Spitfire formula four

[sharkin]

It gets a lot more complicated when you figure wheels aren’t perfect, neither is the ground, forces are applied differently whether rolling or sliding, skating flat vs tranny, etc.

Get your BA in physics to give a textbook definition of sliding friction (all things controlled) but pump around a bowl on 52mm classics and 56mm conical fulls, and suddenly Mr. Walorski’s science seems flimsy.

[moonordie]

I back F4's but PLEASE make them white, so sick of them looking like potatoes

So get Bones kid.

[Roisto]

So you honestly don't think that wheel in an f4 would be grippier than classics, because physics?

Yes. So far I haven't come across anything that would suggest otherwise. No scientific proof nor do I find any difference in how classics and conical fulls slide. I know it's not intuitive. It is a massively common misconception that larger surface area (or wider wheels) has more grip but there just isn't any evidence to back it.

[Diocletian]

Spitfire classic formula is inferior and slightly grippier than formula fours, no doubt. They wear down faster, too. Gets the job done but it’s worth spending the extra $5-$10 for the F4.

[mynameisnotjeff]

Spitfire classic formula is inferior and slightly grippier than formula fours, no doubt. They wear down faster, too. Gets the job done but it’s worth spending the extra $5-$10 for the F4.

This is why we need a Manderson F4

[art hellman]

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Spitfire classic formula is inferior and slightly grippier than formula fours, no doubt. They wear down faster, too. Gets the job done but it’s worth spending the extra $5-$10 for the F4.

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This is why we need a Manderson F4

get conical fulls in 53mm

[ClownOfTheDay]

I still like the classics, even though they feel kinda slow. Had a pair of orange conical full classics this summer, liked them til they got super coned.

[authentic_creed_bratton]

gotta rotate your tires

[ClownOfTheDay]

gotta rotate your tires

Yeah need to rotate my F4's soon, my conicals are getting coned.

[spacial_profiling]

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Spitfire classic formula is inferior and slightly grippier than formula fours, no doubt. They wear down faster, too. Gets the job done but it’s worth spending the extra $5-$10 for the F4.

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This is why we need a Manderson F4

Couldn't agree more!

[Big Baby Jesus]

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Spitfire classic formula is inferior and slightly grippier than formula fours, no doubt. They wear down faster, too. Gets the job done but it’s worth spending the extra $5-$10 for the F4.

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This is why we need a Manderson F4

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Couldn't agree more!

[handsclapanin]

I heard a really shitty rumor this weekend. Supposedly, the guy who owns the F4 formula and factory where they are made is calling it quits with skateboard wheels and moving on. And taking his secret formula with him. My local is getting a shipment of F4's this week and then that's it. No more. It seems almost unbelievable that Spitfire would not pay whatever the cost to keep making these wonderful wheels. But that's what I heard. Really hoping this is untrue. But to be safe, I  just ordered 8 sets online this morning.
I was a bit of a late comer to the F4 hype. I got my first set maybe 4 or 5 years ago. But fell in love instantly. They honestly changed skating for me and made it more fun, if that's possible. They are that good and better than any other wheel. I've been skating for 35 years; and not since the advent of boards growing noses has something changed skating so much and in such a good way as F4s, imo.
Hopefully LennyDLXSF can get on here and dispell this nasty rumor. Please...

[arrbee]

Worst case scenario I'll go back to classics. Hopefully they'll make all the shapes in those.

[thebacker]

I heard a really shitty rumor this weekend. Supposedly, the guy who owns the F4 formula and factory where they are made is calling it quits with skateboard wheels and moving on. And taking his secret formula with him. My local is getting a shipment of F4's this week and then that's it. No more. It seems almost unbelievable that Spitfire would not pay whatever the cost to keep making these wonderful wheels. But that's what I heard. Really hoping this is untrue. But to be safe, I  just ordered 8 sets online this morning.
I was a bit of a late comer to the F4 hype. I got my first set maybe 4 or 5 years ago. But fell in love instantly. They honestly changed skating for me and made it more fun, if that's possible. They are that good and better than any other wheel. I've been skating for 35 years; and not since the advent of boards growing noses has something changed skating so much and in such a good way as F4s, imo.
Hopefully LennyDLXSF can get on here and dispsell this nasty rumor. Please...

you shut your whore mouth

[HyenaChaser]

