Wheels Thread

[Xen]

Not trying to hate, jut trying to understand but I get confused by everyone saying they can skate longer with the various dragon/xwhaterver wheels. Do your feet actually hurt from the vibrations of a skateboard? I have lived on the east coast my whole life and skate some fairly rough ground but I have never really experienced this. What kind of ground are you guys skating?

Honestly you really have to have been paying attention to your skating/body both before during and after with your normal duro and the x-formula.

As an Eastcoaster (NY/NYC) I've skated my fair share and I would have KILLED for these wheels back in the day...the sheer amount of spots that would have been opened up is crazy.

Some places are just chattery, you know? or have rough spots here and there...landings, even flat or ledges, overtime (during the session / weekly or whatever amount you skate) you'll find that your feet/calves/knees, wherever YOU feel normally feel the fatigue, has lessened. Even pushing is easier on the body, no more extra focus on the front foot when pushing through shit; obviously things like muscles used to push (quads) or crouching (quads) to ollie or flick are not getting any benefit and will still feel sore.

Running on asphalt vs the beach or soft (even grade) trails, cushy insoles vs flat hard ones, it's all going to have an effect.

For me it's the knees, on 103s/99s vs x97/x99s I can almost double my skating time these days; 2hrs is usually the max on mixed terrain with other wheels x99s and I'm still the one skating when the crew have quit for the day, where I would usually be the one done sooner; and I've got years on them age-wise.

All that shit aside, once you get used to the easy of skating/vibration reduction is fucking hard going back, you have to really want to or need to (bluntslides for me) to ride other wheels.

[FirstBlood82]

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Not trying to hate, jut trying to understand but I get confused by everyone saying they can skate longer with the various dragon/xwhaterver wheels. Do your feet actually hurt from the vibrations of a skateboard? I have lived on the east coast my whole life and skate some fairly rough ground but I have never really experienced this. What kind of ground are you guys skating?

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Honestly you really have to have been paying attention to your skating/body both before during and after with your normal duro and the x-formula.

As an Eastcoaster (NY/NYC) I've skated my fair share and I would have KILLED for these wheels back in the day...the sheer amount of spots that would have been opened up is crazy.

Some places are just chattery, you know? or have rough spots here and there...landings, even flat or ledges, overtime (during the session / weekly or whatever amount you skate) you'll find that your feet/calves/knees, wherever YOU feel normally feel the fatigue, has lessened. Even pushing is easier on the body, no more extra focus on the front foot when pushing through shit; obviously things like muscles used to push (quads) or crouching (quads) to ollie or flick are not getting any benefit and will still feel sore.

Running on asphalt vs the beach or soft (even grade) trails, cushy insoles vs flat hard ones, it's all going to have an effect.

For me it's the knees, on 103s/99s vs x97/x99s I can almost double my skating time these days; 2hrs is usually the max on mixed terrain with other wheels x99s and I'm still the one skating when the crew have quit for the day, where I would usually be the one done sooner; and I've got years on them age-wise.

All that shit aside, once you get used to the easy of skating/vibration reduction is fucking hard going back, you have to really want to or need to (bluntslides for me) to ride other wheels.

Biggest downside for me, thats why i changed to x97

[Jackismydogsname]

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Apologies if this has been discussed, but I'm curious if anyone has experience using Powell Dragons (or the Bones equivalent) as filmer wheels?

I'm going on a trip and don't want to have to bring two setups/sets of wheels and it sounds like these would be a pretty decent option for both skating and filming. I'm just not sure if they're smooth and quiet enough to be comparable to something like a Spitfire cruiser wheel that I usually would film with, but assume they're quieter than a normal F4 or something.

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A little off topic now, but I ended up riding a set of 54mm Dragons on this trip and as much as I was hoping I'd love them, I did not. They were great as a replacement for having both a normal setup and a filmer board, but it just felt kind of like a shitty version of both. A bit too loud and small for filming (probably just because I'm used to a monster truck filmer board) and too soft and..."springy sounding" for a regular board (I'm used to small heavily used F4s).

Was kinda hoping I'd love them and just ride these wheels forever, but unfortunately it's not for me.

I think the end conclusion for us is start having 3 completes. 

[Xen]

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Apologies if this has been discussed, but I'm curious if anyone has experience using Powell Dragons (or the Bones equivalent) as filmer wheels?

