that to "micro-tune" (I feel like a dipshit even writing that, but whatever) my set ups .. I actually am currently running an ST1 hollow in the front and a Low in the rear with a Slappy Slab 4mm riser (to equal the front truck height of 54mm).

And yes Ive lost my mind but I get the sense im not totally alone up in this bish  :)
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You could mean 2 things from that statement - either AF1 are +2.875", or Slappy are +3.25"
Or both numbers or wrong...
i kinda doubt that? Everything on this chart seems to line up with what I have noticed in reality but i havent had them all out together either to test all at once (yet...)

Yeah I don't know which stated measurement is wrong tbh, I don't really measure to a set starting distance per se, like this chart, or Paul Schmitt on his doodad.
I just have ridden Ace AF1 for a long time before switching to Slappy, so Ace AF1 is my "zero" of sorts .. I only know how much additional wheelbase ive gained on the Slappys .. if that makes sense.

so yeah just stating that I def have consistently gotten +.25" of wheelbase additionally from ST1's , and +.125" of wheelbase from Slappy Lows (when compared to AF1s) .. so whatevs!

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Re: Slappy trucks (Mike Sinclair's new brand)
« Reply #552 on: January 13, 2025, 08:21:12 AM »
is 90a the stock bushing hardness? cant seem to find anything about the duro in the search

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Re: Slappy trucks (Mike Sinclair's new brand)
« Reply #553 on: January 13, 2025, 12:09:17 PM »
is 90a the stock bushing hardness? cant seem to find anything about the duro in the search

On Skatewarehouse the little blurb for the 90a bushings says standard bushing for a controlled turn, the 85 says something about softer.

I also want to say they did 100a 90a and maybe 85a at the initial group of bushings they offered so I’d have to think the 90 are what’s stock.

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Re: Slappy trucks (Mike Sinclair's new brand)
« Reply #554 on: January 13, 2025, 05:16:12 PM »
I got 4 good sessions on the slappy lows. I pretty sure thunder lights will be my forever truck. But you miss 100% of the shots you don't take. Might as well try another one. To call this a low truck is questionable. Maybe "low"er than the standard slappy. Height is not to far off from my thunder 8"ers. Pop feels similar. A slight retune on timing. I did set up new wheels when bolting the trucks on. So I expected to be hating life for the next month. Pinch feels like a mix between a thunder and indy. I'm not missing and going into noseslide as I often did skating indys. I can't just throw my heel at the ledge and be locked in like a thunder or venture. Turning is...okay. I haven't really thought about it. Not an indy or ace turn. Better than a thunder. Definitely Getting away with more landing sketchy than on thunders. The gimmick is these trucks don't wheelbite. Or atleast the standard height ones. Alright, I don't think I've wheel bit once. 52mm wheels. You get this dead stopping zone when you lean to either side. I ride medium loose trucks. I'll lean all my weight to one side and i'm tipping my board over before the wheels touch the board. No marks on my wheels from hitting my graphic. Or any marks on my board from wheelbiting. Also a BIG huge kudos to the guys desiging this truck for pre greasing the kingpin. Look down at my truck while skating and the fucking grease is oozing out. What other brand does that.
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Re: Slappy trucks (Mike Sinclair's new brand)
« Reply #555 on: January 13, 2025, 06:49:19 PM »
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is 90a the stock bushing hardness? cant seem to find anything about the duro in the search
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On Skatewarehouse the little blurb for the 90a bushings says standard bushing for a controlled turn, the 85 says something about softer.

I also want to say they did 100a 90a and maybe 85a at the initial group of bushings they offered so I’d have to think the 90 are what’s stock.

90s are stock
85/95/100 are aftermarkets

95s are def the sweet spot for me at 195lbs, the 100s, like the thunder 100s and the even the krux/indy 96s are just straight up rocks.

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Re: Slappy trucks (Mike Sinclair's new brand)
« Reply #556 on: January 14, 2025, 07:33:13 AM »
I got 4 good sessions on the slappy lows. I pretty sure thunder lights will be my forever truck. But you miss 100% of the shots you don't take. Might as well try another one. To call this a low truck is questionable. Maybe "low"er than the standard slappy. Height is not to far off from my thunder 8"ers. Pop feels similar. A slight retune on timing. I did set up new wheels when bolting the trucks on. So I expected to be hating life for the next month. Pinch feels like a mix between a thunder and indy. I'm not missing and going into noseslide as I often did skating indys. I can't just throw my heel at the ledge and be locked in like a thunder or venture. Turning is...okay. I haven't really thought about it. Not an indy or ace turn. Better than a thunder. Definitely Getting away with more landing sketchy than on thunders. The gimmick is these trucks don't wheelbite. Or atleast the standard height ones. Alright, I don't think I've wheel bit once. 52mm wheels. You get this dead stopping zone when you lean to either side. I ride medium loose trucks. I'll lean all my weight to one side and i'm tipping my board over before the wheels touch the board. No marks on my wheels from hitting my graphic. Or any marks on my board from wheelbiting. Also a BIG huge kudos to the guys desiging this truck for pre greasing the kingpin. Look down at my truck while skating and the fucking grease is oozing out. What other brand does that.
Nice review. For the Slappy Lows (or maybe any Slappy) do you slide on the baseplate for nose/tailslides, or is it all-wheel like Thunders?

