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[streetmeat]

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HIGH VIS, RAW BREED, CANDY APPLE...all hot new releases

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High Vis is a VERY good band that everyone should check out immediately

the new LP might be my AOTY

[pleasent street]

haven't been in a hardcore scene for a long time. i remembered turnstile being a decent band, but i just randomly listened to their newest album and wtf is this shit haha it's unlistenable, can anyone explain what happened or did they just go down the usual hardcore to hipster route yet fail spectacularly?

[Paul Cicero]

haven't been in a hardcore scene for a long time. i remembered turnstile being a decent band, but i just randomly listened to their newest album and wtf is this shit haha it's unlistenable, can anyone explain what happened or did they just go down the usual hardcore to hipster route yet fail spectacularly?

They were never particularly “hardcore” say compared to TUI or Backtrack, I think the sound evolved pretty naturally to be honest.

Is it a poppier take on hardcore punk? yes..

Is it good? - FUCK YES

[streetmeat]

haven't been in a hardcore scene for a long time. i remembered turnstile being a decent band, but i just randomly listened to their newest album and wtf is this shit haha it's unlistenable, can anyone explain what happened or did they just go down the usual hardcore to hipster route yet fail spectacularly?

considering they are without a doubt the largest hardcore band of all time, i wouldn't say they failed

[yghartsyrt]

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haven't been in a hardcore scene for a long time. i remembered turnstile being a decent band, but i just randomly listened to their newest album and wtf is this shit haha it's unlistenable, can anyone explain what happened or did they just go down the usual hardcore to hipster route yet fail spectacularly?

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considering they are without a doubt the largest hardcore band of all time, i wouldn't say they failed

That’s quite a statement and I’m not sure, I agree since indent have any numbers to verify it, but I’m pretty sure bands like biohazard, sick of it all, at the drive in, black flag or refused and pretty much at the same level of attention - at least from my perspective

[straight fucking edge]

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haven't been in a hardcore scene for a long time. i remembered turnstile being a decent band, but i just randomly listened to their newest album and wtf is this shit haha it's unlistenable, can anyone explain what happened or did they just go down the usual hardcore to hipster route yet fail spectacularly?

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They were never particularly “hardcore” say compared to TUI or Backtrack,

pressure to succeed is an extension of TUI circa stay cold.  death grip is a textbook hardcore song.

[straight fucking edge]

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haven't been in a hardcore scene for a long time. i remembered turnstile being a decent band, but i just randomly listened to their newest album and wtf is this shit haha it's unlistenable, can anyone explain what happened or did they just go down the usual hardcore to hipster route yet fail spectacularly?

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considering they are without a doubt the largest hardcore band of all time, i wouldn't say they failed

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That’s quite a statement and I’m not sure, I agree since indent have any numbers to verify it, but I’m pretty sure bands like biohazard, sick of it all, at the drive in, black flag or refused and pretty much at the same level of attention - at least from my perspective

considering that you consider at the drive in a hardcore band, and that you think people care about black flag, sick of it all, or biohazard, i would say your perspective is a little bit removed.  the latter bands may pull a decent crowd at big festival, but on a club tour they aren't

[yghartsyrt]

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haven't been in a hardcore scene for a long time. i remembered turnstile being a decent band, but i just randomly listened to their newest album and wtf is this shit haha it's unlistenable, can anyone explain what happened or did they just go down the usual hardcore to hipster route yet fail spectacularly?

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considering they are without a doubt the largest hardcore band of all time, i wouldn't say they failed

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That’s quite a statement and I’m not sure, I agree since indent have any numbers to verify it, but I’m pretty sure bands like biohazard, sick of it all, at the drive in, black flag or refused and pretty much at the same level of attention - at least from my perspective

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considering that you consider at the drive in a hardcore band, and that you think people care about black flag, sick of it all, or biohazard, i would say your perspective is a little bit removed.  the latter bands may pull a decent crowd at big festival, but on a club tour they aren't

Ok - we might have different views on what constitutes a hardcore band. I’m the 90s and with their first album at the drive in was considered a hardcore band - at least in my part of the scene. I guess this is just the old discussion of hardcore as a mindset vs hardcore as a strict musical genre. I’m leaning more towards the first perspective.