I'm going on a trip and don't want to have to bring two setups/sets of wheels and it sounds like these would be a pretty decent option for both skating and filming. I'm just not sure if they're smooth and quiet enough to be comparable to something like a Spitfire cruiser wheel that I usually would film with, but assume they're quieter than a normal F4 or something.

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A little off topic now, but I ended up riding a set of 54mm Dragons on this trip and as much as I was hoping I'd love them, I did not. They were great as a replacement for having both a normal setup and a filmer board, but it just felt kind of like a shitty version of both. A bit too loud and small for filming (probably just because I'm used to a monster truck filmer board) and too soft and..."springy sounding" for a regular board (I'm used to small heavily used F4s).

Was kinda hoping I'd love them and just ride these wheels forever, but unfortunately it's not for me.

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I think the end conclusion for us is start having 3 completes. 

I'm hovering at two right now...a long WB board with rails, wide trucks, 54mm x97s, it's 'the curb' board, without being an unruly ugly floppingflips shaped curb board and a more tech/plaza board (shorter wb, small 101 classics, ventures; tho I could get away with x99s here).

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Apologies if this has been discussed, but I'm curious if anyone has experience using Powell Dragons (or the Bones equivalent) as filmer wheels?

I'm going on a trip and don't want to have to bring two setups/sets of wheels and it sounds like these would be a pretty decent option for both skating and filming. I'm just not sure if they're smooth and quiet enough to be comparable to something like a Spitfire cruiser wheel that I usually would film with, but assume they're quieter than a normal F4 or something.

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A little off topic now, but I ended up riding a set of 54mm Dragons on this trip and as much as I was hoping I'd love them, I did not. They were great as a replacement for having both a normal setup and a filmer board, but it just felt kind of like a shitty version of both. A bit too loud and small for filming (probably just because I'm used to a monster truck filmer board) and too soft and..."springy sounding" for a regular board (I'm used to small heavily used F4s).

Was kinda hoping I'd love them and just ride these wheels forever, but unfortunately it's not for me.

[close]

I think the end conclusion for us is start having 3 completes. 

[close]

I'm hovering at two right now...a long WB board with rails, wide trucks, 54mm x97s, it's 'the curb' board, without being an unruly ugly floppingflips shaped curb board and a more tech/plaza board (shorter wb, small 101 classics, ventures; tho I could get away with x99s here).

haven’t tried x99s, but small 101 classics, in the perfect circumstances, seems like such a pleasant, luxurious experience.
wrong circumstances and i’d want to go home. immediately.
but some decent brick!? i love it

[Xen]

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Apologies if this has been discussed, but I'm curious if anyone has experience using Powell Dragons (or the Bones equivalent) as filmer wheels?

I'm going on a trip and don't want to have to bring two setups/sets of wheels and it sounds like these would be a pretty decent option for both skating and filming. I'm just not sure if they're smooth and quiet enough to be comparable to something like a Spitfire cruiser wheel that I usually would film with, but assume they're quieter than a normal F4 or something.

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A little off topic now, but I ended up riding a set of 54mm Dragons on this trip and as much as I was hoping I'd love them, I did not. They were great as a replacement for having both a normal setup and a filmer board, but it just felt kind of like a shitty version of both. A bit too loud and small for filming (probably just because I'm used to a monster truck filmer board) and too soft and..."springy sounding" for a regular board (I'm used to small heavily used F4s).

Was kinda hoping I'd love them and just ride these wheels forever, but unfortunately it's not for me.

[close]

I think the end conclusion for us is start having 3 completes. 

[close]

I'm hovering at two right now...a long WB board with rails, wide trucks, 54mm x97s, it's 'the curb' board, without being an unruly ugly floppingflips shaped curb board and a more tech/plaza board (shorter wb, small 101 classics, ventures; tho I could get away with x99s here).

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haven’t tried x99s, but small 101 classics, in the perfect circumstances, seems like such a pleasant, luxurious experience.
wrong circumstances and i’d want to go home. immediately.
but some decent brick!? i love it

After being back on 103s stfs /101a spits for close to two weeks (about a week each), I'm struggling to enjoy the x97s / x99s except on the most crustyliscious of spots...everything feels dead and slow after...however skating to the spots is a different story....

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Apologies if this has been discussed, but I'm curious if anyone has experience using Powell Dragons (or the Bones equivalent) as filmer wheels?

