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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #7590 on: April 15, 2026, 05:29:11 AM »
I've been reading that thread for a long time because i'm really curious about those trucks. I skate mostly Thunders, and sometimes Indys but I never owned any Ace trucks. It seems that most of the people here have issues with the quality of manufacturing, whether it's the pivot cups, the kingpin or the bushings. Does anybody ride them without any issues and without having to change some parts?
I've had some minor axle slip on Classics but nothing major that a little tap every once in a while wouldn't take care of. Nothing on AF1 Hollows except had to replace the self-threading axle nuts. I did replace the bushings to hards but I can't see that as a problem in the truck itself.

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #7591 on: April 15, 2026, 07:15:34 AM »
I've been reading that thread for a long time because i'm really curious about those trucks. I skate mostly Thunders, and sometimes Indys but I never owned any Ace trucks. It seems that most of the people here have issues with the quality of manufacturing, whether it's the pivot cups, the kingpin or the bushings. Does anybody ride them without any issues and without having to change some parts?

I would say AF1's are the best built trucks i've skated.

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #7592 on: April 15, 2026, 07:26:05 AM »
I've been reading that thread for a long time because i'm really curious about those trucks. I skate mostly Thunders, and sometimes Indys but I never owned any Ace trucks. It seems that most of the people here have issues with the quality of manufacturing, whether it's the pivot cups, the kingpin or the bushings. Does anybody ride them without any issues and without having to change some parts?

In the real world, I think it is less of an issue. I've had a lot of pairs Ace trucks and bent two axles (one pretty early on and one after I was super close to axle). Never had an issue with pivot cups. I keep waiting for the bushings to explode on my IKPs based on SLAP posts but they are fine. I upgrade to hard Ace bushings except on the IKPS. I keep those stock. I'm not a hard charger by any means but I do skate a lot of curbs and pool coping and I am also not a small person, so my trucks do take some abuse. Ace do wear down pretty quick (both hangers and baseplates), especially the classics but I'm not super concerned about that. Last thing, the AF1 axle nuts wear out and that gets annoying but I think they have improved a bit recently.

Ultimately, it comes down to the feel and turn for me. Nothing feels as good or suits my skateboarding like Ace. They feel great on curbs and bowls and weird wonky transitions which is what I mostly skate. They also liven up the deck I prefer (Huffer with 14.75" WB) nicely. I still remember my first session on Ace and was blown away by how amazing they felt in a tight shallow-end. It was like nothing I had experienced in a truck turn before.

If I was younger and sprightlier I'd likely skate Thunders as I think you get a more 'explosive' pop and I might get a slightly higher ollie out of them. There again,  look at that Emile, he bounces up on almost chest high ledges on Ace so it may just require a better technique.

I think I'll put my T2s on my next setup to completely prove myself wrong.

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #7593 on: April 15, 2026, 08:11:06 AM »
I've been reading that thread for a long time because i'm really curious about those trucks. I skate mostly Thunders, and sometimes Indys but I never owned any Ace trucks. It seems that most of the people here have issues with the quality of manufacturing, whether it's the pivot cups, the kingpin or the bushings. Does anybody ride them without any issues and without having to change some parts?


Seen a lot of sets with zero issues skated to death from people I know and also seen one or two sets with minimal issues (which were warrantied and trucks replaced) from people who skate pretty hard on anything they ride, so I would be going with the majority in that they are perfectly fine with some very few exceptions, which were all covered under regular warranty anyway.

Maybe more so in the earlier days of the truck development, people might have a slightly more skewed version of "many trucks had issues" or similar thoughts, but I think everything has come a fair way since then.


Kingpins break, maybe more so hollow kingpins, especially on inverted trucks, of any brand I have seen.

Axles bend, also on any brand.

Other issues happen, yes on any and every brand...


The only other thing to say, from my own experience riding some of each - Classic and AF1 versions of different widths - is that they really do have a lot more turn than any other truck I had tried up to that point, as well as having the shortest wheelbase of any truck I had tried too, so those two things combined make Ace trucks very quick to turn and rather deep in the whole turn department.

I got used to this easily enough, but it was crazy how going back to any other truck on the same shape board felt like it just wasn't the same, even on my usual comfortable setups that I had not changed at all, so it made everything else feel like it didn't turn enough, or didn't turn fast enough, if that all makes sense.

Every set I have had were just plain stock, normal bushings, only the axle nuts swapped out on AF1 trucks, which is not a big thing, but I would say if you prefer a more solid or stiffer setup in the trucks and bushings department, get a set of the hard 94 duro bushings, or extra hard 99 duro bushings to go with them, just to have options, because these things felt way too loose for a number of people who have tried them, which did very easily put some people off too.


* Bushings are all white, so it is also very easy to mix and match without them seeming weird, eg blue top and orange bottom or some other colour combinations, but maybe just mark somewhere on them so you know what they are.

** Squeeze test with some pliers can also help to figure out which are which too.


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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #7594 on: April 15, 2026, 08:19:46 AM »
Why do they make it feel so hard to pop?