I was referring to the „of all time“ part of the statement.
And regarding pulling a crowd. I’m not saying that the bands I mentioned have any relevance today  - most of them don’t, but they had a similar pull as turnstile in their heyday. And maybe it’s also a regional difference (I’m from Germany). I remember seeing biohazard on their first euro tour and they played big places. As for today - sure, Turnstile is probably one of the most successful (if not the most successful) bands. In terms of records sold - I’m not sure.

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haven't been in a hardcore scene for a long time. i remembered turnstile being a decent band, but i just randomly listened to their newest album and wtf is this shit haha it's unlistenable, can anyone explain what happened or did they just go down the usual hardcore to hipster route yet fail spectacularly?

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considering they are without a doubt the largest hardcore band of all time, i wouldn't say they failed

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That’s quite a statement and I’m not sure, I agree since indent have any numbers to verify it, but I’m pretty sure bands like biohazard, sick of it all, at the drive in, black flag or refused and pretty much at the same level of attention - at least from my perspective

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considering that you consider at the drive in a hardcore band, and that you think people care about black flag, sick of it all, or biohazard, i would say your perspective is a little bit removed.  the latter bands may pull a decent crowd at big festival, but on a club tour they aren't

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Ok - we might have different views on what constitutes a hardcore band. I’m the 90s and with their first album at the drive in was considered a hardcore band - at least in my part of the scene. I guess this is just the old discussion of hardcore as a mindset vs hardcore as a strict musical genre. I’m leaning more towards the first perspective.

I was referring to the „of all time“ part of the statement.
And regarding pulling a crowd. I’m not saying that the bands I mentioned have any relevance today  - most of them don’t, but they had a similar pull as turnstile in their heyday. And maybe it’s also a regional difference (I’m from Germany). I remember seeing biohazard on their first euro tour and they played big places. As for today - sure, Turnstile is probably one of the most successful (if not the most successful) bands. In terms of records sold - I’m not sure.

all those bands had success in their own right and in the late 90's early 2000's there was a push to get those bands mainstream coverage, tho pretty much all of them only saw late night MTV2/Headbangers Ball play. I dont know if you've seen any videos of Turnstiles current tour but its pretty fuckin unreal. TS (and Knocked Loose) are on whole other level.

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haven't been in a hardcore scene for a long time. i remembered turnstile being a decent band, but i just randomly listened to their newest album and wtf is this shit haha it's unlistenable, can anyone explain what happened or did they just go down the usual hardcore to hipster route yet fail spectacularly?

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considering they are without a doubt the largest hardcore band of all time, i wouldn't say they failed

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That’s quite a statement and I’m not sure, I agree since indent have any numbers to verify it, but I’m pretty sure bands like biohazard, sick of it all, at the drive in, black flag or refused and pretty much at the same level of attention - at least from my perspective

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considering that you consider at the drive in a hardcore band, and that you think people care about black flag, sick of it all, or biohazard, i would say your perspective is a little bit removed.  the latter bands may pull a decent crowd at big festival, but on a club tour they aren't

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Ok - we might have different views on what constitutes a hardcore band. I’m the 90s and with their first album at the drive in was considered a hardcore band - at least in my part of the scene. I guess this is just the old discussion of hardcore as a mindset vs hardcore as a strict musical genre. I’m leaning more towards the first perspective.

I was referring to the „of all time“ part of the statement.
And regarding pulling a crowd. I’m not saying that the bands I mentioned have any relevance today  - most of them don’t, but they had a similar pull as turnstile in their heyday. And maybe it’s also a regional difference (I’m from Germany). I remember seeing biohazard on their first euro tour and they played big places. As for today - sure, Turnstile is probably one of the most successful (if not the most successful) bands. In terms of records sold - I’m not sure.

