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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3450 on: May 11, 2021, 03:59:12 PM »
I thought that all modern wheels are multiple derometer by production default?
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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3451 on: May 11, 2021, 04:20:32 PM »
Love the feel of my 58s too. Still getting used to the new pop timing, but the height and speed feel great.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3452 on: May 11, 2021, 06:58:21 PM »
Love the feel of my 58s too. Still getting used to the new pop timing, but the height and speed feel great.

the 58mm 97a f4 conical fulls are the truth

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3453 on: May 11, 2021, 07:08:40 PM »


I just mashed around the neighborhood. Too dark to photograph afterwards but here's the before earlier.

It's so nice to be on a 99a 58mm wheel with a large contact patch again. I can flip it just fine but I've yet to try crooks sure I'll be all right. I put my swiss bearings in that are broke in so nicely. Three of my reds had locked up in the V2s. Massive difference

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3454 on: May 11, 2021, 07:13:56 PM »
I also love the 58 conical fulls. And they last forever, just keep getting better. I have a set I’ve been riding for years and even though it got demoted to second set they still feel perfect, even at 52mm


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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3455 on: May 11, 2021, 08:30:43 PM »
so i wear down wheels pretty quick

i went from ~45 - 40 in a month and my wheels feel softer and smoother on the surface (skating crust) there bones v5 stf 99a if that helps

any clue to why?, I'm guessing that the urethane inside is still yet to cure even though this set is like at least a year old by now.
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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3456 on: May 12, 2021, 06:51:29 AM »
I'm looking to get a set of the 97D F4's before I do could I just get confirmation on them not fucking with power slides or slide tricks? I alternate between the 99 and 101 depending on what i'm feeling at the time of purchase. I've been skating some crustier spots lately though and while I haven't had issues my 101 conical fulls i'm curious about the 97's. (I realize they've been talked about a bunch but was wondering if any of you guys had regrets with them)

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3457 on: May 12, 2021, 07:06:47 AM »
I'm looking to get a set of the 97D F4's before I do could I just get confirmation on them not fucking with power slides or slide tricks? I alternate between the 99 and 101 depending on what i'm feeling at the time of purchase. I've been skating some crustier spots lately though and while I haven't had issues my 101 conical fulls i'm curious about the 97's. (I realize they've been talked about a bunch but was wondering if any of you guys had regrets with them)
Spend most of my time on the 99s, no regrets with the 97s - they still break into slides without problem, they just don't slide AS far.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3458 on: May 12, 2021, 07:10:47 AM »
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I'm looking to get a set of the 97D F4's before I do could I just get confirmation on them not fucking with power slides or slide tricks? I alternate between the 99 and 101 depending on what i'm feeling at the time of purchase. I've been skating some crustier spots lately though and while I haven't had issues my 101 conical fulls i'm curious about the 97's. (I realize they've been talked about a bunch but was wondering if any of you guys had regrets with them)
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Spend most of my time on the 99s, no regrets with the 97s - they still break into slides without problem, they just don't slide AS far.

Damn, now I'm really excited to try my 97a Classics in 54mm. I wish they did a Radial Slim version.
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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3459 on: May 12, 2021, 07:47:02 AM »
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I'm looking to get a set of the 97D F4's before I do could I just get confirmation on them not fucking with power slides or slide tricks? I alternate between the 99 and 101 depending on what i'm feeling at the time of purchase. I've been skating some crustier spots lately though and while I haven't had issues my 101 conical fulls i'm curious about the 97's. (I realize they've been talked about a bunch but was wondering if any of you guys had regrets with them)
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Spend most of my time on the 99s, no regrets with the 97s - they still break into slides without problem, they just don't slide AS far.
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Damn, not I'm really excited to try my 97a Classics in 54mm. I wish they did a Radial Slim version.

You didn't expect them to slide as far/just like the 99s did you? I've been riding all three over the past month and got to say, anywhere I'd ride the 99s, the 97s do just fine. Sure they grip a bit more and like stated above you are going to slide, just not as far (unless you go faster ;).

