Tik Tok Ban

[Perforated Opinions]

Blight: definition.
Any of numerous plant diseases resulting in sudden conspicuous wilting and dying of affected parts, especially young, growing tissues

[Sila]

My ex partner was fully addicted to it, probably still is. I swear half their personality disappeared and it probably contributed to me losing interest very suddenly.

[Ex Lion Tamer]

[SneakySecrets]

[newguy]

 

[Ex Lion Tamer]

 the headline just illustrates the obvious, doesnt matter if forbes is garbage

[ChuckRamone]

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This is all because TikTok is outcompeting American SM companies. The "surveillance" and "propaganda" stuff are just pretexts for trying to get rid of a rival or making it sell itself to an American buyer. As if everything you do online isn't monitored by the US government, which I don't trust any more than the "CCP."

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I dunno, there’s a both sides thing going on that I think is a little harsh on the US (which is wild as fuck to think about).   The US can survey me, but I’m not gonna get fucked up if I make a meme about the President looking like a pantsless Disney bear or worry about my relatives in the states if I go abroad and start talking shit on the government (or worry about secret US police stations like the Chinese have set up in US, Canada, and in Europe).

There really isn't a both sides. The US is by far the worse country to people who aren't its own people and even then America is worse with its fucked up healthcare system and economic inequality.

[newguy]

Was expecting a nice little rebuke from you, not disappointed. Not immediately related but I stumbled upon a falun gong stand today while going back home which was weird as hell, what these idiots want with my city i can only guess, probably spreading their wild views on china to clueless westerners 

[Atiba Applebum]

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This is all because TikTok is outcompeting American SM companies. The "surveillance" and "propaganda" stuff are just pretexts for trying to get rid of a rival or making it sell itself to an American buyer. As if everything you do online isn't monitored by the US government, which I don't trust any more than the "CCP."

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I dunno, there’s a both sides thing going on that I think is a little harsh on the US (which is wild as fuck to think about).   The US can survey me, but I’m not gonna get fucked up if I make a meme about the President looking like a pantsless Disney bear or worry about my relatives in the states if I go abroad and start talking shit on the government (or worry about secret US police stations like the Chinese have set up in US, Canada, and in Europe).

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There really isn't a both sides. The US is by far the worse country to people who aren't its own people and even then America is worse with its fucked up healthcare system and economic inequality.

Ah we were talking about different things - I was referring to treatment of its own citizens which I realize is a bit apples and oranges anyways.

[Sativa Lung]

Was expecting a nice little rebuke from you, not disappointed. Not immediately related but I stumbled upon a falun gong stand today while going back home which was weird as hell, what these idiots want with my city i can only guess, probably spreading their wild views on china to clueless westerners 

FG are kooks but an entirely different kind. They're more of your classic religious cult and blast a lot of right wing propaganda but on the whole it's less directly anti-American than CCP media rhetoric. In fact I'm pretty sure China mass arrested and tortured thousands of them to death when I was in high school, I remember drawing some parallels when the uyghur stuff started to break.

Also that chart is laughable... yeah the US totally attacked Brazil in 2016 and Haiti in 2004. I wont go into the nuance of every conflict but suffice to say if this had been updated recently I'm sure they'd add Ukraine there. The US is in an unfortunate position as the most powerful country in the world.. When anything goes wrong people loudly beg for help and then when we give it we're criticized for doing so and accused of imposing our might. Its a can't win situation.

[cky enthusiast]

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Was expecting a nice little rebuke from you, not disappointed. Not immediately related but I stumbled upon a falun gong stand today while going back home which was weird as hell, what these idiots want with my city i can only guess, probably spreading their wild views on china to clueless westerners 

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FG are kooks but an entirely different kind. They're more of your classic religious cult and blast a lot of right wing propaganda but on the whole it's less directly anti-American than CCP media rhetoric. In fact I'm pretty sure China mass arrested and tortured thousands of them to death when I was in high school, I remember drawing some parallels when the uyghur stuff started to break.