Never had this problem before. Feels like my tail is 6ft from the floor.


As per reply above, Ace have the shortest wheelbase and the quickest / deepest turn, so if the trucks are fairly loose, then quite often your body position will change as you crouch down which then throws off the pop and other things.

Tighter trucks, steeper boards with longer wheelbases / shorter kicks and maybe even just time to get used to new trucks are all things that can help people get more used to Ace trucks in general, for some people, I should add - not for everyone, but coming from something else with very different properties, getting on Ace can be different enough to make things quite difficult until you adapt and get used to how they feel.

What did you have before and what are you riding now - the whole setup, or at least deck dimensions, trucks, risers, wheel size or anything else to note?

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #7595 on: April 15, 2026, 11:06:53 AM »
I have had just about every truck possible in the past few years, and imo Ace has the best construction, least issues out of anything else.

+Bushings are specially designed with 2 different duros - this was clearly very well thought through and it does feel unique in a good way.

+Hangar Construction is unmatched - besides maybe lurpiv (made in same factory). the metal just feels really good, when you feel underneath the hangar is very smooth and feels good in your hands.

+baseplate design is current, never got squeaking in pivot cups either.

+Comes with rethreading nuts is a very good bonus.

+seemingly the only inverted kingpin system that doesnt come loose

downsides:

-they are very heavy, but pretty much the same as Indys.
-only 53mm high but that shouldnt really limit your wheel options
-seemingly a bit more expensive than the other brands
-might feel too loose for some people (they seem more stable than indy to me personally)

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #7596 on: April 15, 2026, 11:35:34 AM »
Firmly disagree with your assessment. Ace had numerous issues with the Classic axles bending, first 2 rounds of AF1 had pivot cup blowout issues, the bushings constantly blow out, and the IKP still have too bushing blowout issues even with their hard bushings.  In talking to 2 local shops that get a massive volume of in person and online orders they have had the most customer complaints with Ace than any other brand, even Thunder which notoriously have bushing issues. You don't hear it as much on here because they have a very big die hard base that is often unwilling to admit that every product has its problems and that all modern gear is great.

The finishing is nice, but this is to be expected from one of the biggest truck production facilities on earth. They definitely look very well polished. My AF1's have always creaked or had the clicking issues. I have a set of AF1 inverted that have been my most problematic trucks in years regardless of it they come loose or not.

I do enjoy the pop on larger decks. They're definitely fun to ride, nice grind, and I think the hanger shape is pretty rad. I don't recommend them over T2 unless you really care about the wheelbase delta. T2 solved what I didn't like about AF1 or Classics, but they're kinda ugly and for me the shorten the WB too much.

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #7597 on: April 15, 2026, 11:50:10 AM »
Clicking goes away once properly broken in from my experience breaking in about a dozen sets of Ace at this point.

All we can conclude here is, some people have issues, some don't. Try 'em or not. Nothing will ever be perfect. And I freely admit I'm willing to overlook the minor issues I have had due to way they feel.

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #7598 on: April 15, 2026, 01:29:47 PM »
I only had 1 set of AF1
i got them a couple years ago, but definitely one of the newer builds. never had classics.
never had any issues with mine

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #7599 on: April 15, 2026, 02:49:18 PM »
Have AF1 44s. Didn't ride them that way for long but no issues. Bout AF1 55 Hollow hanger and put it on my existing base, bushings, etc. Been riding that setup exclusively for most of this year. Still no issues, no creaking, clicking, blowouts, loose nuts or anything else I can think of. Can say the same about all the other kinds of trucks I've used in the last several years, except my Tensor Maglight ATGs do click a little but not enough to bother me or make me not consider them the best trucks out of all of them for me, especially when I'm pretty sure I could just mess with the washers a bit to fix that issue.

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #7600 on: April 15, 2026, 03:52:42 PM »
Ya Slap is mostly selection/survivor bias so people are more likely to over report (my case) or under report their experiences. It is probably shameful to admit that I skate best on Indy's and just prefer an all around truck to anything that indexes in a specific area, but I get why people do have strong preferences. There aren't really "bad" trucks anymore it's just a matter of trade-offs and what you like. I have a buddy that loves Ventures on transition and he's an incredible mini ramp skater and it makes no sense to me. Another friend is the most "tech" of anyone I skate with and mostly skates park ledges and prefers Ace.

I think the less we try to make sense of dimensions and features and the more we trust how we feel on something and enjoy it the better. Truck marketing is always terribly corny and in my experience optimizing my setup never really led to anything dramatically game changing.

I will say I fucking love the Ace anodization. Their skate tool is also the best I have used.

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #7601 on: April 16, 2026, 12:15:42 AM »

Thanks you all for all those answers! As switchBenihana said I feel that the quality of products improved a lot in recent years. I ride my trucks stock and I know how easy is it to fall into a madness with trucks. Hope you all keep enjoying your aces, and I will report back if one day I try those Aces!

