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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1410 on: September 18, 2025, 12:49:55 PM »
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Did people a favor, Kimmel isn’t funny. Put Jay Mohr or someone that actually knows how to have a conversation with someone and doesn’t just laugh about bs.
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Silencing dissenting speech against the state, and speech in general, is not something to lightly brush aside nor celebrate.

Everyone should be alarmed by this type of behavior. It doesn’t end with people standing on either the right or left, we are all equally impacted by this. The right will be impacted when it’s too late, and they realize the machine turned against them and never really represented them.
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Trump was literally banned on all social media platforms for like 2 years, did you guys have the same feelings about that? Doubt it. Free speech only matters to you guys as long as it aligns with your viewpoints.

This response tells me you don’t understand censorship and the first amendment without you having to say it.

There’s a BIG difference between language violating terms of service with a private company — which he did and was banned for until Elon bought it and released him from Twitter jail — and the government surpressing your speech.

Free speech in general doesn’t mean freedom from reprecussions. Like if he went on air and said the n-word, then yea, take him off.

But Free Speech in terms of the First Amendment means the government can’t surpress you. Which is the care here because he said something that Trump and MAGA didn’t like (not hate, just observational commentary) and Trump used his power and position to pressure the FCC to basically create a quid-pro-quo — removing Kimmel to approve a merger.

This is attempted control of the media by the government. Which is also out of the Project 2025 playbook.

Much like Trump banning certain media sources from the  White House press room because he deems them “fake” while putting known propaganders like Tim Pool, Newsmax, and Fox right up front.


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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1411 on: September 18, 2025, 01:00:46 PM »
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Did people a favor, Kimmel isn’t funny. Put Jay Mohr or someone that actually knows how to have a conversation with someone and doesn’t just laugh about bs.
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Silencing dissenting speech against the state, and speech in general, is not something to lightly brush aside nor celebrate.

Everyone should be alarmed by this type of behavior. It doesn’t end with people standing on either the right or left, we are all equally impacted by this. The right will be impacted when it’s too late, and they realize the machine turned against them and never really represented them.
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Trump was literally banned on all social media platforms for like 2 years, did you guys have the same feelings about that? Doubt it. Free speech only matters to you guys as long as it aligns with your viewpoints.
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It baffles me that you can't tell the difference. Kimmel being taken off the air is censorship by proxy. It's the government pressuring private action, and that is a violation of the First Amendment. It is also so fucking clearly happening because Nexstar wants to merge with another company so they can acquire more stations, and they can't do that without the FCC's approval. DT being banned on social media was a consequence he earned that was handed down from those individual companies for violating their individual rules of conduct.

Thank you, but that poster DOES know what he’s doing with his bad faith whataboutism style argument. He probably also doesn’t want to mention that his guy was using social media to deliberately lie to and mislead the masses, as well as foment an insurrection.

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1412 on: September 18, 2025, 01:08:01 PM »
Tasty is correct here. There is a difference between a private company having terms of service and the government censoring people directly or indirectly through the threat of (targeted) "regulation" because a comedian said something someone in authority didn't like.

However, I think the even easier distinction here is inciting a riot at the Capitol is not even close to pointing out that Trump's grievance--one of the most selfish people on the planet--might have been performance and a bad one at that since he was more interested in discussing the construction of a ballroom (lol, man of the working class) and then went on vacation instead of attending the funeral.

The issue we face is businesses are caving to Trump's authoritarianism and his cabinet meetings look like they could be held in N. Korea. And, our media, in search of profits in a moment when streaming has really hurt profits, is willing to turn itself into same traditional media environment we see in Russia. That leaves us at the whim of YouTube and the podcasts, who likely see positive times ahead, but it is partially their algorithms that create these problems. I searched YouTube for some silly rocketship gambling game, I had Jordan Peterson and Carlson clogging up my suggestions immediately after.

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1413 on: September 18, 2025, 01:12:24 PM »
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Did people a favor, Kimmel isn’t funny. Put Jay Mohr or someone that actually knows how to have a conversation with someone and doesn’t just laugh about bs.
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Silencing dissenting speech against the state, and speech in general, is not something to lightly brush aside nor celebrate.

