Wheels Thread

[tzhangdox]

Skated some atf shape 95a bones with the hubs today, schoolyard, black top asphalt. Unlike the 93a and 90a which are well in hybrid and cruiser wheel territory respectively, these definitely feel and sound like a traditional hard wheel.

They basically feel like a 99a formula four, but maybe very slightly worse if we're splitting hairs. Compared to my friends' 99a 53mm radials, the bones felt maybe the slightest bit harder if anything at all (weird because these are 95a), and slid ever so slightly worse (but definitely better than a 97a f4). When it comes to maintaining speed I don't really notice a difference, pretty hard to tell, they're both good quality wheels and neither feels slow.

I don't think the cores should necessarily make too much of a difference here, I did a slide test with my hands on this butter box so the cores shouldn't have affected the slide feel in that scenario vs the f4s which fared slightly better.

This was my first session on them so maybe they're going to break in more and feel better than f4s. The more difficult slide might also be due to the fact that these wheels are wide as fuck, like noticeably wider than an equivalent 54mm conical full which is already wider than I like. Felt like I had dumbbells on the ends of my axles when doing flip tricks.

I also haven't tested them on a variety of surfaces yet. But based on my first impressions, these are a very good wheel but I'm not seeing any major reasons to pick them over a 99a f4, though that may change as I skate them more.

[tuesday]

Still no pictures of the Bones? Slap is slacking. Hope they got the old experimental graphic.

[FuzzGNU]

Still no pictures of the Bones? Slap is slacking. Hope they got the old experimental graphic.

I posted them many many pages ago, but mine are blank so there is not much to see.

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=82118.msg3803767#msg3803767

[FuzzGNU]

Skated some atf shape 95a bones with the hubs today, schoolyard, black top asphalt. Unlike the 93a and 90a which are well in hybrid and cruiser wheel territory respectively, these definitely feel and sound like a traditional hard wheel.

They basically feel like a 99a formula four, but maybe very slightly worse if we're splitting hairs. Compared to my friends' 99a 53mm radials, the bones felt maybe the slightest bit harder if anything at all (weird because these are 95a), and slid ever so slightly worse (but definitely better than a 97a f4). When it comes to maintaining speed I don't really notice a difference, pretty hard to tell, they're both good quality wheels and neither feels slow.

I don't think the cores should necessarily make too much of a difference here, I did a slide test with my hands on this butter box so the cores shouldn't have affected the slide feel in that scenario vs the f4s which fared slightly better.

This was my first session on them so maybe they're going to break in more and feel better than f4s. The more difficult slide might also be due to the fact that these wheels are wide as fuck, like noticeably wider than an equivalent 54mm conical full which is already wider than I like. Felt like I had dumbbells on the ends of my axles when doing flip tricks.

I also haven't tested them on a variety of surfaces yet. But based on my first impressions, these are a very good wheel but I'm not seeing any major reasons to pick them over a 99a f4, though that may change as I skate them more.

I know you said you rode the 93a with the core and it felt really soft. That's bizarre, and very interesting to hear. 93a without the core feels only very slightly softer than F4 99a. They don't feel even feel like a hyrbid cruiser wheel AT ALL, just a straight up trick wheel. While the 90a without a core however feels like an unapologetic cruiser wheel (down to the chunking issues, from what I've seen).

I think the cores really do effect this formula, but its so hard to predict in what ways on a duro to duro basis. However, I really do suspect they universally affect the ability to initiate powerslides though, because the 97a cored and 95a cored were notably harder to powerslide than the 93a without a core (and even the 90a without a core!). And it sounds like people who've tried the 93a WITH a core have not enjoyed the wheel very much, which says A LOT because it seems like everyone who has tried 93a WITHOUT the core has gushed over it as much as I have.

I think people in this thread have said the 95a without the cores slide well? And don't feel as rock hard like 95a cored we've experienced? I really want to try the 95a without a core now based on what has been said in this thread.

