Wheels Thread

[PrettyRicki]

IMO it might be a little hard to find a wheel that has the filmer cushiony feel that still skates like a hard wheel, maybe ricta clouds 92a.

My buddy has some Ricta Clouds 52mm 92a and they're a pretty sweet wheel. They ride very smooth, especially for the size and they can even noseslide if you press down hard enough and are going fast.

They're a little too soft and cushiony for me so the closest thing to filmer wheels that I ride are the Spitfire Formula 4 Conical Full 54mm 97a. They're nice and wide, can roll over anything but they have the feedback and response of a street wheel. I was only able to noseslide and boardslide ledges with them with a slick board though.

[sketchyrider]

yeah, if you *had* to have one wheel to do it all, from cruising to sliding on ledges, it would probably be a 95a or 97a wheel.

its kinda worth it to have a cruiser board and a main setup, if you like cruising instead of say riding a bike.

[topfrog10]

yeah, if you *had* to have one wheel to do it all, from cruising to sliding on ledges, it would probably be a 95a or 97a wheel.

its kinda worth it to have a cruiser board and a main setup, if you like cruising instead of say riding a bike.

i'm definitely a bike over cruiser guy and have recently discovered the greatness of biking to spots. i think i might get the bones filmer wheels and wait on a recommendation from  someone here on a good slappy and transition wheel

[PrettyRicki]

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yeah, if you *had* to have one wheel to do it all, from cruising to sliding on ledges, it would probably be a 95a or 97a wheel.

its kinda worth it to have a cruiser board and a main setup, if you like cruising instead of say riding a bike.

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i'm definitely a bike over cruiser guy and have recently discovered the greatness of biking to spots. i think i might get the bones filmer wheels and wait on a recommendation from  someone here on a good slappy and transition wheel

A wheel that's good at slappys and transition? I always thought people enjoyed small wheels for slappys and bigger wheels for transition. Either way, you might wanna look at the Spitfire F4 Classic 53mm 97a.

[Mbrimson88]

Looking for some wheel recommendations y'all. Currently on a polar dane 1 9.75, indy 169s, slimeball 97s, spitfire reds. I'm just breaking this set-up in but I can already tell that the slimeballs (not new) are not gonna work with what I'm looking to ride this specific board for. I want to use this as a slappy/transition screw around board and also as a filming board (hoping I can find wheels that would work for both options). I'm open to trying wheels other than spits and bones (i only seem to ride F4s on other setups). What size/durometer would you recommend for what I'm trying to do and anyone have any specific wheel recommendations?

What size are / were the Slimeballs?

They do come in 60mm (which are great fun for bigger type wheels) but also down as low as 53 or 52mm as well, so it depends on what size wheel you are wanting, which i have not seen you say yet.

Most of these other wheels mentioned also come in 52 up to 56 or so and readily available for the most part, depending on where you are or where you are willing to buy from.


There really are so many alternatives, big to small, hard to soft, so depending on where you are might limit your options.


Filmer wheels (around 80 to 90 duro) are so good for cruising as well but are rather limiting for skating more normally, but if you are used to them, I gues it is ok as I know people who love them for everything.  The Bones / Powell 90 duro wheels are really good for still getting around fast and you can skate them easily enough on transition but they do slow you down in tricks that would normally keep you rolling faster with harder wheels, not so much slides, but grinds where the wheel is pushing against the edge like slappies to some degree too.

Normal wheels, even slightly softer will be a much better overall ride, so 95+ duro

Even between Slimeballs 97 and Spitfire 97s there are significant differences - I have both and they are both good wheels,  for a slightly softer normal wheel feel.

I got the classic 56mm 97 Spitfires and they are so good being that little bit bigger, great for slappy grinds, not so easy for nose or tail slides right now but they will wear down over time and last a lot longer too.

So that is just my opinion and most of my normal boards have 99 duro Spitfires that are closer to 52-54 worn down wheels that were bigger when new, but I still have boards with 97, 95, 92 and some even softer wheels that are good for certain things.

[topfrog10]

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Looking for some wheel recommendations y'all. Currently on a polar dane 1 9.75, indy 169s, slimeball 97s, spitfire reds. I'm just breaking this set-up in but I can already tell that the slimeballs (not new) are not gonna work with what I'm looking to ride this specific board for. I want to use this as a slappy/transition screw around board and also as a filming board (hoping I can find wheels that would work for both options). I'm open to trying wheels other than spits and bones (i only seem to ride F4s on other setups). What size/durometer would you recommend for what I'm trying to do and anyone have any specific wheel recommendations?

