Spitfire formula four

[moonordie]

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I haven't done this but I wonder if one could take Conicals and an angle grinder with a sanding wheel, mount the wheels, and sand down the sharp point where the conical section and sidewall meet? This would prevent train tracking and be pretty close in dims.

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Like this, you mean?

I did it for Rock lobster back in 2022 - Conicals shaped down to match the last set of Radial Slims I had still new in packaging.

I have since done that to a lot of wheels as the process is very easy once you get used to it, but I would recommend trying it on some used wheels first just to get the feel for it.

Impressive as usual.

[rocklobster]

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I haven't done this but I wonder if one could take Conicals and an angle grinder with a sanding wheel, mount the wheels, and sand down the sharp point where the conical section and sidewall meet? This would prevent train tracking and be pretty close in dims.

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Like this, you mean?

I did it for Rock lobster back in 2022 - Conicals shaped down to match the last set of Radial Slims I had still new in packaging.

I have since done that to a lot of wheels as the process is very easy once you get used to it, but I would recommend trying it on some used wheels first just to get the feel for it.

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Impressive as usual.

It was an amazing "Welcome to Australia" gift! It's a shame they were already 52-53mm, I wore them down to 50s before giving them away. @Xen mentioned there are Radial Slims on sale at 303 at the moment, last 5 sets. Unfortunately shipping to the UK is crazy expensive, they're only in 52s, in 101a and won't be readily available anymore. Best to get used to a shape that will stay stocked.

[Sedition]

Someone needs to starter a "Bring Back Radial Slims" Instagram account to put some pressure on DLX.

[Too Frank To Fred]

Someone needs to starter a "Bring Back Radial Slims and Classic Wides" Instagram account to put some pressure on DLX.

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[Fifty8mm]

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Someone needs to starter a "Bring Back Radial Slims and Classic Wides" Instagram account to put some pressure on DLX.

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Classic wides were it.

[BeachChicken]

Honestly Radials are fine for me. They don't train track like a Conical and are basically a pre-worn down Classic. Getting them in a 53 is like a worn 55 so a 52 would be like a nicely used 54 Classic.

[Fooj]

Honestly Radials are fine for me. They don't train track like a Conical and are basically a pre-worn down Classic. Getting them in a 53 is like a worn 55 so a 52 would be like a nicely used 54 Classic.

Same. 53mm Radials are my ATV wheel. Ill go up to 54 sometimes but 53s are the best

[pointandclick]

i get tablets because i can never find radial slims. classics are also fine but not what i want all the time.

[Sedition]

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Someone needs to starter a "Bring Back Radial Slims and Classic Wides" Instagram account to put some pressure on DLX.

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Yup! For sure. With that current “full” trend, I’m actually shocked classic fulls have not come back.

[Síota]

Are spitfires poured in Mexico? Can anyone confirm if so that they are shipped directly to the EU distributors or they go via the US...Pre-emptive tariff thinking..like €75 is already crazy money and now that my local is gone so is my homie discount:-(   .

[Welsh Rarebit]

Are the new 97a F4s only available in the Delfino model at the moment? Thinking of switching from 58mm 99a classics to 56mm 97a conical fulls, I mostly ride indoor skatelite transition so hopefully that would be a good change.

[scab]

^They make Classics, Conical Fulls and Radial Fulls in the reformulated 97A duro. I'm skating a set of the 54mm CFs right now and they're much, much better than the old formula. The tricky thing is that they have all the same branding as the older ones, the only thing that sets them apart is a little sticker that says "new formula" or something to that effect. So you'll have to check the packaging at your local or ask before placing the order if you're shopping online to make sure you get new stock.

[Welsh Rarebit]

Thank you, I’ll see if the local can order some in otherwise I’ll give some other shops a ring.

[Mbrimson88]

Are spitfires poured in Mexico? Can anyone confirm if so that they are shipped directly to the EU distributors or they go via the US...Pre-emptive tariff thinking..like €75 is already crazy money and now that my local is gone so is my homie discount:-(   .

Yes pretty much everything is now made in Mexico, apart from the DLX China made boards.

Also everything goes through DLX in SF, apart from the China made boards.

No matter where you are in the world, Spitfire wheels have come through DLX, then out to the various countries, distributors, etc.

[Lou Strux]

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Are spitfires poured in Mexico? Can anyone confirm if so that they are shipped directly to the EU distributors or they go via the US...Pre-emptive tariff thinking..like €75 is already crazy money and now that my local is gone so is my homie discount:-(   .

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Yes pretty much everything is now made in Mexico, apart from the DLX China made boards.

Also everything goes through DLX in SF, apart from the China made boards.

No matter where you are in the world, Spitfire wheels have come through DLX, then out to the various countries, distributors, etc.

