Spitfire formula four

[Esmith5488]

I’m kinda interested in those 97a’s. I’m setting up a bigger board that I haven’t decided it’s purpose and I am putting some 92a clouds on it. Would be nice to have a f4 to put on it

[Banned from the room]

I like hard and skinny.

[chipped tail]

Any info on when the 97s will hit the shops?

by the way deluxe is operating right now, you'll probably be able to order it from cowtown or tactics 4-6 weeks before your local gets it.

[Juanjo789]

Im getting 60mm f4 classics tomorrow, anybody here liked them? should i get 58s?

[Crabby_Bastard]

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Any info on when the 97s will hit the shops?

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by the way deluxe is operating right now, you'll probably be able to order it from cowtown or tactics 4-6 weeks before your local gets it.

How exactly is it that they are operating right now? Most of my local shops have been steadily getting more DLX product than any of the big online shops.

[cjt]

OK... at the local park my 51mm 99a F4s do not screech when sliding, and feel very slippery and unstable when tight carving. My bones 56mm 84b SPF do screech when sliding, and feel extremely locked and have literally never slipped as far as I can remember.

Is there an F4 that will screech when I slide and not slip when im carving fast and tight? Is it just a matter of the riding surface size? I clearly just don't understand wheel durometer/formulas.

[Mesteezo]

OK... at the local park my 51mm 99a F4s do not screech when sliding, and feel very slippery and unstable when tight carving. My bones 56mm 84b SPF do screech when sliding, and feel extremely locked and have literally never slipped as far as I can remember.

Is there an F4 that will screech when I slide and not slip when im carving fast and tight? Is it just a matter of the riding surface size? I clearly just don't understand wheel durometer/formulas.

Screeches depend on the surface, and your park is probably better suited for the SPFs (probably a smooth concrete, newish park?) Either adjust your lines so you don’t slip out on F4s or try new urethane. If you like carving fast and tight while still keeping stability and not sliding out, try rain skates wheels in the yellow 98a or white 100a. They’re a smaller company but make sick wheels for bowl riders. I was also having this issue a couple years back.

[cjt]

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OK... at the local park my 51mm 99a F4s do not screech when sliding, and feel very slippery and unstable when tight carving. My bones 56mm 84b SPF do screech when sliding, and feel extremely locked and have literally never slipped as far as I can remember.

Is there an F4 that will screech when I slide and not slip when im carving fast and tight? Is it just a matter of the riding surface size? I clearly just don't understand wheel durometer/formulas.

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Screeches depend on the surface, and your park is probably better suited for the SPFs (probably a smooth concrete, newish park?) Either adjust your lines so you don’t slip out on F4s or try new urethane. If you like carving fast and tight while still keeping stability and not sliding out, try rain skates wheels in the yellow 98a or white 100a. They’re a smaller company but make sick wheels for bowl riders. I was also having this issue a couple years back.

It's actually a slightly older concrete park (built 1999), but tons of spraypaint/paint covering the spraypaint which may be causing the issue. It's definitely still slipping where there's no paint, though. The F4s feel awesome on street, so that's probably where i'll keep them. I will absolutely look into Rain Skates!!!!

I assumed the 99a F4 would "grip" everything at the park better vs. the 101-104 or whatever my SPF wheel is specifically. I definitely gotta blow that logic outta the pipes though cause it ain't workin!!!

[Mesteezo]

Oh dude it’s definitely the paint. I also slip out like crazy on spraypainted surfaces with F4s, with the SPFs slightly better but still slippy. Definitely look into those rainskates, when I was skating this one bowl a couple years back it had layers on layers of spray paint which made carving fast feel like skating on ice. Picked up some rainskates stingers and they stuck to the wall, no slip outs. I think they’re produced by creative urethane, but they’re a trip because they carve like a soft wheel despite being 100A, but they keep speed like a hard wheel and rolls with the same feeling like a hard wheel does

[Frank and Fred]

Im getting 60mm f4 classics tomorrow, anybody here liked them? should i get 58s?

The 60s are really wide. I have set that are now about 56 and look very  fat and coned. I much prefer the 58s. They just hold a better shape as they get smaller. The 60 F4 classics are still a great wheel and if you want width- go for it.

[Painted Baby]

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Im getting 60mm f4 classics tomorrow, anybody here liked them? should i get 58s?

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The 60s are really wide. I have set that are now about 56 and look very  fat and coned. I much prefer the 58s. They just hold a better shape as they get smaller. The 60 F4 classics are still a great wheel and if you want width- go for it.

Any chance those 60mms are classics and not F4s? The classic and F4 60mm are different shapes. I bought F4s 60s thinking they would be the wide guys but they were just big classics.

[Frank and Fred]

Mine are F4 formula classic shape.

[Banned from the room]

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Im getting 60mm f4 classics tomorrow, anybody here liked them? should i get 58s?

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The 60s are really wide. I have set that are now about 56 and look very  fat and coned. I much prefer the 58s. They just hold a better shape as they get smaller. The 60 F4 classics are still a great wheel and if you want width- go for it.

