Wheels Thread

[dr.prestige]

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Amazing... Can anyone else think of any blast from the past wheel bullshit?

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Big ass bearings.  Bullshit? Or legit?



https://sm00thie.com/

I have these on one of my setups right now. They're fine, not that remarkably different of an experience than normal bearings but if you're interested in switching it up and trying something new they may be worth your while. If you like NFG urethane you're in luck because their wheels are poured there, which I believe are the only wheels currently available that fit the bearings.

[FuzzGNU]

I mean the whole reason why Bones Super Six Swiss are supposedly better than Swiss is the larger ball bearings. I assume the larger the balls, the more dirt they can tolerate before needing cleaning? Or at least minimizing the effect that dirt has on the roll?

[LebowskisRug]

I remember on the first Darkstar cored wheels the core was super hard and shiny and if you didn't ratchet down your axle nuts the bearing seat would slowly get worn larger and larger to the point where the bearing would move back and forth at will. My buddy had a set and left his axle nuts decently lose and if you rode his board the wheel and the bearings moved side to side. Somehow he learned switch tre flips off a bump gap on those. The final straw was we were bombing a hill and he went to power slide and the rear wheels literally came off the core.

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Wheel tech…
I had some of the spitfire firelites and had a session I still think about, 20 plus ish later. The 2nd best day I’ve ever had. Wild.

[manysnakes]

I mean the whole reason why Bones Super Six Swiss are supposedly better than Swiss is the larger ball bearings. I assume the larger the balls, the more dirt they can tolerate before needing cleaning? Or at least minimizing the effect that dirt has on the roll?

Yes, generally speaking, the larger the bearing, the lower the friction, and the greater the load capacity and overall strength.

[rocklobster]

Since we're talking about bearings and ball sizes, I bought a set of these way back (mid 2000s) and they were surprisingly good.



Got the ABEC 9 ones because why the fuck not.

Did hold up much better than the bearings of the time which were almost always ass. I'm looking at you Quik and Speed Demon.

[Xen]

LOL wtf... while looking at my bucket of old wheels I found a set of these (or something very similar, there is still a flake of the orange flame graphic still on one of them).



Apparently they're called "Spitfire Hardline Firelite Wheels"

They're kind of sick looking tbh, but I completely forgot about those. Ohhhhh the things we did to shave off grams of weight when we were kids.

I just measured these random blank CCS wheels I had and they were all the way down to ~44mm before I swapped them out, haha.

Next time I am able to I will have to go back and figure out all of the wheels I had.

Worst wheels ever, cores would pop out so fast.

Welcome Orbs got you covered tho.

[PuffinMuffin]

I skated the new Bones wheels today. The 93a's in 52mm handled varying degrees of blown-out rustbelt crust with surprising ease. My feet felt comfy and I pushed less to maintain the same amount of speed as 99a F4s. They also slide very well. Spitfire has a real problem on their hands. I don't see myself going back to F4s, and I previously felt they were the pinnacle of urethane. I'm amazed a 52mm skates so well around here.

[MysticalTypeExperience]

Did you buy them from kam at the skate one forums?

I was really surprised when I went to those forums today and found a bunch of information that I hadn't seen on SLAP at all. Like the fact that they are or were selling the prototypes. And those RKP trucks are indeed a prototype truck that Powell is testing.

[Frank and Fred]

These new Bones wheels are starting to sound more and more intriguing. I'm curious if Spitfire is firing up a response in the 80a to 95a region?

be awhile before I purchase any wheels as I have a few F4 sets on ice.

[GardenSkater77]

I skated the new Bones wheels today. The 93a's in 52mm handled varying degrees of blown-out rustbelt crust with surprising ease. My feet felt comfy and I pushed less to maintain the same amount of speed as 99a F4s. They also slide very well. Spitfire has a real problem on their hands. I don't see myself going back to F4s, and I previously felt they were the pinnacle of urethane. I'm amazed a 52mm skates so well around here.

Hey…where did you get these wheels? They are not on the Powell website. As for softer wheels, it is amazing how fast my Bones Rough Riders are. I am definitely sold on Bones/Powell Peralta for all my 93a-80a wheel needs.

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I skated the new Bones wheels today. The 93a's in 52mm handled varying degrees of blown-out rustbelt crust with surprising ease. My feet felt comfy and I pushed less to maintain the same amount of speed as 99a F4s. They also slide very well. Spitfire has a real problem on their hands. I don't see myself going back to F4s, and I previously felt they were the pinnacle of urethane. I'm amazed a 52mm skates so well around here.

I think I remember you using thunders…and 52 is such a sweet spot wheel size. If 52 are now viable for all around riding I’m gonna be hyped

[MysticalTypeExperience]

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I skated the new Bones wheels today. The 93a's in 52mm handled varying degrees of blown-out rustbelt crust with surprising ease. My feet felt comfy and I pushed less to maintain the same amount of speed as 99a F4s. They also slide very well. Spitfire has a real problem on their hands. I don't see myself going back to F4s, and I previously felt they were the pinnacle of urethane. I'm amazed a 52mm skates so well around here.