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Re: Slappy trucks (Mike Sinclair's new brand)
« Reply #557 on: January 14, 2025, 09:09:10 AM »
I got 4 good sessions on the slappy lows. I pretty sure thunder lights will be my forever truck. But you miss 100% of the shots you don't take. Might as well try another one. To call this a low truck is questionable. Maybe "low"er than the standard slappy. Height is not to far off from my thunder 8"ers. Pop feels similar. A slight retune on timing. I did set up new wheels when bolting the trucks on. So I expected to be hating life for the next month. Pinch feels like a mix between a thunder and indy. I'm not missing and going into noseslide as I often did skating indys. I can't just throw my heel at the ledge and be locked in like a thunder or venture. Turning is...okay. I haven't really thought about it. Not an indy or ace turn. Better than a thunder. Definitely Getting away with more landing sketchy than on thunders. The gimmick is these trucks don't wheelbite. Or atleast the standard height ones. Alright, I don't think I've wheel bit once. 52mm wheels. You get this dead stopping zone when you lean to either side. I ride medium loose trucks. I'll lean all my weight to one side and i'm tipping my board over before the wheels touch the board. No marks on my wheels from hitting my graphic. Or any marks on my board from wheelbiting. Also a BIG huge kudos to the guys desiging this truck for pre greasing the kingpin. Look down at my truck while skating and the fucking grease is oozing out. What other brand does that.

Appreciate this review. Been curious about the lows. Wish they'd sell em with a solid axle.

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Re: Slappy trucks (Mike Sinclair's new brand)
« Reply #558 on: January 14, 2025, 01:11:55 PM »
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Nice review. For the Slappy Lows (or maybe any Slappy) do you slide on the baseplate for nose/tailslides, or is it all-wheel like Thunders?

Baseplate. Good amount of wiggle room in all directions. Popping out of front tails to reg and fakie felt really good. Actually getting a good dip and then popping out of em. Feels like more of my tails is on the ledge. I felt this when dropping in a ramp. Put my board down and just putting my foot on the tail I could feel more room.
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Re: Slappy trucks (Mike Sinclair's new brand)
« Reply #559 on: January 16, 2025, 04:46:31 AM »
I got 4 good sessions on the slappy lows. I pretty sure thunder lights will be my forever truck. But you miss 100% of the shots you don't take. Might as well try another one. To call this a low truck is questionable. Maybe "low"er than the standard slappy. Height is not to far off from my thunder 8"ers. Pop feels similar. A slight retune on timing. I did set up new wheels when bolting the trucks on. So I expected to be hating life for the next month. Pinch feels like a mix between a thunder and indy. I'm not missing and going into noseslide as I often did skating indys. I can't just throw my heel at the ledge and be locked in like a thunder or venture. Turning is...okay. I haven't really thought about it. Not an indy or ace turn. Better than a thunder. Definitely Getting away with more landing sketchy than on thunders. The gimmick is these trucks don't wheelbite. Or atleast the standard height ones. Alright, I don't think I've wheel bit once. 52mm wheels. You get this dead stopping zone when you lean to either side. I ride medium loose trucks. I'll lean all my weight to one side and i'm tipping my board over before the wheels touch the board. No marks on my wheels from hitting my graphic. Or any marks on my board from wheelbiting. Also a BIG huge kudos to the guys desiging this truck for pre greasing the kingpin. Look down at my truck while skating and the fucking grease is oozing out. What other brand does that.

