I remember them pretty well, because I'd just started skating and was 12 or 13 and they had like the first page ad in TWS. I always stuck to Indy, sans a brief defection to Grind King because I thought they were lighter, which they probably were because these were stage 10 Indy's. But Orion had a pretty tight team. I love that pre-streetwear and pre-image era of skateboarding, but the whole TAP's thing came in right after that. Blah.