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I heard a really shitty rumor this weekend. Supposedly, the guy who owns the F4 formula and factory where they are made is calling it quits with skateboard wheels and moving on. And taking his secret formula with him. My local is getting a shipment of F4's this week and then that's it. No more. It seems almost unbelievable that Spitfire would not pay whatever the cost to keep making these wonderful wheels. But that's what I heard. Really hoping this is untrue. But to be safe, I  just ordered 8 sets online this morning.
I was a bit of a late comer to the F4 hype. I got my first set maybe 4 or 5 years ago. But fell in love instantly. They honestly changed skating for me and made it more fun, if that's possible. They are that good and better than any other wheel. I've been skating for 35 years; and not since the advent of boards growing noses has something changed skating so much and in such a good way as F4s, imo.
Hopefully LennyDLXSF can get on here and dispsell this nasty rumor. Please...

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you shut your whore mouth

SERIOUSLY. Don’t tell me F4s are done, this is like hearing your girl say “I think we should take a break” meaning an inevitable break up is gonna happen. C’mon babe, we can work it out.

[weedgod94]

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So you honestly don't think that wheel in an f4 would be grippier than classics, because physics?

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Yes. So far I haven't come across anything that would suggest otherwise. No scientific proof nor do I find any difference in how classics and conical fulls slide. I know it's not intuitive. It is a massively common misconception that larger surface area (or wider wheels) has more grip but there just isn't any evidence to back it.

I'm guessing most of the difference in grip comes from the lip shape. So a classic with that huge bevel is obviously gonna grip less than like a tablet.

[In A Jar]

Crazy.  I had been wondering why on earth Spitfire has been pushing their Classic Formula lately.  Maybe they knew about this ahead of time. 

[arrbee]

And to think they wasted so much of the last of the F4 formula on colored wheels.

[Fred Gerwer Frank Gall]

I heard a really shitty rumor this weekend. Supposedly, the guy who owns the F4 formula and factory where they are made is calling it quits with skateboard wheels and moving on. And taking his secret formula with him. My local is getting a shipment of F4's this week and then that's it. No more. It seems almost unbelievable that Spitfire would not pay whatever the cost to keep making these wonderful wheels. But that's what I heard. Really hoping this is untrue. But to be safe, I  just ordered 8 sets online this morning.
I was a bit of a late comer to the F4 hype. I got my first set maybe 4 or 5 years ago. But fell in love instantly. They honestly changed skating for me and made it more fun, if that's possible. They are that good and better than any other wheel. I've been skating for 35 years; and not since the advent of boards growing noses has something changed skating so much and in such a good way as F4s, imo.
Hopefully LennyDLXSF can get on here and dispsell this nasty rumor. Please...

This better be some kind of sick and twisted joke...

That being said, I'm sure I got some Made in Mexico F4s awhile back? And doesn't that dude you speak of have his own wheel company also?

But yes, also noticing an increased push with the Classic formula... hmmm....

[arrbee]

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I heard a really shitty rumor this weekend. Supposedly, the guy who owns the F4 formula and factory where they are made is calling it quits with skateboard wheels and moving on. And taking his secret formula with him. My local is getting a shipment of F4's this week and then that's it. No more. It seems almost unbelievable that Spitfire would not pay whatever the cost to keep making these wonderful wheels. But that's what I heard. Really hoping this is untrue. But to be safe, I  just ordered 8 sets online this morning.
I was a bit of a late comer to the F4 hype. I got my first set maybe 4 or 5 years ago. But fell in love instantly. They honestly changed skating for me and made it more fun, if that's possible. They are that good and better than any other wheel. I've been skating for 35 years; and not since the advent of boards growing noses has something changed skating so much and in such a good way as F4s, imo.
Hopefully LennyDLXSF can get on here and dispsell this nasty rumor. Please...

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This better be some kind of sick and twisted joke...

That being said, I'm sure I got some Made in Mexico F4s awhile back? And doesn't that dude you speak of have his own wheel company also?

But yes, also noticing an increased push with the Classic formula... hmmm....

What is this other wheel company you speak of?

[Mesteezo]

Spitfire realised they fucked up making F4s so durable so now they're forcing everybody to go back to flatspot city classics knowing that skaters will go through classics faster than f4s.


I don't wanna go back.