I'm going on a trip and don't want to have to bring two setups/sets of wheels and it sounds like these would be a pretty decent option for both skating and filming. I'm just not sure if they're smooth and quiet enough to be comparable to something like a Spitfire cruiser wheel that I usually would film with, but assume they're quieter than a normal F4 or something.

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A little off topic now, but I ended up riding a set of 54mm Dragons on this trip and as much as I was hoping I'd love them, I did not. They were great as a replacement for having both a normal setup and a filmer board, but it just felt kind of like a shitty version of both. A bit too loud and small for filming (probably just because I'm used to a monster truck filmer board) and too soft and..."springy sounding" for a regular board (I'm used to small heavily used F4s).

Was kinda hoping I'd love them and just ride these wheels forever, but unfortunately it's not for me.

[close]

I think the end conclusion for us is start having 3 completes. 

[close]

I'm hovering at two right now...a long WB board with rails, wide trucks, 54mm x97s, it's 'the curb' board, without being an unruly ugly floppingflips shaped curb board and a more tech/plaza board (shorter wb, small 101 classics, ventures; tho I could get away with x99s here).

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haven’t tried x99s, but small 101 classics, in the perfect circumstances, seems like such a pleasant, luxurious experience.
wrong circumstances and i’d want to go home. immediately.
but some decent brick!? i love it

[close]

After being back on 103s stfs /101a spits for close to two weeks (about a week each), I'm struggling to enjoy the x97s / x99s except on the most crustyliscious of spots...everything feels dead and slow after...however skating to the spots is a different story....

as everyone here has read me whine about, so many times: venture lo’s = 51s = walking to the spot. and when i’m at ‘the spot’ it is just me, an old man, bailing flatground trick attempts….well, that starts to feel a little bleak. the ride to the spot is more the thing.
i do not have high hopes for these 52 x97s. i’ll know this weekend.

[Frank and Fred]

Tried sone Spitfire sapphires at the park today and was pleasantly surprised. Dude had them and was pretty into them. I only rolled around a bit and did a couple of 180s slides but they felt unique in a good way. Soft but not gummy and held their speed. He said he dug them on shit surfaces also. Pretty sure, nose/ tail/ blunt sidles would be pretty hard do to slide on them...

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Apologies if this has been discussed, but I'm curious if anyone has experience using Powell Dragons (or the Bones equivalent) as filmer wheels?

I'm going on a trip and don't want to have to bring two setups/sets of wheels and it sounds like these would be a pretty decent option for both skating and filming. I'm just not sure if they're smooth and quiet enough to be comparable to something like a Spitfire cruiser wheel that I usually would film with, but assume they're quieter than a normal F4 or something.

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A little off topic now, but I ended up riding a set of 54mm Dragons on this trip and as much as I was hoping I'd love them, I did not. They were great as a replacement for having both a normal setup and a filmer board, but it just felt kind of like a shitty version of both. A bit too loud and small for filming (probably just because I'm used to a monster truck filmer board) and too soft and..."springy sounding" for a regular board (I'm used to small heavily used F4s).

Was kinda hoping I'd love them and just ride these wheels forever, but unfortunately it's not for me.

[close]

I think the end conclusion for us is start having 3 completes. 

[close]

I'm hovering at two right now...a long WB board with rails, wide trucks, 54mm x97s, it's 'the curb' board, without being an unruly ugly floppingflips shaped curb board and a more tech/plaza board (shorter wb, small 101 classics, ventures; tho I could get away with x99s here).

[close]

haven’t tried x99s, but small 101 classics, in the perfect circumstances, seems like such a pleasant, luxurious experience.
wrong circumstances and i’d want to go home. immediately.
but some decent brick!? i love it

[close]

After being back on 103s stfs /101a spits for close to two weeks (about a week each), I'm struggling to enjoy the x97s / x99s except on the most crustyliscious of spots...everything feels dead and slow after...however skating to the spots is a different story....

[close]

as everyone here has read me whine about, so many times: venture lo’s = 51s = walking to the spot. and when i’m at ‘the spot’ it is just me, an old man, bailing flatground trick attempts….well, that starts to feel a little bleak. the ride to the spot is more the thing.
i do not have high hopes for these 52 x97s. i’ll know this weekend.

turns outs the 52 x97s are pretty alright!
the white is decent, not cheap wheel white, not potato brown.
i like the v1 shape.
wheelbite with the lo’s is pretty savage
the formula is really decent: little backside 180 guerrero slides can be the eject button with soft wheels, these do fine. i only skated them flatground, and they did take some of the sting out of the session, which is very welcomed.
i did let myself get talked into setting them up
graphics out, by the punk-ass 5 year old i was hanging with, but that’s on me.

