Tik Tok Ban

[newguy]

Anyone else find the hearings hilarious? Looks like a bunch of old senile people failing to understand how technology works 

[newguy]

https://mobile.twitter.com/catcontentonly/status/1639021937144766465

Feel like this is a neat summary of the hearings

[ok boomer]

i don't use social media (just Slap?) so I find all of this funny.
My wife is a tik tok addict and she gets real sensitive about this

[GrayCellGreen]

I watched a few highlights of the hearing and it was mostly filled with culture war bullshit from the R's on the committee, which I find ironic considering TikTok is notorious for amplifying red pill / anti-woke content that ultimately serves the interests of the right.

[SneakySecrets]

I hope they ban it.  All that shit is a blight on society.

[TheLurper]

I'd prefer strong regulation for all social media. They shouldn't be allowed to vacuum up our data and their algorithms should be open for review. From Twitter to TikTok to Facebook all these stupid ass things influence people and can have impacts on the real world.

I'm just waiting for Musk to start tweeting about people's DMs in order to silence their criticism of his stupid ass tunnel under Las Vegas.

Finally, the idea of US government workers even having any apps on their work phones is super dumb. If gov employees want to have Snap or TikTok on their personal phone fine, but not on a work phone. They should be limited to work only applications that have been reviewed by security.


Edit: I am second guessing my comment. How do algorithm settings differ from deciding the programs at a TV channel? I wouldn't advocate for telling NBC what shows they show or don't show, why advocate for telling a social media that prioritizing puppies or Teslas or the glory of the People's Republic of China is bad?

[GrayCellGreen]

I'd prefer strong regulation for all social media. They shouldn't be allowed to vacuum up our data and their algorithms should be open for review. From Twitter to TikTok to Facebook all these stupid ass things influence people and can have impacts on the real world.

I'm just waiting for Musk to start tweeting about people's DMs in order to silence their criticism of his stupid ass tunnel under Las Vegas.

Finally, the idea of US government workers even having any apps on their work phones is super dumb. If gov employees want to have Snap or TikTok on their personal phone fine, but not on a work phone. They should be limited to work only applications that have been reviewed by security.


Edit: I am second guessing my comment. How do algorithm settings differ from deciding the programs at a TV channel? I wouldn't advocate for telling NBC what shows they show or don't show, why advocate for telling a social media that prioritizing puppies or Teslas or the glory of the People's Republic of China is bad?

Large companies who have even modicum of a security posture are restricting social media and other personal use apps from company devices. I work for a water district, which is considered local government agency, and we use a MDM (mobile device management) that automatically provisions all the apps that someone would need to perform their jobs and restricts them from downloading anything outside of that. I sure hope that employees of the federal government would have their mobile devices managed by an MDM considering they are extremely susceptible to attacks. 

[Abyss1]

Anyone else find the hearings hilarious? Looks like a bunch of old senile people failing to understand how technology works 

Tik Tok CEO owned when he said "oh yeah, Like USA companies have good track records...Facebook and Cambridge analytica for example"...the smirk he had like yea your companies are even more scandalous

[Atiba Applebum]

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Anyone else find the hearings hilarious? Looks like a bunch of old senile people failing to understand how technology works 

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Tik Tok CEO owned when he said "oh yeah, Like USA companies have good track records...Facebook and Cambridge analytica for example"...the smirk he had like yea your companies are even more scandalous

that is such a Chinese government response hah.

[newguy]

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Anyone else find the hearings hilarious? Looks like a bunch of old senile people failing to understand how technology works 

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Tik Tok CEO owned when he said "oh yeah, Like USA companies have good track records...Facebook and Cambridge analytica for example"...the smirk he had like yea your companies are even more scandalous

Facebook literally ran experiments on you guys and boosted a genocide in myanmar.

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Anyone else find the hearings hilarious? Looks like a bunch of old senile people failing to understand how technology works 

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Tik Tok CEO owned when he said "oh yeah, Like USA companies have good track records...Facebook and Cambridge analytica for example"...the smirk he had like yea your companies are even more scandalous

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that is such a Chinese government response hah.

Pretty much

[TastyBurrito]

I work in advertising and deal with a lot of social media and social media influencers. So naturally, I hate TikTok. I hate Facebook. I liked Twitter pre-Musk. And I’m okay with IG.

That said, old folk trying to regulate this shit as if they’re protecting America and free-speech is stupid and a waste of government money when other things could and should take precedence.

The most I support any of this, is the banning of TikTok (and social media in general) on Government phones and devices.

If people want to sign up and have their data be collected by a privately owned company, why not? We do it when we accept terms and conditions with everything we use.

[newguy]

“We examine user profiles to verify age sir”

"Well that's creepy!"

my god 

[newguy]

I work in advertising and deal with a lot of social media and social media influencers. So naturally, I hate TikTok. I hate Facebook. I liked Twitter pre-Musk. And I’m okay with IG.