Just to distill my sentiments on what I've tried:
- The 97a WITH core are nearly unskateable in many respects, but was fun to mess around on. Vibrate your feet to hell.
- The 95a WITH core are a decent wheel but struggled with pebbles/cracks, and powerslide initiation.
- The 93a no core are my favorite wheel of all time. Period.
- The 90a no core are a cruiser (hybrid?) wheel that slides alright, but almost feels like its made obsolete by the 93a's extreme competence. Would probably make a really solid filmer wheel due to how quiet they are. Their powerslides are even near silent at times.

[LebowskisRug]

I agree with @tzhangdox on how the 93a feel and think that they are like a slightly harder cruiser wheel. They powerslide and then stick, and don't necessarily slide that great but not bad either. They're slow as shit at a nice skatepark and great on anything else. I don't know why you keep saying otherwise and think anyone who would get these over 99F4 would be a bit disappointed in the end.

[tuesday]

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Still no pictures of the Bones? Slap is slacking. Hope they got the old experimental graphic.

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I posted them many many pages ago, but mine are blank so there is not much to see.

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=82118.msg3803767#msg3803767

@FuzzGNU thanks!

[tzhangdox]

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Skated some atf shape 95a bones with the hubs today, schoolyard, black top asphalt. Unlike the 93a and 90a which are well in hybrid and cruiser wheel territory respectively, these definitely feel and sound like a traditional hard wheel.

They basically feel like a 99a formula four, but maybe very slightly worse if we're splitting hairs. Compared to my friends' 99a 53mm radials, the bones felt maybe the slightest bit harder if anything at all (weird because these are 95a), and slid ever so slightly worse (but definitely better than a 97a f4). When it comes to maintaining speed I don't really notice a difference, pretty hard to tell, they're both good quality wheels and neither feels slow.

I don't think the cores should necessarily make too much of a difference here, I did a slide test with my hands on this butter box so the cores shouldn't have affected the slide feel in that scenario vs the f4s which fared slightly better.

This was my first session on them so maybe they're going to break in more and feel better than f4s. The more difficult slide might also be due to the fact that these wheels are wide as fuck, like noticeably wider than an equivalent 54mm conical full which is already wider than I like. Felt like I had dumbbells on the ends of my axles when doing flip tricks.

I also haven't tested them on a variety of surfaces yet. But based on my first impressions, these are a very good wheel but I'm not seeing any major reasons to pick them over a 99a f4, though that may change as I skate them more.

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I know you said you rode the 93a with the core and it felt really soft. That's bizarre, and very interesting to hear. 93a without the core feels only very slightly softer than F4 99a. They don't feel even feel like a hyrbid cruiser wheel AT ALL, just a straight up trick wheel. While the 90a without a core however feels like an unapologetic cruiser wheel (down to the chunking issues, from what I've seen).

I think the cores really do effect this formula, but its so hard to predict in what ways on a duro to duro basis. However, I really do suspect they universally affect the ability to initiate powerslides though, because the 97a cored and 95a cored were notably harder to powerslide than the 93a without a core (and even the 90a without a core!). And it sounds like people who've tried the 93a WITH a core have not enjoyed the wheel very much, which says A LOT because it seems like everyone who has tried 93a WITHOUT the core has gushed over it as much as I have.

I think people in this thread have said the 95a without the cores slide well? And don't feel as rock hard like 95a cored we've experienced? I really want to try the 95a without a core now based on what has been said in this thread.

Just to distill my sentiments on what I've tried:
- The 97a WITH core are nearly unskateable in many respects, but was fun to mess around on. Vibrate your feet to hell.
- The 95a WITH core are a decent wheel but struggled with pebbles/cracks, and powerslide initiation.
- The 93a no core are my favorite wheel of all time. Period.
- The 90a no core are a cruiser (hybrid?) wheel that slides alright, but almost feels like its made obsolete by the 93a's extreme competence. Would probably make a really solid filmer wheel due to how quiet they are. Their powerslides are even near silent at times.

I totally believe that the cores affect the feel of the wheel, but there's no way it should affect the 93a this much, especially since the cores should make the wheel feel harder according to the powell guy, and we've found the cored 93a to feel like a soft hybrid wheel. Maybe there's a lot of manufacturing variance with these prototypes, or they straight up just labelled some of the packages wrong.