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Apologies if this has been discussed, but I'm curious if anyone has experience using Powell Dragons (or the Bones equivalent) as filmer wheels?

I'm going on a trip and don't want to have to bring two setups/sets of wheels and it sounds like these would be a pretty decent option for both skating and filming. I'm just not sure if they're smooth and quiet enough to be comparable to something like a Spitfire cruiser wheel that I usually would film with, but assume they're quieter than a normal F4 or something.

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A little off topic now, but I ended up riding a set of 54mm Dragons on this trip and as much as I was hoping I'd love them, I did not. They were great as a replacement for having both a normal setup and a filmer board, but it just felt kind of like a shitty version of both. A bit too loud and small for filming (probably just because I'm used to a monster truck filmer board) and too soft and..."springy sounding" for a regular board (I'm used to small heavily used F4s).

Was kinda hoping I'd love them and just ride these wheels forever, but unfortunately it's not for me.

[close]

I think the end conclusion for us is start having 3 completes. 

[close]

I'm hovering at two right now...a long WB board with rails, wide trucks, 54mm x97s, it's 'the curb' board, without being an unruly ugly floppingflips shaped curb board and a more tech/plaza board (shorter wb, small 101 classics, ventures; tho I could get away with x99s here).

[close]

haven’t tried x99s, but small 101 classics, in the perfect circumstances, seems like such a pleasant, luxurious experience.
wrong circumstances and i’d want to go home. immediately.
but some decent brick!? i love it

[close]

After being back on 103s stfs /101a spits for close to two weeks (about a week each), I'm struggling to enjoy the x97s / x99s except on the most crustyliscious of spots...everything feels dead and slow after...however skating to the spots is a different story....

[close]

as everyone here has read me whine about, so many times: venture lo’s = 51s = walking to the spot. and when i’m at ‘the spot’ it is just me, an old man, bailing flatground trick attempts….well, that starts to feel a little bleak. the ride to the spot is more the thing.
i do not have high hopes for these 52 x97s. i’ll know this weekend.

[close]

turns outs the 52 x97s are pretty alright!
the white is decent, not cheap wheel white, not potato brown.
i like the v1 shape.
wheelbite with the lo’s is pretty savage
the formula is really decent: little backside 180 guerrero slides can be the eject button with soft wheels, these do fine. i only skated them flatground, and they did take some of the sting out of the session, which is very welcomed.
i did let myself get talked into setting them up
graphics out, by the punk-ass 5 year old i was hanging with, but that’s on me.

Nice, enjoy them!

I setup my black 54mm V6 x99s again, coming off white x99s and damn, the black x99s are so much harder feeling than the white x99s, either that or I'm crazy...they def feel harder than spit 99s as well...super weird.

[jums]

I’m rocking some old beige conical 99F4s. I got 3 X formula wheels on ice I’d like to try as soon as I’m done with this deck. V6 97 and 99. It’s rough as hell anywhere outside the park here. I’m impatiently waiting to try the softer duro to see if it really makes skating rough terrain feel smooth(er).

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Apologies if this has been discussed, but I'm curious if anyone has experience using Powell Dragons (or the Bones equivalent) as filmer wheels?

I'm going on a trip and don't want to have to bring two setups/sets of wheels and it sounds like these would be a pretty decent option for both skating and filming. I'm just not sure if they're smooth and quiet enough to be comparable to something like a Spitfire cruiser wheel that I usually would film with, but assume they're quieter than a normal F4 or something.

[close]

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A little off topic now, but I ended up riding a set of 54mm Dragons on this trip and as much as I was hoping I'd love them, I did not. They were great as a replacement for having both a normal setup and a filmer board, but it just felt kind of like a shitty version of both. A bit too loud and small for filming (probably just because I'm used to a monster truck filmer board) and too soft and..."springy sounding" for a regular board (I'm used to small heavily used F4s).

Was kinda hoping I'd love them and just ride these wheels forever, but unfortunately it's not for me.

[close]

I think the end conclusion for us is start having 3 completes. 

[close]

I'm hovering at two right now...a long WB board with rails, wide trucks, 54mm x97s, it's 'the curb' board, without being an unruly ugly floppingflips shaped curb board and a more tech/plaza board (shorter wb, small 101 classics, ventures; tho I could get away with x99s here).

