Some of you guys are crazy.
The Indy cross looks like an iron cross just like any cross looks like one. (1)
Should we ban them all ? (2)
And every national symbols because the far right likes them ? (3)
Of course not.
I'm not religious but the Indy cross is a nice logo, if they dropped it to please the pre-Trump cultural climate it's lame.
If they use it again it is also lame as it shows they have no backbone.
1. Just not true
2. No one is calling for a ban on anything. Just redesign the logo and move on.
3. There's a difference between continuing to use something for it's original purpose that has now been appropriated by racists because you don't want to back down to them (I.E a european church's cross on the architecture)
and appropriating imagery after it has already been appropriated by racists (I.E Independent using the Iron Cross after it was established as fascist iconography). If Ace trucks used a Swastika as their logo, would you argue that because it was the Hindu symbol of peace before that, then therefore it's cool? Or is the difference just the fact that the Iron Cross is slightly lesser known?
Personally fuck em. I guess there's a certain level of plausible deniability of 'We didn't know all the racist undertones and connotations of the logo when we made it, but now seeing them and coming to terms with it, we're no longer using it'
However after they've already admitted this (even if only by removing the logo from circulation) and then rereleasing it. What are we supposed to assume? That now they're very well aware that it's racist iconography, and they're super cool with it.
I wasn't even that bothered by it all in the first place but after all of the clearly racist people came out of the woodwork trying to bring it back, let it fucking die. Now it's not even the Independent logo anymore, it's become a provocative symbol within skateboarding used by idiots like Tim Pool to gloat at the fact they can still buy something with racists undertones just to get one over on the 'woke mob', it's just for saddos.
I know i've harped on about this a lot on these boards but part of this situation stems from the fact that skateboarding is trapped in this shitification of degrading, old brands who clearly don't have any capabilities of rebranding and moving culture forward. They've been stuck in a cycle of trying to appeal to 40 year olds with cash while offering nothing new and exciting for the culture. This is easy and cheap for them because the people who run the brands are just appealing to themselves and rely on churning out things like reissues, old logos, collectors editions. Over the last decade it's just bred a community that shuns change, new ideas and rewards safety and nostalgia over risk and creativity. Err hello, we were meant to be fucking skateboarders?
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