Don't get me wrong, I think the 93as are really good. Super impressed they were able to make wheels like the 90s and 93s that are soft/hybrid, handle rough ground incredibly, but still slide. Its just they lack the feel and response of a hard trick wheel and I don't think I'm willing to get used to that. The 95a with cores are still very good, just don't see why I'd ride these over f4s, they feel pretty similar.

[FuzzGNU]

I agree with @tzhangdox on how the 93a feel and think that they are like a slightly harder cruiser wheel. They powerslide and then stick, and don't necessarily slide that great but not bad either. They're slow as shit at a nice skatepark and great on anything else. I don't know why you keep saying otherwise and think anyone who would get these over 99F4 would be a bit disappointed in the end.

I keep saying it because it is completely disconnected from the objective reality of the wheels I have been skating. Like some of the descriptions people are giving of the cored 93a are objectively different from the wheels I am skating, not even a matter of opinion or perception.

These things definitely don't stick. They slide nearly as well as F4 99a. They are NOT slow as shit at a skatepark (90a WERE very slow on flat, however). The 93a without a core that I had are at the minimum 1:1 with F4 99a in pretty much every way except for the slide initiation being slightly more difficult on the 93a. Aside from that one factor (and grinds) they equal or better them in every other category.

I totally believe that the cores affect the feel of the wheel, but there's no way it should affect the 93a this much, especially since the cores should make the wheel feel harder according to the powell guy, and we've found the cored 93a to feel like a soft hybrid wheel. Maybe there's a lot of manufacturing variance with these prototypes, or they straight up just labelled some of the packages wrong.

Don't get me wrong, I think the 93as are really good. Super impressed they were able to make wheels like the 90s and 93s that are soft/hybrid, handle rough ground incredibly, but still slide. Its just they lack the feel and response of a hard trick wheel and I don't think I'm willing to get used to that. The 95a with cores are still very good, just don't see why I'd ride these over f4s, they feel pretty similar.

Yeah the reason I keep pointing out that the cores make a difference is because that is completely disconnected from what my 93a without a core feel like, so it HAS to be either the cores or a mislabeled 90a cored. I don't think its out of the question that the core could make the 93a feel mushy or something, but that is certainly not what the uncored 93a feel like at all.

You keep saying cruiser and hybrid and the 93a without the core do not feel like a hybrid wheel at all. They are very responsive. They only have slightly less groundfeel than F4 99a. They aren't muted (or bouncy) like F4 97a, for example. I would consider the F4 97a a hybrid wheel, and these are not that. They slide great, they don't stick (which is what happens with the slide for the 95a cored, for example).

I just don't understand how you are talking so confidently about cores vs. uncored when we know this formula relies on vibration for slides. Its clear that the cores make things harder to slide at the very least. It makes sense since you are essentially putting a capo/damper on the wheel or something with the core being harder and having a different vibration frequency. Why would you think that the core effecting things magically no longer applies to 93a cored, right?

[tzhangdox]

I don't think that mine is a mislabelled 90a. Because I had a set of cored 90as too and they were even softer and quieter than the cored 93s.

Dude, I'm conceding that the cores definitely have an effect on how the wheels feel, its literally the first sentence you quoted. But even if we remove slides from the equation completely, me and @LebowskisRug both say that it feels like a slightly harder, hybrid cruiser wheel thats bouncy and muted when it comes to purely riding whereas you say that they basically feel like a f4 99a, harder than 97a. Very odd because if anything the cores should make the wheels feel harder.

Not trying to invalidate your experience. Its probably down to manufacturing variance, different batches over time, or some sort of mislabelling on one of our ends, that drastic of a difference in our perceptions of hardness is seriously unlikely to be solely due to the cores. If you're willing to post a clip of you skating them, do some powerslides, reverts, pop a few tricks etc I'd be curious to see how your uncored 93as ride and sound. Happy to do the same

[LebowskisRug]

There isn't an actual valid engineering reason cited that the cores would effect how the wheel slides. Cores of wheels don't flex much and they aren't going to effect vibration transfer that much. They especially wouldn't make a wheel feel softer and slower.