[close]

haven’t tried x99s, but small 101 classics, in the perfect circumstances, seems like such a pleasant, luxurious experience.
wrong circumstances and i’d want to go home. immediately.
but some decent brick!? i love it

[close]

After being back on 103s stfs /101a spits for close to two weeks (about a week each), I'm struggling to enjoy the x97s / x99s except on the most crustyliscious of spots...everything feels dead and slow after...however skating to the spots is a different story....

[close]

as everyone here has read me whine about, so many times: venture lo’s = 51s = walking to the spot. and when i’m at ‘the spot’ it is just me, an old man, bailing flatground trick attempts….well, that starts to feel a little bleak. the ride to the spot is more the thing.
i do not have high hopes for these 52 x97s. i’ll know this weekend.

[close]

turns outs the 52 x97s are pretty alright!
the white is decent, not cheap wheel white, not potato brown.
i like the v1 shape.
wheelbite with the lo’s is pretty savage
the formula is really decent: little backside 180 guerrero slides can be the eject button with soft wheels, these do fine. i only skated them flatground, and they did take some of the sting out of the session, which is very welcomed.
i did let myself get talked into setting them up
graphics out, by the punk-ass 5 year old i was hanging with, but that’s on me.

[close]

Nice, enjoy them!

I setup my black 54mm V6 x99s again, coming off white x99s and damn, the black x99s are so much harder feeling than the white x99s, either that or I'm crazy...they def feel harder than spit 99s as well...super weird.

black wheels look sick tho.

[Banned from the room]

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Apologies if this has been discussed, but I'm curious if anyone has experience using Powell Dragons (or the Bones equivalent) as filmer wheels?

I'm going on a trip and don't want to have to bring two setups/sets of wheels and it sounds like these would be a pretty decent option for both skating and filming. I'm just not sure if they're smooth and quiet enough to be comparable to something like a Spitfire cruiser wheel that I usually would film with, but assume they're quieter than a normal F4 or something.

[close]

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A little off topic now, but I ended up riding a set of 54mm Dragons on this trip and as much as I was hoping I'd love them, I did not. They were great as a replacement for having both a normal setup and a filmer board, but it just felt kind of like a shitty version of both. A bit too loud and small for filming (probably just because I'm used to a monster truck filmer board) and too soft and..."springy sounding" for a regular board (I'm used to small heavily used F4s).

Was kinda hoping I'd love them and just ride these wheels forever, but unfortunately it's not for me.

[close]

I think the end conclusion for us is start having 3 completes. 

[close]

I'm hovering at two right now...a long WB board with rails, wide trucks, 54mm x97s, it's 'the curb' board, without being an unruly ugly floppingflips shaped curb board and a more tech/plaza board (shorter wb, small 101 classics, ventures; tho I could get away with x99s here).

[close]

haven’t tried x99s, but small 101 classics, in the perfect circumstances, seems like such a pleasant, luxurious experience.
wrong circumstances and i’d want to go home. immediately.
but some decent brick!? i love it

[close]

After being back on 103s stfs /101a spits for close to two weeks (about a week each), I'm struggling to enjoy the x97s / x99s except on the most crustyliscious of spots...everything feels dead and slow after...however skating to the spots is a different story....

[close]

as everyone here has read me whine about, so many times: venture lo’s = 51s = walking to the spot. and when i’m at ‘the spot’ it is just me, an old man, bailing flatground trick attempts….well, that starts to feel a little bleak. the ride to the spot is more the thing.
i do not have high hopes for these 52 x97s. i’ll know this weekend.

[close]

turns outs the 52 x97s are pretty alright!
the white is decent, not cheap wheel white, not potato brown.
i like the v1 shape.
wheelbite with the lo’s is pretty savage
the formula is really decent: little backside 180 guerrero slides can be the eject button with soft wheels, these do fine. i only skated them flatground, and they did take some of the sting out of the session, which is very welcomed.
i did let myself get talked into setting them up
graphics out, by the punk-ass 5 year old i was hanging with, but that’s on me.

[close]

Nice, enjoy them!

I setup my black 54mm V6 x99s again, coming off white x99s and damn, the black x99s are so much harder feeling than the white x99s, either that or I'm crazy...they def feel harder than spit 99s as well...super weird.

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black wheels look sick tho.

Gleaming the cube told us that the black wheels are a rougher but faster ride. Yahboe or whatever his name was said it when he hooked up the board that me and my friends hated.
So must be idk tho.