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Hey…where did you get these wheels? They are not on the Powell website. As for softer wheels, it is amazing how fast my Bones Rough Riders are. I am definitely sold on Bones/Powell Peralta for all my 93a-80a wheel needs.

Email [email protected]

They are $30 shipped or cheaper for multiple sets

[GardenSkater77]

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I skated the new Bones wheels today. The 93a's in 52mm handled varying degrees of blown-out rustbelt crust with surprising ease. My feet felt comfy and I pushed less to maintain the same amount of speed as 99a F4s. They also slide very well. Spitfire has a real problem on their hands. I don't see myself going back to F4s, and I previously felt they were the pinnacle of urethane. I'm amazed a 52mm skates so well around here.

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Hey…where did you get these wheels? They are not on the Powell website. As for softer wheels, it is amazing how fast my Bones Rough Riders are. I am definitely sold on Bones/Powell Peralta for all my 93a-80a wheel needs.

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Email [email protected]

They are $30 shipped or cheaper for multiple sets

Great. Thanks. Are they looking for feedback? I’ll sing their praises in the wheel thread to help get these to market.

[Xen]

Did you buy them from kam at the skate one forums?

I was really surprised when I went to those forums today and found a bunch of information that I hadn't seen on SLAP at all. Like the fact that they are or were selling the prototypes. And those RKP trucks are indeed a prototype truck that Powell is testing.

There are other worlds than SLAP.

[Xen]

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Tried a friend's board who had the new formula snot wheels. They slide way, way more than the old formula and have a totally different, higher-pitched bark.

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so anyone else skate the new snot formula before i bite the bullet and try them anyway?

edit: got em anyway

Picked up a set of the cored 52s. Still getting through the tread so I'm not sliding (based on prior exp with treaded wheels I won't slide until it's gone/wheel is broken in for fear of early flatspots). Fucking hate treads on wheels come on people...

Out of the gate they are much harder feeling than the first clear snots I had (felt like total shit/spongy, sticky team wheel), these are hard, rattle your teeth hard, and bark; with tread they remind me of the OJ Elite grip but a bit easier when pushed (like I said I wasn't pushing them to slide)...and right up there with them on hardness.

They don't feel like 'hard creative thane' either could be due to the core? But they have that Creative thane vibe Shape-wise, they're like slightly thinner bones V1. Time will tell but I like them so far (and I'm not expecting an F4 slide).

[rocklobster]

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Did you buy them from kam at the skate one forums?

I was really surprised when I went to those forums today and found a bunch of information that I hadn't seen on SLAP at all. Like the fact that they are or were selling the prototypes. And those RKP trucks are indeed a prototype truck that Powell is testing.

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There are other worlds than SLAP.

No, Slap is the only echo chamber I need TYVM

[PuffinMuffin]

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Did you buy them from kam at the skate one forums?

I was really surprised when I went to those forums today and found a bunch of information that I hadn't seen on SLAP at all. Like the fact that they are or were selling the prototypes. And those RKP trucks are indeed a prototype truck that Powell is testing.

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There are other worlds than SLAP.

Those posts were by @backinaction and those RKP trucks have been talked about in the Truck Set-ups thread for two pages.

[igrindtwinkies]

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I skated the new Bones wheels today. The 93a's in 52mm handled varying degrees of blown-out rustbelt crust with surprising ease. My feet felt comfy and I pushed less to maintain the same amount of speed as 99a F4s. They also slide very well. Spitfire has a real problem on their hands. I don't see myself going back to F4s, and I previously felt they were the pinnacle of urethane. I'm amazed a 52mm skates so well around here.

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Hey…where did you get these wheels? They are not on the Powell website. As for softer wheels, it is amazing how fast my Bones Rough Riders are. I am definitely sold on Bones/Powell Peralta for all my 93a-80a wheel needs.

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Email [email protected]

They are $30 shipped or cheaper for multiple sets

I bought 5 sets of 56 mm 93 a's for 100.  He gave me an extra set of those plus 2 sets of cored 54 93a's and two sets of 52 mm 90 a's.  If I don't give any away, theyd probably last me the rest of my life.  I'm going to try them out this coming week on some crusty midwest spots.

[FuzzGNU]

I bought 5 sets of 56 mm 93 a's for 100.  He gave me an extra set of those plus 2 sets of cored 54 93a's and two sets of 52 mm 90 a's.  If I don't give any away, theyd probably last me the rest of my life.  I'm going to try them out this coming week on some crusty midwest spots.

Damn, I should really do this too! I'm going to have to sell some of these extra wheels I have laying around first.