[thebacker]

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I heard a really shitty rumor this weekend. Supposedly, the guy who owns the F4 formula and factory where they are made is calling it quits with skateboard wheels and moving on. And taking his secret formula with him. My local is getting a shipment of F4's this week and then that's it. No more. It seems almost unbelievable that Spitfire would not pay whatever the cost to keep making these wonderful wheels. But that's what I heard. Really hoping this is untrue. But to be safe, I  just ordered 8 sets online this morning.
I was a bit of a late comer to the F4 hype. I got my first set maybe 4 or 5 years ago. But fell in love instantly. They honestly changed skating for me and made it more fun, if that's possible. They are that good and better than any other wheel. I've been skating for 35 years; and not since the advent of boards growing noses has something changed skating so much and in such a good way as F4s, imo.
Hopefully LennyDLXSF can get on here and dispsell this nasty rumor. Please...

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This better be some kind of sick and twisted joke...

That being said, I'm sure I got some Made in Mexico F4s awhile back? And doesn't that dude you speak of have his own wheel company also?

But yes, also noticing an increased push with the Classic formula... hmmm....

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What is this other wheel company you speak of?

loophole wheels

[GoneWithTheSchwinn]

Lenny of DLX 

[baggy spandex]

I heard a really shitty rumor this weekend. Supposedly, the guy who owns the F4 formula and factory where they are made is calling it quits with skateboard wheels and moving on. And taking his secret formula with him. My local is getting a shipment of F4's this week and then that's it. No more. It seems almost unbelievable that Spitfire would not pay whatever the cost to keep making these wonderful wheels. But that's what I heard. Really hoping this is untrue. But to be safe, I  just ordered 8 sets online this morning.
I was a bit of a late comer to the F4 hype. I got my first set maybe 4 or 5 years ago. But fell in love instantly. They honestly changed skating for me and made it more fun, if that's possible. They are that good and better than any other wheel. I've been skating for 35 years; and not since the advent of boards growing noses has something changed skating so much and in such a good way as F4s, imo.
Hopefully LennyDLXSF can get on here and dispsell this nasty rumor. Please...

I heard the same rumor a couple weeks ago. My local was completely out of ALL spitfire at the time and they said to snatch up F4 wherever you can find them. Then another local was fully restocked the following week. I’m still hoping it’s just a rumor.

[ClownOfTheDay]

I wouldn't mind skating the classics if they made them in more shapes, I like square wheels. Unfortunately I live in rural Iowa so my main go to is tactics and they've been low of F4's. If anyone from deluxe is reading this make conical fulls in classic formula and you'll have me.

[ClownOfTheDay]

* Formula 5 drops *

[Roisto]

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So you honestly don't think that wheel in an f4 would be grippier than classics, because physics?

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Yes. So far I haven't come across anything that would suggest otherwise. No scientific proof nor do I find any difference in how classics and conical fulls slide. I know it's not intuitive. It is a massively common misconception that larger surface area (or wider wheels) has more grip but there just isn't any evidence to back it.

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I'm guessing most of the difference in grip comes from the lip shape. So a classic with that huge bevel is obviously gonna grip less than like a tablet.

Never had the tablets so can't say much about them but a completely straight lip might dig into rough ground for sure. Can't really see that happening with conicals or classics though as there's still quite a bevel there if you think of sliding with them. Maybe the classic shape would slide better over a considerably raised seam than the conicals. 🤔

[Fred Gerwer Frank Gall]

I wouldn't mind skating the classics if they made them in more shapes, I like square wheels. Unfortunately I live in rural Iowa so my main go to is tactics and they've been low of F4's. If anyone from deluxe is reading this make conical fulls in classic formula and you'll have me.

The OG classic shape is pretty wide and square. I have to say the Classic Formula has improved but its not as good or durable as the F4....

Lenny?!?!

[ClownOfTheDay]

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I wouldn't mind skating the classics if they made them in more shapes, I like square wheels. Unfortunately I live in rural Iowa so my main go to is tactics and they've been low of F4's. If anyone from deluxe is reading this make conical fulls in classic formula and you'll have me.

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The OG classic shape is pretty wide and square. I have to say the Classic Formula has improved but its not as good or durable as the F4....

Lenny?!?!

honestly as long as there is spitfire wheels in this world I'll be ok. I can't see myself skating a bones wheel.

[johnes]

I love F4s but if they stopped being made I would have no problem switching to bones.