That said, old folk trying to regulate this shit as if they’re protecting America and free-speech is stupid and a waste of government money when other things could and should take precedence.

The most I support any of this, is the banning of TikTok (and social media in general) on Government phones and devices.

If people want to sign up and have their data be collected by a privately owned company, why not? We do it when we accept terms and conditions with everything we use.

My take is this is just more Red Scare 2 consent manufacturing following the very dangerous and mischevious chinese spy balloon to distract from other pressing issues.

It's also very entertaining haha.

[fineslime]

https://mobile.twitter.com/catcontentonly/status/1639021937144766465

Feel like this is a neat summary of the hearings

That was a bullshit answer, but because whomever was asking that question (probably) doesn't understand the technology fully, he doesn't know the correct way to phrase the question. I believe he was trying to ask if TikTok can access other devices that are connected to your network, even if TikTok is not installed on those devices.

The answer is yes, yes they can. TikTok is a foreign data mining piece of spyware with almost endless permissions.

"It's technical let me get back to you," and the congressman just letting him skirt by the question is laughable....

[fineslime]

I work in advertising and deal with a lot of social media and social media influencers. So naturally, I hate TikTok. I hate Facebook. I liked Twitter pre-Musk. And I’m okay with IG.

That said, old folk trying to regulate this shit as if they’re protecting America and free-speech is stupid and a waste of government money when other things could and should take precedence.

The most I support any of this, is the banning of TikTok (and social media in general) on Government phones and devices.

If people want to sign up and have their data be collected by a privately owned company, why not? We do it when we accept terms and conditions with everything we use.

There's no such thing as a privately owned company in China, especially one as big as TikTok. TikTok is 100% run by the CCP, and I firmly believe they are using TikTok to sew confusion and infighting amongst the American public with an emphasis on children and teenagers (just like every other social media platform with government influence.)

[Sativa Lung]

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I work in advertising and deal with a lot of social media and social media influencers. So naturally, I hate TikTok. I hate Facebook. I liked Twitter pre-Musk. And I’m okay with IG.

That said, old folk trying to regulate this shit as if they’re protecting America and free-speech is stupid and a waste of government money when other things could and should take precedence.

The most I support any of this, is the banning of TikTok (and social media in general) on Government phones and devices.

If people want to sign up and have their data be collected by a privately owned company, why not? We do it when we accept terms and conditions with everything we use.

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There's no such thing as a privately owned company in China, especially one as big as TikTok. TikTok is 100% run by the CCP, and I firmly believe they are using TikTok to sew confusion and infighting amongst the American public with an emphasis on children and teenagers (just like every other social media platform with government influence.)

It should also be noted that tiktok does not operate in China. It's a thinly veiled mass surveillance tool that logs your keystrokes and location and the CCCP calls the shots. All social media is evil, but I'm a lot more OK with companies that want my money doing it than the govt of our biggest global rival.

So, it definitely needs to go but just banning tiktok is a bandaid. What we need is actual privacy protection and data collection legislation with teeth. Europe is about 5 years ahead of us (as usual) with regards to this kind of stuff.

[companguero]

Ban the tok? And miss out on some good natured rubber-necking?

[DirtyBurger]

I watch the guy who rolls for sandwiches and that's really all I care about but I did see a video where they referred to the CEO as Chinese and he corrected them because he's from Singapore, so I'm on TikTok's side I guess. Also I'm sorry that the man lost his eye, but what is going on with the god damn eye patch

[fineslime]

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I work in advertising and deal with a lot of social media and social media influencers. So naturally, I hate TikTok. I hate Facebook. I liked Twitter pre-Musk. And I’m okay with IG.

That said, old folk trying to regulate this shit as if they’re protecting America and free-speech is stupid and a waste of government money when other things could and should take precedence.

The most I support any of this, is the banning of TikTok (and social media in general) on Government phones and devices.

If people want to sign up and have their data be collected by a privately owned company, why not? We do it when we accept terms and conditions with everything we use.

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There's no such thing as a privately owned company in China, especially one as big as TikTok. TikTok is 100% run by the CCP, and I firmly believe they are using TikTok to sew confusion and infighting amongst the American public with an emphasis on children and teenagers (just like every other social media platform with government influence.)

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It should also be noted that tiktok does not operate in China. It's a thinly veiled mass surveillance tool that logs your keystrokes and location and the CCCP calls the shots. All social media is evil, but I'm a lot more OK with companies that want my money doing it than the govt of our biggest global rival.

So, it definitely needs to go but just banning tiktok is a bandaid. What we need is actual privacy protection and data collection legislation with teeth. Europe is about 5 years ahead of us (as usual) with regards to this kind of stuff.