Everyone should be alarmed by this type of behavior. It doesn’t end with people standing on either the right or left, we are all equally impacted by this. The right will be impacted when it’s too late, and they realize the machine turned against them and never really represented them.
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Trump was literally banned on all social media platforms for like 2 years, did you guys have the same feelings about that? Doubt it. Free speech only matters to you guys as long as it aligns with your viewpoints.
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It baffles me that you can't tell the difference. Kimmel being taken off the air is censorship by proxy. It's the government pressuring private action, and that is a violation of the First Amendment. It is also so fucking clearly happening because Nexstar wants to merge with another company so they can acquire more stations, and they can't do that without the FCC's approval. DT being banned on social media was a consequence he earned that was handed down from those individual companies for violating their individual rules of conduct.

I’m sure this hurts to read

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1414 on: September 18, 2025, 01:21:39 PM »
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Did people a favor, Kimmel isn’t funny. Put Jay Mohr or someone that actually knows how to have a conversation with someone and doesn’t just laugh about bs.
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Silencing dissenting speech against the state, and speech in general, is not something to lightly brush aside nor celebrate.

Everyone should be alarmed by this type of behavior. It doesn’t end with people standing on either the right or left, we are all equally impacted by this. The right will be impacted when it’s too late, and they realize the machine turned against them and never really represented them.
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Trump was literally banned on all social media platforms for like 2 years, did you guys have the same feelings about that? Doubt it. Free speech only matters to you guys as long as it aligns with your viewpoints.
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It baffles me that you can't tell the difference. Kimmel being taken off the air is censorship by proxy. It's the government pressuring private action, and that is a violation of the First Amendment. It is also so fucking clearly happening because Nexstar wants to merge with another company so they can acquire more stations, and they can't do that without the FCC's approval. DT being banned on social media was a consequence he earned that was handed down from those individual companies for violating their individual rules of conduct.
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I’m sure this hurts to read


No one is emotionally invested quite like a cultist right winger, so no.. it doesn’t hurt to read.

Social media shouldn’t be pushing/platforming propaganda and deliberately false information.

It’s not even a left/right issue.

Again with the whataboutism (which is actually a divisive Russian social tactic). It’s not a strong argument my guy.

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1415 on: September 18, 2025, 01:35:14 PM »
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Did people a favor, Kimmel isn’t funny. Put Jay Mohr or someone that actually knows how to have a conversation with someone and doesn’t just laugh about bs.
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Silencing dissenting speech against the state, and speech in general, is not something to lightly brush aside nor celebrate.

Everyone should be alarmed by this type of behavior. It doesn’t end with people standing on either the right or left, we are all equally impacted by this. The right will be impacted when it’s too late, and they realize the machine turned against them and never really represented them.
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Trump was literally banned on all social media platforms for like 2 years, did you guys have the same feelings about that? Doubt it. Free speech only matters to you guys as long as it aligns with your viewpoints.

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1416 on: September 18, 2025, 01:40:04 PM »
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Did people a favor, Kimmel isn’t funny. Put Jay Mohr or someone that actually knows how to have a conversation with someone and doesn’t just laugh about bs.
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Silencing dissenting speech against the state, and speech in general, is not something to lightly brush aside nor celebrate.

Everyone should be alarmed by this type of behavior. It doesn’t end with people standing on either the right or left, we are all equally impacted by this. The right will be impacted when it’s too late, and they realize the machine turned against them and never really represented them.
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Trump was literally banned on all social media platforms for like 2 years, did you guys have the same feelings about that? Doubt it. Free speech only matters to you guys as long as it aligns with your viewpoints.
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It baffles me that you can't tell the difference. Kimmel being taken off the air is censorship by proxy. It's the government pressuring private action, and that is a violation of the First Amendment. It is also so fucking clearly happening because Nexstar wants to merge with another company so they can acquire more stations, and they can't do that without the FCC's approval. DT being banned on social media was a consequence he earned that was handed down from those individual companies for violating their individual rules of conduct.
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I’m sure this hurts to read


Again, this post tells us that you don’t read anything beyond the headline which is written for sensationalism and click-thrus.