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What size are / were the Slimeballs?

They do come in 60mm (which are great fun for bigger type wheels) but also down as low as 53 or 52mm as well, so it depends on what size wheel you are wanting, which i have not seen you say yet.

Most of these other wheels mentioned also come in 52 up to 56 or so and readily available for the most part, depending on where you are or where you are willing to buy from.


There really are so many alternatives, big to small, hard to soft, so depending on where you are might limit your options.


Filmer wheels (around 80 to 90 duro) are so good for cruising as well but are rather limiting for skating more normally, but if you are used to them, I gues it is ok as I know people who love them for everything.  The Bones / Powell 90 duro wheels are really good for still getting around fast and you can skate them easily enough on transition but they do slow you down in tricks that would normally keep you rolling faster with harder wheels, not so much slides, but grinds where the wheel is pushing against the edge like slappies to some degree too.

Normal wheels, even slightly softer will be a much better overall ride, so 95+ duro

Even between Slimeballs 97 and Spitfire 97s there are significant differences - I have both and they are both good wheels,  for a slightly softer normal wheel feel.

I got the classic 56mm 97 Spitfires and they are so good being that little bit bigger, great for slappy grinds, not so easy for nose or tail slides right now but they will wear down over time and last a lot longer too.

So that is just my opinion and most of my normal boards have 99 duro Spitfires that are closer to 52-54 worn down wheels that were bigger when new, but I still have boards with 97, 95, 92 and some even softer wheels that are good for certain things.

thanks for all this info man, it's appreciated. i'm pretty sure the slimes are 58, and if i'm being honest i csnt tell you what i don't like about them which is why i don't know what i should change for make them ideal. i think i want to go with a 56 or 58 wheel, i ride 54 classics on my smaller setup and i really like them but i was concerned that the contact patch might be too skinny for good slappy/transition riding on a board that is so much larger (normally ride 8.5). so if i'm scratching the search for filmer wheels and want a solid 56/58 wheel for slappy riding n transition, would you recommend a 97 classic or do you think a wider contact patch would be more ideal?

[Mbrimson88]

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Looking for some wheel recommendations y'all. Currently on a polar dane 1 9.75, indy 169s, slimeball 97s, spitfire reds. I'm just breaking this set-up in but I can already tell that the slimeballs (not new) are not gonna work with what I'm looking to ride this specific board for. I want to use this as a slappy/transition screw around board and also as a filming board (hoping I can find wheels that would work for both options). I'm open to trying wheels other than spits and bones (i only seem to ride F4s on other setups). What size/durometer would you recommend for what I'm trying to do and anyone have any specific wheel recommendations?

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What size are / were the Slimeballs?

They do come in 60mm (which are great fun for bigger type wheels) but also down as low as 53 or 52mm as well, so it depends on what size wheel you are wanting, which i have not seen you say yet.

Most of these other wheels mentioned also come in 52 up to 56 or so and readily available for the most part, depending on where you are or where you are willing to buy from.


There really are so many alternatives, big to small, hard to soft, so depending on where you are might limit your options.


Filmer wheels (around 80 to 90 duro) are so good for cruising as well but are rather limiting for skating more normally, but if you are used to them, I gues it is ok as I know people who love them for everything.  The Bones / Powell 90 duro wheels are really good for still getting around fast and you can skate them easily enough on transition but they do slow you down in tricks that would normally keep you rolling faster with harder wheels, not so much slides, but grinds where the wheel is pushing against the edge like slappies to some degree too.

Normal wheels, even slightly softer will be a much better overall ride, so 95+ duro

Even between Slimeballs 97 and Spitfire 97s there are significant differences - I have both and they are both good wheels,  for a slightly softer normal wheel feel.

I got the classic 56mm 97 Spitfires and they are so good being that little bit bigger, great for slappy grinds, not so easy for nose or tail slides right now but they will wear down over time and last a lot longer too.

So that is just my opinion and most of my normal boards have 99 duro Spitfires that are closer to 52-54 worn down wheels that were bigger when new, but I still have boards with 97, 95, 92 and some even softer wheels that are good for certain things.

