Wheels Thread

[goodatmeth]

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what are some decent wheels with a ton of offset?
looking to make a setup with trucks smaller than the deck

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Mike Arnold's Sml. wheels are extra wide but not offset. He loves them and swears by them. 56mm 99A.

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@cliff what does AG formula mean vs. the old formula?

This. And does one of them work well on slippery wood ramps?

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what are some decent wheels with a ton of offset?
looking to make a setup with trucks smaller than the deck

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Mike Arnold's Sml. wheels are extra wide but not offset. He loves them and swears by them. 56mm 99A.

(3rd slide shows the width)

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@cliff what does AG formula mean vs. the old formula?

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This. And does one of them work well on slippery wood ramps?

56s on the 44s with no risers, sick
Wheels look nice.

[rocklobster]

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what are some decent wheels with a ton of offset?
looking to make a setup with trucks smaller than the deck

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Mike Arnold's Sml. wheels are extra wide but not offset. He loves them and swears by them. 56mm 99A.

(3rd slide shows the width)

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@cliff what does AG formula mean vs. the old formula?

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This. And does one of them work well on slippery wood ramps?

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The new OJs feel way less icy, so now I can blame like 3% of those f4 slams on a personal gear mismatch and keep the madness alive.

Do you know how sml wheels compare to f4 in terms of grip? Cheers

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Ha, yeah definitely got to try some out and see what works.

I have had / seen two different types of SML wheels and both were good / no issues, but I didn't skate them much and passed them on to others who needed wheels, more so because I usually ride and feel most comfortable on Spitfires.

One set was very white, which seemed harder at first, the other set more milky, and was a bit softer / had more grip.  I guess being one of the many brands who use other wheels, it is just one of those things.

See this post for the slight differences, not counting the coloured wheels at the end.

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So the ones with the flowers on the left are our AG formula (made specific Austyn) from Creative Urethane which is closer to a Spitfire Classic. They have a more traditional feel with a little bit easier slide-ability.

The other ones on the right are our OG formula from Aend They are closer to a Bones STF. They have a high rebound so they won't flat spot it doesn't have to do with the hardness as much as the high quality of urethane . So they do take a little more effort on the slide but I personally love them.

The duro is the same 99a on both but they both have their own feel.

I hope this info is helpful and thanks for the support!!

From what I've read:

AG - Similar to Spitfire OG formula, like a 99a
OG - Similar to Darkstar Master Urethane formula, like a 101a

[schralp pal]

gracias rocklobster.

I have been really tempted to skate something other than f4s lately.

[cliff]

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what are some decent wheels with a ton of offset?
looking to make a setup with trucks smaller than the deck

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Mike Arnold's Sml. wheels are extra wide but not offset. He loves them and swears by them. 56mm 99A.

(3rd slide shows the width)

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@cliff what does AG formula mean vs. the old formula?

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This. And does one of them work well on slippery wood ramps?

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The new OJs feel way less icy, so now I can blame like 3% of those f4 slams on a personal gear mismatch and keep the madness alive.

Do you know how sml wheels compare to f4 in terms of grip? Cheers

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Ha, yeah definitely got to try some out and see what works.

I have had / seen two different types of SML wheels and both were good / no issues, but I didn't skate them much and passed them on to others who needed wheels, more so because I usually ride and feel most comfortable on Spitfires.

One set was very white, which seemed harder at first, the other set more milky, and was a bit softer / had more grip.  I guess being one of the many brands who use other wheels, it is just one of those things.

See this post for the slight differences, not counting the coloured wheels at the end.

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So the ones with the flowers on the left are our AG formula (made specific Austyn) from Creative Urethane which is closer to a Spitfire Classic. They have a more traditional feel with a little bit easier slide-ability.

The other ones on the right are our OG formula from Aend They are closer to a Bones STF. They have a high rebound so they won't flat spot it doesn't have to do with the hardness as much as the high quality of urethane . So they do take a little more effort on the slide but I personally love them.

The duro is the same 99a on both but they both have their own feel.

I hope this info is helpful and thanks for the support!!

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From what I've read:

AG - Similar to Spitfire OG formula, like a 99a
OG - Similar to Darkstar Master Urethane formula, like a 101a

This is spot on. Appreciate the love everyone!

[GBLange]

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what are some decent wheels with a ton of offset?
looking to make a setup with trucks smaller than the deck

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The absolute most offset wheel is the Powell Mini Cubic - got them on 139s / 8" trucks with those wheels fitting a 10" board easily enough, or 129s fit an 8.75 or so - 64mm x 64mm in 95 duro so they go over everything, first made famous in the 70s era style of skateboarding, I think.