If you read the article, he said the White House would ask Meta to remove “humor and satire content” recolving around COVID19. The White House was trying to limit misinformation when it came to the pandemic. Zuckerberg opted not to because of profit.

Like said above, the dangers of using social media as a source of information is that there’s no way to truly vett what is correct and what is misinformation — which is what all the Russian interference was based off of.





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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1417 on: September 18, 2025, 01:58:27 PM »
I'll agree that some mistakes were made during the Biden admin when they were trying to protect public health and prevent deaths/the healthcare system from being overwhelmed. But, first, let's remember that motive here is key. Protecting Americans from injecting bleach into their bodies or sucking down horse medications, is not the same as protecting the image or feelings of a president. Second, let's get some of the facts straight:

"[Amy Coney Barret] said, the plaintiffs who brought the case maintained that the White House had bombarded Twitter with requests to set up a streamlined process for censorship requests. But in fact, she said, the record showed no such requests. Rather, on one occasion a White House official asked Twitter to remove a fake account pretending to be the account of Biden's granddaughter. Twitter took down the fake account and told the official about a portal that could be used in the future to flag similar issues."

Asking social media not to present covid misinformation is not the same as taking away licenses or suing companies for billions because they criticize a political "leader." If this was an "equal problem" AM radio stations who primarily pay the bills through outrage content would have been taken off the air long ago.



And let's not forget all the lawsuits Trump has against people saying things that don't flatter him enough. I'm trying to find a list of lawsuits Biden had against people who said mean things about him. Nothing is coming up for me. But, let's hear more about how both sides are equally wrong.
https://www.axios.com/2025/07/22/trump-lawsuits-wsj-npr-pbs

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1418 on: September 18, 2025, 04:30:15 PM »
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Did people a favor, Kimmel isn’t funny. Put Jay Mohr or someone that actually knows how to have a conversation with someone and doesn’t just laugh about bs.
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Silencing dissenting speech against the state, and speech in general, is not something to lightly brush aside nor celebrate.

Everyone should be alarmed by this type of behavior. It doesn’t end with people standing on either the right or left, we are all equally impacted by this. The right will be impacted when it’s too late, and they realize the machine turned against them and never really represented them.
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Trump was literally banned on all social media platforms for like 2 years, did you guys have the same feelings about that? Doubt it. Free speech only matters to you guys as long as it aligns with your viewpoints.

spreading false information does NOT equal freedom of speech....

It's hilarious how people claiming "mah freedumb of speeech" don't even know what it means, and thinks it gives them a right to spew hateful racist and dangerous shit from their mouths.....

You're literally a dumbass
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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1419 on: September 18, 2025, 05:59:48 PM »


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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1420 on: September 18, 2025, 07:02:02 PM »
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The idea that anyone really thought the killer was a Nick Fuentes fan is pretty amusing.

It was a painfully obvious coping mechanism for the gravedancers who felt the need to morally distance themselves from the killer while still being happy about what he did. This has backfired spectacularly, because a lot more people noticed that than you think.
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What are you trying to say?   How has his motives or associations been proven in any capacity for you to say this?
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if we’re going by the narrative, it is absolutely cope to think a groyper, of all people, is going to engrave “bella ciao” and “hey fascist catch” on bullets to assassinate charlie kirk

also, maga parents ≠ maga kid, kids of conservative parents rebel by turning left, a tale as old as time
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What about “if you’re reading this, you’re gay”?   Or the Owo one?   Sounds like dumb internet shit

Isn’t the whole point of this person like the Minnesota person is to have a bunch of contradictory opinions and beliefs to hide behind
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by prefacing my last post with “if we’re going by the narrative”, i mean i also don’t trust what we are being told. but going off of that no i don’t think he’s of the same nihilistic strain as the minneapolis shooter. “owo what’s this” and “if you’re reading this you’re gay” is like chapo-tier shit.
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Im not that plugged into the internet or discord or wherever this stuff comes from to know.   Don’t even know what chapo-tier means.  I’m aware of chapo trap house…
Speaking of Chapo Trap House, their sept 18 episode is worth a listen. They refer to T. Robinson as a "meme-kid" and i think i agree.