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thanks for all this info man, it's appreciated. i'm pretty sure the slimes are 58, and if i'm being honest i csnt tell you what i don't like about them which is why i don't know what i should change for make them ideal. i think i want to go with a 56 or 58 wheel, i ride 54 classics on my smaller setup and i really like them but i was concerned that the contact patch might be too skinny for good slappy/transition riding on a board that is so much larger (normally ride 8.5). so if i'm scratching the search for filmer wheels and want a solid 56/58 wheel for slappy riding n transition, would you recommend a 97 classic or do you think a wider contact patch would be more ideal?

The weird thing about the 56mm 97 classics is they seem to have the best mix of grip and contact right from the first session in a fairly new almost slippery bowl, but I guess being more conservative in my approach, I definitely welcomed the fact I didn't slip out on them.

Sending you pics of board and bowl anyway, but I could definitely put these on any board, normal about the same size as yours or a bigger wider board too and I think they would work well.


Edit:  There is always the conical full 97 duro wheels too, 54mm being quite decent in size, but they also have them in bigger 56 and 58 but they might be long gone as I think they sell out very quickly.

[Sundaynuggets]

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Looking for some wheel recommendations y'all. Currently on a polar dane 1 9.75, indy 169s, slimeball 97s, spitfire reds. I'm just breaking this set-up in but I can already tell that the slimeballs (not new) are not gonna work with what I'm looking to ride this specific board for. I want to use this as a slappy/transition screw around board and also as a filming board (hoping I can find wheels that would work for both options). I'm open to trying wheels other than spits and bones (i only seem to ride F4s on other setups). What size/durometer would you recommend for what I'm trying to do and anyone have any specific wheel recommendations?

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What size are / were the Slimeballs?

They do come in 60mm (which are great fun for bigger type wheels) but also down as low as 53 or 52mm as well, so it depends on what size wheel you are wanting, which i have not seen you say yet.

Most of these other wheels mentioned also come in 52 up to 56 or so and readily available for the most part, depending on where you are or where you are willing to buy from.


There really are so many alternatives, big to small, hard to soft, so depending on where you are might limit your options.


Filmer wheels (around 80 to 90 duro) are so good for cruising as well but are rather limiting for skating more normally, but if you are used to them, I gues it is ok as I know people who love them for everything.  The Bones / Powell 90 duro wheels are really good for still getting around fast and you can skate them easily enough on transition but they do slow you down in tricks that would normally keep you rolling faster with harder wheels, not so much slides, but grinds where the wheel is pushing against the edge like slappies to some degree too.

Normal wheels, even slightly softer will be a much better overall ride, so 95+ duro

Even between Slimeballs 97 and Spitfire 97s there are significant differences - I have both and they are both good wheels,  for a slightly softer normal wheel feel.

I got the classic 56mm 97 Spitfires and they are so good being that little bit bigger, great for slappy grinds, not so easy for nose or tail slides right now but they will wear down over time and last a lot longer too.

So that is just my opinion and most of my normal boards have 99 duro Spitfires that are closer to 52-54 worn down wheels that were bigger when new, but I still have boards with 97, 95, 92 and some even softer wheels that are good for certain things.

How do the slimeball 97’s slide compter to spitfire 97’s? I love the spitfires and how they slide but haven’t tried my slime balls yet and am not sure if I want to ride them or sell/trade them

[Mbrimson88]

How do the slimeball 97’s slide compter to spitfire 97’s? I love the spitfires and how they slide but haven’t tried my slime balls yet and am not sure if I want to ride them or sell/trade them

I would say much the same overall - both need a little more effort as they do grip more, but also both can still slide fairly well when you get them going.

There are still slight differences in riding them, maybe I am just more a Spitfire guy than anything else, but they both do the job I wanted which was NOT to slip out on some slightly more slick surfaces (new concrete park and wooden ramp) but also were fun on the rough road too.

[Sundaynuggets]

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How do the slimeball 97’s slide compter to spitfire 97’s? I love the spitfires and how they slide but haven’t tried my slime balls yet and am not sure if I want to ride them or sell/trade them

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I would say much the same overall - both need a little more effort as they do grip more, but also both can still slide fairly well when you get them going.

There are still slight differences in riding them, maybe I am just more a Spitfire guy than anything else, but they both do the job I wanted which was NOT to slip out on some slightly more slick surfaces (new concrete park and wooden ramp) but also were fun on the rough road too.

Awesome, thanks!

[Movies]

Just a heads up for any Canadians looking to try one of the newer indy wheel brands, it looks like The Source in Calgary has a full selection of Loopholes, NFG's and Snot Wheels in stock....

https://www.sourceboards.com/collections/wheels

[con_hielo]

Just a heads up for any Canadians looking to try one of the newer indy wheel brands, it looks like The Source in Calgary has a full selection of Loopholes, NFG's and Snot Wheels in stock....

https://www.sourceboards.com/collections/wheels

Shit! Thanks!

