Wheels Thread

[elegant_fox]

Ordered a set of these since I've never really skated a set of OJs before: https://nhsskatedirect.com/products/56mm-sanbongi-2-original-mini-combo-99a-oj-skateboard-wheels?variant=41976901206173

They should fit my 8.5 setup w/ Ace 55s pretty well.

[Texas_Tone]

Got a set of the "new" Autobahn dual duros in the mail from Full Circle Distro. They appear to be the same construction as the ones from several years ago. Still made in the U.S. also. Very accurate bearing seats too and less wobbly runout crap than with a lot of other wheels.

I also noticed "Snot Wheels" are doing some wheels in dual duro now. Apparently they are made at a factory in Texas, if you care about such things. Never tried them but might at some point.

If anyone grabs these please lemme know how these run, I asked about another brand that uses the same factory, and they snuffed me on the answer, while I won’t be buying anything from them in the future I would like to know about the other brands that use this factory out of Texas

[TwisT]

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Got a set of the "new" Autobahn dual duros in the mail from Full Circle Distro. They appear to be the same construction as the ones from several years ago. Still made in the U.S. also. Very accurate bearing seats too and less wobbly runout crap than with a lot of other wheels.

I also noticed "Snot Wheels" are doing some wheels in dual duro now. Apparently they are made at a factory in Texas, if you care about such things. Never tried them but might at some point.

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If anyone grabs these please lemme know how these run, I asked about another brand that uses the same factory, and they snuffed me on the answer, while I won’t be buying anything from them in the future I would like to know about the other brands that use this factory out of Texas

They have the same core, so it's likely

[goodatmeth]

If I buy 52mm Loophole wheels in the teardrop shape, which size can I actually expect? Seems like the sizes are never right and up to 2mm off, which would be kinda ok if they are 54mm, but I'd hate to spend the money if they're gonna be 50mm.

[Mbrimson88]

If I buy 52mm Loophole wheels in the teardrop shape, which size can I actually expect? Seems like the sizes are never right and up to 2mm off, which would be kinda ok if they are 54mm, but I'd hate to spend the money if they're gonna be 50mm.

People have said the NFG MFG wheels are usually smaller than what is listed, very rarely saying they were the same size or larger.

Guessing 52mm might be 52 or 51 going by what others have said.


Also given they are done and out of business, there would only be limited stock in these, unless they are the new Loophole wheels from Creative - speculation, but it makes sense that is where they are from.

In that case they would most likely be 52mm in size, as they have had their manufacturing dialled down for years, but they wouldn't be the same wheel that people had talked about and loved on here for so long.

[Xen]

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Got a set of the "new" Autobahn dual duros in the mail from Full Circle Distro. They appear to be the same construction as the ones from several years ago. Still made in the U.S. also. Very accurate bearing seats too and less wobbly runout crap than with a lot of other wheels.

I also noticed "Snot Wheels" are doing some wheels in dual duro now. Apparently they are made at a factory in Texas, if you care about such things. Never tried them but might at some point.

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If anyone grabs these please lemme know how these run, I asked about another brand that uses the same factory, and they snuffed me on the answer, while I won’t be buying anything from them in the future I would like to know about the other brands that use this factory out of Texas

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They have the same core, so it's likely

All the more reason to NOT buy them...you won't be sliding shit with those.

[rosemaryBB]

Did anyone else not know Autobahn still existed?

[blahblah999]

This guy didn't have problems sliding on the Snot 99A dual duro wheels.

[Texas_Tone]

If I buy 52mm Loophole wheels in the teardrop shape, which size can I actually expect? Seems like the sizes are never right and up to 2mm off, which would be kinda ok if they are 54mm, but I'd hate to spend the money if they're gonna be 50mm.

yea any of the new ones you’ll be alright with, creative will have all the QC issues dialed

[elegant_fox]

The Shin Sanbongi 56mm OJ mini-combos look really dope:



They feel like a soft 99a, maybe closer to a Spitfire 97a. I've written off OJ in the past, but these feel pretty great. Maybe not as instantly great out of the box as F4, but still pretty good. The look and graphic are top notch though. Going to try this as a jack of all setup on my 8.5 for a bit.