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1421 on: September 18, 2025, 07:18:58 PM »
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Did people a favor, Kimmel isn’t funny. Put Jay Mohr or someone that actually knows how to have a conversation with someone and doesn’t just laugh about bs.
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Silencing dissenting speech against the state, and speech in general, is not something to lightly brush aside nor celebrate.

Everyone should be alarmed by this type of behavior. It doesn’t end with people standing on either the right or left, we are all equally impacted by this. The right will be impacted when it’s too late, and they realize the machine turned against them and never really represented them.
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Trump was literally banned on all social media platforms for like 2 years, did you guys have the same feelings about that? Doubt it. Free speech only matters to you guys as long as it aligns with your viewpoints.
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spreading false information does NOT equal freedom of speech....

It's hilarious how people claiming "mah freedumb of speeech" don't even know what it means, and thinks it gives them a right to spew hateful racist and dangerous shit from their mouths.....

You're literally a dumbass

Jimmy Kimmel literally did that buddy

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1423 on: September 18, 2025, 07:51:50 PM »
Kimmel got canceled for falling for the same shit Slap did.

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1424 on: September 18, 2025, 08:02:29 PM »
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Did people a favor, Kimmel isn’t funny. Put Jay Mohr or someone that actually knows how to have a conversation with someone and doesn’t just laugh about bs.
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Silencing dissenting speech against the state, and speech in general, is not something to lightly brush aside nor celebrate.

Everyone should be alarmed by this type of behavior. It doesn’t end with people standing on either the right or left, we are all equally impacted by this. The right will be impacted when it’s too late, and they realize the machine turned against them and never really represented them.
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Trump was literally banned on all social media platforms for like 2 years, did you guys have the same feelings about that? Doubt it. Free speech only matters to you guys as long as it aligns with your viewpoints.
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spreading false information does NOT equal freedom of speech....

It's hilarious how people claiming "mah freedumb of speeech" don't even know what it means, and thinks it gives them a right to spew hateful racist and dangerous shit from their mouths.....

You're literally a dumbass
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Jimmy Kimmel literally did that buddy

Bruh, based off this response, it’s apparent you don’t know that you’re supposed to stop pushing the q-tip in once you start to feel resistance.

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1425 on: September 18, 2025, 08:43:02 PM »
Kimmel got canceled for falling for the same shit Slap did.

He didn’t get cancelled

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1426 on: September 18, 2025, 09:23:42 PM »
So I wonder what will happen with south park. Just saw they posted somethin saying the ep wasnt finished. Could be some truth in that.
They've been roastin the fuck outta that dude.
Are they being silenced? What yall think?

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1427 on: September 18, 2025, 09:46:16 PM »
So I wonder what will happen with south park. Just saw they posted somethin saying the ep wasnt finished. Could be some truth in that.
They've been roastin the fuck outta that dude.
Are they being silenced? What yall think?

I think it’s exactly what they said.   They work on it six days before it airs and they probably wanted to get it really right and it took them a little more time.   

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1428 on: September 18, 2025, 09:49:39 PM »
So I wonder what will happen with south park. Just saw they posted somethin saying the ep wasnt finished. Could be some truth in that.
They've been roastin the fuck outta that dude.
Are they being silenced? What yall think?

In my opinion, they probably had a roast or two about him in the episode but pivoted out of respect for the dead.

Even Kirk’s producer says Kirk liked being saterized on the show and said he’d want the episode back up.

https://variety.com/2025/tv/news/charlie-kirk-would-want-south-park-episode-to-air-1236523230/

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1429 on: September 18, 2025, 11:02:00 PM »
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Did people a favor, Kimmel isn’t funny. Put Jay Mohr or someone that actually knows how to have a conversation with someone and doesn’t just laugh about bs.
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Silencing dissenting speech against the state, and speech in general, is not something to lightly brush aside nor celebrate.