Also that chart is laughable... yeah the US totally attacked Brazil in 2016 and Haiti in 2004. I wont go into the nuance of every conflict but suffice to say if this had been updated recently I'm sure they'd add Ukraine there. The US is in an unfortunate position as the most powerful country in the world.. When anything goes wrong people loudly beg for help and then when we give it we're criticized for doing so and accused of imposing our might. Its a can't win situation.

do u know what a coup d'etat is or did they not teach you that at jarhead school

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Coup de tat

a sudden decisive exercise of force in politics
especially : the violent overthrow or alteration of an existing government by a small group

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Was expecting a nice little rebuke from you, not disappointed. Not immediately related but I stumbled upon a falun gong stand today while going back home which was weird as hell, what these idiots want with my city i can only guess, probably spreading their wild views on china to clueless westerners 

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FG are kooks but an entirely different kind. They're more of your classic religious cult and blast a lot of right wing propaganda but on the whole it's less directly anti-American than CCP media rhetoric. In fact I'm pretty sure China mass arrested and tortured thousands of them to death when I was in high school, I remember drawing some parallels when the uyghur stuff started to break.

Also that chart is laughable... yeah the US totally attacked Brazil in 2016 and Haiti in 2004. I wont go into the nuance of every conflict but suffice to say if this had been updated recently I'm sure they'd add Ukraine there. The US is in an unfortunate position as the most powerful country in the world.. When anything goes wrong people loudly beg for help and then when we give it we're criticized for doing so and accused of imposing our might. Its a can't win situation.

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do u know what a coup d'etat is or did they not teach you that at jarhead school

Yes, and the extent of the US' involvement in that coup was 1000 marines to secure the airport and a plane to exile, both of which were requested. Aristide shit his pants because of the literal cannibal army taking over his city and then tried to save face afterwards.

I actually went to art school for the military (not a jar head, I got a 98 gq on my ASVAB and got to pick my job in the air force) and graduated at the top of my class. The business/macro degree with a minor in sociology that I got 3 years into before deciding I hated it and shooting a bunch of dope was actually funded by the GI bill. So save for half a year of computer science at a public university when I was 18, your tax dollars have actually directly funded my entire education. Have a good day bud.

[Billy Bitchcakes]

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Was expecting a nice little rebuke from you, not disappointed. Not immediately related but I stumbled upon a falun gong stand today while going back home which was weird as hell, what these idiots want with my city i can only guess, probably spreading their wild views on china to clueless westerners 

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FG are kooks but an entirely different kind. They're more of your classic religious cult and blast a lot of right wing propaganda but on the whole it's less directly anti-American than CCP media rhetoric. In fact I'm pretty sure China mass arrested and tortured thousands of them to death when I was in high school, I remember drawing some parallels when the uyghur stuff started to break.

Also that chart is laughable... yeah the US totally attacked Brazil in 2016 and Haiti in 2004. I wont go into the nuance of every conflict but suffice to say if this had been updated recently I'm sure they'd add Ukraine there. The US is in an unfortunate position as the most powerful country in the world.. When anything goes wrong people loudly beg for help and then when we give it we're criticized for doing so and accused of imposing our might. Its a can't win situation.

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do u know what a coup d'etat is or did they not teach you that at jarhead school

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Yes, and the extent of the US' involvement in that coup was 1000 marines to secure the airport and a plane to exile, both of which were requested. Aristide shit his pants because of the literal cannibal army taking over his city and then tried to save face afterwards.

I actually went to art school for the military (not a jar head, I got a 98 gq on my ASVAB and got to pick my job in the air force) and graduated at the top of my class. The business/macro degree with a minor in sociology that I got 3 years into before deciding I hated it and shooting a bunch of dope was actually funded by the GI bill. So save for half a year of computer science at a public university when I was 18, your tax dollars have actually directly funded my entire education. Have a good day bud.

right, this just happened to be the one coup in Haiti that wasn't directly engineered by the US since their outright occupation of the island. if you buy that you'll buy anything (and it appears you already have). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change. hopefully this will help you with your confusion about the graphic

my tax dollars already are wasted on the cops that beat my neighbors up and drone striking weddings so its water off my back- the truly insulting thing is that the military telling you you've got a big strong brain and get to draw the tanks on the brochures turned you into someone who is wrong about basically everything, cleans poop for a living and skates alone in his basement, yet carries himself as if he's never been wrong about anything in his life

[.Blackshoes.]

My niece looks like a zombie while using that tictac thing. It's super scary how much of a hold some of those services have on young minds.

[Atiba Applebum]

My niece looks like a zombie while using that tictac thing. It's super scary how much of a hold some of those services have on young minds.