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Re: Slappy trucks (Mike Sinclair's new brand)
« Reply #560 on: January 16, 2025, 06:12:06 AM »
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How are the Slappy stock bushings? Does getting Slappys result in instant bushing madness?
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Standard Bushing are nice, they don't need break in from my personal experience
How about weather wise? In my experience Ace don't struggle with weather unlike Indy's. If Slappy's are not affected they might be an alternative.
Waiting for the weather to improve so I can try Lurpivs but the tiny kingpin clearance is already annoying me.
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Re: Slappy trucks (Mike Sinclair's new brand)
« Reply #561 on: January 16, 2025, 06:32:32 PM »
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I got 4 good sessions on the slappy lows. I pretty sure thunder lights will be my forever truck. But you miss 100% of the shots you don't take. Might as well try another one. To call this a low truck is questionable. Maybe "low"er than the standard slappy. Height is not to far off from my thunder 8"ers. Pop feels similar. A slight retune on timing. I did set up new wheels when bolting the trucks on. So I expected to be hating life for the next month. Pinch feels like a mix between a thunder and indy. I'm not missing and going into noseslide as I often did skating indys. I can't just throw my heel at the ledge and be locked in like a thunder or venture. Turning is...okay. I haven't really thought about it. Not an indy or ace turn. Better than a thunder. Definitely Getting away with more landing sketchy than on thunders. The gimmick is these trucks don't wheelbite. Or atleast the standard height ones. Alright, I don't think I've wheel bit once. 52mm wheels. You get this dead stopping zone when you lean to either side. I ride medium loose trucks. I'll lean all my weight to one side and i'm tipping my board over before the wheels touch the board. No marks on my wheels from hitting my graphic. Or any marks on my board from wheelbiting. Also a BIG huge kudos to the guys desiging this truck for pre greasing the kingpin. Look down at my truck while skating and the fucking grease is oozing out. What other brand does that.
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I gotta stay outta these truck threads, seeing shit like this makes me rethink my entire identity, starting with my truck choice

The lows are great, truly. @marcusbutler is spot on. The only diff I can feel between these and the regular is the height; lows are timed more like thunder and not wheelbite...to a point. The highs/regs do turn better as being taller you get a bit more room to dive, if you dive on the lows you will wheelbite eventually.

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Re: Slappy trucks (Mike Sinclair's new brand)
« Reply #562 on: January 18, 2025, 01:00:25 AM »
@xen how do you compare them to the royal ? They are slight lower from what I understand ?
 I really like my ultralight that I got after reading your recommendation. I’d just like a bit more turn but I guess the downturn is usually less stability

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Re: Slappy trucks (Mike Sinclair's new brand)
« Reply #563 on: January 31, 2025, 09:16:37 AM »
@Xen how do you compare them to the royal ? They are slight lower from what I understand ?
 I really like my ultralight that I got after reading your recommendation. I’d just like a bit more turn but I guess the downturn is usually less stability


I've two G053s setup (gotta love the 2-for sales), same grip and wheel size: 51/52'ish mm/99a, one with 149 Slappy Lows/slappy 95a bushings the other with 149 IKP royals and ACE 94/hard bushings. I tried regular height IKP plates first and for whatever reason I just prefer the mid/low truck height feel; smaller wheels didn't help the taller plates either.

Slappys are heavier, lower, of course, turn more, grind better (subjective), better grind clearance (objective)
Royals are lighter more stable (even the IKP, tho I run hollow hangers), grind fine, pinch better, but have average to worse grind clearance (IKP is better of course).

Wheelbite for each is a wash for me, it still happens, but more so on the Royals.

TL;DR
The problem is, I like how both feel but if you want more turn, specifically that ACE/Indy/ML turn, Slappy lows would be the best bet. Are you still running stock royal bushings? They're turny AF with them.

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Re: Slappy trucks (Mike Sinclair's new brand)
« Reply #564 on: February 02, 2025, 09:49:45 AM »
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@Xen how do you compare them to the royal ? They are slight lower from what I understand ?
 I really like my ultralight that I got after reading your recommendation. I’d just like a bit more turn but I guess the downturn is usually less stability

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I've two G053s setup (gotta love the 2-for sales), same grip and wheel size: 51/52'ish mm/99a, one with 149 Slappy Lows/slappy 95a bushings the other with 149 IKP royals and ACE 94/hard bushings. I tried regular height IKP plates first and for whatever reason I just prefer the mid/low truck height feel; smaller wheels didn't help the taller plates either.

Slappys are heavier, lower, of course, turn more, grind better (subjective), better grind clearance (objective)
Royals are lighter more stable (even the IKP, tho I run hollow hangers), grind fine, pinch better, but have average to worse grind clearance (IKP is better of course).

Wheelbite for each is a wash for me, it still happens, but more so on the Royals.

TL;DR
The problem is, I like how both feel but if you want more turn, specifically that ACE/Indy/ML turn, Slappy lows would be the best bet. Are you still running stock royal bushings? They're turny AF with them.