I can say objectively that they slide worse. I dropped in from the same point and slappy noseslid and tailslid the same box 3 times each way on the 93 and 99 F4. The Bones slowed down dramatically by the end of the box. The Spits were tested second and there was less wax and they carried the slide better.

Next I averaged 3 distances from the same drop in going slightly uphill. The F4 were dramatically faster. I didn't even have to push to hit and grind and entire box whereas the Bones slowed down so much that I had to push about 10-15 feet from the box. Also on crooks the 93 slowed down and squealed on the metal coping. I would start the grind at the very end of the ledge and the Bones would grind about 3/4 of the distance before I need to pop out.

Relying on vibrations might be how they slide but doesn't explain how the few people that have tested these at a smooth area found em bouncy and slower. I honestly don't mind the bounce.

Same exact bearings in both wheels, same board, no wind on a calm day. So far I think I'm the only person that has tested the two compounds back to back at spots with different surface types.

[Xen]

Cored wheels (supposedly) provide less flex on landings/rolling over shit; that’s why you see them primarily in softer/cruiser wheels. Less deformation around the bearing (seat).

They also provide (usually) a uniform/flat bearing seat.

Autobahn, at one point, had both hard inner cores (101?) with softer thane outers (97a?) as well as softer inner cores (97a) and 101 duro thane. The former were supposed reduce vibration for an easier ride but still skate like a hard wheel, not so dissimilar to what bones is trying (but with out a special anti-vibe formula).

I’ve some cored 99a ricta on hand and they feel no different than the regular ricta I have, tho I’m not hucking so maybe I can’t feel the difference. They do, however, feel harder than 99a spits or stfs but softer than 101 Ricta.

[FuzzGNU]

Cored wheels (supposedly) provide less flex on landings/rolling over shit; that’s why you see them primarily in softer/cruiser wheels. Less deformation around the bearing (seat).

They also provide (usually) a uniform/flat bearing seat.

Autobahn, at one point, had both hard inner cores (101?) with softer thane outers (97a?) as well as softer inner cores (97a) and 101 duro thane. The former were supposed reduce vibration for an easier ride but still skate like a hard wheel, not so dissimilar to what bones is trying (but with out a special anti-vibe formula).

I’ve some cored 99a ricta on hand and they feel no different than the regular ricta I have, tho I’m not hucking so maybe I can’t feel the difference. They do, however, feel harder than 99a spits or stfs but softer than 101 Ricta.

(This is kind of a reply to all three of you)

Yes, while I agree with most of the above sentiments, even Bones doesn't fully know how this stuff interacts, hence the test batches. Since this is a really unique formula, all bets are off. Especially when this formula relies on specific vibration characteristics, even musician knows how the science of vibrations is very particular.

Again, not all polyurethane are made the same. Not all cores are made the same (duro and formula). Not all cores are even binded the same. As far as I know the Bones uses a (proprietary?) method of chemically bonding their "hubs" to their wheels.

We can't just blanket apply how other cores work on other polyurethanes to how these cores effect this formula. We are talking about things like 95a wheels that feel like ~101 wheels. We can't really take anything for granted in that regard.


Its interesting to hear about those Ricta wheels you are talking about being anti-vibration, since these are seemingly leaning into the vibration (the opposite).

[rocklobster]

Cored wheels (supposedly) provide less flex on landings/rolling over shit; that’s why you see them primarily in softer/cruiser wheels. Less deformation around the bearing (seat).

They also provide (usually) a uniform/flat bearing seat.

Autobahn, at one point, had both hard inner cores (101?) with softer thane outers (97a?) as well as softer inner cores (97a) and 101 duro thane. The former were supposed reduce vibration for an easier ride but still skate like a hard wheel, not so dissimilar to what bones is trying (but with out a special anti-vibe formula).

Rode a set of the 54mm Dual Duro 101a (think it was the Street Slims) ones recently, lasted 30 min in the session before going back to F4. The park wasn't crusty and the ground was good (by street standards) but I was losing so much speed. Not sure if it was the skinny profile or a mediocre formula, even my worn down 50mm F4 fared much better.



Even those these are listed as Torus (wider) shape, they still look skinny in pictures.