I do know I'm on the right wheel again. I guess conical 58s 97a are also my shit. I had 56s in 2016. Different duro tjo. Way faster grinds than the radial but they're both dope af.

Very very happy rn. Except the fuckin snow storm that's about to hit. Sigh

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Apologies if this has been discussed, but I'm curious if anyone has experience using Powell Dragons (or the Bones equivalent) as filmer wheels?

I'm going on a trip and don't want to have to bring two setups/sets of wheels and it sounds like these would be a pretty decent option for both skating and filming. I'm just not sure if they're smooth and quiet enough to be comparable to something like a Spitfire cruiser wheel that I usually would film with, but assume they're quieter than a normal F4 or something.

[close]

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A little off topic now, but I ended up riding a set of 54mm Dragons on this trip and as much as I was hoping I'd love them, I did not. They were great as a replacement for having both a normal setup and a filmer board, but it just felt kind of like a shitty version of both. A bit too loud and small for filming (probably just because I'm used to a monster truck filmer board) and too soft and..."springy sounding" for a regular board (I'm used to small heavily used F4s).

Was kinda hoping I'd love them and just ride these wheels forever, but unfortunately it's not for me.

[close]

I think the end conclusion for us is start having 3 completes. 

[close]

I'm hovering at two right now...a long WB board with rails, wide trucks, 54mm x97s, it's 'the curb' board, without being an unruly ugly floppingflips shaped curb board and a more tech/plaza board (shorter wb, small 101 classics, ventures; tho I could get away with x99s here).

[close]

haven’t tried x99s, but small 101 classics, in the perfect circumstances, seems like such a pleasant, luxurious experience.
wrong circumstances and i’d want to go home. immediately.
but some decent brick!? i love it

[close]

After being back on 103s stfs /101a spits for close to two weeks (about a week each), I'm struggling to enjoy the x97s / x99s except on the most crustyliscious of spots...everything feels dead and slow after...however skating to the spots is a different story....

[close]

as everyone here has read me whine about, so many times: venture lo’s = 51s = walking to the spot. and when i’m at ‘the spot’ it is just me, an old man, bailing flatground trick attempts….well, that starts to feel a little bleak. the ride to the spot is more the thing.
i do not have high hopes for these 52 x97s. i’ll know this weekend.

[close]

turns outs the 52 x97s are pretty alright!
the white is decent, not cheap wheel white, not potato brown.
i like the v1 shape.
wheelbite with the lo’s is pretty savage
the formula is really decent: little backside 180 guerrero slides can be the eject button with soft wheels, these do fine. i only skated them flatground, and they did take some of the sting out of the session, which is very welcomed.
i did let myself get talked into setting them up
graphics out, by the punk-ass 5 year old i was hanging with, but that’s on me.

[close]

Nice, enjoy them!

I setup my black 54mm V6 x99s again, coming off white x99s and damn, the black x99s are so much harder feeling than the white x99s, either that or I'm crazy...they def feel harder than spit 99s as well...super weird.

[close]

black wheels look sick tho.

[close]

Gleaming the cube told us that the black wheels are a rougher but faster ride. Yahboe or whatever his name was said it when he hooked up the board that me and my friends hated.
So must be idk tho.

I do know I'm on the right wheel again. I guess conical 58s 97a are also my shit. I had 56s in 2016. Different duro tjo. Way faster grinds than the radial but they're both dope af.

Very very happy rn. Except the fuckin snow storm that's about to hit. Sigh

i was super stoked on the idea of setting up some extra rad board.
but then what they setup was a little….movie was great tho.

[maggotspawn]

How are the Spitfire Sapphires? How are they compared to Dragons?

[Banned from the room]

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Apologies if this has been discussed, but I'm curious if anyone has experience using Powell Dragons (or the Bones equivalent) as filmer wheels?

I'm going on a trip and don't want to have to bring two setups/sets of wheels and it sounds like these would be a pretty decent option for both skating and filming. I'm just not sure if they're smooth and quiet enough to be comparable to something like a Spitfire cruiser wheel that I usually would film with, but assume they're quieter than a normal F4 or something.

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A little off topic now, but I ended up riding a set of 54mm Dragons on this trip and as much as I was hoping I'd love them, I did not. They were great as a replacement for having both a normal setup and a filmer board, but it just felt kind of like a shitty version of both. A bit too loud and small for filming (probably just because I'm used to a monster truck filmer board) and too soft and..."springy sounding" for a regular board (I'm used to small heavily used F4s).