Everyone should be alarmed by this type of behavior. It doesn’t end with people standing on either the right or left, we are all equally impacted by this. The right will be impacted when it’s too late, and they realize the machine turned against them and never really represented them.
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Trump was literally banned on all social media platforms for like 2 years, did you guys have the same feelings about that? Doubt it. Free speech only matters to you guys as long as it aligns with your viewpoints.
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spreading false information does NOT equal freedom of speech....

It's hilarious how people claiming "mah freedumb of speeech" don't even know what it means, and thinks it gives them a right to spew hateful racist and dangerous shit from their mouths.....

You're literally a dumbass
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Jimmy Kimmel literally did that buddy

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1430 on: September 18, 2025, 11:43:03 PM »
American political discussions are so depressing^

You are not even talking about anything you are just trying to make the other side look worse!

You should be against much of the shit Trump is doing even as a Republican. He‘s eroding the democratic system itself… who is to say a democratic president won’t use the same tactics against you?

Everyone should agree that government pressure to silence oppositional voices is a problem.

Another thing that should be talked about is the absolute power of social media companies. It is a problem when the digital town square is owned by Musk and Zuckerberg and they record every single word that is said and can incentivize speech and to a large extent even create digital reality itself. They should be forced to disclose their algorithms. It should be transparent like the ingredients of food products.

Also, Why are these monopolies not broken up?

Both sides should agree to this.

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1431 on: September 19, 2025, 06:35:13 AM »
American political discussions are so depressing^

You are not even talking about anything you are just trying to make the other side look worse!

This is the major problem with the American two-party system — no compromise is needed, just majority. And until a major third party comes along it will be like this again and again.

Prior to Trump’s first administration, there used to be some reaching across the aisle when it came to some issues but now, you can see why Trump and GOP were pushing mid-term redistricting because with Congressional majority in both the House and Senate, there’s no need to reach across the aisle — it’s about getting power and staying in power.


Also, Why are these monopolies not broken up?


In a rudimentary reasoning: Lassiez-Faire. The belief of little to no Government interference in business. Also combined with the 90s ruling led by Mitch McConnell to let more money into politics by allowing corporate lobbying simply let these businesses buy their way into legislation.

Look at Kyrsten Sinema who ran to help the people, took corporate money, and all her decisions as a Senator were based on who funded her campaign. Basically a huge 180 of her promises when on the campaign trail.

It’s why tobacco, oil, NRA, etc., can get away with so much, because they can effect the economy and people’s political future. Campaigning is hard and expensive, so people who work for their corporate lobby get to stay in power and once there, no longer needing to listen to the people they represent. Much like why those who take 6/7-figure donations from the NRA are also the ones who are the quickest to move on from gun violence and kill any kind of gun legislaton. Same with those who take money from Oil — fighting climate control and environmental laws and regulation.

Both sides should agree to this.

Bernie Sanders delivered a lecture that best described this in the early 2000s, that the best way to pass the legislation you want is to divide people on every issue, no matter how small. Keeping the people divided is a distraction that has us constantly at each other’s throats.

https://youtu.be/aHTeMTC4aTg?si=5c8_5lcaPvOo2Q-A

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1432 on: September 19, 2025, 07:16:51 AM »
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Did people a favor, Kimmel isn’t funny. Put Jay Mohr or someone that actually knows how to have a conversation with someone and doesn’t just laugh about bs.
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Silencing dissenting speech against the state, and speech in general, is not something to lightly brush aside nor celebrate.

Everyone should be alarmed by this type of behavior. It doesn’t end with people standing on either the right or left, we are all equally impacted by this. The right will be impacted when it’s too late, and they realize the machine turned against them and never really represented them.
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Trump was literally banned on all social media platforms for like 2 years, did you guys have the same feelings about that? Doubt it. Free speech only matters to you guys as long as it aligns with your viewpoints.
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spreading false information does NOT equal freedom of speech....