Would like to see which company can come up with a skinny wheel that handles crust and slides fast, sounds like an impossible task for an incredibly niche audience.

[JANUS]

Does anybody know if the preproduction 93a wheels are USA only? I’d like to give them a whirl on some shit Canadian pavement. Or must I DM them like a man?

[Sundaynuggets]

I’m curious to try out the 90a without the core if anyone doesn’t want theirs. Up for trade or to buy

[Sloppy Krooks]

Does anybody know if the preproduction 93a wheels are USA only? I’d like to give them a whirl on some shit Canadian pavement. Or must I DM them like a man?

It’s a bit pricier to ship to Canada, but they can do it.
I’m getting 2 sets sent there. Shipping is about $20-25 for two sets of wheels.

[DirtCat]

I threw the 93a 52mm wheels on the egg last night, skating a parking garage with fairly rough concrete (like a textured, skin  grater surface, similar to most ditches I skate).  I'm impressed.  They definitely "feel" similar to a 97a but soak up more of the rough surface if that makes sense.  Took a little bit more effort to powerslide, but slappy noseslides felt the same.  Whenever these get a real release I'll grab some in a V1 or V4 shape if they exist.

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I threw the 93a 52mm wheels on the egg last night, skating a parking garage with fairly rough concrete (like a textured, skin  grater surface, similar to most ditches I skate).  I'm impressed.  They definitely "feel" similar to a 97a but soak up more of the rough surface if that makes sense.  Took a little bit more effort to powerslide, but slappy noseslides felt the same.  Whenever these get a real release I'll grab some in a V1 or V4 shape if they exist.

I’ve read this far to see this.
I skate low trucks, and want a 52 that can handle the wack streets. Will try in a classic shape.

[LebowskisRug]

They handle rough streets well. They're like a slightly harder keyframe that can slide a bit. To me the slide feels a bit icy and uncontrolled but that could be getting used to a different feel.

[mynameisnotjeff]

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Cored wheels (supposedly) provide less flex on landings/rolling over shit; that’s why you see them primarily in softer/cruiser wheels. Less deformation around the bearing (seat).

They also provide (usually) a uniform/flat bearing seat.

Autobahn, at one point, had both hard inner cores (101?) with softer thane outers (97a?) as well as softer inner cores (97a) and 101 duro thane. The former were supposed reduce vibration for an easier ride but still skate like a hard wheel, not so dissimilar to what bones is trying (but with out a special anti-vibe formula).

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Rode a set of the 54mm Dual Duro 101a (think it was the Street Slims) ones recently, lasted 30 min in the session before going back to F4. The park wasn't crusty and the ground was good (by street standards) but I was losing so much speed. Not sure if it was the skinny profile or a mediocre formula, even my worn down 50mm F4 fared much better.



Even those these are listed as Torus (wider) shape, they still look skinny in pictures.



Would like to see which company can come up with a skinny wheel that handles crust and slides fast, sounds like an impossible task for an incredibly niche audience.

I had a set of those slims.
The formula is bad. They sucked and I took them off and went with my old set of wheels.

[FuzzGNU]

Does anybody know if the preproduction 93a wheels are USA only? I’d like to give them a whirl on some shit Canadian pavement. Or must I DM them like a man?

I think these things are about to be released and their preproduction stash has been whittled down to just the cored wheels. I would just wait personally. These should be out sometime this year. Sooner than later I hope.

I’m curious to try out the 90a without the core if anyone doesn’t want theirs. Up for trade or to buy

I might be down to part ways with mine in a trade. They are V6 54mm. Only skated them once or twice before putting the 93a back on so they are like new.

I also have some narrower smaller diameter ones WITH cores I haven't opened yet in 90a/93a V2 52mm.

I've got too many wheels at this point so it would have to be a trade for something else. DVD? Some wide 8.5+ trucks? Something else that is rare/an oddity?

[tzhangdox]

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Does anybody know if the preproduction 93a wheels are USA only? I’d like to give them a whirl on some shit Canadian pavement. Or must I DM them like a man?

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I think these things are about to be released and they're preproduction stash has wittled down to just the cored wheels. I would just wait personally. These should be out sometime this year. Sooner than later I hope.