[DeepSpace9mm]

This guy didn't have problems sliding on the Snot 99A dual duro wheels.

I didn’t have any trouble sliding them either.

[rawbertson.]

What are 84b wheels like ?



lol i think these actually look pretty dope ... its too bad the art was not better on the graphic but the idea is cool

[elegant_fox]

What are 84b wheels like ?



lol i think these actually look pretty dope ... its too bad the art was not better on the graphic but the idea is cool

84b is my personal preference for a transition wheel in concrete skateparks. They’re fantastic at keeping speed and momentum whereas I’ve found 99a F4 to be slightly saggy on the same surface. If you’re primarily an F4 rider, these will feel faster and more slippery which some folks don’t jive with. They’re not ice-balls per se, they do grip well, but they have different traction breakaway characteristics compared to a grippy-chattery F4 99a.

I’m hoping to try the 101 F4s at my park soon and they’ll probably be a better comparison to the 84bs.
The downside of SPF is they’re single purpose wheels, they’re unusable outside of a skatepark or maybe an LA sidewalk.

[rawbertson.]

they sound awesome besides the fact i cant ride them on street   i guess i would be better to just stick with STF if i want bones

[backinaction]

What are 84b wheels like ?

They are not an all around wheel, but they are the best in certain situations.

If it is a smooth concrete bowl they are my favorite wheel hands down.  They are the fastest wheel I have used in this environment.  Grip is good for being so hard. They can revert/slide some, but not as well as an STF or F4 101 so if it's not a street type park wheel.  If you are doing boardslides on a ledge they do stick more than the ones above.

On pavement they are horrible.  Chattery and no benefits over any of the other hard wheels. 

I always have a board with SPFs and ceramic bearings set up for my local flow/bowl park.   I always have another board set up for when I'm not there.

[Mbrimson88]

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Just in case anyone is confused by the different ratings scales, the easiest way to work things out is like this:

A scale - only goes up to 100, so technically you can't have a 101 A wheel, but a lot of companies do it anyway.

70 - 80 A way softer than everything
80 - 89 A is a very soft skateboard wheel, more for cruisers and the like
90 - 95 A is still a soft wheel, but can usually make noise and slide more like a normal wheel
96-97 A is a slightly softer / more girppy wheel, but way more like a normal wheel
98-101 A is a "normal" skateboard wheel, hard and fast, will make noise when sliding more often than not


B scale - 20 points lower in comparison to the A scale, but can go a lot higher than the usual A scale too.

80 - 84 B equals 100 to 104 A, if there was a comparison, so they are "off the chart" so to speak when being compared to the A scale.


Working in skate shops and being very aware of this, I have seen many times where people get the scales confused, or don't even realise there are two different scales, so people who want soft wheels buy Bones 84B, or others who have had hard wheels buy the 80 duro wheels, or something like the Spitfire 80HD (80 on the A scale) or something similar thinking they were hard wheels when in fact they are not and are very soft.

[goodatmeth]

Did anybody ever actually measure the durometer of wheels? Preferably on the more accurate B-scale.

I just don't buy that F4 99a and STF 99a are actually the same hardness.
If F4 is a true 99a, then stf gotta be 98 or something.

It would generally be interesting to measure all kinds of wheels, since the A scale is inaccurate at high hardnesses, so a lot of wheels probably aren't what they claim. Especially "101a" wheels are probably all over the place.

[Creachteach]

Did anybody ever actually measure the durometer of wheels? Preferably on the more accurate B-scale.

I just don't buy that F4 99a and STF 99a are actually the same hardness.
If F4 is a true 99a, then stf gotta be 98 or something.