[Murge]

2 sessions in on bones 99a bones V5s  they are kind of a natural color but very light and i really like the shape. I get the plastic feel now but I kinda like it. They slide great on ledges and feel a little smoother than my f4 classics. I haven’t skated them in a park yet though. I can’t break into power slides like I could with classics. The bones stick more in that aspect or as of now they do.

Also where the bearing spacer wound fit nicely in my f4 classics on the bones it kinda just floats.  The opening is so big. Debating if I should just pull spacers or keep them in

[Xen]

2 sessions in on bones 99a bones V5s  they are kind of a natural color but very light and i really like the shape. I get the plastic feel now but I kinda like it. They slide great on ledges and feel a little smoother than my f4 classics. I haven’t skated them in a park yet though. I can’t break into power slides like I could with classics. The bones stick more in that aspect or as of now they do.

Also where the bearing spacer wound fit nicely in my f4 classics on the bones it kinda just floats.  The opening is so big. Debating if I should just pull spacers or keep them in

The Bones V5 is tied for best shape with the V3.

I ditched my spaces on my V3s (and my tablets) as they are so skinny, the entire bearing assembly will shift a few mm each way if you try to push them down to 'touch' the spacer correctly.

[Schinken]

Has anyone tried the bones spf 81b? I'm curious if they are useable outside smooth parks. I need some bigger wheels and the only spitfire f4s available are 54 and below.

[topfrog10]

Has anyone tried the bones spf 81b? I'm curious if they are useable outside smooth parks. I need some bigger wheels and the only spitfire f4s available are 54 and below.

don't have any input on the bones but spitfire does have some 56s going around rn in the conical full and classics.
source: i just ordered some.

[Mbrimson88]

Has anyone tried the bones spf 81b? I'm curious if they are useable outside smooth parks. I need some bigger wheels and the only spitfire f4s available are 54 and below.

Had a lot when I worked at the indoor park shop and there really wasn't a whole lot of difference between the 81b and the 84b for people using them on the indoor park ramps - both were a very hard and fast wheel to skate, but maybe ever so slightly less slippery than the usual ones - exactly like a Bones wheel feels to me on most surfaces, sort of slippery on the masonite like surface but also had decent grip on the raw concrete carpark out the front which was better for me.

They are a hard fast wheel that will rattle on rough surfaces (like roads), but ride well on rough old skateparks.


NOTE: the B scale is 20 points lower than the A scale, even though there is not a measure that really goes over 100 on the A scale, they are roughly translated like this:  81b to 101a and 84b to 104a


The 80a wheels are super soft and cruiser board wheels, as per the Spitfire 80 HD (high density) but are still 80a.

[Schinken]

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Has anyone tried the bones spf 81b? I'm curious if they are useable outside smooth parks. I need some bigger wheels and the only spitfire f4s available are 54 and below.

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Had a lot when I worked at the indoor park shop and there really wasn't a whole lot of difference between the 81b and the 84b for people using them on the indoor park ramps - both were a very hard and fast wheel to skate, but maybe ever so slightly less slippery than the usual ones - exactly like a Bones wheel feels to me on most surfaces, sort of slippery on the masonite like surface but also had decent grip on the raw concrete carpark out the front which was better for me.

They are a hard fast wheel that will rattle on rough surfaces (like roads), but ride well on rough old skateparks.


NOTE: the B scale is 20 points lower than the A scale, even though there is not a measure that really goes over 100 on the A scale, they are roughly translated like this:  81b to 101a and 84b to 104a


The 80a wheels are super soft and cruiser board wheels, as per the Spitfire 80 HD (high density) but are still 80a.

So they do not perform as good as spitfire in the streets?In durometer those 81b should be comparable to 101a spitfire.

[slappy50]

i have an older set of 81b spfs in the v6 shape and tbh I really don't like them that much. they really don't like to slide - in fact, they slide less than my 97a f4 conical fulls. they are hard and chattery though, and they feel kind of plasticky to me. I tried to push some slides out of them and just stuck a bunch, so I was kind of disappointed by that. maybe they would be better in a smooth or painted bowl though, as I mainly skate street. big recommend on the 97as though, I didn't like them at first but now that they're like 6 weeks old I've grown to really like them. they feel like a good in-between wheel, though I still think 99a is better for smooth surfaces and parks.