It's hilarious how people claiming "mah freedumb of speeech" don't even know what it means, and thinks it gives them a right to spew hateful racist and dangerous shit from their mouths.....

You're literally a dumbass
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Jimmy Kimmel literally did that buddy

What did Jimmy Kimmel say that was untrue?

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1433 on: September 19, 2025, 07:29:00 AM »
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Did people a favor, Kimmel isn’t funny. Put Jay Mohr or someone that actually knows how to have a conversation with someone and doesn’t just laugh about bs.
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Silencing dissenting speech against the state, and speech in general, is not something to lightly brush aside nor celebrate.

Everyone should be alarmed by this type of behavior. It doesn’t end with people standing on either the right or left, we are all equally impacted by this. The right will be impacted when it’s too late, and they realize the machine turned against them and never really represented them.
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Trump was literally banned on all social media platforms for like 2 years, did you guys have the same feelings about that? Doubt it. Free speech only matters to you guys as long as it aligns with your viewpoints.
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spreading false information does NOT equal freedom of speech....

It's hilarious how people claiming "mah freedumb of speeech" don't even know what it means, and thinks it gives them a right to spew hateful racist and dangerous shit from their mouths.....

You're literally a dumbass
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Jimmy Kimmel literally did that buddy
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What did Jimmy Kimmel say that was untrue?

LOL. We all know they didn’t listen/read what Kimmel said. They just read a screenshot of Trump’s Truth Social post and went off that.

Independent thinking isn’t their strong suit.

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1434 on: September 19, 2025, 07:58:02 AM »
Yes, like @S. Said, and I mentioned earlier. The erosion of rights affects us all. This isn’t even about sides.

Furthermore, this is all co-signed by our capitalist overlords. If all you see is left or right, and are too dumb to realize your rights are being stripped from above then you’re oblivious to the absolute truth.

Right wing voters need to wake up. Where you guys fail is you continue to champion politicians who are taking from all of us, not just those of on the left. The left is struggling trying to hold their own accountable for only concerning themselves with the interests of their donors, and who are doing the very same thing. The left calls the right daft because they don’t see what’s really happening, they just cheer on the attacks while all of us are equally being damaged.
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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1435 on: September 19, 2025, 08:27:34 AM »
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Did people a favor, Kimmel isn’t funny. Put Jay Mohr or someone that actually knows how to have a conversation with someone and doesn’t just laugh about bs.
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Silencing dissenting speech against the state, and speech in general, is not something to lightly brush aside nor celebrate.

Everyone should be alarmed by this type of behavior. It doesn’t end with people standing on either the right or left, we are all equally impacted by this. The right will be impacted when it’s too late, and they realize the machine turned against them and never really represented them.
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Trump was literally banned on all social media platforms for like 2 years, did you guys have the same feelings about that? Doubt it. Free speech only matters to you guys as long as it aligns with your viewpoints.
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Welcome back marinara, go fuck yourself
This timeline fucking sucks. Fuck this country and it's politics. Honestly it's so exhausting that eating a bullet sounds quite appetizing.

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1436 on: September 19, 2025, 11:32:02 AM »
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American political discussions are so depressing^

You are not even talking about anything you are just trying to make the other side look worse!
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This is the major problem with the American two-party system — no compromise is needed, just majority. And until a major third party comes along it will be like this again and again.

Prior to Trump’s first administration, there used to be some reaching across the aisle when it came to some issues but now, you can see why Trump and GOP were pushing mid-term redistricting because with Congressional majority in both the House and Senate, there’s no need to reach across the aisle — it’s about getting power and staying in power.

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Also, Why are these monopolies not broken up?

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In a rudimentary reasoning: Lassiez-Faire. The belief of little to no Government interference in business. Also combined with the 90s ruling led by Mitch McConnell to let more money into politics by allowing corporate lobbying simply let these businesses buy their way into legislation.

Look at Kyrsten Sinema who ran to help the people, took corporate money, and all her decisions as a Senator were based on who funded her campaign. Basically a huge 180 of her promises when on the campaign trail.