It would generally be interesting to measure all kinds of wheels, since the A scale is inaccurate at high hardnesses, so a lot of wheels probably aren't what they claim. Especially "101a" wheels are probably all over the place.

Yeah, I’d definitely like to see a real comparison. I have both STF99A and F499A, and they’re so different.
In the cold my F4s slide all over the ramps, and the STF is much stickier.

NFG measured in the D scale or some other. Which they said is even better, since the B scale uses a pointier needle or something, which will make it inaccurate, as it will start to puncture the wheel before you can have an accurate reading.

Someone in the right spot with the right tools and knowhow, should definitely make a chart.

[Made In China]

I'm looking for wheels for a cruiser set up that'll be smoother than the 99a wheels on my normal set up, but will still let me do slappys, slides, and some occasional flip tricks. Anyone have any recommendations?

Some wheels I was looking at:

Spitfire 80HD - I've heard a lot of mixed reviews on here but something about these are really appealing
OJ Mini Super Juice 78A - I've heard good things about these but I'm afraid they might be too soft for what I'm looking for
Spitfire F4 97D - Not sure if these will be that much different than 99a but I'm curious. Also seem hard to find

[Xen]

I'm looking for wheels for a cruiser set up that'll be smoother than the 99a wheels on my normal set up, but will still let me do slappys, slides, and some occasional flip tricks. Anyone have any recommendations?

Some wheels I was looking at:

Spitfire 80HD - I've heard a lot of mixed reviews on here but something about these are really appealing
OJ Mini Super Juice 78A - I've heard good things about these but I'm afraid they might be too soft for what I'm looking for
Spitfire F4 97D - Not sure if these will be that much different than 99a but I'm curious. Also seem hard to find

Bones x97

[Nacho Maildrop]

I'm looking for wheels for a cruiser set up that'll be smoother than the 99a wheels on my normal set up, but will still let me do slappys, slides, and some occasional flip tricks. Anyone have any recommendations?

Some wheels I was looking at:

Spitfire 80HD - I've heard a lot of mixed reviews on here but something about these are really appealing
OJ Mini Super Juice 78A - I've heard good things about these but I'm afraid they might be too soft for what I'm looking for
Spitfire F4 97D - Not sure if these will be that much different than 99a but I'm curious. Also seem hard to find

If you still want to slide and stuff, the 97s are the only above that will do that. But they're really not a cruiser wheel in the truest sense, and will feel closer to the 99s than the rest. Still, they do rule.

OJ keyframes are decent. They'll roll over anything and while they're a little sticky on slides you can still pull them off. Once I broke my set in, I could even do little reverts on them.

I've heard good things about the Powell Dragons, but I have a bias against them.

[yourbreakfsat]

I'm looking for wheels for a cruiser set up that'll be smoother than the 99a wheels on my normal set up, but will still let me do slappys, slides, and some occasional flip tricks. Anyone have any recommendations?

Some wheels I was looking at:

Spitfire 80HD - I've heard a lot of mixed reviews on here but something about these are really appealing
OJ Mini Super Juice 78A - I've heard good things about these but I'm afraid they might be too soft for what I'm looking for
Spitfire F4 97D - Not sure if these will be that much different than 99a but I'm curious. Also seem hard to find

I wouldn't consider F4 97a, they serve a different purpose that isn't for dedicated cruiser boards.

Powell Peralta Dragons are great for what you seem to want, and they come in a small variety of sizes. The one with the widest riding surface and diameter is the 60mm Rat Bones version. The G Bones version is 64mm but I think it has a smaller riding surface compared to the Rat Bones version.

[scab]

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I'm looking for wheels for a cruiser set up that'll be smoother than the 99a wheels on my normal set up, but will still let me do slappys, slides, and some occasional flip tricks. Anyone have any recommendations?