Thanks ! Always nice to read trucks reviews / compared from you !
I used ace hard as the original bushing were a bit soft so I had to tighten them quite a bit. But I think I got used to my trucks being too tight (even flushed, I’m 70kg) hence the lack of turn. I guess I should get used to my trucks a bit more loose before swapping to trucks with a nicer turn.
I got the Slappy low + lurpiv out of a very sudden decision so I’ll have to try them at some point ;)
The Slappy low seem to be more or less same height as the royal when putting next to each other, lurpiv are another category ;)

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Re: Slappy trucks (Mike Sinclair's new brand)
« Reply #565 on: February 02, 2025, 01:37:06 PM »
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@Xen how do you compare them to the royal ? They are slight lower from what I understand ?
 I really like my ultralight that I got after reading your recommendation. I’d just like a bit more turn but I guess the downturn is usually less stability

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I've two G053s setup (gotta love the 2-for sales), same grip and wheel size: 51/52'ish mm/99a, one with 149 Slappy Lows/slappy 95a bushings the other with 149 IKP royals and ACE 94/hard bushings. I tried regular height IKP plates first and for whatever reason I just prefer the mid/low truck height feel; smaller wheels didn't help the taller plates either.

Slappys are heavier, lower, of course, turn more, grind better (subjective), better grind clearance (objective)
Royals are lighter more stable (even the IKP, tho I run hollow hangers), grind fine, pinch better, but have average to worse grind clearance (IKP is better of course).

Wheelbite for each is a wash for me, it still happens, but more so on the Royals.

TL;DR
The problem is, I like how both feel but if you want more turn, specifically that ACE/Indy/ML turn, Slappy lows would be the best bet. Are you still running stock royal bushings? They're turny AF with them.
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Thanks ! Always nice to read trucks reviews / compared from you !
I used ace hard as the original bushing were a bit soft so I had to tighten them quite a bit. But I think I got used to my trucks being too tight (even flushed, I’m 70kg) hence the lack of turn. I guess I should get used to my trucks a bit more loose before swapping to trucks with a nicer turn.
I got the Slappy low + lurpiv out of a very sudden decision so I’ll have to try them at some point ;)
The Slappy low seem to be more or less same height as the royal when putting next to each other, lurpiv are another category ;)

Slappy lows are 49.9mm, Royals are 52mm, so there is a decent amount of height difference. 2mm can mean a lot in wheels, but hovering around that 49-52 mm range (ML/Royal/Thunder/venture forged/slappy, it's not so crazy a difference.

I ran the slappy lows with 2mm risers and couldn't tell the difference tbh.

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Re: Slappy trucks (Mike Sinclair's new brand)
« Reply #566 on: February 02, 2025, 01:58:56 PM »
I compared them to to thunder hollow light , which are supposed to be 52.3. Could one of the measure be wrong? because the Slappy are very slightly taller than thunder. I can’t remember how different were the royal but from what I remember the axles were aligned

I took a pic with the thunder h light

https://ibb.co/Q3TR7BTv

Oh and BTW im sure im way to bad of a skater to notice any of that when skating 😅


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Re: Slappy trucks (Mike Sinclair's new brand)
« Reply #567 on: February 03, 2025, 12:15:57 AM »
Forged is an mm shorter. So 51 vs 50? One side of the truck could be askew.
We rode 7.5's" and didn't complain.

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Re: Slappy trucks (Mike Sinclair's new brand)
« Reply #568 on: February 13, 2025, 12:32:28 PM »
Been running the Slappy lows with 2mm risers (was using the 1/16th ACE soft shock pads but traded up for the hard 2mm slappy ones); it's perfect for me this way (and closer to the forged mindy 50.5mm which really gel'd with). 51.9MM so right there at the Royal/Thunder team height pop sweetspot.
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Re: Slappy trucks (Mike Sinclair's new brand)
« Reply #569 on: March 02, 2025, 06:19:21 PM »
Taking a beat from acer.

"Skateboarding just got easier! Here is the first look at SLAPPY trucks new inverted hollow kingpin complete with a newly designed lower top bushing. The new inverted hollow kingpin removes all kingpin snags and hang ups traditional kingpins give you and its new design gives you the best grind clearance possible. The new Ultra Low Inverted Hollow Kingpin will be available this summer / July and will come standard on the Inverted Forged Hollow Lights. The new Ultra Low Kingpin is designed and heavily tested by skateboarders for skateboarders complete with longer threads for looser and tighter truck options. The new Ultra Low Inverted Hollow kingpin will also be available separately to upgrade other trucks brands that offer inverted kingpin options. Slappy Trucks the Gold Standard in grind clearance."



Hopfully it doesn't bind, the current ACER Ti pin doesn't work with slappys (it binds)
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