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #7602 on: April 19, 2026, 02:27:38 PM »


From Facebook, someone managed to rip out their inverted kingpin somehow

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #7603 on: April 20, 2026, 07:10:38 AM »
Happened to my buddy as well. Came really loose during the sesh and hung up on a disaster he didn't pull in correctly. It's being warrantied.

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #7604 on: April 20, 2026, 07:13:40 AM »
Wow those AF1 Inverted are very expensive... $125 Canadian idk if i am actually gonna pull the trigger on those. For reference Indy, Venture, T1 are $70 and T2s are $84. They are cool but maybe not enough of an improvement for me to justify, especially with how rough I am on my trucks.

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #7605 on: April 20, 2026, 08:13:30 AM »
Eh eh, always found these kinda suspicious since they were introduced, but Im also sceptical about every IKP.

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #7606 on: April 20, 2026, 11:01:49 AM »
I have IKP’s on two setups in 55 & 60 since they released and I’ve had no other issues besides top bushings getting beat up on one of the sets. Crazy this happened but it seems like a freaky malfunction and not something to be on alert about.

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #7607 on: April 20, 2026, 11:20:30 AM »
Every truck has defects at times, it's definitely a freak occurrence it seems.

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #7608 on: April 27, 2026, 11:18:33 PM »
Has anybody tried putting indy hangers on the ace ikp baseplate? Does it work? If so whats it like

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #7609 on: April 28, 2026, 04:50:47 AM »
Ya Slap is mostly selection/survivor bias so people are more likely to over report (my case) or under report their experiences. It is probably shameful to admit that I skate best on Indy's and just prefer an all around truck to anything that indexes in a specific area, but I get why people do have strong preferences. There aren't really "bad" trucks anymore it's just a matter of trade-offs and what you like. I have a buddy that loves Ventures on transition and he's an incredible mini ramp skater and it makes no sense to me. Another friend is the most "tech" of anyone I skate with and mostly skates park ledges and prefers Ace.

I think the less we try to make sense of dimensions and features and the more we trust how we feel on something and enjoy it the better. Truck marketing is always terribly corny and in my experience optimizing my setup never really led to anything dramatically game changing.

I will say I fucking love the Ace anodization. Their skate tool is also the best I have used.

Well said/written. I too like Venture on transition, more so now with V8 plates set in.

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #7610 on: May 01, 2026, 03:10:15 AM »
Wanna try some aces. The gold AF1s are £15 cheaper though. Are gold trucks a faux pas?

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #7611 on: May 01, 2026, 01:20:38 PM »
Gold trucks are not for everyone, but some people like da bling...


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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #7612 on: May 01, 2026, 04:27:57 PM »
Not a fan or colored trucks but I loved anodized indy stage 5s in all their colors. Ace have done some anodized baseplates....

as for your gold hangers... they'll be fine once you start destroying them.

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #7613 on: May 01, 2026, 05:49:19 PM »
Wanna try some aces. The gold AF1s are £15 cheaper though. Are gold trucks a faux pas?

If they’re anodized east off oven cleaner will remove it(pretty sure the yellow can), not good for the environment though.

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #7614 on: May 01, 2026, 06:05:37 PM »
I love the gold aces. They’re not too gaudy. Just slightly muted so they don’t blind anyone who looks at them in the sunlight. Wish they made them in hollows.

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #7615 on: May 02, 2026, 01:23:02 PM »
I would be nothing if it wasn’t for #acetrucks
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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #7616 on: May 02, 2026, 04:37:36 PM »
I've now broken 3 sets of inverted trucks. When the hell are they going to fix the kingpin? Wonder if the Thunder inverted will have the same issue.

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #7617 on: May 02, 2026, 05:39:49 PM »
I've now broken 3 sets of inverted trucks. When the hell are they going to fix the kingpin? Wonder if the Thunder inverted will have the same issue.

Been running two sets for over a year and haven’t had any issues with the KP at all. Haven’t heard of any widespread issues either. Might just be you, man.

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #7618 on: May 02, 2026, 08:39:31 PM »
I was just going to chime in to say how much I love my IKP Ace now they are broken in and dialed in.

Apparently Thunder are going to use the same system as Ace so if you're not having luck with the Ace system you might not dig...

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Re: Ace trucks
« Reply #7619 on: May 03, 2026, 04:35:04 AM »
I've now broken 3 sets of inverted trucks. When the hell are they going to fix the kingpin? Wonder if the Thunder inverted will have the same issue.

Been running two sets for over a year and haven’t had any issues with the KP at all. Haven’t heard of any widespread issues either. Might just be you, man.


A guy I know breaks any kingpins - hollow regular, hollow inverted, even a solid inverted the other day.  Everyone else seems to have them hold up fine for the life of the trucks, or at least until they are worn down enough that people change them out.

Some other people have broken Slappy kingpins, Ace kingpins and Thunder kingpins on the inverted trucks, so it could definitely be more so the individual, over the product for the most part.

Usually a warranty will cover product for a certain period of time or certain period of wear, so if they are lasting well into the couple of months with solid wear, that is fairly common.

How and where have they broken for you?

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