What's up with Flip?

[Wienerboy]

Like any millennial that was of age when Sorry came out, Flip used to be one of my favorite teams in all of skateboarding. After the Boulala situation, then Extremely Sorry, then most of the heavy hitters leaving, I stopped caring about Flip as much, as they just kind of fell by the wayside.

I was just feeling curious today and looked at their website and saw that they're selling old designs and logos... Sorry shirts, Tom Penny Cheech n Chong boards, and they even have old pro models from Boulala, Saari, Appleyard, Bastien, Rune and Penny. Got me to thinking about the legality of it all.

Do you imagine that these old riders are getting money from Flip for them still using their names? Obviously most of these dudes aren't on Flip anymore, right? ... Or are they?

What's goin on here? Anyone know?

[doublesteveburger]

think it's telling how rowley isn't in that line-up of reissues when he's the most obvious selling point

[somedudefromnj]

zi still wonder what was in Rowley's contract that stopped him from being on Flip

Was hyped that at Cordova got on, but yeah everything is just different now

[EdLawndale]

Not only do I think those former riders get paid of those reissue decks, I think they most likely had to authorize them, which is why we don't see the Rowley deck. It's just a one-of that I'm guessing they negotiated. But I'm just speculating with an educated guess.

[BurgerCop]

think it's telling how rowley isn't in that line-up of reissues when he's the most obvious selling point

Would it be because he has his own completely separate company now? Wouldn't that kinda be like Birdhouse releasing Reynolds decks?

...wait...does he still have a company? What was it...Freedome or something? Is that still a thing?
Man that's not a great name.

[Baglady]

We flop

[HisNameIsntWarren]

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think it's telling how rowley isn't in that line-up of reissues when he's the most obvious selling point

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Would it be because he has his own completely separate company now? Wouldn't that kinda be like Birdhouse releasing Reynolds decks?

...wait...does he still have a company? What was it...Freedome or something? Is that still a thing?
Man that's not a great name.

Rowley had a huge falling out with Flip that led to legal issues between the two. Speculation is over money and possibly ownership in the brand? Something like that. Don’t think they’re on good terms whatsoever.

Yes he is still on Freedome and he just released a part with them that should be out any day now. Still killing it in the streets, still GOAT status.

And to the OP, yes Flip sucks now and there’s no coming back for them. Makes me wonder what Penny’s contract looks like.

[Bhaktih]

Flip flopped?

[Wienerboy]

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think it's telling how rowley isn't in that line-up of reissues when he's the most obvious selling point

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Would it be because he has his own completely separate company now? Wouldn't that kinda be like Birdhouse releasing Reynolds decks?

...wait...does he still have a company? What was it...Freedome or something? Is that still a thing?
Man that's not a great name.

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Rowley had a huge falling out with Flip that led to legal issues between the two. Speculation is over money and possibly ownership in the brand? Something like that. Don’t think they’re on good terms whatsoever.

Yes he is still on Freedome and he just released a part with them that should be out any day now. Still killing it in the streets, still GOAT status.

And to the OP, yes Flip sucks now and there’s no coming back for them. Makes me wonder what Penny’s contract looks like.

I had no idea about Rowley's new company called.... Fredome? That's just such a bad name. Always have loved Rowley and bummed to hear about hte falling out with Flip. But he is kinda quite the patriot these days, hay? Very free of him

[newMe]

Anyone know how Rowley fell out with Flip? Like what's the beef? Generally curious...

[Abyss1]

Flip flopped?

[doublesteveburger]

it's not the most popular brand by any stretch but you dudes are reaching not knowing about geoff's company

[Wienerboy]

it's not the most popular brand by any stretch but you dudes are reaching not knowing about geoff's company

I truly have never heard of it. I have seen a few mentions on Slap of "Freedome" but I thought it was another classic Slap play-on-words comparable to "of" and "off". And I didn't think twice about it, especially when the company name sounds like they're offering blowjobs for free. It's a joke that writes itself.

[swellbowed]

Anyone know how Rowley fell out with Flip? Like what's the beef? Generally curious...