100. This is why I look for a 54-58.

[cjt]

Oh dude it’s definitely the paint. I also slip out like crazy on spraypainted surfaces with F4s, with the SPFs slightly better but still slippy. Definitely look into those rainskates, when I was skating this one bowl a couple years back it had layers on layers of spray paint which made carving fast feel like skating on ice. Picked up some rainskates stingers and they stuck to the wall, no slip outs. I think they’re produced by creative urethane, but they’re a trip because they carve like a soft wheel despite being 100A, but they keep speed like a hard wheel and rolls with the same feeling like a hard wheel does

bless u for the insight!!!

[Kaiser Ben]

I'm looking for my first set of F4's. What's a good shape for a balance of hills and slappies? I though about classics because of slappies and powerslides, but probably not the best shape for control with speed down hills.

[YungJugg]

I'm looking for my first set of F4's. What's a good shape for a balance of hills and slappies? I though about classics because of slappies and powerslides, but probably not the best shape for control with speed down hills.

Conical fulls or lock-ins.

[tzhangdox]

I'm looking for my first set of F4's. What's a good shape for a balance of hills and slappies? I though about classics because of slappies and powerslides, but probably not the best shape for control with speed down hills.

conicals, conical fulls or radials

[moonordie]

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I'm looking for my first set of F4's. What's a good shape for a balance of hills and slappies? I though about classics because of slappies and powerslides, but probably not the best shape for control with speed down hills.

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Conical fulls or lock-ins.

+1 for conical fulls

[Kaiser Ben]

Looking like 54mm 99a conical fulls for slappies and hill bombing. Do they still power slide pretty easily being that big?

[gsosa]

I'd say tablets, they have almost the same riding surface as the conical full but have a slimmer profile. I'm riding them right now and they are dopeeeee. I bomb a lot of hills and are fucking choice for this, way better than the Classics (also f4) I had before.

[Kaiser Ben]

I'd say tablets, they have almost the same riding surface as the conical full but have a slimmer profile. I'm riding them right now and they are dopeeeee. I bomb a lot of hills and are fucking choice for this, way better than the Classics (also f4) I had before.

I just heard that the straight profile makes it harder to slappy vs wheels with a rounded profile. Those were my first choice actually until I found out about the rounded profile for slappies thing.

[moonordie]

The answer always is: F4 conical fulls 53mm 99

[YungJugg]

Looking like 54mm 99a conical fulls for slappies and hill bombing. Do they still power slide pretty easily being that big?

Yes, that’s not really even big. Don’t overthink shit and you’ll be fine. They are the best wheels for the job. Lately for hills I’ve been running 58mm 97a Slimeballs and they slide very easily, and they’re both wider and softer than C-Fulls.

Contrary to what people on here may say, any wheel can slide. Even 78a 60mm Super Juice can get icy.

[Kaiser Ben]

I ended up going to the shop and getting 54mm 99a Conical Fulls today. I just hit some mild hills and some curbs after and man... people aren't lying when they say the F4's feel like the last wheels they will ever ride. Even on the mild hills I was getting some hair blowing in the wind speed. Gonna try to hit some parking garages soon. These are gonna be fun. For anyone worrying about them being big like I did, don't. They look so much bigger in pictures and comparisons (obviously), but as soon as I saw them and held them in person, they definitely aren't THAT big. Just go get 'em.

Don’t overthink shit and you’ll be fine.

Well said.

[FrenchFriedClownFingers]

so i finally set up the tablets and holy shit man, it's crazy. my new favorite wheel. like i normally have this issue with the board not going straight when i do tricks but its like these wheels are showing me my posture for skating was all fucked up due to my madness of having to skate tiny wheels. i was always fighting for balance and knew something felt off but i thought it was trucks or this cervical spinal shit i have.

i was skating bones v3s for the last 10 years but switched to these boardcakes bundts which rule but are not ideal for street skating. they are really good wheels though, i highly recommend boardycakes.

i notice the tablets slide better as well and it even has a better sound. i was so worried for months about my skating being affected but i never thought that it might be just what i needed. im finally starting to get where i wanna be. thank you spitfire, i knew i had a very good feeling about these wheels.

[Frank and Fred]

Tablets are great. I like the 55mm ones. Lock in so good on curbs and coping.

[FrozenIndustries]

I remember at one point people posting about tablets/wheels with a hard edge making it harder to slappy and it kind of put me from trying them...which is a shame because I feel like they actually made slappies easier with the way they lock in.

[Noble Experiment]

Was on 99a F4s for the past six months or so; just put on a set of STF v3s and man am I having F4 withdrawals. STFs are good wheels too and I usually switch between F4s and STFs but there was just something about that last set of F4s that just felt way too good; the STFs just don’t feel right now by comparison.

[Lukabrazi]

Was on 99a F4s for the past six months or so; just put on a set of STF v3s and man am I having F4 withdrawals. STFs are good wheels too and I usually switch between F4s and STFs but there was just something about that last set of F4s that just felt way too good; the STFs just don’t feel right now by comparison.

STF feels like plastic trash after riding some F4 imo

[handsclapanin]

I remember at one point people posting about tablets/wheels with a hard edge making it harder to slappy and it kind of put me from trying them...which is a shame because I feel like they actually made slappies easier with the way they lock in.

Nice to know. Tablets are the only F4 shape I've yet to try.