Others like the Santa Cruz Slimeballs would be up there, along with OJ Elite versions, 60 or 61mm sizes, 95 and 97 duros as they are very wide too and offset about a cm to the outside edge.

Then Powell Rat Bones 60mm 90 duro, with Dogtown and similar wheels coming in after that, unless they are different to the ones I saw.

There was another brand, Road Crew that did a Scram Skates wheel that was very big, very offset and people were talking about it for a while, but I didn't see any still in stock anywhere, but they are another one up in the second or almost first category.

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[fakienoseslide]

Bought a new set of wheels from my local shop the other day and today when I was about to set them up I noticed this little defect on one of the wheels.



Is that air trapped in the urethane or something else? I have a chance to stop by the shop next weekend, but asking for slaps opinion because I would not want to return these if I dont have to. The Wheels are Spitfire Formula 4 Conical 101D.

Cheers!

[Texas_Tone]

Bought a new set of wheels from my local shop the other day and today when I was about to set them up I noticed this little defect on one of the wheels.



Is that air trapped in the urethane or something else? I have a chance to stop by the shop next weekend, but asking for slaps opinion because I would not want to return these if I dont have to. The Wheels are Spitfire Formula 4 Conical 101D.

Cheers!

Doesn’t look like it would affect the rideability, I’d go ahead and set them up and give ‘em a whirl, if it’s an issue then deal with it

[beandemon]

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what are some decent wheels with a ton of offset?
looking to make a setup with trucks smaller than the deck

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Dogtown K9 80s wheels

Speedlab makes a few, too. Copies of 80’s freestyle/street wheels.

[dr.prestige]

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what are some decent wheels with a ton of offset?
looking to make a setup with trucks smaller than the deck

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Spitfire Radial Fulls are the chunkiest street wheel I’ve seen, but they’re not offset. They’re just really wide and cover most of the axle width.

The 60mm Dragons in the new Rat Bones shape are heavily offset, so you don’t lose any grind space on the hanger, and the wheels extend beyond the axle end about 3/16 in.

I was going to say this same suggestion, I really dig my Rat Bones Dragons

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what are some decent wheels with a ton of offset?
looking to make a setup with trucks smaller than the deck

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The absolute most offset wheel is the Powell Mini Cubic - got them on 139s / 8" trucks with those wheels fitting a 10" board easily enough, or 129s fit an 8.75 or so - 64mm x 64mm in 95 duro so they go over everything, first made famous in the 70s era style of skateboarding, I think.

Others like the Santa Cruz Slimeballs would be up there, along with OJ Elite versions, 60 or 61mm sizes, 95 and 97 duros as they are very wide too and offset about a cm to the outside edge.

Then Powell Rat Bones 60mm 90 duro, with Dogtown and similar wheels coming in after that, unless they are different to the ones I saw.

There was another brand, Road Crew that did a Scram Skates wheel that was very big, very offset and people were talking about it for a while, but I didn't see any still in stock anywhere, but they are another one up in the second or almost first category.

Love my mini cubics. I have personally experienced that they add a little under an inch and a half to your truck width. For example with the mini cubics on 5.0 trucks (7.625" width), they would fit nicely under a 9" deck (That's the setup that I personally ran with them)

[dr.prestige]

Bought a new set of wheels from my local shop the other day and today when I was about to set them up I noticed this little defect on one of the wheels.



Is that air trapped in the urethane or something else? I have a chance to stop by the shop next weekend, but asking for slaps opinion because I would not want to return these if I dont have to. The Wheels are Spitfire Formula 4 Conical 101D.

Cheers!

That's probably nothing to worry about. It looks to be that it's only a cosmetic defect. Skate them first before you email deluxe, and I would only email them if the wear from use appears uneven around that spot.

[intendedreceivers]

Bought a new set of wheels from my local shop the other day and today when I was about to set them up I noticed this little defect on one of the wheels.



Is that air trapped in the urethane or something else? I have a chance to stop by the shop next weekend, but asking for slaps opinion because I would not want to return these if I dont have to. The Wheels are Spitfire Formula 4 Conical 101D.

Cheers!

There’s a swirl like this somewhere on almost every set of F4s I have. My guess is it’s just a little separation in the urethane mix, like maybe the natural color of the urethane is translucent, and whatever they add to make it opaque doesn’t always get perfectly mixed in every nook and cranny of the bucket or tank. If they’re putting many wheels into the market like that, I’ve got to assume there’s no functional issue. I haven’t noticed it affecting anything.

[kneebone]

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Has anyone tried those new OJ Dual Durometer wheels?

I'm curious, but then again, this makes me think of the old school Darkstar dual durometers (that everyone rode backwards to show the cores) but then they sucked.

