Spitfire formula four

[Xen]

Radial slim on Tactics

https://www.tactics.com/spitfire/formula-four-radial-slim-skateboard-wheels/venomous-101d

Yoink.

[Gene_Harrogate]

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I couldn’t help but notice in the lower left of this insta post from spitfire, I see a Radial Slim package

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saw them on parade earlier too, maybe 5-6 listings?

My local posted a photo of a huge spitfire restock yesterday and probably a third of them were radial slims, so they’re definitely back.  All 101 though, not sure what the deal is with 99s.

[Mbrimson88]

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Yo I've got to get some new wheels,  been riding 56mm 99a conical fulls.

Really like them,  but downside is how bulky they feel trying flip tricks &  how much weight they add to my set up compared to mates' set ups.

I mainly skate bowls and ramps,  but want to get into more flip tricks and street stuff.

 Anyone got any recs that'd make it a bit lighter,  but without slipping out in a bowl /having to pump way harder?

Cheers!

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54mm Conical

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This, or OG Classics (assuming you want to stick to a conical shape). And maybe consider Titaniums if you Re riding Indys, they help a lot with making bigger setups feel lighter.

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Sweet cheers for the advice, can confirm that buying conicals are a nightmare (at least in UK).  Only found one shop that does 54s the rest are all conical fulls.

I skate Venture Lights 5.6 Hi,  been on ventures since a kid.  Maybe time for a change.

... is this how gear madness starts??

Even just a set of normal 54mm Conical Full wheels.

They are so much more manageable overall than the 56mm Conical Full wheels, especially if they are widely available to you where you are.

Quite a few people I know skate that size and shape as a tech wheel, a bowl wheel, as well as a good all rounder, so that would work for you too.

They look quite chunky at that size, almost Radial Full proportions?

Radials in 53mm are 33.5mm wide, so are about the same width as Conical Full in the 53mm and almost the same width as Classic Full wheels, but the fact that they are very square looking makes them look a lot more solid.

I had a set of Radials in 52mm once and they seemed like the most fun little wheel, but I like them a little more on the chunky side, so 54mm and even 56mm size were about right, of which I have had a few sets of each.

Damn, going to need to cop 2-3 sets...

You could get four sets and then match up four of each graphic.

Not that it would matter if the graphic comes off easily enough, but just a fun thought, as well as stocking up.




It is really quite smart marketing on the part of Spitfire and DLX, given lots of people want a white (natural) colour Radial in about 53mm and promoting someone like Leo Baker has never been as relevant as it is right now, so overall I am pretty stoked to see these wheels come out now.

Hopefully they have made a lot of them, because I can see a lot of people buying more than just one set too.

[iw0]

It is really quite smart marketing on the part of Spitfire and DLX, given lots of people want a white (natural) colour Radial in about 53mm and promoting someone like Leo Baker has never been as relevant as it is right now, so overall I am pretty stoked to see these wheels come out now.

this popped in my head as well when reading this thread the other day and seeing how many people are gonna buy multiple sets - while it is annoying not to have the shape you want in regular rotation, it does benefit sponsored riders to have their wheel release be on a shape that's not dropped as often but loved.

[Frank and Fred]

The Lacey wheels are apparently a very limited release and will just end up in a few shops.

[BartHarleyJarvis]

The Lacey wheels are apparently a very limited release and will just end up in a few shops.

Yeah they mentioned that in the post. I didn’t see any shops I recognized but there has to be some LA shops getting these

[caked]

https://glueskateboards.com/products/baker-limited-edition-spitfire-f4-wheels-54mm

limited edition black and blue set available on the glue website. think I have to get a set!

[iw0]

https://glueskateboards.com/products/baker-limited-edition-spitfire-f4-wheels-54mm

limited edition black and blue set available on the glue website. think I have to get a set!

whoa sick. there's also these blue classics that popped up
https://www.paradeworld.com/products/spitfire-formula-four-classics-leo-baker-skateboard-wheels-99a-54mm-1-7544613208320/

[Mbrimson88]

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https://glueskateboards.com/products/baker-limited-edition-spitfire-f4-wheels-54mm

limited edition black and blue set available on the glue website. think I have to get a set!

