Spitfire formula four

[Mbrimson88]

Yeah these are both OG classic shape
 formula four, not to be confused with OG Classic classic OG formula 
Theres a 1.5mm difference in contact width, wouldn’t think that’s much at all but on the same ramp it was the difference between ice rink slams and complete grippy confidence

The size wouldn't make much difference at all, but as you said the feel of them is key.

I have experienced that a lot more with 101s with some being super slick and slippery and others being even more grippy than the 99s, but to me the normal 99s have always been the same feel.  That is not to say that something happened and they are mixed compounds or something else going on (like surface slickness on the slippery wheels) but at least if you found some that did work, then that is all that matters.

The newer 97s I have used on wood, skatelite and other surfaces were pretty good, but I could feel them being slightly slower at the same time, when compared to my other 99s, otherwise I would say try some of those.  I still like them anyway, as do other people for more slippery ramps or for rough ground, so there will always be a place for my usual 99s as well as the other softer wheels on boards I have set up as regular riders.

[zozu]

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I tried some Hazard wheels last year. They felt harder and more slippery than 101 Spitfires but the quality was good.
Rolled pretty fast and didnt flatspot, though still felt like a second rate wheel despite costing me almost as much as a set of spits.

I would buy them again in a pinch, a positive is they consistently seem to be making black wheels which are usually uncommon.

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Did they feel like Creative urethane? I can't stand creative pours.

Nah they werent that bad..  But like I said still felt like a second rate wheel and probably not worth the cost.

[gsosa]

Dear Spitfire (I know there are some DLX heads in dis bitch), please make more colored wheel options in a non-classic shape! Ive been riding my Conical Bouls flatspotted for like 4 months because they weren't that bad, they weren't cheap and it's hella hard to get a shape that's not a classic in a colored option. I know there's a black Ishod wheel but black wheels look gross.  So please pretty please guys take note of this for the upcoming seasons!

I did end up buying some OG Classic F4s but I feel like my whip is not the same without colored wheels haha

[Boog]

Dear Spitfire (I know there are some DLX heads in dis bitch), please make more colored wheel options in a non-classic shape! Ive been riding my Conical Bouls flatspotted for like 4 months because they weren't that bad, they weren't cheap and it's hella hard to get a shape that's not a classic in a colored option. I know there's a black Ishod wheel but black wheels look gross.  So please pretty please guys take note of this for the upcoming seasons!

I did end up buying some OG Classic F4s but I feel like my whip is not the same without colored wheels haha

Would you ride an orange conical?

[Frank and Fred]

Orange is the next best wheel color after potato brown.

Classic Fulls in Orange please.

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Dear Spitfire (I know there are some DLX heads in dis bitch), please make more colored wheel options in a non-classic shape! Ive been riding my Conical Bouls flatspotted for like 4 months because they weren't that bad, they weren't cheap and it's hella hard to get a shape that's not a classic in a colored option. I know there's a black Ishod wheel but black wheels look gross.  So please pretty please guys take note of this for the upcoming seasons!

I did end up buying some OG Classic F4s but I feel like my whip is not the same without colored wheels haha

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Would you ride an orange conical?

I hella would

[Slugboi22]

i’m very partial to light blue wheels. Loved my skate like a girl radials. never understood the color wheel hate.

[braksabbath]

I want single color wheel ala Lance/Grosso to come back. Could do rit dye but old posts here said it doesn’t last long.

[Mbrimson88]

I want single color wheel ala Lance/Grosso to come back. Could do rit dye but old posts here said it doesn’t last long.

It's a funny one, cause they always sell out and people keep wanting more of them, but they seem like things are almost being cut back in terms of production or anything different of late.

Some people often buy their own and mix and match, given most wheels come out in the same size and shape, with coloured options occasionally, so that one set of coloured wheels from last season or so could easily be put with three other normal sets to make a lasting single coloured wheel set last a while.

What size and shape are you most interested in?

[Mbrimson88]

The Spitfire Summer 2022 catalog is up with the most interesting offering (as previously mentioned by others) being this wheel:


https://www.spitfirewheels.com/


https://www.spitfirewheels.com/summer22/sf-sm22-jeff-carlyle-cat-2.jpg

[BartHarleyJarvis]

Damn. No radials and no conicals…. Wtf

[iw0]

The Spitfire Summer 2022 catalog is up with the most interesting offering (as previously mentioned by others) being this wheel:

YEAH BABY GLOW IN THE DARK!

[FuzzGNU]

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The Spitfire Summer 2022 catalog is up with the most interesting offering (as previously mentioned by others) being this wheel:

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YEAH BABY GLOW IN THE DARK!

Man, the 90s really are back.

I could see those being useful for night skating if they actually work.

I remember having some hardware with glow in the dark paint and it really didn't work very well. Great idea though.

Is there a consumer level glow in the dark paint we could put on our grip tape?

[Plan9Customs]

Looks like I’m getting some new wheels. Yes the glow in the dark wheels actually work. Those are what I was running on my cruiser(when they made them in the 80hd). Love me some gimmicky wheels that look normal. As for glow in the dark spray paint there’s some but from what I’ve heard it’s kind of hit and miss on actually working.

[fakiefs180]

53mm Lock-ins

Hell yesss

[theloniousmonk]

I have some glow in the dark rails from tgm, and they glow better than I would expect. They were noticeably glowy even when it was still daytime and they were in a shadow. Pretty cool

[Mbrimson88]

Damn. No radials and no conicals…. Wtf

They were both in the last catalog and should still be in some shops.

I would say though that it seems what comes out each month in the catalog is not all the wheels they produce, maybe more just a showing of some of the new options, as many of the "old favourites" are still making their way out to lots of shops, as I have seen from Instagram posts of new stock drops.  There doesn't seem to be any way to know what else is coming out when or where, apart from what the shops get as their pre book catalog info.