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I’m curious to try out the 90a without the core if anyone doesn’t want theirs. Up for trade or to buy

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I might be down to part with mine in a trade. They are V6 54mm. Only skated them once or twice before putting the 93a back on so they are like new.

I also have some narrower smaller diameter ones with cores I haven't opened yet in 90a/93a V2 52mm.

I've got too many wheels at this point so it would have to be a trade for something else. DVD? Some wide 8.5+ trucks? Something else that is rare/an oddity?

Are your 52mm v2 93a cored or no cores?

[FuzzGNU]

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Does anybody know if the preproduction 93a wheels are USA only? I’d like to give them a whirl on some shit Canadian pavement. Or must I DM them like a man?

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I think these things are about to be released and they're preproduction stash has wittled down to just the cored wheels. I would just wait personally. These should be out sometime this year. Sooner than later I hope.

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I’m curious to try out the 90a without the core if anyone doesn’t want theirs. Up for trade or to buy

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I might be down to part with mine in a trade. They are V6 54mm. Only skated them once or twice before putting the 93a back on so they are like new.

I also have some narrower smaller diameter ones with cores I haven't opened yet in 90a/93a V2 52mm.

I've got too many wheels at this point so it would have to be a trade for something else. DVD? Some wide 8.5+ trucks? Something else that is rare/an oddity?

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Are your 52mm v2 93a cored or no cores?

Cored.

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Does anybody know if the preproduction 93a wheels are USA only? I’d like to give them a whirl on some shit Canadian pavement. Or must I DM them like a man?

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I think these things are about to be released and they're preproduction stash has wittled down to just the cored wheels. I would just wait personally. These should be out sometime this year. Sooner than later I hope.

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I’m curious to try out the 90a without the core if anyone doesn’t want theirs. Up for trade or to buy

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I might be down to part with mine in a trade. They are V6 54mm. Only skated them once or twice before putting the 93a back on so they are like new.

I also have some narrower smaller diameter ones with cores I haven't opened yet in 90a/93a V2 52mm.

I've got too many wheels at this point so it would have to be a trade for something else. DVD? Some wide 8.5+ trucks? Something else that is rare/an oddity?

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Are your 52mm v2 93a cored or no cores?

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Cored.

Ah never mind I already have those. You should try them out though to and let us know how you find them since the cores clearly make a significant difference

[Xen]

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Cored wheels (supposedly) provide less flex on landings/rolling over shit; that’s why you see them primarily in softer/cruiser wheels. Less deformation around the bearing (seat).

They also provide (usually) a uniform/flat bearing seat.

Autobahn, at one point, had both hard inner cores (101?) with softer thane outers (97a?) as well as softer inner cores (97a) and 101 duro thane. The former were supposed reduce vibration for an easier ride but still skate like a hard wheel, not so dissimilar to what bones is trying (but with out a special anti-vibe formula).

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Rode a set of the 54mm Dual Duro 101a (think it was the Street Slims) ones recently, lasted 30 min in the session before going back to F4. The park wasn't crusty and the ground was good (by street standards) but I was losing so much speed. Not sure if it was the skinny profile or a mediocre formula, even my worn down 50mm F4 fared much better.



Even those these are listed as Torus (wider) shape, they still look skinny in pictures.



Would like to see which company can come up with a skinny wheel that handles crust and slides fast, sounds like an impossible task for an incredibly niche audience.

Yep, those are the jawns., the ABX.  In theory they might have worked with a better thane, they were just generic creative pours with cores; nothing special. Plus, you had F4s out….let’s face it they are the wheel to beat cores or no.

The rictas just cite a better bearing seat and less deformation on landings. Same old ricta thane; for 99a they’re pretty hard.

Agree all bets are off with the Powell thane, they trying something wholly new in that regard so it makes sense to try core and non cores with it.

[chinotto]

Would like to see which company can come up with a skinny wheel that handles crust and slides fast, sounds like an impossible task for an incredibly niche audience.

Coreless V1 new bones formula 95a is exactly that. If you can deal with how quiet it is.

