Slappy trucks (Mike Sinclair's new brand)

[rawbertson.]

Taking a beat from acer.

"Skateboarding just got easier! Here is the first look at SLAPPY trucks new inverted hollow kingpin complete with a newly designed lower top bushing. The new inverted hollow kingpin removes all kingpin snags and hang ups traditional kingpins give you and its new design gives you the best grind clearance possible. The new Ultra Low Inverted Hollow Kingpin will be available this summer / July and will come standard on the Inverted Forged Hollow Lights. The new Ultra Low Kingpin is designed and heavily tested by skateboarders for skateboarders complete with longer threads for looser and tighter truck options. The new Ultra Low Inverted Hollow kingpin will also be available separately to upgrade other trucks brands that offer inverted kingpin options. Slappy Trucks the Gold Standard in grind clearance."



Hopfully it doesn't bind, the current ACER Ti pin doesn't work with slappys (it binds)

i saw that, looks pretty sick. not sure what you bean by it doesnt bind?
I saw comment from very knowledgeable skate nerd Chris Rice "Destroyedwood" on insta:

"Notice how the entire top of the kingpin covers the bushing and there is no need for a washer? That keeps them from backing out. Just like old grind kings."

"the rubber bushing doesn’t let it spin when tight."

a main reason i retire pretty mcuh all my trucks is cause i grind the kingpin down, and then it gets so worn you cant get it off (or rather get it back on again) to replace the beat bushings. i dont mind skating the axle that much. at least, i can have a use for it if its annoying (feels kinda shitty on rails but i could still use them elsewhere)

he mentioned in the post there will be replacement kingpins available for ALL brands of trucks too which sounds fucking rad cause I can get more life out of some of my other trucks that are just cruiser status now

[Xen]

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Taking a beat from acer.

"Skateboarding just got easier! Here is the first look at SLAPPY trucks new inverted hollow kingpin complete with a newly designed lower top bushing. The new inverted hollow kingpin removes all kingpin snags and hang ups traditional kingpins give you and its new design gives you the best grind clearance possible. The new Ultra Low Inverted Hollow Kingpin will be available this summer / July and will come standard on the Inverted Forged Hollow Lights. The new Ultra Low Kingpin is designed and heavily tested by skateboarders for skateboarders complete with longer threads for looser and tighter truck options. The new Ultra Low Inverted Hollow kingpin will also be available separately to upgrade other trucks brands that offer inverted kingpin options. Slappy Trucks the Gold Standard in grind clearance."



Hopfully it doesn't bind, the current ACER Ti pin doesn't work with slappys (it binds)

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i saw that, looks pretty sick. not sure what you bean by it doesnt bind?
I saw comment from very knowledgeable skate nerd Chris Rice "Destroyedwood" on insta:

"Notice how the entire top of the kingpin covers the bushing and there is no need for a washer? That keeps them from backing out. Just like old grind kings."

"the rubber bushing doesn’t let it spin when tight."

a main reason i retire pretty mcuh all my trucks is cause i grind the kingpin down, and then it gets so worn you cant get it off (or rather get it back on again) to replace the beat bushings. i dont mind skating the axle that much. at least, i can have a use for it if its annoying (feels kinda shitty on rails but i could still use them elsewhere)

he mentioned in the post there will be replacement kingpins available for ALL brands of trucks too which sounds fucking rad cause I can get more life out of some of my other trucks that are just cruiser status now

Like loose ventures the top washer can bind (against the hanger) when turning, limiting the turn. The ACER Ti pin in the slappys binds against the hanger because the circumference of the round part is too big, it does not, however, bind on Indys (current setup is indy ti forged with the acer TI pin).

[Sloppy Krooks]

So I few people asked about the IKP a few pages back and didn’t get an answer, and im curious too.

I got an AH horse pill, and decided to grab full 10-inch trucks. I’m a big ACE fan, but decided to try something different.

Just picked up the trucks from my local yesterday, and the shop owner threw in an extra pair of baseplates with the IKP.


So I’m wondering how well the inverted kingpin works. Anyone have any experience?

Also have some GK kingpins I could throw in as well, but I need to check the length.

[Xen]

So I few people asked about the IKP a few pages back and didn’t get an answer, and im curious too.

I got an AH horse pill, and decided to grab full 10-inch trucks. I’m a big ACE fan, but decided to try something different.

Just picked up the trucks from my local yesterday, and the shop owner threw in an extra pair of baseplates with the IKP.


So I’m wondering how well the inverted kingpin works. Anyone have any experience?

Also have some GK kingpins I could throw in as well, but I need to check the length.

I've had zero issues with the IKP plates regarding any 'common' other brand IKP issues. Their CS is top notch (just DM them on insta ) if you do end up with issues and you will get taken care of 100%.