Best believe there’s already a plan in the works to minimize the impact on global partners though.
Would not shock me to learn of a new warehouse facility shipping direct from Mexico to the rest of the world in order to circumvent extra costs.
TL:DR, I believe in Kirk Dewald.
Sharp cookie.

[Mbrimson88]

Best believe there’s already a plan in the world to minimize the impact on global partners though.
Would not shock me to learn of a new warehouse facility shipping direct from Mexico to the rest of the world in order to circumvent extra costs.
TL:DR, I believe in Kirk Dewald.
Sharp cookie.

Yeah, given current events, that would definitely make sense.

Not sure how easily that would tie in with everything else, but it shouldn't be too difficult to pack a shipping container from where they are made to send to which ever country is the end destination, or even the continent in some cases.

I am still stoked to have whatever we get whenever we get it, given most product gets here to AU a few months after the usual releases in USA, but that's ok.

The reality is I would still be more stoked to wait however long as needed to get the good stuff.

[Síota]

Fingers crossed. Also I'm guessing the 25% tariff from Mexico to US products at the moment is on wholesale not retail prices? Yeah sending the straight from Mexico to the EU, UK, Australian distributor's must be cheaper for everyone in the long run. Hopefully the can do the same with the BBS wood.

[Top-Heavy Hookjaw]

First session on F4’s today. Am I the last person on earth to try this formula?

[BALARGUE]

Fingers crossed. Also I'm guessing the 25% tariff from Mexico to US products at the moment is on wholesale not retail prices? Yeah sending the straight from Mexico to the EU, UK, Australian distributor's must be cheaper for everyone in the long run. Hopefully the can do the same with the BBS wood.

Tariffs should apply on wholesale prices and you'll naturally get the rise on retail prices

[frtzgn95]

First session on F4’s today. Am I the last person on earth to try this formula?

Nah, I haven't tried yet. I couldn't find any. No skate shops (4 physical/online shops total) in my country (Turkey) has Spitfires. Now I just gave up, I don't want to try it anymore.

[rawbertson.]

Been on the t funk wheel for last little bit
60mm 97a old formula 4
This wheel feels so stable and fast on every terrain

60 feels a little clunkier than I would like, and also the size combined with radial full shape feel like shit on feeble grinds. I went to another setup with slightly wider trucks and small classics full wheels and feebles were so laughably easy.

[bombsaway86]

Been on the t funk wheel for last little bit
60mm 97a old formula 4
This wheel feels so stable and fast on every terrain

60 feels a little clunkier than I would like, and also the size combined with radial full shape feel like shit on feeble grinds. I went to another setup with slightly wider trucks and small classics full wheels and feebles were so laughably easy.

I don’t get how everyone is riding these huge full shapes, they make everything so much harder

[Elijah Chandler]

Been on the t funk wheel for last little bit
60mm 97a old formula 4
This wheel feels so stable and fast on every terrain

60 feels a little clunkier than I would like, and also the size combined with radial full shape feel like shit on feeble grinds. I went to another setup with slightly wider trucks and small classics full wheels and feebles were so laughably easy.

I wish I could've gotten a few sets of those

[Mbrimson88]

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Been on the t funk wheel for last little bit
60mm 97a old formula 4
This wheel feels so stable and fast on every terrain

60 feels a little clunkier than I would like, and also the size combined with radial full shape feel like shit on feeble grinds. I went to another setup with slightly wider trucks and small classics full wheels and feebles were so laughably easy.

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I wish I could've gotten a few sets of those

I know it is not quite the same, but the regular natural colour Spitfire Radial Full 97 duro 58 mm is very close and is a standard line, so there should be a good number around, at least in all the normal shops and distributors.

If you are wanting the 60 mm wheel in Radial Full in 99 duro, the "Hot Hand" wheel is also currently out and lots around the place.  Also natural / white colour and those things look huge when comparing them to most other sets I have on boards right now.

The bigger and wider wheels in any option might sell out pretty fast though, so asking to order a set or two in could be easier than trying to track them down.

[moonordie]

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Been on the t funk wheel for last little bit
60mm 97a old formula 4
This wheel feels so stable and fast on every terrain

60 feels a little clunkier than I would like, and also the size combined with radial full shape feel like shit on feeble grinds. I went to another setup with slightly wider trucks and small classics full wheels and feebles were so laughably easy.

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I don’t get how everyone is riding these huge full shapes, they make everything so much harder

Same here, for me the biggest full shape I can deal with are 53mm CF

[scab]

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Been on the t funk wheel for last little bit
60mm 97a old formula 4
This wheel feels so stable and fast on every terrain

60 feels a little clunkier than I would like, and also the size combined with radial full shape feel like shit on feeble grinds. I went to another setup with slightly wider trucks and small classics full wheels and feebles were so laughably easy.

