When did it become acceptable to drag your tail on 5.0’s???

[KGB]

Asking for a friend. That was never OK in the 90’s. Who’s the worst offender? Which ones are acceptable?
I can give a pass on a giant tail but not a ledge.

[augustmoon]

It was always acceptable as far as I know.  It’s a 5.0 grind not a manual grind.  The back truck grinds, the front truck is in the air.  Balancing is a bonus, but not a requisite.  Look at how they’re done on ramp, where everything originated.


 I hardly remember anyone in the 90s caring about this until Jamie Thomas started doing backside ones like that and when Photosynthesis came out

[KGB]

It was always acceptable as far as I know.  It’s a 5.0 grind not a manual grind.  The back truck grinds, the front truck is in the air.  Balancing is a bonus, but not a requisite.  Look at how they’re done on ramp, where everything originated.


 I hardly remember anyone in the 90s caring about this until Jamie Thomas started doing backside ones like that and when Photosynthesis came out

Yeah I don’t know, my friends all cared and would harrass you if you dragged. Plus I’ve heard pros talk about it before so I’m not crazy. Well not entirely.

[JugeL]

Manual grinds look awful

[RoaryMcTwang]

I still think it looks better if the tail is dragged, especially frontside. Nosegrinds should definitely be balanced though.

[DM]

180 nosegrinds look fine with the nose dragging. Always did them like that.

[KGB]

I’ve learned to like them, it just always felt like cheating because it’s so much easier.

[Magnolia]

I try to balance mine, but I don't mind some scrape on a fs 5-0. Bs 5-0s and nosegrinds can't scrape tho

[Newphone]

Balance em for sure

[matureoftheocean]

I still think it looks better if the tail is dragged, especially frontside. Nosegrinds should definitely be balanced though.

Yep, hated some of chris roberts' 5-0's because of the balancing

[Newphone]

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I still think it looks better if the tail is dragged, especially frontside. Nosegrinds should definitely be balanced though.

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Yep, hated some of chris roberts' 5-0's because of the balancing

Bet you gave Pops a pass though…

[TwisT]

as a balanced nose grinder, the idea of a balance of 5-0 never really struck me as the thing to do. Maybe due to a lack of respect we culturally have for 5-0s?

Anyway, as long as I remember, 5s have always been draggable unless your homie who does mannies calls you out.

[augustmoon]

This.  I feel like we’re being gaslit by manual guys. 

[behavioralguide]

Balancing a long fs 5-0 is for psychos

[yghartsyrt]

It was always acceptable as far as I know.  It’s a 5.0 grind not a manual grind.  The back truck grinds, the front truck is in the air.  Balancing is a bonus, but not a requisite.  Look at how they’re done on ramp, where everything originated.


 I hardly remember anyone in the 90s caring about this until Jamie Thomas started doing backside ones like that and when Photosynthesis came out

[ThomasShitt]

5050 front shuv era nothing matters

[MOE SYZLAK]

When people realized that policing how other people ride their skateboards is the lamest shit.

[Boog]

I've always thought it didn't matter if your tail was dragging on a 5-0. I like the way they look when they're balanced on a handrail tho.

[devils acrobat]

My rules
Tail down on transition if you really lean into it
Balance that shit if on a straight ledge

No offence, and maybe hot take, but I dont care much about what was (possibly) acceptable in skating 3 decades ago. Skating, style, our culture has evolved and so do 'rules'.

[bartlaser]

I could go either way with 5-0s.  Nosegrinds for sure need to be balanced.

My least fave is when someone boardslides, loses balance, and starts scraping their truck to hold on, and the shit starts to look like a dangling booger.  Ok for a rough cut but that shouldn't make the final edit.

[friendly dave]

Dragging your tail is fine. Now Dragging your heel on a backside 5-0 is unacceptable.

[Yakusoku2]

Do them as you like. Style is something personal and not bound by rules. Personally, I would make them balanced, without dragging the tail or nose, simply for the added challenge.

[silhouette]

Balancing a long fs 5-0 is for psychos

Feels really good though, especially if there is some resistance from the texture but it's still slick enough so you don't stick (on skatepark metal kind of sucks because you just glide with little feeling). But I think even better when balanced but short and popping out mid ledge, and either way you have to go fast.

It feels weird having to specify 'balanced' because the idea of not balancing a frontside 5-0 but by accident never crossed my mind in twenty plus years. Mind you I'm talking ledges, not rails. To me proper definition and form for 5-0 and nosegrind always was wheelie and nosewheelie ideal just you're grinding, it's part of the principle and just sometimes you slip. Idea of downright sitting on top of the truck crunching it with all your weight, crooked grind style, on purpose feels super gross.

[Dirty Douggie]

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I still think it looks better if the tail is dragged, especially frontside. Nosegrinds should definitely be balanced though.

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Yep, hated some of chris roberts' 5-0's because of the balancing

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Bet you gave Pops a pass though…

He did balance his nosegrinds but not his 5-0s as far as I remember...
I actually don't remember any regular 5-0 of him (Photo, Mosaic, FF ?? I.E. maybe.. )


Balanced 5-0s look wrong to me, especially frontside. A lot of curb tricks come from transition, but this one feels particularly similar to the original transition trick.Then, balancing it comes off a bit odd.
I also immediately thought of Crob, but i felt like he broke the mould by balancing fir so long it in Hot Choc. He sort of turned a hesh trick into a tech one. Still an exception, though.

[Mall Grab Mike]

When they became over 12ft long.

[KGB]

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Feels really good though, especially if there is some resistance from the texture but it's still slick enough so you don't stick (on skatepark metal kind of sucks because you just glide with little feeling). But I think even better when balanced but short and popping out mid ledge, and either way you have to go fast.

It feels weird having to specify 'balanced' because the idea of not balancing a frontside 5-0 but by accident never crossed my mind in twenty plus years. Mind you I'm talking ledges, not rails. To me proper definition and form for 5-0 and nosegrind always was wheelie and nosewheelie ideal just you're grinding, it's part of the principle and just sometimes you slip. Idea of downright sitting on top of the truck crunching it with all your weight, crooked grind style, on purpose feels super gross.

Glad somebody understands. I have always pretty much been in the same mindset.

[Dark Knight]

It’s always been acceptable.  The no-touch “rule” has usually been reserved for tricks balanced on the front truck with the exception of crooked grinds.

[GrayCellGreen]

I never knew it was unacceptable at some point to drag your tail on a 5-0. In my opinion, the only 5-0s that should be balanced are fakie ones.

Could you imagine if that back 5-0 to switch front crook that Taylor Kirby did in his recent part if it was balanced? It would have looked hideous

[yghartsyrt]

Balanced nollie 5-0s look like shit - although many would argue that they look like shit in general, but I do like them (but not balanced)

[Mean salto]

Unpopular opinion: it's way easier to do a manual/nosemanual style grind than a fully pressed in one. Obvs you can be a wax gremlin and 5-0 where you're really not doing anything but generally leaning back while pushing the grind forwards with your feet is more dangerous than just doing a Manny style where you can simply drop it to 5050 if it sticks or then start dragging the tail if it's slipping out.

I'm a manual style grinder tho so maybe others won't feel the same way.