The launch IKPs shipped with fewer threads on the pins (and soft bushings) and I would 'bottom out' tightening them (had to got to 100a bushings and even then it wasn't tight enough); they now come with more threads on the IKPs and it's not an issue.

Currently running slappy lows with an IKP and the 2mm slappy risers (without the risers even the shorter pin  will dig into the deck). Nets 52mm.

[Sloppy Krooks]

Thank you!

Turns out the other kingpins I have are Krux, and are a hair shorter in overall length, the head is a touch thicker, and the threads are a touch longer. Seems like they might also work, but I’ll run what I have and see how it goes

[Xen]

Thank you!

Turns out the other kingpins I have are Krux, and are a hair shorter in overall length, the head is a touch thicker, and the threads are a touch longer. Seems like they might also work, but I’ll run what I have and see how it goes

The new krux IKP? So far all the old krux and new indy IKP are swappable with  the slappy IKP plates; the only one that doesn;t play well with others that I've tried is the royal pin.

[moykky]

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Currently running slappy lows with an IKP and the 2mm slappy risers (without the risers even the shorter pin  will dig into the deck). Nets 52mm.

That 2mm slappy riser is something I need to try. 1/8 seems too much and 1/16 is not enough. Just got Slappy lows and so far I'm really happy with them (1/16 risers). Timing is a bit off, coming from Thunders...

[Blinded]

@alternativeretail Slappy trucks $10 sets

[nobodysname]

Yo, does anyone know if the hight of their new hollow lights is any different from ST1 hollows? Cant find it anywhere, but on CCS website 'normal' hollows are stated as 'high', while lights are marked as 'mid' but no exact specs which freaks me out

[Xen]

Yo, does anyone know if the hight of their new hollow lights is any different from ST1 hollows? Cant find it anywhere, but on CCS website 'normal' hollows are stated as 'high', while lights are marked as 'mid' but no exact specs which freaks me out

Same height 53.9

https://www.slappytrucks.com/pages/specs

[nobodysname]

So guess I'll continue bother y'all with odd Slappy questions.

CCS send me inverted hollow lights instead of normal kingpin ones by their mistake and I can't stand inverted kingpins and returning them will make me lose about $20 total on shipping at the end. Does anyone know if standard hollow kingpins will  fit and hold there if I buy some and hammer out an inverted one? Seems cheaper and way more time effective than all that returning and sending stuff back and forth bullshit but idk if truck construction allows it

[Curbfiend]

So guess I'll continue bother y'all with odd Slappy questions.

CCS send me inverted hollow lights instead of normal kingpin ones by their mistake and I can't stand inverted kingpins and returning them will make me lose about $20 total on shipping at the end. Does anyone know if standard hollow kingpins will  fit and hold there if I buy some and hammer out an inverted one? Seems cheaper and way more time effective than all that returning and sending stuff back and forth bullshit but idk if truck construction allows it

Yes it’s possible to take out the nut on inverted Slappy trucks and put a regular kingpin in. It might be a bit wiggly but it will work. If the wiggle bothers you you can always try to use some jb weld or something other metal epoxy to hold it in place.

Other inverted trucks with a shaftnut (ie: Indy mids)but wouldn’t work though. 

[Crabby_Bastard]

So guess I'll continue bother y'all with odd Slappy questions.

CCS send me inverted hollow lights instead of normal kingpin ones by their mistake and I can't stand inverted kingpins and returning them will make me lose about $20 total on shipping at the end. Does anyone know if standard hollow kingpins will  fit and hold there if I buy some and hammer out an inverted one? Seems cheaper and way more time effective than all that returning and sending stuff back and forth bullshit but idk if truck construction allows it

If they sent you the wrong trucks by mistake, why would it cost you anything to return them and get a full refund? They will take care of it if you contact them.

[TwisT]

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So guess I'll continue bother y'all with odd Slappy questions.

CCS send me inverted hollow lights instead of normal kingpin ones by their mistake and I can't stand inverted kingpins and returning them will make me lose about $20 total on shipping at the end. Does anyone know if standard hollow kingpins will  fit and hold there if I buy some and hammer out an inverted one? Seems cheaper and way more time effective than all that returning and sending stuff back and forth bullshit but idk if truck construction allows it

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If they sent you the wrong trucks by mistake, why would it cost you anything to return them and get a full refund? They will take care of it if you contact them.

I had CCS send me the wrong shoes twice. Both times they replaced them at no cost. The last time the shoe I bought was a clearance shoe and was out of stock and they offered to send me any colorway of the same shoe.

Maybe you just got a new guy.

[Osage]

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So guess I'll continue bother y'all with odd Slappy questions.