[rocklobster]

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Has anyone tried the bones spf 81b? I'm curious if they are useable outside smooth parks. I need some bigger wheels and the only spitfire f4s available are 54 and below.

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Had a lot when I worked at the indoor park shop and there really wasn't a whole lot of difference between the 81b and the 84b for people using them on the indoor park ramps - both were a very hard and fast wheel to skate, but maybe ever so slightly less slippery than the usual ones - exactly like a Bones wheel feels to me on most surfaces, sort of slippery on the masonite like surface but also had decent grip on the raw concrete carpark out the front which was better for me.

They are a hard fast wheel that will rattle on rough surfaces (like roads), but ride well on rough old skateparks.


NOTE: the B scale is 20 points lower than the A scale, even though there is not a measure that really goes over 100 on the A scale, they are roughly translated like this:  81b to 101a and 84b to 104a


The 80a wheels are super soft and cruiser board wheels, as per the Spitfire 80 HD (high density) but are still 80a.

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So they do not perform as good as spitfire in the streets?In durometer those 81b should be comparable to 101a spitfire.

I'd rock Spitfire 101a in the street over Bones 101a / 103a any day. Bones are unforgivingly hard on anything other than smooth skate parks.

[Mbrimson88]

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Has anyone tried the bones spf 81b? I'm curious if they are useable outside smooth parks. I need some bigger wheels and the only spitfire f4s available are 54 and below.

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Had a lot when I worked at the indoor park shop and there really wasn't a whole lot of difference between the 81b and the 84b for people using them on the indoor park ramps - both were a very hard and fast wheel to skate, but maybe ever so slightly less slippery than the usual ones - exactly like a Bones wheel feels to me on most surfaces, sort of slippery on the masonite like surface but also had decent grip on the raw concrete carpark out the front which was better for me.

They are a hard fast wheel that will rattle on rough surfaces (like roads), but ride well on rough old skateparks.


NOTE: the B scale is 20 points lower than the A scale, even though there is not a measure that really goes over 100 on the A scale, they are roughly translated like this:  81b to 101a and 84b to 104a


The 80a wheels are super soft and cruiser board wheels, as per the Spitfire 80 HD (high density) but are still 80a.

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So they do not perform as good as spitfire in the streets?In durometer those 81b should be comparable to 101a spitfire.

What size mm are you thinking of going up to?

If you said 54mm are the biggest in Spitfire they have, but I know I have some bigger 56, 58 and 60mm wheels of a few brands and unless you just want to go crazy fast, I would probably think 54mm 99 duro Spitfires would be more fun overall than larger Bones wheels.

That is not to say medium size 54mm wheels are everything, as bigger wheels go faster, last longer, etc.

[Schinken]

I'm thinking of 56-60mm. The faster the better.  Currently I'm riding worn down 53 stf 99a. I liked them and thought about those 58-60 spf 81b. Maybe I should try those bones 56 v6 in 99a.

[LebowskisRug]

Regarding Loopholes I had the total opposite experience on the classic shape. I got the Krebs 52's, 2 sets from a legit shop. Both measured different- one was 50.5 and one was 51. They wore pretty well and felt better than my SML's, but I thought they were much harder to break into a slide than F4 99. Overall a good alternate. QC might be a little rough as both sets and my friend's sets had some bubbles in the sidewalls, but this really doesn't matter.

[Mbrimson88]

I'm thinking of 56-60mm. The faster the better.  Currently I'm riding worn down 53 stf 99a. I liked them and thought about those 58-60 spf 81b. Maybe I should try those bones 56 v6 in 99a.

If you are already on Bones, then you know what they feel like, so no issues there - go get the bigger Bones wheels.

It is more if people don't know how Bones wheels feel, then they often get a surprise if they are used to other wheels.

Those bigger ones will definitely go fast and last a lot longer too!

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I'm thinking of 56-60mm. The faster the better.  Currently I'm riding worn down 53 stf 99a. I liked them and thought about those 58-60 spf 81b. Maybe I should try those bones 56 v6 in 99a.

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If you are already on Bones, then you know what they feel like, so no issues there - go get the bigger Bones wheels.

It is more if people don't know how Bones wheels feel, then they often get a surprise if they are used to other wheels.

Those bigger ones will definitely go fast and last a lot longer too!

You make me curious, your post reads like bones feel like "garbage". What's the point, are spitfires, oj ... faster, smoother or more tolerant to death pebbles or...? I've never ridden other wheels than bones(besides soft wheels from various manufacturers).