It’s why tobacco, oil, NRA, etc., can get away with so much, because they can effect the economy and people’s political future. Campaigning is hard and expensive, so people who work for their corporate lobby get to stay in power and once there, no longer needing to listen to the people they represent. Much like why those who take 6/7-figure donations from the NRA are also the ones who are the quickest to move on from gun violence and kill any kind of gun legislaton. Same with those who take money from Oil — fighting climate control and environmental laws and regulation.

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Both sides should agree to this.
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Bernie Sanders delivered a lecture that best described this in the early 2000s, that the best way to pass the legislation you want is to divide people on every issue, no matter how small. Keeping the people divided is a distraction that has us constantly at each other’s throats.

https://youtu.be/aHTeMTC4aTg?si=5c8_5lcaPvOo2Q-A

„ In a rudimentary reasoning: Lassiez-Faire. “ but with a monopoly there is no more competition…. In a way a company like Amazon controls an entire market place. It is not companies competing in the free market place. It is companies competing in a marketplace dictated and controlled by amazon.  Like a privately owned communist economy within the economy.



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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1437 on: September 19, 2025, 12:20:16 PM »
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Did people a favor, Kimmel isn’t funny. Put Jay Mohr or someone that actually knows how to have a conversation with someone and doesn’t just laugh about bs.
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Silencing dissenting speech against the state, and speech in general, is not something to lightly brush aside nor celebrate.

Everyone should be alarmed by this type of behavior. It doesn’t end with people standing on either the right or left, we are all equally impacted by this. The right will be impacted when it’s too late, and they realize the machine turned against them and never really represented them.
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Trump was literally banned on all social media platforms for like 2 years, did you guys have the same feelings about that? Doubt it. Free speech only matters to you guys as long as it aligns with your viewpoints.
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Welcome back marinara, go fuck yourself
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This timeline fucking sucks. Fuck this country and it's politics. Honestly it's so exhausting that eating a bullet sounds quite appetizing.

I know it’s ruthless out there but maintain hope and stay safe homie, they want you dead, stay alive to resist them.
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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1438 on: September 19, 2025, 12:28:37 PM »
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Did people a favor, Kimmel isn’t funny. Put Jay Mohr or someone that actually knows how to have a conversation with someone and doesn’t just laugh about bs.
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Silencing dissenting speech against the state, and speech in general, is not something to lightly brush aside nor celebrate.

Everyone should be alarmed by this type of behavior. It doesn’t end with people standing on either the right or left, we are all equally impacted by this. The right will be impacted when it’s too late, and they realize the machine turned against them and never really represented them.
[close]

Trump was literally banned on all social media platforms for like 2 years, did you guys have the same feelings about that? Doubt it. Free speech only matters to you guys as long as it aligns with your viewpoints.
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Welcome back marinara, go fuck yourself
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This timeline fucking sucks. Fuck this country and it's politics. Honestly it's so exhausting that eating a bullet sounds quite appetizing.
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I know it’s ruthless out there but maintain hope and stay safe homie, they want you dead, stay alive to resist them.
I have my wife to lean on and that's a lot more than others so I am grateful eternally for her kindness and patience.

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Re: Changes under Trump 2.0
« Reply #1439 on: September 19, 2025, 02:42:59 PM »
I don't think I can be in a conversation about lobbying and not talk about AIPAC. That lobby is probably the reason Trump ultimately won and they continue to keep the Democratic party in a useless state of perpetual infighting. Look at all the resistance to Democratic Socialism that's coming from establishment figures like Hakeem Jeffries even after the party endorsed Zohran Mamdani. The establishment Dems want to roll everything back to 2012 when almost no one in the party wants to return to those politics. Those Dems who have proven themselves utterly useless as opposition remain in power due to their connections to AIPAC. Kamala ignored the genocide in Gaza because her advisors were afraid AIPAC would dump a bunch of money into the opposition campaign. Too bad Elon Musk went ahead and did that anyway. Shoulda rolled the dice on that one. Basically it's like everyone else has said - money has fucked our two party system to pieces.