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whoa sick. there's also these blue classics that popped up
https://www.paradeworld.com/products/spitfire-formula-four-classics-leo-baker-skateboard-wheels-99a-54mm-1-7544613208320/

Sorry if I sound like "Mr Know it all" but I remember seeing those blue ones a while back when it was a big thing from "Lacey" on the previous set with roses graphic, to just "L" or "Leo" on the new promo with those wheels when they came out, so I am thinking they are just old stock still floating around.


The other new special editions with two black, two aqua Conical Full 54mm wheels are damn nice though, even if I am not into coloured wheels, but again the size, shape and those colours...

DLX (and Leo Baker) doing excellent things with the rad product.

[iw0]

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https://glueskateboards.com/products/baker-limited-edition-spitfire-f4-wheels-54mm

limited edition black and blue set available on the glue website. think I have to get a set!

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whoa sick. there's also these blue classics that popped up
https://www.paradeworld.com/products/spitfire-formula-four-classics-leo-baker-skateboard-wheels-99a-54mm-1-7544613208320/

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Sorry if I sound like "Mr Know it all" but I remember seeing those blue ones a while back when it was a big thing from "Lacey" on the previous set with roses graphic, to just "L" or "Leo" on the new promo with those wheels when they came out, so I am thinking they are just old stock still floating around.

makes sense to me!

[BartHarleyJarvis]

Went by my local to check for the Leo wheels, no luck. They did have a ton of Lock-ins in stock though, so Deluxe must be sending some out again.

[Mbrimson88]

Went by my local to check for the Leo wheels, no luck. They did have a ton of Lock-ins in stock though, so Deluxe must be sending some out again.

I think production is finally coming back up to where they can make a lot more shapes and sizes, without everyone screaming for the basics - Classics and Conical Full - when they were in shorter supply.


I also wonder how many normal skate shops will have access, or will be getting in those new wheels, but I know that some shops order at different times, or things take a little longer to get to some places too.

This was the text from that instagram post so these places definitely had them in from the look of that:


spitfirewheels
leo_baker’s new Pro Edition Formula Four 99DU 53MM Radials with individual art for each wheel are landing in shops all week. Here are a few shops where you can grab a set….

303boards
slappysgarage
modernskate
infinityskateshop
theblockop
crossroads_skateshop
switchandsignalskatepark

[Paco Supreme]

Skateworks have the Leo radials online, anchor skate shop too.

I think these will trickle out in conjunction with their Netflix doco

[rocklobster]

Seeing the Classics Full measurements again makes me wonder how relevant the 52 mm ones really are. Same width as 53 mm Classics, which will have a similar contact patch once worn down to 52 mm. I liked my Classics Full (passed them on) but am wondering if I should just go with 53 mm Classics when I am buying my next set of smaller wheels as they are much more widely available.

If you can deal with the size and shape to start with, they will definitely be easier to find and last a little longer, being that 1 mm bigger overall.

I have been skating some slightly used Classic 54mm wheels just to see how they add up compared to the Classic Full and I must say that they don't disappoint, that is for sure.  The ride is so similar, as are the current dimensions.
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53mm is a great shape and you really can't tell the difference from a 52mm side by side. But skaters are anal retentive about these things, either 52 / 54mm, making 53mm the red headed step child. Works out great since you can regularly find 53mm wheels on clearance.

[mvdbosch90]

Yesterday I switched from my 54mm Conical Fulls back to my worn Classics (originally 54mm to about 51-52mm now) and I really noticed how bulky the Conical Fulls felt. My pop and tricks felt better on the old Classics, but I definitely liked the wider contact patch of the Conical Fulls. I'm thinking about getting some Tablets in 52mm, since those have a bigger contact patch but are still quite light. I hear/read that they ride smooth without affecting tech/flip tricks much.
How are your experiences with those? And would you go for 99a or 101a?

[Slugboi22]

Yesterday I switched from my 54mm Conical Fulls back to my worn Classics (originally 54mm to about 51-52mm now) and I really noticed how bulky the Conical Fulls felt. My pop and tricks felt better on the old Classics, but I definitely liked the wider contact patch of the Conical Fulls. I'm thinking about getting some Tablets in 52mm, since those have a bigger contact patch but are still quite light. I hear/read that they ride smooth without affecting tech/flip tricks much.
How are your experiences with those? And would you go for 99a or 101a?

i had an overall pretty positive experience with tablets in 54mm 99a! liked em less than classic fulls and definitely less than radials but more than some other wheels i’ve had in the past. i’d say go for it, i
like the slide on em and the weight reduction is nice
edit: i’d also recommend radials to you if you can find em in a smaller size. i had the 53mm skate like a girl ones and those were my most favorite ones in recent memory