Given not all sizes, shapes and duros are out all the time, it would be best if you do find a wheel you like to get a few sets.

[Bror]

Im sorry for asking this, i know its been discussed x amounts of times already but i really cant decide between Radials, reg. conicals and og classics..

Ive been on two pairs of 53mm conical fulls before but want to shave off a little weight as i like to ride 55-57mm for longevity.

Is conicals the in between shape of the three?

[Murge]

Im sorry for asking this, i know its been discussed x amounts of times already but i really cant decide between Radials, reg. conicals and og classics..

Ive been on two pairs of 53mm conical fulls before but want to shave off a little weight as i like to ride 55-57mm for longevity.

Is conicals the in between shape of the three?

I haven’t had the OG classics but I have been eyeing them. I have had radials and I enjoyed them but I’m on regular conicals now and I think I prefer them over the radials.

[BartHarleyJarvis]

Im sorry for asking this, i know its been discussed x amounts of times already but i really cant decide between Radials, reg. conicals and og classics..

Ive been on two pairs of 53mm conical fulls before but want to shave off a little weight as i like to ride 55-57mm for longevity.

Is conicals the in between shape of the three?

I haven’t had the og classics but I’m riding sets of conicals and radials right now. The conical is my preferred street/ledge wheel, you can usually get them in smaller sizes (52/53).

Radial is a good do it all wheel and they usually produce them in bigger sizes. I’ve got them on a huffer set up right now. It’s definitely the most in between shape in my opinion. Good surface riding area but a much rounder shoulder than conical

[beandemon]

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Im sorry for asking this, i know its been discussed x amounts of times already but i really cant decide between Radials, reg. conicals and og classics..

Ive been on two pairs of 53mm conical fulls before but want to shave off a little weight as i like to ride 55-57mm for longevity.

Is conicals the in between shape of the three?

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I haven’t had the OG classics but I have been eyeing them. I have had radials and I enjoyed them but I’m on regular conicals now and I think I prefer them over the radials.

Pouring over the spitfire shape charts, the OG classic is basically like a regular conical with a lil’ wider contact patch. Like you started with a 56mm conical and rode it to 55mm, it would be really close to a fresh 55mm OG classic. Radials are actually close to CF’s in width with a slightly narrower contact area. So, based on the numbers, I would say regular conical would save the most weight, OG would last the longest. Radials would be a lateral move from CFs.

Ive been riding 58mm OG classics in classic formula all spring and like them enough I’ve considered the same wheel in formula four to see if it does less of everything and more of everything, only better.

[fakiefs180]

Regular conicals have a tiny bit more rounded sidewalls as OG classics in the same size.

I am on some 52mm conicals and really like them.

[braksabbath]

OG classic is my fav bowl wheel ever now. Slammed so hard on Radials when they rolled over the coping onto the deck. I did a couple parking lot slappies and they (radials) roll up on curbs good. Those 55mm Oski Radials are for sale, only skated one day

[beandemon]

OG classic is my fav bowl wheel ever now. Slammed so hard on Radials when they rolled over the coping onto the deck. I did a couple parking lot slappies and they roll up on curbs good. Those 55mm Oski Radials are for sale, only skated one day

Hah!  I’ve had the opposite experience with OG Classics. Skated a wooden bowl where the coping is inconsistent in terms of protrusion and how close the sheeting is. There a section where the coping sticks way out and there’s a pretty big gap between it and the top sheet. You can basically get stuck below the coping and it shoots your board away when you give it the umshalla to get on the coping. Like getting rejected on a layup.

[FuzzGNU]

I just got a pair of Conical Full 56mm to replace my defective Radial Full 56mm.

It's crazy how big both wheels are. Radial Fulls felt like monster truck wheels for better or for worse. I didn't realize the 56mm Conical Fulls would be almost as big.

The width leap from 54mm to 55mm is massive on Conical Fulls.

I like big wheels but Radial Fulls were definitely pushing it for me in the width department. Looks like these Conical Fulls will be more of the same.

It's actually really interesting comparing the CF 1:1 with Bones V6 56mm. Despite being the same width, the Bones have a deeper cut away and narrower riding surface. I measured them out of curiosity and the difference was the V6 were a full 10% lighter weight.

I really want to try some OG classics next. Looks like those have a deep cut away too.

[DERBY]

60mm tablet fulls would be so fucked

[Bumba]

Im sorry for asking this, i know its been discussed x amounts of times already but i really cant decide between Radials, reg. conicals and og classics..

Ive been on two pairs of 53mm conical fulls before but want to shave off a little weight as i like to ride 55-57mm for longevity.

Is conicals the in between shape of the three?

Radials have lasted way longer than f4 classics. Same feel and look to them but that wider riding patch helps a ton

[Painted Baby]

60mm F4 97s are hitting shops. I have been waiting for that exact wheel for so long now. My old dude nostalgia set-up can finally be completed. Shoutout to Jeff Carlyle for pushing for them to go 60

[Paco Supreme]

I’m “stuck” with a couple sets of classics. I haven’t ridden such a skinny wheel since the Manderson pro wheel shape came out.

It’s all in my head right and these will serve me just fine?

[Mbrimson88]

I’m “stuck” with a couple sets of classics. I haven’t ridden such a skinny wheel since the Manderson pro wheel shape came out.

It’s all in my head right and these will serve me just fine?

They sure do skate well.

Funny though cause I would always be down to swap for something else, but shipping just seems not worth it (even just here in AU) with sales like the OCD 30% off and Formula Four sets for AU $55 anyway.

What size do you have and what size and shape would you prefer, if you could swap them for something else?