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I don’t get how everyone is riding these huge full shapes, they make everything so much harder

Getting speed, holding speed, going through crust, rolling over stuff, locking into grinds... There's tons of stuff that's unquestionably easier on bigger wheels. Then there's also a bunch of stuff that may be easier or harder depending on the individual, like the potential for higher ollies and more pop in general. So, no, big wheels don't make everything so much harder.

Speaking of big wheels: There's an ad for 93 radial fulls out, they are gonna be a Bannerot pro model. I'm sure it's on socials somewhere but I'm not on those platforms, maybe someone else can link to it. Soft formula and wide riding surface, looks like my prayers have been answered.

[Mbrimson88]

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Been on the t funk wheel for last little bit
60mm 97a old formula 4
This wheel feels so stable and fast on every terrain

60 feels a little clunkier than I would like, and also the size combined with radial full shape feel like shit on feeble grinds. I went to another setup with slightly wider trucks and small classics full wheels and feebles were so laughably easy.

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I don’t get how everyone is riding these huge full shapes, they make everything so much harder

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Getting speed, holding speed, going through crust, rolling over stuff, locking into grinds... There's tons of stuff that's unquestionably easier on bigger wheels. Then there's also a bunch of stuff that may be easier or harder depending on the individual, like the potential for higher ollies and more pop in general. So, no, big wheels don't make everything so much harder.

Speaking of big wheels: There's an ad for 93 radial fulls out, they are gonna be a Bannerot pro model. I'm sure it's on socials somewhere but I'm not on those platforms, maybe someone else can link to it. Soft formula and wide riding surface, looks like my prayers have been answered.

For people who like a bigger, but softer wheel, they are going to be the one to get, that's for sure.

For the size - 60 mm 93 duro - they will definitely make some people happy.

Full details are still yet to be released from what I understand, so someone else can spill the beans on them, or post more info when they get it, but there aren't that many "Full" shaped wheel options anyway.  How many people would prefer a Conical Full or a Radial Full wheel?


In general, bigger and wider wheels do have more weight, so I understand when people struggle with them because of that, but once someone gets used to them for a "Roll over everything" type wheel, more so than a small technical wheel, it is not that hard to then take them to bigger and harder things to skate, as a lot of those skaters are doing that we see smashing it on whatever terrain they are riding them.

To say they are an acquired taste is also not quite right, because some people I know who have jumped on the Radial Full wheels in big sizes have loved them, especially one person who said they hadn't skated anything over 53 mm in twenty years, or something like that.

[rawbertson.]

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Been on the t funk wheel for last little bit
60mm 97a old formula 4
This wheel feels so stable and fast on every terrain

60 feels a little clunkier than I would like, and also the size combined with radial full shape feel like shit on feeble grinds. I went to another setup with slightly wider trucks and small classics full wheels and feebles were so laughably easy.

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I wish I could've gotten a few sets of those

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I know it is not quite the same, but the regular natural colour Spitfire Radial Full 97 duro 58 mm is very close and is a standard line, so there should be a good number around, at least in all the normal shops and distributors.

If you are wanting the 60 mm wheel in Radial Full in 99 duro, the "Hot Hand" wheel is also currently out and lots around the place.  Also natural / white colour and those things look huge when comparing them to most other sets I have on boards right now.

The bigger and wider wheels in any option might sell out pretty fast though, so asking to order a set or two in could be easier than trying to track them down.

Lol I already got em    

just to add to the huge wheel thing - it is really just that 1 grind that felt harder for me (but still possible). flip tricks are a little slow but i can still land the ones i need to start a line or boost off a jump / down a drop. probably not a setup you want to practice gazelle flips on.

I think the ideal size of wheel for me is around 54-56mm, seems to be really good spot for me as far as landing good tricks. i am not that concerned with that though. its fun to skate in your neighbourhood place to place when your board is really fast like that and can handle crust easily.

these will last forever and eventually be small as well. was thinking if they are way too wide proportionally once they are down to 55mm, i can just reshape thme with the grinder and then i will have brand new classics again so its like 2 wheels for the price of one (re shape em again at 50mm for a 3rd even lmao)

[munchbox]

radial fulls are available in 54mm

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radial fulls are available in 54mm

and at that size they make more sense, for me. the wide and the tall are too much. 52 radial full is what i’d buy (one set of. i cannot imagine anyone clamoring for this).

the talk a little bit back of the radial slim/radial/radial full, made too much sense.
tablets suck, and are hideous.
actually maybe i just don’t like how they look.
i have been skating 56 radial fills, but that’s a bit much. getting back down to worn in 54 classics/52 lock-in’s/52 conical fulls