Finally, someone gets it. A close friend of mine lives her life on TikTok despite her being someone who would describe themselves as someone who can see through the bullshit and is, "free thinking." I've had several conversations about how TikTok truly operates and she gets offended. She also says things like, "so what? Who cares if they have my data, other companies do it too..." "Oh wow a social media company is tracking us big deal."

People get so hopelessly addicted to that app they rationalize everything about using it. I've never seen anything quite like it.

[ChuckRamone]

This is all because TikTok is outcompeting American SM companies. The "surveillance" and "propaganda" stuff are just pretexts for trying to get rid of a rival or making it sell itself to an American buyer. As if everything you do online isn't monitored by the US government, which I don't trust any more than the "CCP."

[yourbreakfsat]

I watch the guy who rolls for sandwiches and that's really all I care about but I did see a video where they referred to the CEO as Chinese and he corrected them because he's from Singapore, so I'm on TikTok's side I guess. Also I'm sorry that the man lost his eye, but what is going on with the god damn eye patch

Dan Crenshaw? He lost his eye to an IED in 2012 and still has problems with his left eye.

[Ex Lion Tamer]

This is all because TikTok is outcompeting American SM companies. The "surveillance" and "propaganda" stuff are just pretexts for trying to get rid of a rival or making it sell itself to an American buyer. As if everything you do online isn't monitored by the US government, which I don't trust any more than the "CCP."

this is it

[modern life is war]

i think it should be banned. we need to save the kids from turning their brains into lifeless lumps from dopamine addiction. also ban porn

[fakie nollie]

Almost worked there and got weirded out by the ban potential. They’re laying off a bunch of people. Shit is gonna crash and burn

[Atiba Applebum]

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This is all because TikTok is outcompeting American SM companies. The "surveillance" and "propaganda" stuff are just pretexts for trying to get rid of a rival or making it sell itself to an American buyer. As if everything you do online isn't monitored by the US government, which I don't trust any more than the "CCP."

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I dunno, there’s a both sides thing going on that I think is a little harsh on the US (which is wild as fuck to think about).   The US can survey me, but I’m not gonna get fucked up if I make a meme about the President looking like a pantsless Disney bear or worry about my relatives in the states if I go abroad and start talking shit on the government (or worry about secret US police stations like the Chinese have set up in US, Canada, and in Europe).

[Sativa Lung]

Finally, someone gets it. A close friend of mine lives her life on TikTok despite her being someone who would describe themselves as someone who can see through the bullshit and is, "free thinking." I've had several conversations about how TikTok truly operates and she gets offended. She also says things like, "so what? Who cares if they have my data, other companies do it too..." "Oh wow a social media company is tracking us big deal."

People get so hopelessly addicted to that app they rationalize everything about using it. I've never seen anything quite like it.

Well to be fair if it was Twitter or Facebook there would be way more people trying even harder to justify it. Americans have a really hard time accepting that they've made a mistake even when there's mountains of evidence staring them in the face. Nerds (or really just people who fundamentally understand how the internet works) have been LOUDLY denouncing our apathy regarding data collection for well over a decade at this but it's taken an adversarial state basically openly exploiting it for the majority of people to even begin to admit this might be an issue.

You don't need to know where exactly where I am and what I'm saying to whom to sell me shit, the ad industry worked just fine for 150 years before mass data collection started.

[Atiba Applebum]

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Finally, someone gets it. A close friend of mine lives her life on TikTok despite her being someone who would describe themselves as someone who can see through the bullshit and is, "free thinking." I've had several conversations about how TikTok truly operates and she gets offended. She also says things like, "so what? Who cares if they have my data, other companies do it too..." "Oh wow a social media company is tracking us big deal."

People get so hopelessly addicted to that app they rationalize everything about using it. I've never seen anything quite like it.

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Well to be fair if it was Twitter or Facebook there would be way more people trying even harder to justify it. Americans have a really hard time accepting that they've made a mistake even when there's mountains of evidence staring them in the face. Nerds (or really just people who fundamentally understand how the internet works) have been LOUDLY denouncing our apathy regarding data collection for well over a decade at this but it's taken an adversarial state basically openly exploiting it for the majority of people to even begin to admit this might be an issue.

You don't need to know where exactly where I am and what I'm saying to whom to sell me shit, the ad industry worked just fine for 150 years before mass data collection started.

Every free product just means you’re the actual product the company is selling to someone else

[Tireeedd]

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I watch the guy who rolls for sandwiches and that's really all I care about but I did see a video where they referred to the CEO as Chinese and he corrected them because he's from Singapore, so I'm on TikTok's side I guess. Also I'm sorry that the man lost his eye, but what is going on with the god damn eye patch

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Dan Crenshaw? He lost his eye to an IED in 2012 and still has problems with his left eye.

He's still a pussy

[Perforated Opinions]

I hope they ban it.  All that shit is a blight on society.