If anyone has any interest in buying any of these, I will put some of these on the classified board (or however people swap gear on here), I guess:

Brand New (in packaging):
Bones STF 103a - 54mm V4 (Wide aka Radial)
Spitfire F4 99a - 56mm Conical Full

Like New (a few light sessions):
Bones STF 99a - 55mm V5 (Sidecut aka Conical)

Lightly used (Manufacturing defect: 2 wheels wobble slightly, 1 wobbles noticeably):
Spitfire F4 99a - 56mm Radial Full Eternals (Worn down to 55mm)

Moderately used:
Spitfire F4 97a - 54mm Conical Full (Worn down to 52mm? Graphic still mostly intact)

[munchbox]

okay but how do the 93a bones slide on ledges and rails?
blunts, tails, crooks, things of those sorts

[Xen]

okay but how do the 93a bones slide on ledges and rails?
blunts, tails, crooks, things of those sorts

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Seems like they might be a just a tad stickier/slower than a 'regular' wheel?

[FuzzGNU]

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okay but how do the 93a bones slide on ledges and rails?
blunts, tails, crooks, things of those sorts

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@off back a few pages:



Seems like they might be a just a tad stickier/slower than a 'regular' wheel?

Yeah "regular" in quotes is exactly what I was thinking too. It seems like all these YouTube vloggers trying these say they usually skate 101-103a and mostly do smooth California park skating. I don't think prestine SoCal park/spot skaters are the people who will benefit from these.

It seems like I've heard 3 perspectives 1) they are fine 2) nose/tail slides are sticky but rest are fine 3) pinched grinds are sticky but rest are fine.

Again though, if this is coming from people who usually skate Bones 103a, then of course it's going to feel "stickier", so would F4 99a.

[manysnakes]

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Did you buy them from kam at the skate one forums?

I was really surprised when I went to those forums today and found a bunch of information that I hadn't seen on SLAP at all. Like the fact that they are or were selling the prototypes. And those RKP trucks are indeed a prototype truck that Powell is testing.

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There are other worlds than SLAP.

There's no other skate forum where a gossip thread about Tyshawn Jones turns into a conversation about cast iron within one page though.

[manysnakes]

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okay but how do the 93a bones slide on ledges and rails?
blunts, tails, crooks, things of those sorts

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Seems like they might be a just a tad stickier/slower than a 'regular' wheel?

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Yeah "regular" in quotes is exactly what I was thinking too. It seems like all these YouTube vloggers trying these say they usually skate 101-103a and mostly do smooth California park skating. I don't think prestine SoCal park/spot skaters are the people who will benefit from these.

It seems like I've heard 3 perspectives 1) they are fine 2) nose/tail slides are sticky but rest are fine 3) pinched grinds are sticky but rest are fine.

Again though, if this is coming from people who usually skate Bones 103a, then of course it's going to feel "stickier", so would F4 99a.

Put me in the #3 camp. Sticky on pinch crooks but fine for everything else. I think it might be technique, too. And of course, going too slow.

[chinotto]

I know this thread is now all about the new bones formula, I'm definitely ordering it to try but I just tried the new ricta crystal cores 95a which is ricta's attempt to make an all-terrain wheel and I think they very much succeeded at that. It feels harder than my spitfire tablets f4 99a and slides almost just as good but at the same time they eat cracks, rough ground and pebbles like a soft wheel would. They keep their speed on crust and feel super smooth in the park. Also, they drastically reduced the amount of pushing in the park compared to spitfire f4 99. I also have oj nomads and the rictas are definitely better than those. Anyone compared the new bones formula and rictas 95a?

[Easy Slider]

Please stop quoting that thumbnail I can‘t browse this thread anymore.

[FuzzGNU]

Please stop quoting that thumbnail I can‘t browse this thread anymore.

😯⚙️↙️

[Musicaldeath107]

I'm jumping on the new Bones hype train.

Asked for a set of the 93A, they tossed in a set of 90A as well.  Both of my sets are cored.

Tested em at my flat ground spot which has both a smooth concrete patio and crusty east coast asphalt.

The 90A set is definitely a little too soft for an everyday all around use but definitely wanna try them at the DIY which is very crusty. They roll very well even on smooth concrete but they FEEL soft. They powerslide better than you'd think they would. I could do backside 180 reverts pretty easily.

The 93A however are amazing for every day all surfaces so far. On the smooth concrete they rolled and felt very similar to F4 99A.  On the asphalt they felt more along the lines the 97A spits or maybe slightly harder NFG 95A. Not quite as cushioned ride wise but in how they held speed.  They felt equally as good on both surfaces and they powerslide and revert like a hard wheel.


Gonna test both of them at the DIY spot hopefully this week for some grinds and slides plus serious crust.

[iw0]

The 93A however are amazing for every day all surfaces so far. On the smooth concrete they rolled and felt very similar to F4 99A.  On the asphalt they felt more along the lines the 97A spits or maybe slightly harder NFG 95A. Not quite as cushioned ride wise but in how they held speed.  They felt equally as good on both surfaces and they powerslide and revert like a hard wheel.

finally the comparison i was waiting for! thanks for the write up