Some wheels I was looking at:

Spitfire 80HD - I've heard a lot of mixed reviews on here but something about these are really appealing
OJ Mini Super Juice 78A - I've heard good things about these but I'm afraid they might be too soft for what I'm looking for
Spitfire F4 97D - Not sure if these will be that much different than 99a but I'm curious. Also seem hard to find

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I wouldn't consider F4 97a, they serve a different purpose that isn't for dedicated cruiser boards.

Powell Peralta Dragons are great for what you seem to want, and they come in a small variety of sizes. The one with the widest riding surface and diameter is the 60mm Rat Bones version. The G Bones version is 64mm but I think it has a smaller riding surface compared to the Rat Bones version.

Seconding this. Dragons is the answer, they fit your needs profile to a T. Are they lame? Yeah, probably. But they also work great.

[tzhangdox]

I'm looking for wheels for a cruiser set up that'll be smoother than the 99a wheels on my normal set up, but will still let me do slappys, slides, and some occasional flip tricks. Anyone have any recommendations?

Some wheels I was looking at:

Spitfire 80HD - I've heard a lot of mixed reviews on here but something about these are really appealing
OJ Mini Super Juice 78A - I've heard good things about these but I'm afraid they might be too soft for what I'm looking for
Spitfire F4 97D - Not sure if these will be that much different than 99a but I'm curious. Also seem hard to find

Yeah powell dragons, feel pretty similar to an OJ keyframe, but a bit harder, when rolling. They slide and skate good. Not quite as good as a hard wheel but far better than anything else in that durometer range. You can just get the ones that are the same size and shape as your 99a street wheels too.

edit: (conflict of interest lol but I'm trying to sell some used, 56mm v6 dragons probably about 55mm now, I have too many sets of wheels, will let them go for very cheap if you're interested in trying)

[Frank and Fred]

I haven't spent much time on them so take my review with a grain of salt but the new 80HDs feel pretty good. Unlike some soft wheels they feel like a harder wheel that can mash over shitty surfaces with ease. I really like the Classic Full shape version. Mine are 56mm.

If you want to retain more a regular wheel 'feel' while riding the shittiest of surfaces, these could be it. If you prefer the feel of a soft wheel, I'd go with Mini Superjucies. Both seem to hold their speed as well as each other IMO. 80Hds will slide better, if you are one of those monsters that likes to slide cruiser wheels.

I hear Spitfire is working on some kind of hybrid wheel right now...

[elegant_fox]

I haven't spent much time on them so take my review with a grain of salt but the new 80HDs feel pretty good. Unlike some soft wheels they feel like a harder wheel that can mash over shitty surfaces with ease. I really like the Classic Full shape version. Mine are 56mm.

If you want to retain more a regular wheel 'feel' while riding the shittiest of surfaces, these could be it. If you prefer the feel of a soft wheel, I'd go with Mini Superjucies. Both seem to hold their speed as well as each other IMO. 80Hds will slide better, if you are one of those monsters that likes to slide crustier wheels.

I hear Spitfire is working on some kind of hybrid wheel right now...

Mini super juices are a blast on rough ground. They’re almost a long board wheel. They will bite and pitch you if you aren’t clean with the landing though.

[yourbreakfsat]

OJ dual duro wheels release on 4/20 (of course that's the release date :v)

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cpkyv5ZpAf0/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY%3D

[mynameisnotjeff]

OJ dual duro wheels release on 4/20 (of course that's the release date :v)

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cpkyv5ZpAf0/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY%3D

The gimmick lover in me wants a set but at $56 that’s too much.

[metchup]

What wheels are best for bombing hills?  I have some 56mm 99a conical fulls, 54mm 99a tablets, 54mm 103a stf (forgot the version), but I’m open to getting a new set.  Going to hills I used to hit as a kid when I didn’t care or know anything about gear.

Edit: added duro

[DERBY]

What wheels are best for bombing hills?  I have some 56mm conical fulls, 54mm tablets, 54mm stf (forgot the version), but I’m open to getting a new set.  Going to hills I used to hit as a kid when I didn’t care or know anything about gear.

radial fulls dawg