By design they’re addictive.   It’s why it’s always interesting see that parents who run these companies rarely let their kids use them

[swellbowed]

Thought that was Sluggo for a second

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The ironing of the US trying to ban a Chinese app is just too delicious

[newguy]

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Was expecting a nice little rebuke from you, not disappointed. Not immediately related but I stumbled upon a falun gong stand today while going back home which was weird as hell, what these idiots want with my city i can only guess, probably spreading their wild views on china to clueless westerners 

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FG are kooks but an entirely different kind. They're more of your classic religious cult and blast a lot of right wing propaganda but on the whole it's less directly anti-American than CCP media rhetoric. In fact I'm pretty sure China mass arrested and tortured thousands of them to death when I was in high school, I remember drawing some parallels when the uyghur stuff started to break.

Also that chart is laughable... yeah the US totally attacked Brazil in 2016 and Haiti in 2004. I wont go into the nuance of every conflict but suffice to say if this had been updated recently I'm sure they'd add Ukraine there. The US is in an unfortunate position as the most powerful country in the world.. When anything goes wrong people loudly beg for help and then when we give it we're criticized for doing so and accused of imposing our might. Its a can't win situation.

No one wants your "help" lmao

[Atiba Applebum]

The ironing of the US trying to ban a Chinese app is just too delicious

Why?   Isn’t the deal with the Chinese that they allow US apps for as long as it takes them to make counterfeit versions and then ban the US ones?

[newguy]

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The ironing of the US trying to ban a Chinese app is just too delicious

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Why?   Isn’t the deal with the Chinese that they allow US apps for as long as it takes them to make counterfeit versions and then ban the US ones?

I don’t think there’s anything of worth to copy from US applications unless you’re a shitty Silicon Valley venture capitalist

[Sizzle]

Coup de tat

a sudden decisive exercise of force in politics
especially : the violent overthrow or alteration of an existing government by a small group

Literally spelled it wrong

[Atiba Applebum]

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The ironing of the US trying to ban a Chinese app is just too delicious

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Why?   Isn’t the deal with the Chinese that they allow US apps for as long as it takes them to make counterfeit versions and then ban the US ones?

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I don’t think there’s anything of worth to copy from US applications unless you’re a shitty Silicon Valley venture capitalist

Mm I remember it being a plot point in the show Silicon Valley which was based on actual events that are currently a minor sticking point in sino/American relations.   Uber I remember being one app specifically that was worried about China stealing their shit while deadlocking them from opening up in their country. 

Apparently it’s not apps, but straight up stealing American patents to create the same product with slightly altered logos to create market confusion.

[livin on a speyer]

Internet was a mistake.

[Andmoreagain]

Internet was a mistake.

Ya can't wait til it's 99% ai. They can have it.

[skate_or_dingus]

I hope they ban it.  All that shit is a blight on society.

[newguy]

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Internet was a mistake.

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Ya can't wait til it's 99% ai. They can have it.

reminds me of this: https://forum.agoraroad.com/index.php?threads/dead-internet-theory-most-of-the-internet-is-fake.3011/

now I dont necessarily subscribe to the views in that post but its a fun thing to think about

[SneakySecrets]

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Internet was a mistake.

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Ya can't wait til it's 99% ai. They can have it.

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reminds me of this: https://forum.agoraroad.com/index.php?threads/dead-internet-theory-most-of-the-internet-is-fake.3011/

now I dont necessarily subscribe to the views in that post but its a fun thing to think about

I didn’t read the whole thing, but I can totally understand what they’re saying.  When I started using the internet, I remember it being like the old west.  You could lose yourself in anglefire and geocities websites, each one unique and made by an actual person. Thems were the days.

[Abyss1]

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The ironing of the US trying to ban a Chinese app is just too delicious

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Why?   Isn’t the deal with the Chinese that they allow US apps for as long as it takes them to make counterfeit versions and then ban the US ones?

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I don’t think there’s anything of worth to copy from US applications unless you’re a shitty Silicon Valley venture capitalist

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Mm I remember it being a plot point in the show Silicon Valley which was based on actual events that are currently a minor sticking point in sino/American relations.   Uber I remember being one app specifically that was worried about China stealing their shit while deadlocking them from opening up in their country. 

Apparently it’s not apps, but straight up stealing American patents to create the same product with slightly altered logos to create market confusion.

Uber's CTO used to work for google and took a some IP on self driving cars...Google sued and won.  Tech companies all steal, i think its rumored the Apple 2 design was stolen from Xerox and IBM concepts too