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Or autobahn that has been doing dual duros since their inception, they suck too

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I’ve skated a lot of ricta, and they’ve been mostly good. I use to skate the 103b 53mm David speed rings. Loved that wheel.

I have the 92a ricta clouds on my cruiser. They’re good. I imagine the OJs are just making OJ clouds now.

I’m currently skating SNOT wheels and really enjoying them. I’m pretty sure they’re just purple and teal autobahns

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If I was gonna skate dual duro, it would prolly be the from the NHS camp, I don’t know though, I just remember really fucking hating the autobahns I’ve skated, I’d prolly just stick with a normal wheel and get the Kenny Anderson wheel condom he is currently developing, if I wanted to be able to cruise over shit and still be able to slide the way I want

Humidity has these up in their webstore now. $57 retail 
https://www.humiditynola.com/product-page/oj-prototype-double-durometer-wheels

[Murge]

$57 kinda steep for wheels when the current industry leader is $38-40

[TastyBurrito]

$57 kinda steep for wheels when the current industry leader is $38-40

$57?! Fuh!

[Mbrimson88]

Bought a new set of wheels from my local shop the other day and today when I was about to set them up I noticed this little defect on one of the wheels.


Is that air trapped in the urethane or something else? I have a chance to stop by the shop next weekend, but asking for slaps opinion because I would not want to return these if I dont have to. The Wheels are Spitfire Formula 4 Conical 101D.

Cheers!

Can you feel it when you run a fingernail over it if it?

Is it purely visual or does it have a different texture, or actual surface ripples?


At least taking a pic to show the shop is good.

[Texas_Tone]

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Has anyone tried those new OJ Dual Durometer wheels?

I'm curious, but then again, this makes me think of the old school Darkstar dual durometers (that everyone rode backwards to show the cores) but then they sucked.

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Or autobahn that has been doing dual duros since their inception, they suck too

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I’ve skated a lot of ricta, and they’ve been mostly good. I use to skate the 103b 53mm David speed rings. Loved that wheel.

I have the 92a ricta clouds on my cruiser. They’re good. I imagine the OJs are just making OJ clouds now.

I’m currently skating SNOT wheels and really enjoying them. I’m pretty sure they’re just purple and teal autobahns

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If I was gonna skate dual duro, it would prolly be the from the NHS camp, I don’t know though, I just remember really fucking hating the autobahns I’ve skated, I’d prolly just stick with a normal wheel and get the Kenny Anderson wheel condom he is currently developing, if I wanted to be able to cruise over shit and still be able to slide the way I want

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Humidity has these up in their webstore now. $57 retail 
https://www.humiditynola.com/product-page/oj-prototype-double-durometer-wheels

Hahahaa nah I’m good, they do look lux though, better be with that price tag

[fakienoseslide]

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Bought a new set of wheels from my local shop the other day and today when I was about to set them up I noticed this little defect on one of the wheels.


Is that air trapped in the urethane or something else? I have a chance to stop by the shop next weekend, but asking for slaps opinion because I would not want to return these if I dont have to. The Wheels are Spitfire Formula 4 Conical 101D.

Cheers!

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Can you feel it when you run a fingernail over it if it?

Is it purely visual or does it have a different texture, or actual surface ripples?


At least taking a pic to show the shop is good.

It's  completely smooth on the surface. What it looked like first was that there would be air trapped under the surface and my worry was that after little riding the crumbly part would be exposed and ruin the ride.

Now when I think about it I dont know if it would make sense? I'm thinking maybe its like what intendedreceivers said that its just a issue with the color mixing with urethane and its just cosmetical defect. I've had few set of F4's previously and havent noticed this yet myself.

Anyways I set them up and I'll ride them. I can report back here if I run into some issues.

Thanks for the help slap pals!

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Anyone else here who mostly rides softer wheels?
I've been on some 78/87a wheels for some time and I'm a big fan. Since I have ankle and knee issues I find that softer wheels help me skate much longer times and makes street skating much more tolerable. I'm more into cruising, curbs, slappies and transition (where I use 99a) because of my said issues. I've been thinking of getting some dragons/formula x in the future but not sure how they handle crustier spots.

[goodatmeth]

Anyone else here who mostly rides softer wheels?
I've been on some 78/87a wheels for some time and I'm a big fan. Since I have ankle and knee issues I find that softer wheels help me skate much longer times and makes street skating much more tolerable. I'm more into cruising, curbs, slappies and transition (where I use 99a) because of my said issues. I've been thinking of getting some dragons/formula x in the future but not sure how they handle crustier spots.