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3460 on: May 12, 2021, 08:05:57 AM »
I'm looking to get a set of the 97D F4's before I do could I just get confirmation on them not fucking with power slides or slide tricks? I alternate between the 99 and 101 depending on what i'm feeling at the time of purchase. I've been skating some crustier spots lately though and while I haven't had issues my 101 conical fulls i'm curious about the 97's. (I realize they've been talked about a bunch but was wondering if any of you guys had regrets with them)

They slide fine for me for power slides and noseblunts. While they don’t slide as far as F4 99a, they slide better (more consistent slide and easier to break into and maintain the slide) than any other 99/101 wheel I’ve tried outside of F4 and STF’s.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3461 on: May 12, 2021, 09:39:37 AM »
Thanks for all the quick responses guys. I'm still a few weeks off setting up new wheels so I'll have to do some thinking but I'm leaning towards trying the 97's now

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3462 on: May 13, 2021, 11:09:06 AM »
Just put on my first F4s a few weeks ago (54mm conical fulls). Coming off a pair of softer 56mm OJ Keyframes, I'm super impressed. I can actually powerslide again and can't believe all the shit I can still roll over without getting tossed.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3463 on: May 13, 2021, 11:40:06 AM »
is it me or are the recent batches of 99’s stickier than usual?

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3464 on: May 13, 2021, 11:42:48 AM »
is it me or are the recent batches of 99’s stickier than usual?

I also felt that way on my 54mm classics a few weeks ago.
But after the 3rd session and a few powerslides everything felt as usual to me.
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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3465 on: May 13, 2021, 12:36:58 PM »


I just mashed around the neighborhood. Too dark to photograph afterwards but here's the before earlier.

It's so nice to be on a 99a 58mm wheel with a large contact patch again. I can flip it just fine but I've yet to try crooks sure I'll be all right. I put my swiss bearings in that are broke in so nicely. Three of my reds had locked up in the V2s. Massive difference

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3466 on: May 15, 2021, 07:12:56 PM »
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I don’t know if I’m trippin or not, but do the 97A’s seem like they get harder over time? I’ve been on the same set since they released the 97s (like 9 months ago) and they don’t feel as soft compared to when they were brand new. They kinda feel like 99s now when I skate down my street.
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I actually noticed this with the non-F4 OG Classics. I had a set (53mm/99a) that I bought last year and have noticed that they feel more like 101a's now. Even when trying to pull the bearings out, they felt a lot more stiff and resistant than when I first set them up.
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Urethane, or good urethane will harden over time, which is why I love older wheels, as they last longer and are much less likely to have issues the way brand new straight out of the packet wheels do sometimes.


It would be interesting to put on some new 99s and see if there was still a difference between those and the older 97s, or even any other older 99s if you still have them.


With regard to seating bearings, older wheels are a pain to get bearings in and out of, but a bit of lube or something rubbed round the inside of the wheel makes it a lot easier, or for getting bearings out, drip to the edge of the bearing and wheel join and pry at it a bit and it will usually come out a lot more easily.

Not a perfect test by any means, but I set up some 2 year old 60mm 99 F4 classics. Skated them back to back with some new-ish (2 months old) 55 tablets (same duro) on the same setup.

Older 99s (60 classics) feel harder. Also noticeably more difficult to slide. Shape plays a part perhaps, but it was interesting to try.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3467 on: May 16, 2021, 04:41:43 PM »
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I just mashed around the neighborhood. Too dark to photograph afterwards but here's the before earlier.

It's so nice to be on a 99a 58mm wheel with a large contact patch again. I can flip it just fine but I've yet to try crooks sure I'll be all right. I put my swiss bearings in that are broke in so nicely. Three of my reds had locked up in the V2s. Massive difference

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3468 on: May 17, 2021, 02:20:40 PM »
is it me or are the recent batches of 99’s stickier than usual?

My 99a classics felt fine (real rough shitty terrain smooth curbs); thinking about getting 99a tablets since there are no thin 97a F4s (and I want a thin wheel).

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3469 on: May 22, 2021, 12:50:04 PM »
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is it me or are the recent batches of 99’s stickier than usual?
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My 99a classics felt fine (real rough shitty terrain smooth curbs); thinking about getting 99a tablets since there are no thin 97a F4s (and I want a thin wheel).

Tablets might not be what you want. I wouldn't really classify them as "thin", at least not compared to like autobahn or crupie or satori or those kind of really skinny jawns. Tablets and classics are pretty close to the same width and unless you wear them waaayyyyy down the contact patch on the classics is probably a bit smaller. Reference photo - 53mm classic in hand, 53mm tablet on board.