Was kinda hoping I'd love them and just ride these wheels forever, but unfortunately it's not for me.

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I think the end conclusion for us is start having 3 completes. 

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I'm hovering at two right now...a long WB board with rails, wide trucks, 54mm x97s, it's 'the curb' board, without being an unruly ugly floppingflips shaped curb board and a more tech/plaza board (shorter wb, small 101 classics, ventures; tho I could get away with x99s here).

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haven’t tried x99s, but small 101 classics, in the perfect circumstances, seems like such a pleasant, luxurious experience.
wrong circumstances and i’d want to go home. immediately.
but some decent brick!? i love it

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After being back on 103s stfs /101a spits for close to two weeks (about a week each), I'm struggling to enjoy the x97s / x99s except on the most crustyliscious of spots...everything feels dead and slow after...however skating to the spots is a different story....

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as everyone here has read me whine about, so many times: venture lo’s = 51s = walking to the spot. and when i’m at ‘the spot’ it is just me, an old man, bailing flatground trick attempts….well, that starts to feel a little bleak. the ride to the spot is more the thing.
i do not have high hopes for these 52 x97s. i’ll know this weekend.

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turns outs the 52 x97s are pretty alright!
the white is decent, not cheap wheel white, not potato brown.
i like the v1 shape.
wheelbite with the lo’s is pretty savage
the formula is really decent: little backside 180 guerrero slides can be the eject button with soft wheels, these do fine. i only skated them flatground, and they did take some of the sting out of the session, which is very welcomed.
i did let myself get talked into setting them up
graphics out, by the punk-ass 5 year old i was hanging with, but that’s on me.

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Nice, enjoy them!

I setup my black 54mm V6 x99s again, coming off white x99s and damn, the black x99s are so much harder feeling than the white x99s, either that or I'm crazy...they def feel harder than spit 99s as well...super weird.

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black wheels look sick tho.

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Gleaming the cube told us that the black wheels are a rougher but faster ride. Yahboe or whatever his name was said it when he hooked up the board that me and my friends hated.
So must be idk tho.

I do know I'm on the right wheel again. I guess conical 58s 97a are also my shit. I had 56s in 2016. Different duro tjo. Way faster grinds than the radial but they're both dope af.

Very very happy rn. Except the fuckin snow storm that's about to hit. Sigh

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i was super stoked on the idea of setting up some extra rad board.
but then what they setup was a little….movie was great tho.

I love that flick. It made me feel like there's a way to reach a common respect between us and the jerks who was against us.
A well loved actor skating in the theater! And he's a hero too! We gonna break through and then the world will let us slide and I'll be able to roll forever and be treated like an actual artist.

Nope! Didn't even effect my dad. Lol.

My dad was like Rodney's x1000000. Gonna beat that ass with a yardstick and cut the bloards up with a saw nice and slow and loud underneath your bedroom window just to let you know it's the reason you suck.

[Banned from the room]

My step ma's heart was melted by the Simpsons. She bought me mad Bart shit. I was like her Bart I guess. I was thankful for the Simpsons when it dropped. My family was basically that.
I still got some of the stuff she skate stuff she bought me.

Her sister wanted to try and send me out west to sf. She said she asked the older homies. I was like no. Lol. Wtf?!? Ha stupid ass kid.

[Mbrimson88]

How are the Spitfire Sapphires? How are they compared to Dragons?

I haven't seen or tried them, but a few people have.  This might be the best comment on them so far for you:

Tried sone Spitfire sapphires at the park today and was pleasantly surprised. Dude had them and was pretty into them. I only rolled around a bit and did a couple of 180s slides but they felt unique in a good way. Soft but not gummy and held their speed. He said he dug them on shit surfaces also. Pretty sure, nose/ tail/ blunt sidles would be pretty hard do to slide on them...

[frtzgn95]

can anyone who uses dragons answer me? i would like to buy one. here is my question: how durable are they, did anyone measure it? i would think to buy a 54mm v1 shape. it is the skinnier one and i want it coz i think it slides easier. how much will it take to wear down to under 50 on daily riding? do i need do buy a new pair every month?

i just hate to skate to spots with hard wheels. walking is almost easier. i want softer wheel.

[moonordie]

Today I skated my X99 for the last time, great wheels but I'm way too used to F4 99.