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all those bands had success in their own right and in the late 90's early 2000's there was a push to get those bands mainstream coverage, tho pretty much all of them only saw late night MTV2/Headbangers Ball play. I dont know if you've seen any videos of Turnstiles current tour but its pretty fuckin unreal. TS (and Knocked Loose) are on whole other level.

Ok. Maybe I need to check again. Last time I saw a turnstile show on YouTube it was big, but not bigger than those 90s roadrunner type of bands. Maybe I was under the wrong impression

[pleasent street]

how can you even say it sounds good, it's like hardcore watered down for normies. also saying they're the most popular hardcore band of all time is incorrect because they're not even a hardcore band at this point. i think maybe have heart or bane might be up there for most popular hardcore bands of all time

[streetmeat]

how can you even say it sounds good, it's like hardcore watered down for normies. also saying they're the most popular hardcore band of all time is incorrect because they're not even a hardcore band at this point. i think maybe have heart or bane might be up there for most popular hardcore bands of all time

[pleasent street]

nah have heart were sick and they will go down as one of the greatest, dgaf how mysterious cool guy you are, if you disagree you are wrong

[streetmeat]

nah have heart were sick and they will go down as one of the greatest, dgaf how mysterious cool guy you are, if you disagree you are wrong

lol i am a have heart fan, but its not like it wasn't the most accessible hardcore.

[straight fucking edge]

bane might be the worst hardcore band of all time

[streetmeat]

bane might be the worst hardcore band of all time

they have hits, 'count me out' might be a top 100 hc song of all time. they stayed a band for waaaaaaay too long tho

[mattchew]

Thread never fails to bang me over the head with some unimaginably terrible takes. Jah bless you all.

Just blast Totalitar and forget you ever heard Turnstile or fucking At The Drive In, yikes.

https://jeffpoot.bandcamp.com/album/totalit-r-wallbreaker-two-1995-2007

[streetmeat]

Thread never fails to bang me over the head with some unimaginably terrible takes. Jah bless you all.

Just blast Totalitar and forget you ever heard Turnstile or fucking At The Drive In, yikes.

https://jeffpoot.bandcamp.com/album/totalit-r-wallbreaker-two-1995-2007

haters cant believe i can enjoy all 3

[yghartsyrt]

Thread never fails to bang me over the head with some unimaginably terrible takes. Jah bless you all.

Just blast Totalitar and forget you ever heard Turnstile or fucking At The Drive In, yikes.

https://jeffpoot.bandcamp.com/album/totalit-r-wallbreaker-two-1995-2007

Lol. Never said at the drive in was cool. Just mentioned it as a popular band.

[Paul Cicero]

bane might be the worst hardcore band of all time

I’ve never really given them much time to be honest, does anyone have a link to their doco??

[modern life is war]

I can see how in a european's view of the world at the drive-in would be considered hardcore, just like rage against the machine and system of a down

[streetmeat]

wouldnt call them a straight up hardcore band but they are directly adjacent to it. theres far dumber things people tag as hardcore. ‘relationship of command’ is an all-time record.

[yghartsyrt]

I can see how in a european's view of the world at the drive-in would be considered hardcore, just like rage against the machine and system of a down

Yeah, that’s pretty hardcore - creating a burner account just because of at the drive in.

I can only imagine how it feels dealing with such an amount of insecurity

[Freelancevagrant]

Fuck all the haters acrobatic tenement is a fucking goated album. Guess y’all really wouldn’t stand for any of the above smdh.

[modern life is war]

Fuck all the haters acrobatic tenement is a fucking goated album. Guess y’all really wouldn’t stand for any of the above smdh.

Yeah this song and Initiation are great songs. In fact pretty much everything up to and including Relationship of command is solid, although it's not 'hardcore'. The band members are super lame people though, like when they walked off stage at a show in Sydney beccause the crowd was moshing and not 'dancing'

[Freelancevagrant]

I mean they’re a post hardcore band...

I’m not saying that I think they’re the greatest, by any means. But they’re definitely a significant post hardcore band.

But at any rate, Bear vs Shark is about a thousand times better then atdi anyway.