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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3470 on: May 24, 2021, 07:25:07 PM »
Update after a few weeks of fully skating the 97a conicals: they’ve had a couple small chunks come out and one very minor flat spot. Definitely happened much faster to inflict that kind of damage than the various 99s that have previously been my main wheels. But they still slide really nicely and they still ride great over filth.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3471 on: May 24, 2021, 08:41:38 PM »
Update after a few weeks of fully skating the 97a conicals: they’ve had a couple small chunks come out and one very minor flat spot. Definitely happened much faster to inflict that kind of damage than the various 99s that have previously been my main wheels. But they still slide really nicely and they still ride great over filth.

Chiming in to say I’ve had a similar experience with little divots along the side walls from slappies that never happened with 99s. Still my favorite wheel I’ve had since this place dosed me with the madness a couple years ago. I’ll take the tiny gouges over slipping out on transition or vibrating my feet to numbness.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3472 on: May 27, 2021, 09:48:11 PM »
I have both a set of 97a 56mm classics and 97a 54mm conicals. I gotta say that I prefer the classics to the conicals, but one of the problems I think I'm having with the conicals is that they are newer and haven't had time to harden up like the classics, but I've recently found both to be just a bit too sticky and soft on days when it's warmer than about 20ºC.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3473 on: May 28, 2021, 06:28:57 AM »
https://www.instagram.com/p/CPYm2o_FCUS/

Hopefully this means a restock in non slim radials.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3474 on: May 28, 2021, 09:16:38 AM »
I have both a set of 97a 56mm classics and 97a 54mm conicals. I gotta say that I prefer the classics to the conicals, but one of the problems I think I'm having with the conicals is that they are newer and haven't had time to harden up like the classics, but I've recently found both to be just a bit too sticky and soft on days when it's warmer than about 20ºC.

Same with preferring the classics to conical. The classics seem to slide better and more consistently for me

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3475 on: May 28, 2021, 11:41:35 AM »
https://www.instagram.com/p/CPYm2o_FCUS/

Hopefully this means a restock in non slim radials.

I hope that too since I never had a chace to skate the regular radials. I would love to try those after all the conical shaped wheels I've skated for years.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3476 on: May 28, 2021, 06:06:01 PM »
I had those Kader radials last year I believe, hated them.
They just felt off.
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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3477 on: May 28, 2021, 07:56:17 PM »
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Hopefully this means a restock in non slim radials.
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I hope that too since I never had a chace to skate the regular radials. I would love to try those after all the conical shaped wheels I've skated for years.


They had some of the normal 52mm 99 duro Radials in the lastest drops to some stores but they were less common than some others, probably selling quickly.

https://www.spitfirewheels.com/


There are also the "Skate like a girl" series, all 99 duro Radial with blue 53mm, pink 54mm and white (natural) 56mm which are a bit more common, but if you are not into coloured wheels or don't want 56mm then you are stuck.

https://www.spitfirewheels.com/spring21/sf-sp21-dr1-d2-04.jpg


If you are into black wheels, then the other ones out in 99 are 52, 53 and 54mm "Trippy swirl" but again, maybe not your thing / limited market for black wheels.

https://www.spitfirewheels.com/spring21/04-sf-sp21-drop2-del1-trippy.jpg


I still have some 54mm regulars in both 99 and 101 and they are a good mix of classic and the wider profile, still slightly rounded edge even being worn down a mm or so but good surface area.

Wheels like the OG Classics have been a bit more common and preferred by pros / others who didn't quite want the Conical full but still wanted a wide surface but medium profile wheel, so they are a good one to try as well.


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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3478 on: May 28, 2021, 11:05:18 PM »
I had those Kader radials last year I believe, hated them.
They just felt off.

Would like to hear more about those. I usually ride 52-54mm wheels in 99 duro and conical fulls have treated me well. Radials seem to be exactly as wide but less contact surface.

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Re: Spitfire formula four
« Reply #3479 on: May 29, 2021, 05:55:06 AM »
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I had those Kader radials last year I believe, hated them.
They just felt off.
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Would like to hear more about those. I usually ride 52-54mm wheels in 99 duro and conical fulls have treated me well. Radials seem to be exactly as wide but less contact surface.
I guess radials kinda = classic full no?
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