I think the dragons in a wide shape are not super far from the feel of 87a wheels. The x formula feels more like a hard wheel with a bit more smoothness, far from cruiser vibes.

[yourbreakfsat]

Anyone else here who mostly rides softer wheels?
I've been on some 78/87a wheels for some time and I'm a big fan. Since I have ankle and knee issues I find that softer wheels help me skate much longer times and makes street skating much more tolerable. I'm more into cruising, curbs, slappies and transition (where I use 99a) because of my said issues. I've been thinking of getting some dragons/formula x in the future but not sure how they handle crustier spots.

@tkp

[rawbertson.]

madness guy on the dual duro OJ's

no noseslides in sight
seem like a better in between than what they have currently like if you ride hot juice they will not last for slappys worth shit... these probably last longer but honestly i dont really see whats better with this than their like 95a or whatever they already offer. maybe its a bit more cruisery?

[Texas_Tone]

madness guy on the dual duro OJ's

no noseslides in sight
seem like a better in between than what they have currently like if you ride hot juice they will not last for slappys worth shit... these probably last longer but honestly i dont really see whats better with this than their like 95a or whatever they already offer. maybe its a bit more cruisery?

He’s no longer madness guy right? He’s an arbor bro

[freidnly guy]

madness guy on the dual duro OJ's

no noseslides in sight
seem like a better in between than what they have currently like if you ride hot juice they will not last for slappys worth shit... these probably last longer but honestly i dont really see whats better with this than their like 95a or whatever they already offer. maybe its a bit more cruisery?

The outer duro is 101, 95 inner, so they will slide the same as the other oj 101s. I was curious for a second but not for $57.

[j....soy.....]

Remember back in the day when gimmicks were for children?

[Sombrero]

Anyone else here who mostly rides softer wheels?
I've been on some 78/87a wheels for some time and I'm a big fan. Since I have ankle and knee issues I find that softer wheels help me skate much longer times and makes street skating much more tolerable. I'm more into cruising, curbs, slappies and transition (where I use 99a) because of my said issues. I've been thinking of getting some dragons/formula x in the future but not sure how they handle crustier spots.

52yo with torn meniscus here. Dragons are a godsend. Ricta Cloud 78a was great for my therapy phase and I still alternate to them to baby my knees. I had 97a G-Bones (64mm) and sessions lasted 30 mins max before I tapped out. 64mm Dragons were an immediate relief and it's hard to imagine that 97a VS 93a would be so dramatic.
I thought a middle ground between the Rictas and dragons would be a sweet spot so I tried OJ Keyframes 87a (58mm). They DID NOT feel soft at all compared to Dragons. Whatever that DF formula is- works. I'd love to try X-Formula if they make a 64mm cuz i'm kinda loving that size right now. *Also using OJ Juice Cubes for shock and compression sleeves for my knees. Only regret is not doing it sooner.

[WideFeet]

I’m planning on trying out the new Double Duro OJ’s just for the hell of it. I don’t expect much, honestly. They’re gonna slide the same as Elite’s. I just wanna see if they actually work.

Also, got a set of Acid wheels for free. Anyone skate them? They look real basic, like nothing special about them. Curious though, because they were free, I will set them up on something so I can use them

[Texas_Tone]

I’m planning on trying out the new Double Duro OJ’s just for the hell of it. I don’t expect much, honestly. They’re gonna slide the same as Elite’s. I just wanna see if they actually work.

Also, got a set of Acid wheels for free. Anyone skate them? They look real basic, like nothing special about them. Curious though, because they were free, I will set them up on something so I can use them

Never skated them, thats who is making the new loopholes though, heard from an ex rider that they are pretty hard, prolly gonna give them a shot after I’m done with the F4s I’m skating 

[Murge]

 I got wheel madness. Been  happy skating 55mm spit classics. Now about  54. Slipped out on a grind hurt my hip a few weeks ago. Since i slipped out I put conical regs on. Flip tricks take more effort and my kickflips/ barrel rolls are suffering. And things just don’t flip as easily. But feel secure in locking in. Little more work to get off coping and grinds but feels good when I’m in. Is there an in between shape that locks in like a conical and feels good for flip tricks like a classic? I got a set of 53 and 54 radials but they are 101. I’m debating on doing a side cut at work in the classics to make them like a bones v5

[logjammin]

Normally I wouldn’t hate on a product that just hit the market without testing it but hasn’t NHS been pushing Rictas with a “dual duro” for years at a more normal price? That price tag is insane and I cannot find any justification in my mind. I doubt they will perform any better than how well dragons have been treating folks who want that softer duro. Fuck, formula fours have been going up in price and moved manufacturing out of the USA but at least they’re worth it.