CCS send me inverted hollow lights instead of normal kingpin ones by their mistake and I can't stand inverted kingpins and returning them will make me lose about $20 total on shipping at the end. Does anyone know if standard hollow kingpins will  fit and hold there if I buy some and hammer out an inverted one? Seems cheaper and way more time effective than all that returning and sending stuff back and forth bullshit but idk if truck construction allows it

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If they sent you the wrong trucks by mistake, why would it cost you anything to return them and get a full refund? They will take care of it if you contact them.

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I had CCS send me the wrong shoes twice. Both times they replaced them at no cost. The last time the shoe I bought was a clearance shoe and was out of stock and they offered to send me any colorway of the same shoe.

Maybe you just got a new guy.

     I ordered a couple decks from CCS maybe 6-8 months ago. They sent one that was wrong. They just told me to keep it and sent the correct one out. I'd definitely get in touch with them.

[nobodysname]

Yes it’s possible to take out the nut on inverted Slappy trucks and put a regular kingpin in. It might be a bit wiggly but it will work. If the wiggle bothers you you can always try to use some jb weld or something other metal epoxy to hold it in place.

Thanks for advice, will keep it in mind! Definitely not what I'd like to do after spending smth around $70 on trucks though.

Btw, I've got in touch with CCS immediately and yeah they reply fast but communication doesn't go that smooth for now, so was just looking forward for back-up options just in case. Hope we'll figure it out without the need to do all these DIY manipulations tho.

[TwisT]

I’ve been skating slappy trucks about once a week for a month and I feel like they don’t grind as well as Thunder. Am I crazy?

[Xen]

I’ve been skating slappy trucks about once a week for a month and I feel like they don’t grind as well as Thunder. Am I crazy?

I find the opposite true. It's the thunder pinch and 'nimbleness' that can't be replicated (my fear for the T2s..."just another Indy" without the thunder pinch or the quick twitch).

[nobodysname]

Thanks for advice, will keep it in mind! Definitely not what I'd like to do after spending smth around $70 on trucks though.

Btw, I've got in touch with CCS immediately and yeah they reply fast but communication doesn't go that smooth for now, so was just looking forward for back-up options just in case. Hope we'll figure it out without the need to do all these DIY manipulations tho.

Update on this whole deal to make everyone involved justice: we figured it out with CCS and they agreed to return it w/o any shipping expenses from my side needed, but while it was still uncertain I messaged Slappy account on IG asking if I can just simply replace inverted kingpins for regular ones explaining whole situation (before I posted same question here) and in response Sinclair just sent me whole regular hollow baseplates without being involved or having to do nothing with this conflict caused by mistake on CCS website at all.

Just got them from my mailbox and haven't grinded yet 'cause I live way too far from US and it took forever to get 'em here, but guess I won't wanna go back to Indy after this level of loyalty to their supporters/buyers from Slappy haha. Huge shout out to Sinclair and the other guy Daniel from Slappy office who made it possible, these guys are the best!!!

Will post an update on how they feel after 15yrs mostly on Indys later

[Xen]

I've had a few back and and forths with those dudes and they are super responsive and backup their product (as good as NHS/DLX so far).

[pops]

Got the replacement bushings in 90a. Big fan of them. My trucks are very responsive and stable.

[Sloppy Krooks]

Good god. Between this and the new Aces, kingpins are set to disappear completely by 2027

[Osage]

   I'm currently riding Indy 159 hollows on my main setup but and am looking to downsize the trucks to 8.5". I've ridden most trucks and the stability along with the turn of Indy's is where I've ended up. Actually I've ended up on Indys a few times after riding various other trucks. I'm thinking of switching it up and trying Slappy 8.5" hollows. For people who have ridden both, are the Slappys really as stable on center an an Indy?

[MetalAnkleMan]

   I'm currently riding Indy 159 hollows on my main setup but and am looking to downsize the trucks to 8.5". I've ridden most trucks and the stability along with the turn of Indy's is where I've ended up. Actually I've ended up on Indys a few times after riding various other trucks. I'm thinking of switching it up and trying Slappy 8.5" hollows. For people who have ridden both, are the Slappys really as stable on center an an Indy?

i just went through the same experience. i had a main set up with 159 indy hollows and a curb set up with the slappy 8.75 hollows. same 54mm wheels. same deck. my curb set up always felt taller even though slappys are 1mm lower than indy hollows. i also felt more center and stable on my indys. is it because iv clocked in more hours on my indys as it was the main setup i skate the most? maybe... but ultimately i decided to go to 149 indy hollow on my main set up instead of Slappys. I like Slappys for the turn and lower chance of wheelbite but I feel like for me slappys are better on my curb set up and are better suited for that type of skating 

[Xen]

Slappy lows with GK IKP, fits perfectly on low plates (I ended up with a loose KP so knocked them out).