[mvdbosch90]

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Yesterday I switched from my 54mm Conical Fulls back to my worn Classics (originally 54mm to about 51-52mm now) and I really noticed how bulky the Conical Fulls felt. My pop and tricks felt better on the old Classics, but I definitely liked the wider contact patch of the Conical Fulls. I'm thinking about getting some Tablets in 52mm, since those have a bigger contact patch but are still quite light. I hear/read that they ride smooth without affecting tech/flip tricks much.
How are your experiences with those? And would you go for 99a or 101a?

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i had an overall pretty positive experience with tablets in 54mm 99a! liked em less than classic fulls and definitely less than radials but more than some other wheels i’ve had in the past. i’d say go for it, i
like the slide on em and the weight reduction is nice
edit: i’d also recommend radials to you if you can find em in a smaller size. i had the 53mm skate like a girl ones and those were my most favorite ones in recent memory

Yeah, those radials are hard to get unfortunately... And I'm also planning on get some wheels at my local shop
I'm also still considering the regular Conicals, if I get those in 52mm they're already a lot lighter than the 54mm conical fulls. I guess that rounded edge may help a bit with reverting and scooping as compared to the tablets?

[listentoaheartbeat]

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Seeing the Classics Full measurements again makes me wonder how relevant the 52 mm ones really are. Same width as 53 mm Classics, which will have a similar contact patch once worn down to 52 mm. I liked my Classics Full (passed them on) but am wondering if I should just go with 53 mm Classics when I am buying my next set of smaller wheels as they are much more widely available.

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If you can deal with the size and shape to start with, they will definitely be easier to find and last a little longer, being that 1 mm bigger overall.

I have been skating some slightly used Classic 54mm wheels just to see how they add up compared to the Classic Full and I must say that they don't disappoint, that is for sure.  The ride is so similar, as are the current dimensions.

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53mm is a great shape and you really can't tell the difference from a 52mm side by side. But skaters are anal retentive about these things, either 52 / 54mm, making 53mm the red headed step child. Works out great since you can regularly find 53mm wheels on clearance.

Yeah, my thinking is, I love 52 mm wheels when they are fresh. So buying 53 mm wheels will give me a bit more time around that sweet spot. And since I liked 52 mm Classic Fulls, I feel I won't mind the added width. More like an added bonus, actually.

[BartHarleyJarvis]

Yesterday I switched from my 54mm Conical Fulls back to my worn Classics (originally 54mm to about 51-52mm now) and I really noticed how bulky the Conical Fulls felt. My pop and tricks felt better on the old Classics, but I definitely liked the wider contact patch of the Conical Fulls. I'm thinking about getting some Tablets in 52mm, since those have a bigger contact patch but are still quite light. I hear/read that they ride smooth without affecting tech/flip tricks much.
How are your experiences with those? And would you go for 99a or 101a?

The tablet shapes really freak me out and they look so weird on boards. Interested to hear some feedback on them. I imagine they’d be great for locking in on grinds, but maybe not as good for scooped flip tricks with such a hard edge

[BALARGUE]

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Yesterday I switched from my 54mm Conical Fulls back to my worn Classics (originally 54mm to about 51-52mm now) and I really noticed how bulky the Conical Fulls felt. My pop and tricks felt better on the old Classics, but I definitely liked the wider contact patch of the Conical Fulls. I'm thinking about getting some Tablets in 52mm, since those have a bigger contact patch but are still quite light. I hear/read that they ride smooth without affecting tech/flip tricks much.
How are your experiences with those? And would you go for 99a or 101a?

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The tablet shapes really freak me out and they look so weird on boards. Interested to hear some feedback on them. I imagine they’d be great for locking in on grinds, but maybe not as good for scooped flip tricks with such a hard edge

that's the experience i had
you get used to it but crooked grinds lock differently than a rounder shape (because of the hard edge)

[brownjenkin]

I hope this is the start of regular width radials becoming more readily available. I got some radial slims a couple years ago and thought they'd be the perfect wheel if only they were a little wider.

I hate loving a product then having a hard time finding it again.

Right now I'm on some 54 mm classics that will wear down to a nice radial shape after a few mm. Thanks to Ben D for that suggestion.