[modern life is war]

So what is actually happening in hardcore right now? Who are the big bands? I've always had one foot in the door of the hardcore scene and the other in the door of the punk scene. Favorite bands of the last 10 years were Culo, hank wood and the hammerheads, raw nerve, cult ritual. As a teenager i liked the more straightforward hardcore like american nightmare, champion, modern life is war, carry on.

Anyone got recs of new bands to check out?

[streetmeat]

So what is actually happening in hardcore right now? Who are the big bands? I've always had one foot in the door of the hardcore scene and the other in the door of the punk scene. Favorite bands of the last 10 years were Culo, hank wood and the hammerheads, raw nerve, cult ritual. As a teenager i liked the more straightforward hardcore like american nightmare, champion, modern life is war, carry on.

Anyone got recs of new bands to check out?

It's poppin off. Seems like the wave of people wanting to see live music in a post covid world is still at a high. I live in a C-market city and even our most mid shows are seeing numbers not seen in the 22 years i've been going to shows here.

As far as bands, the ones you listed are the style i align with most (damn i miss playing shows with Raw Nerve). I feel like its harder for me to find bands i like right now. I tend to lean to the straight forward hardcore ala Painkiller Records type bands. The 90's influence going on right now has to be the single worst thing thats come back around in Hardcore. Teenagers acting like anyone ever gave a fuck about a dollar bin Current 7" then or now.

As far as things to check out, my best of list for the year includes: The Flex, Skinhead, Warthog, Peace Test, Ammo, Brain Tourniquet, Dead Last, Yambag, Terror, Churchgoers, Raw Breed, Candy Apple, High Vis, Inclination, ICU.

Yet, no one this year topped The Chisel LP from last year tho.

[yghartsyrt]

Recent combust and end it releases are total killers in terms of straight hardcore

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So what is actually happening in hardcore right now? Who are the big bands? I've always had one foot in the door of the hardcore scene and the other in the door of the punk scene. Favorite bands of the last 10 years were Culo, hank wood and the hammerheads, raw nerve, cult ritual. As a teenager i liked the more straightforward hardcore like american nightmare, champion, modern life is war, carry on.

Anyone got recs of new bands to check out?

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It's poppin off. Seems like the wave of people wanting to see live music in a post covid world is still at a high. I live in a C-market city and even our most mid shows are seeing numbers not seen in the 22 years i've been going to shows here.

As far as bands, the ones you listed are the style i align with most (damn i miss playing shows with Raw Nerve). I feel like its harder for me to find bands i like right now. I tend to lean to the straight forward hardcore ala Painkiller Records type bands. The 90's influence going on right now has to be the single worst thing thats come back around in Hardcore. Teenagers acting like anyone ever gave a fuck about a dollar bin Current 7" then or now.

As far as things to check out, my best of list for the year includes: The Flex, Skinhead, Warthog, Peace Test, Ammo, Brain Tourniquet, Dead Last, Yambag, Terror, Churchgoers, Raw Breed, Candy Apple, High Vis, Inclination, ICU.

Yet, no one this year topped The Chisel LP from last year tho.

I recognise a bunch from your list like warthog, the flex, and terror obviously.

Dead last are fucking sick. I'd love to hear other new bands doing this style of straightforward 00s hardcore.
Peace test, Brain tourniquet are a bit too powerviolence-ish for my tastes.
Ammo, Yambag, Skinhead were sick. In like 2015 I was of the opinion that the modern hardcore  weirdo punk sound was definitely being played out but it's cool some bands are still bringing a fresh sound to the genre.
Churchgoers, Raw breed, Candy Apple didn't really do it for me.
I appreciate what Inclination are doing, like a modern Earth Crisis, and I would have loved it at a certain point in my younger years. I can tell they would be sick live. I might come back to them again soon because they are actually very sick, but right now they are definitely a band that i would have to be in the right mood for.
I really like High Vis but i couldn't find anything from them that sounded hardcore. Regardless they are great and actually one my favorites from your list
I couldn't find a hardcore band named ICU.

Appreciate the recommendations a lot. Some great bands in there. I gotta try see some of these bands live, it's been a long time since i've been to a hc/punk show.