[tzhangdox]

can anyone who uses dragons answer me? i would like to buy one. here is my question: how durable are they, did anyone measure it? i would think to buy a 54mm v1 shape. it is the skinnier one and i want it coz i think it slides easier. how much will it take to wear down to under 50 on daily riding? do i need do buy a new pair every month?

i just hate to skate to spots with hard wheels. walking is almost easier. i want softer wheel.

they wear down faster than f4s for sure

[frtzgn95]

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can anyone who uses dragons answer me? i would like to buy one. here is my question: how durable are they, did anyone measure it? i would think to buy a 54mm v1 shape. it is the skinnier one and i want it coz i think it slides easier. how much will it take to wear down to under 50 on daily riding? do i need do buy a new pair every month?

i just hate to skate to spots with hard wheels. walking is almost easier. i want softer wheel.

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they wear down faster than f4s for sure

thanks. it sounds really fast.

[munchbox]

Today I skated my X99 for the last time, great wheels but I'm way too used to F4 99.

aight thats the last sign to just go with x97s
i think its a fools errand to try and replace f4 99a

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Today I skated my X99 for the last time, great wheels but I'm way too used to F4 99.

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aight thats the last sign to just go with x97s
i think its a fools errand to try and replace f4 99a

haven’t tried x99s.
haven’t spent that much time on the dragons.

first few rides on x97s and i’m impressed. haven’t tried them at a skatepark, but they are nice in the road

[Jack Locke]

Just set up some Powell Nano Cubic 58mm 97a. Coming from well worn 60mm Spit 97a conical fulls. Absolutely loved my Spits, these felt really good too. Not sure about smooth parks, but I'm guessing decent. These are on Venture 6.1 with Real risers. Like how they open up the axle. Even better power slide feel

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I’m rocking some old beige conical 99F4s. I got 3 X formula wheels on ice I’d like to try as soon as I’m done with this deck. V6 97 and 99. It’s rough as hell anywhere outside the park here. I’m impatiently waiting to try the softer duro to see if it really makes skating rough terrain feel smooth(er).

Finally skated my x97s… and I’m impressed… these dampen, for the lack of a better word, the rough ground if that makes sense… I don’t slow down or feel every vibration from the rough ground. As opposed to F4s where I just get tired of pushing and say fuck it. Very grippy and u have to put some muscle in to slide these wheels unless you’re going Mach 10. Kinda slow on smooth surfaces. I’m sold on these and of the x99s feel good too, and I don’t really think I need 99s, I’m done with buying spitfire’s trash ass wheels.

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I’m rocking some old beige conical 99F4s. I got 3 X formula wheels on ice I’d like to try as soon as I’m done with this deck. V6 97 and 99. It’s rough as hell anywhere outside the park here. I’m impatiently waiting to try the softer duro to see if it really makes skating rough terrain feel smooth(er).

Finally skated my x97s… and I’m impressed… these dampen, for the lack of a better word, the rough ground if that makes sense… I don’t slow down or feel every vibration from the rough ground, and actually entices me to push harder and skate faster as opposed to F4s where I just get tired of pushing and say fuck it. Very grippy and u have to put some muscle in to slide these wheels unless you’re going Mach 10. Kinda slow on smooth surfaces. I’m sold on these and of the x99s feel good too, and I don’t really think I need 99s, I’m done with buying spitfire’s trash ass wheels.

Basically for me, x97s make it less tiring to skate rough ground and F4 99s make it more tiring due to the feel.

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Today I skated my X99 for the last time, great wheels but I'm way too used to F4 99.

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aight thats the last sign to just go with x97s
i think its a fools errand to try and replace f4 99a

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haven’t tried x99s.
haven’t spent that much time on the dragons.

first few rides on x97s and i’m impressed. haven’t tried them at a skatepark, but they are nice in the road

X99 are great if you hit street and no perfect ground plazas. In my case I skate places with pretty much perfect ground with the exception of Stalin.
Put back my trusty CF 99 53mm and couldn't be happier with the sole exception that while doing it I realized that 4 bearingd are fucked

[rikki]

Anyone been on Dial Tone wheels lately? Especially interested in the 101a's. How are they?

[rocklobster]

Anyone been on Dial Tone wheels lately? Especially interested in the 101a's. How are they?

Rode these for a bit while I was on a Classics phase, standard Creative wheels, serviceable but not outstanding, solid wheel for the the $25 range but at full price I'd top up the few dollars for Bones X97 / X99 or Spitfire.