[Sedition]

Yesterday I switched from my 54mm Conical Fulls back to my worn Classics (originally 54mm to about 51-52mm now) and I really noticed how bulky the Conical Fulls felt. My pop and tricks felt better on the old Classics, but I definitely liked the wider contact patch of the Conical Fulls. I'm thinking about getting some Tablets in 52mm, since those have a bigger contact patch but are still quite light. I hear/read that they ride smooth without affecting tech/flip tricks much.
How are your experiences with those? And would you go for 99a or 101a?

Hardness: Depends on the surfaces you are riding. 99a is a great all-round, but they *are* a bit slower on smoother surfaces.

I have ridden every shape of Spitfire wheels. Absent crust, I am utterly bewildered at the connie full trend. Those things are clunky as fuck. Ben DeGros did a great video explaining the differences between rounded edge wheels and squared off ones. I would encourage you to watch that. Tablets are among my least favorite Spitfire shape. They feel super "boxy" to me, and weird on any flip tricks. They lock-in good...if you are grinding in a perfectly parallel manner to the edge of a ledge. If you're doing something like a feeble, smith, cross-lock 50/50, etc. I feel like squared-off wheels get wonky, and something like classic or radial actually "lock" better. In event, wheels don't cost all that much. Give them a shot and see what works for you. 53mm Classics are my jam.

[j....soy.....]

IMO Tabs look dope… I’m on the bones program but same idea in shapes, on the lock edge, something like a smith grind, I can really lean on that back toe and it doesn’t slip out. 

That said the bevel edge gives me a fighting chance if I’m gonna primo, maybe it’s a bit of weight….in general is more forgiving on the in and out of grinds but don’t hold you there as well…

It’s all arguably marginal which leads me to my initial point….

[Murge]

I don’t get the conical full hype. But I did enjoy the time I had on conical regular. But classics slightly big then wear them down is the way for me.

Had some radials in the past but they was 101 didn’t mind them but 101 was too hard and 99a was hard to find til now. So I’m trying not to by the Leo baker  ones cause I don’t need them but damn I want them. Seem like a Goldilocks wheel size snd shape.

[Mbrimson88]

But skaters are anal retentive about these things, either 52 / 54mm, making 53mm the red headed step child.

Red or orange haired??

Seeing as they are bright orange, I would say you are pretty much on the money there too!!!

[BartHarleyJarvis]

I don’t get the conical full hype. But I did enjoy the time I had on conical regular. But classics slightly big then wear them down is the way for me.

Had some radials in the past but they was 101 didn’t mind them but 101 was too hard and 99a was hard to find til now. So I’m trying not to by the Leo baker  ones cause I don’t need them but damn I want them. Seem like a Goldilocks wheel size snd shape.

I'm exactly the same. I've had classic and conical set ups, and I like both but Radial is really the best of both imo. I've got the 55 oski radials but that's just too big ffor most of my set ups, so I'm trying to stock up on the Leo Radials

[Xen]

Conicals are coping/rail chompers imo.

[mvdbosch90]

All right, I went to our local shop this afternoon and decided to go with the regular Conicals in 52mm and 99a. They seemed like a good balance between wide riding surface, fairly low weight, and still a rounded edge that can help make flip tricks, scooping and reverting a little easier. I kept some of your guys comment in mind about the sharp edge, and seeing both wheels in the shop  clearly showed the sharp edge of the tablets.

I haven’t really ridden them yet, apart from the few hundred yards to the skatepark that was still way to wet from the rain On that surface (mostly rough tiles and stones), they felt smoother than my old classics I’ll give my first impression after I skated them a bit

[BartHarleyJarvis]

All right, I went to our local shop this afternoon and decided to go with the regular Conicals in 52mm and 99a. They seemed like a good balance between wide riding surface, fairly low weight, and still a rounded edge that can help make flip tricks, scooping and reverting a little easier. I kept some of your guys comment in mind about the sharp edge, and seeing both wheels in the shop  clearly showed the sharp edge of the tablets.

I haven’t really ridden them yet, apart from the few hundred yards to the skatepark that was still way to wet from the rain On that surface (mostly rough tiles and stones), they felt smoother than my old classics I’ll give my first impression after I skated them a bit

Great wheels. I've been riding mine for a while.

[eviltgirl]

Has anyone here tried the glow in the dark conical fulls? My shop only has the 56s in those and I’m considering them unless they’re notable worse and I should just wait for the next drop