Quote from Rowley: "I am proud to have been riding for Flip for over twenty years, enjoying many years of success and good times. But, as a rider the time has come for me to part ways with the brand.

I have nothing but love for the team, past and present, and wish all continued success for Flip. Exciting new opportunities will allow me to be utilized to my fullest potential, and I’ll be divulging more in the coming months on the positive change for the future.”

My guess is that he was getting bored and wanted to start something new where he had creative control. Thus starting Freedome shortly after leaving
https://freedometoskate.com/

Flip has been a shell of a company for years now. Last good thing that came out of flip was Flip 3 and that was 8 years ago

[mooraga]

I dunno how they have survived this long

At least in my country I havent seen a fresh brand new Flip board since 2014-2015, Ive seen deadstock but I rather buy some popsicle sticks with sandpaper as griptape

[Tom Pearl]

I dunno how they have survived this long

At least in my country I havent seen a fresh brand new Flip board since 2014-2015, Ive seen deadstock but I rather buy some popsicle sticks with sandpaper as griptape

penny/cheech n chong

[Dark Knight]

I wonder how much Penny has made from the Cheech and Chong board.  Shit, I had one back in the day.

[stringsnthings]

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Anyone know how Rowley fell out with Flip? Like what's the beef? Generally curious...

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Quote from Rowley: "I am proud to have been riding for Flip for over twenty years, enjoying many years of success and good times. But, as a rider the time has come for me to part ways with the brand.

I have nothing but love for the team, past and present, and wish all continued success for Flip. Exciting new opportunities will allow me to be utilized to my fullest potential, and I’ll be divulging more in the coming months on the positive change for the future.”

My guess is that he was getting bored and wanted to start something new where he had creative control. Thus starting Freedome shortly after leaving
https://freedometoskate.com/

Flip has been a shell of a company for years now. Last good thing that came out of flip was Flip 3 and that was 8 years ago

I'll never find the exact thread on here but iirc her put like 50% of his earnings back into Flip to keep it going at some point and it got messy legally/financially and Geoff may still have a lawsuit with Flip.

[conan777]

Flip have the worst graphics of any brand (along with Plan B) and have seemed directionless for the last 15 years

[Watson]

Summit ifffy goin on down there

[Roisto]

Flip have the worst graphics of any brand (along with Plan B) and have seemed directionless for the last 15 years

Also one of the worst names. I never liked Flip even though they had a whole bunch of cool riders and made good videos. It all just seemed so off, even worse than Element. All because of the name and crummy graphics I guess.

[Aerozzmith]

When Tom Penny will ride a skateboard with your brand name on it, you can be/ do/ say just about anything you like as a company.

The man has the greatest style of all time in the streets, he can fucking fly off ramps, and skated vert well.

Any thread mentioning Flip could just be Penny appreciation in my opinion. They should’ve given Rowley whatever he wanted.

[camel filters]

When Tom Penny will ride a skateboard with your brand name on it, you can be/ do/ say just about anything you like as a company.

The man has the greatest style of all time in the streets, he can fucking fly off ramps, and skated vert well.

Any thread mentioning Flip could just be Penny appreciation in my opinion. They should’ve given Rowley whatever he wanted.

This is the exact philosophy that made Flip what is today. A backwards facing, irrelevant company that hopes you have a good memory.

[toe_knee]

Summit ifffy goin on down there

HA

[WorldsbestWeedsm0ker]

There last peak was during the tech board era - I was of the generation that fell hard for all of that p2 Ultra pop type shit around 2009 or so

[dannyprovolone]

my bros, all these brands are directionless

[Seadramon]

There's a thread specifically about the Rowley/Flip separation. Which includes a copy of the lawsuit Rowley filed against Fox for the money owed to him.

It was pretty heavy. Geoff was keeping Flip afloat for years.

[MexicanSpaniard]

Flip exists? Not in Texas other than Penny fans

[Terminal]

my bros, all these brands are directionless

This

[slimvanilla]

they fucked up when they switched up their logo. the medieval spiky flip logo is goated