[Sundaynuggets]

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Does anybody know if the preproduction 93a wheels are USA only? I’d like to give them a whirl on some shit Canadian pavement. Or must I DM them like a man?

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I think these things are about to be released and their preproduction stash has been whittled down to just the cored wheels. I would just wait personally. These should be out sometime this year. Sooner than later I hope.

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I’m curious to try out the 90a without the core if anyone doesn’t want theirs. Up for trade or to buy

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I might be down to part ways with mine in a trade. They are V6 54mm. Only skated them once or twice before putting the 93a back on so they are like new.

I also have some narrower smaller diameter ones WITH cores I haven't opened yet in 90a/93a V2 52mm.

I've got too many wheels at this point so it would have to be a trade for something else. DVD? Some wide 8.5+ trucks? Something else that is rare/an oddity?

Pm’ed!

[Xen]

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Would like to see which company can come up with a skinny wheel that handles crust and slides fast, sounds like an impossible task for an incredibly niche audience.

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Coreless V1 new bones formula 95a is exactly that. If you can deal with how quiet it is.

I'm a chirp/bark fan...gonna be hard to adjust.

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Would like to see which company can come up with a skinny wheel that handles crust and slides fast, sounds like an impossible task for an incredibly niche audience.

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Coreless V1 new bones formula 95a is exactly that. If you can deal with how quiet it is.

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I'm a chirp/bark fan...gonna be hard to adjust.

Yes. When the sound is off…but, I need to adjust/open up my likes and dislikes. I’ve slowly been getting ok with riding forged baseplates. Sounds dumb, feels a little weird, but I’m so over my particulars. Like I’m annoying myself. Thank the good lord I skate by myself.

[tzhangdox]

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Would like to see which company can come up with a skinny wheel that handles crust and slides fast, sounds like an impossible task for an incredibly niche audience.

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Coreless V1 new bones formula 95a is exactly that. If you can deal with how quiet it is.

I skated the v1 new bones formula in 95a today. So same exact wheel. Its skinny, can handle crust, and powerslides fast. Unlike the wide cored 95as I got which I gave some initial impressions on a bit earlier in this thread (which absolutely feel like a hard wheel), these are still in that hybrid, semi soft semi hard wheel territory. A bit harder and louder than my cored 93as for sure, but also still much softer than a spitfire f4 97a, and feel like a completely different wheel to the cored 95as I got. If it was a blind test, I'd assume they're a wildly different formula.

They powerslide very well, despite being quiet. But I still have the same gripes about it as I did with with the cored 90 and 93a, just a little less: pitch you harder from wheelbite vs a hard wheel, grips a bit more on certain grinds/slides on certain materials, and just less tactile and audio feedback (even though this you could probably get used to).

Skated rockridge curbs which is a slappy spot with somewhat rough asphalt ground. Rode amazingly, but still gripped noticeably more than f4s on slappys. There was a wooden ledge with some angle iron on the side. I was sticking pretty hard on noseblunt slides on the wooden top even after some wax, but was able to slide and do them pretty much every try on my friends board which had some spitfire 99 f4s on it.

I imagine on a waxed concrete ledge they'd slide a lot better, but besides powersliding on the ground, these (along with the cored 90 and 93as) are definitely less versatile for other types of slide such as nose/tail/bluntslides, pinching, climbing up curbs etc compared to a hard feeling wheel on many surfaces. And as for the cored 95as, they're great but I didn't really see any advantage they had over f4s at all, felt almost the same riding but were a little more difficult to initiate slides on.

I wonder if the coreless 97as will finally be getting to the point where they are a little louder, have some bark and screech, and are as versatile as a f4 whilst being a little more forgiving on soft ground. Couldn't get my hands on any, but at this rate after trying cored 90as, cored 93as, coreless and cored 95as, I'm not too optimistic. I have some cored 97as but those will probably just feel way too hard so I can't really be bothered. Was pretty fun to experiment on, and I definitely see a market for these wheels, but for now I'm going back to f4s. Though I did get some 56mm cored 90as for my cruiser which I'm certain I'll be hyped on after trying the 52s

also all of this was after I wore down the treads on the coreless 95as