I'm not planning on riding super smooth parks only. My 53 stf are down to 50-51 and start to get stuck in cracks and being stopped by pebbles, so I thought maybe those 58s spf 81b might be good for hard wheel fun on medium crusty asphalt.
Watched some Ben degros video bones Vs. f4 and he said that his bones 83b felt the fastest. 81b spf should be slightly softer I guess?

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I'm not planning on riding super smooth parks only. My 53 stf are down to 50-51 and start to get stuck in cracks and being stopped by pebbles, so I thought maybe those 58s spf 81b might be good for hard wheel fun on medium crusty asphalt.
Watched some Ben degros video bones Vs. f4 and he said that his bones 83b felt the fastest. 81b spf should be slightly softer I guess?

I haven't skated the 81B - but have boards currently built with 84B SPF, 103 STF, 99 STF, 101 F4 and 99 F4.   

As I understand it, the 81B have more grip than the 84B but are still a park wheel and not something that is going to be all that great in the street.

99 STF are meant for the street.  And they are pretty good in the park as well.  They have a bit more grip than the F4 99a if you want that - or get the F4 99a if you want to slide more.   On crappy pavement you should look for the shape that has the widest contact patch. V6 bones would be great, as would Conical Full spits.

[Mbrimson88]

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I'm thinking of 56-60mm. The faster the better.  Currently I'm riding worn down 53 stf 99a. I liked them and thought about those 58-60 spf 81b. Maybe I should try those bones 56 v6 in 99a.

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If you are already on Bones, then you know what they feel like, so no issues there - go get the bigger Bones wheels.

It is more if people don't know how Bones wheels feel, then they often get a surprise if they are used to other wheels.

Those bigger ones will definitely go fast and last a lot longer too!

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You make me curious, your post reads like bones feel like "garbage". What's the point, are spitfires, oj ... faster, smoother or more tolerant to death pebbles or...? I've never ridden other wheels than bones(besides soft wheels from various manufacturers).

I'm not planning on riding super smooth parks only. My 53 stf are down to 50-51 and start to get stuck in cracks and being stopped by pebbles, so I thought maybe those 58s spf 81b might be good for hard wheel fun on medium crusty asphalt.
Watched some Ben degros video bones Vs. f4 and he said that his bones 83b felt the fastest. 81b spf should be slightly softer I guess?

Ha yeah, more so just trying to help with the options you have at hand.

Sometimes I feel like people almost want to be told this brand or this size will work better for them, but I guess at the end of the day, if you know what the product feels like, then you are already half way there, but if you are not at all sure of what something is like (and have no way of trying it out before you buy it) then it makes it a little more difficult.

Bones and Spitfire have always been in 1st and 2nd place on the wheel ladder and even though I prefer Spitfire myself, I would never try to talk someone out of buying Bones, especially if that is more so what they have available.  Some other people I know have always been Bones only and for good reason - the longest lasting, most flatspot resistant wheel on the market for such a long time.  Since Formula Four came through, I think a lot more people have never looked back and are only riding Spitfire, which I can also understand, as I am pretty much in that category, even though I have lots of other wheel brands on other boards too.

I feel like Spitfire F4 99 duro are a lot more forgiving on rougher ground, as I skate road and carpark areas a lot on them, but that is not to say that those Bones 81b wheels will not also skate great on the same areas.

The F4 97 duro is also a good one for rougher ground and lots of people have them as their main board nowdays, but I found them to be just a little soft for what I am used to as my everyday board, otherwise I would have said those ones too.

The different brands have quite different compounds of urethane, so perform differently too, but at the end of the day, I think those Bones 81b wheels in 58 would be great for, as you said - medium crusty asphalt.

[Schinken]

All right, I ride my spare wheels and keep my eyes open for either Bones v6 or conical fulls.
Thanks

[NowhereInLife]

spf have less rebound so don't do well in the streets.  also they don't slide as well.  this is from my experience using spf 81b as a street wheel a few years back pre stf 99, which have the best roll on asphalt of all the hard wheels but can grab a little in slidy situations.

i stay on F4 99 classics these days for the slide and general all around highest marks. 

[topfrog10]

i just got some new 54mm spitfire classics in 97a and i think they might be my favorite wheel yet. they grip on park and transition well enough you feel secure while also being fast. i also rode them in the rough parking lot spot i hit and it has been a smoother ride than the 99a ones i had before this. would reccommend these as a good all around wheel so far