[Rick Trapasso]

Can anyone that has ridden the standard slappys and Indy forged comment on how the wheelbase and pinch compares between the two?

Slappy's are the only new truck I would consider trying these days, but if the wheelbase is shorter and the pinch is worse I would probably just stick to my Indys.

The "less wheel bite" marketing on Slappy's make me inclined to think they might not pinch as well, but then I've heard others say they enjoy the pinch on them.

It's all subject to personal preference I know, but I'm curious to know what people who have ridden both think.

Thanks in advance !

[Crabby_Bastard]

Slappy lows with GK IKP, fits perfectly on low plates (I ended up with a loose KP so knocked them out).

Looks good!

[Mbrimson88]

Can anyone that has ridden the standard slappys and Indy forged comment on how the wheelbase and pinch compares between the two?

Slappy's are the only new truck I would consider trying these days, but if the wheelbase is shorter and the pinch is worse I would probably just stick to my Indys.

The "less wheel bite" marketing on Slappy's make me inclined to think they might not pinch as well, but then I've heard others say they enjoy the pinch on them.

It's all subject to personal preference I know, but I'm curious to know what people who have ridden both think.

Thanks in advance !

I have both, usually the 149s / 8.5 options and I found the Slappy to be way more prone to wheelbite from new than Indy, so they did seem to turn a whole lot more, or at least the wheel touched the deck a whole lot more, but after the bushings firmed up a bit, they were fairly normal, so quite comparable and everything works on them well enough.  If that equates to more pinch, then go with it.  I usually run my trucks medium on the back / loose on the front, so others have said.

Wheelbase felt comfortable, so going by the usual chart, as well as the marketing blurb shortest to longest wheelbase, I would put them right in the middle of Ace, Indy, Slappy, Thunder, Venture, even if one of their things / someone said otherwise.

Kingpin clearance was better on the Slappy - truck height comparable to Indy forged, but the Indy kingpin is 35 mm tall, same as Thunder and Venture, but the Slappy kingpin is only 33 mm tall, so two extra mm of clearance right there, even on the standard / regular kingpin truck.  I did notice it.

Others have mentioned the top washer cuts into the top bushing fairly significantly at first, which did happen a bit, but I sanded the top bushing a little on the grip tape and both still work fine, maybe more so now they have firmed up and broken in nicely, but I was considering swapping out the top washer, which I know others have done in the past.

I think that is about it.

[Rick Trapasso]

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Can anyone that has ridden the standard slappys and Indy forged comment on how the wheelbase and pinch compares between the two?

Slappy's are the only new truck I would consider trying these days, but if the wheelbase is shorter and the pinch is worse I would probably just stick to my Indys.

The "less wheel bite" marketing on Slappy's make me inclined to think they might not pinch as well, but then I've heard others say they enjoy the pinch on them.

It's all subject to personal preference I know, but I'm curious to know what people who have ridden both think.

Thanks in advance !

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I have both, usually the 149s / 8.5 options and I found the Slappy to be way more prone to wheelbite from new than Indy, so they did seem to turn a whole lot more, or at least the wheel touched the deck a whole lot more, but after the bushings firmed up a bit, they were fairly normal, so quite comparable and everything works on them well enough.  If that equates to more pinch, then go with it.  I usually run my trucks medium on the back / loose on the front, so others have said.

Wheelbase felt comfortable, so going by the usual chart, as well as the marketing blurb shortest to longest wheelbase, I would put them right in the middle of Ace, Indy, Slappy, Thunder, Venture, even if one of their things / someone said otherwise.

Kingpin clearance was better on the Slappy - truck height comparable to Indy forged, but the Indy kingpin is 35 mm tall, same as Thunder and Venture, but the Slappy kingpin is only 33 mm tall, so two extra mm of clearance right there, even on the standard / regular kingpin truck.  I did notice it.

Others have mentioned the top washer cuts into the top bushing fairly significantly at first, which did happen a bit, but I sanded the top bushing a little on the grip tape and both still work fine, maybe more so now they have firmed up and broken in nicely, but I was considering swapping out the top washer, which I know others have done in the past.

I think that is about it.

Thanks man!

Ive seen their wheelbase chart, but I think they're referencing cast Indys. The wb on forged Indys seems to be debatable. I know we had talked about this in the truck wheelbase thread.

I'll likely try Slappy's at some point though Im sure

[Spacecase]

Ordered a set in 9.5” with a set of 95a bushings. I Really liked my Ace 77s size just not the twitchyness, hope these are more stable.

Usually ride Indy 169s but like the added width of a 9.5”