DLX Shapes

[RichardBarkley]

This one might be a go for the shorter board people, from the latest Real catalog:

There's an Ishod in this shape too. Gonna try with venture lows

[Hazesack]

Is the Worrest TT 8.3 exactly the same as the Ishod 8.3? If so, perfect.

[Woodshop]

What is the main difference (shape wise), between the 8.12 (31.2/14.25) and the 8.125 (32/14.25)? For awhile I thought they were the same, just listed differently (e.g. 8.12 and 8.125), but then I noticed DLX listing them with different lengths and realized they must be distinctly different decks??

I normally ride the 8.25", so I haven't looked real close at 8" DLX decks. Also, I feel like I've seen the black AH eagle listed as both 8.12 and 8.125. Throw in the 8.06 (31.8/14.38), and there is a lot going on in the 8" DLX world.

For width 8.12 is the same as 8.125 - some shops shorten it, or don't mind which number they list, but it is the same width.

https://www.antiheroskateboards.com/

Even on the latest AH catalog, one pic for the Medicine series has 8.125 x 32 with 14.25 wb and the eagles only has 8.12 but it is the same board.  I used to ride that shape over a number of years, almost always the black eagle and they were great for me, but I know a lot of people didn't like the 6.75" tail which they have.

The other smaller board has around a 6.4" tail which is way too short for me, but others who have it thought it worked well, so it is down to personal preference really.

What is annoying is some sites, including the DLX catalogs have them listed incorrectly, which then causes confusion.


Also just to clarify, the shorter one is 8.12 x 31.38 with a 14.0 wheelbase, so totally different to the longer 8.12 / 8.125 board.

[Woodshop]

Is the Worrest TT 8.3 exactly the same as the Ishod 8.3? If so, perfect.

Bobby liked it so much when he skated it on the Aussie tour that they made one for him too, see the sticker for the details.

Yes it is the same shape.

[Woodshop]

is there a dlx 8.25 or 8.375 that has a 14.25 wheelbase and 31.7 - 32 length? the main 8.25 shape they're running has a 14.38 wb and the 8.375 is almost always 32.25 with a 14.5 wheelbase. i've seen one real ishod board that was just that 8.25 shape but with a 14.25 wb and a krooked 8.38 x 31.7 with a 14.1 wheelbase, which would be my perfect shape if the wheelbase was just an eighth longer. i've skated a snack that was a 10/10 shape, 14.25 wb and about 31.7 long (ps stix 32.125) but it broke in 4 sessions and now i'm skating a girl g016 which feels nice but i've never had a girl board before and i'm not so sure about the wood, and they're hard to find anyway. if i can't find anything i'm probably gonna end up on the shorter 8.5 shape. i had a magenta board that was 8.375 with a 14.25 wheelbase and i believe 31.875 length, that's bbs wood also afaik but i've never seen a dlx board on that shape.

I have had a few of the 8.4 x 32 with 14.25 wheelbase, which are a good shape and comfortable board to ride, usually coming out every second catalog across any of the DLX brands, maybe more Antihero than others, but the first one I got was a Real deck in that shape.  It is definitely a little more nimble than the usual 8.5 sized boards, which is why it was a good one for me.




Also this one is maybe the closest in those dimensions, but I haven't seen any in person so don't know how it measures up:

Krooked Aanderson 8.38 x 32 with 14.25 wb (not to be confused with the normal 8.38 x 32.25 with 14.5 wb)

[Sedition]

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What is the main difference (shape wise), between the 8.12 (31.2/14.25) and the 8.125 (32/14.25)? For awhile I thought they were the same, just listed differently (e.g. 8.12 and 8.125), but then I noticed DLX listing them with different lengths and realized they must be distinctly different decks??

I normally ride the 8.25", so I haven't looked real close at 8" DLX decks. Also, I feel like I've seen the black AH eagle listed as both 8.12 and 8.125. Throw in the 8.06 (31.8/14.38), and there is a lot going on in the 8" DLX world.

[close]

For width 8.12 is the same as 8.125 - some shops shorten it, or don't mind which number they list, but it is the same width.

https://www.antiheroskateboards.com/

Even on the latest AH catalog, one pic for the Medicine series has 8.125 x 32 with 14.25 wb and the eagles only has 8.12 but it is the same board.  I used to ride that shape over a number of years, almost always the black eagle and they were great for me, but I know a lot of people didn't like the 6.75" tail which they have.

The other smaller board has around a 6.4" tail which is way too short for me, but others who have it thought it worked well, so it is down to personal preference really.

What is annoying is some sites, including the DLX catalogs have them listed incorrectly, which then causes confusion.


Also just to clarify, the shorter one is 8.12 x 31.38 with a 14.0 wheelbase, so totally different to the longer 8.12 / 8.125 board.

The current AH catalog lists two Kanfoush decks.

(1) Medicine series. 8.125, 32, 14.25

(2) Motel 18 series. 8.12, 31.32, 14.25

Are these the same deck, listed incorrectly, or two different ones?

[Woodshop]

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What is the main difference (shape wise), between the 8.12 (31.2/14.25) and the 8.125 (32/14.25)? For awhile I thought they were the same, just listed differently (e.g. 8.12 and 8.125), but then I noticed DLX listing them with different lengths and realized they must be distinctly different decks??

I normally ride the 8.25", so I haven't looked real close at 8" DLX decks. Also, I feel like I've seen the black AH eagle listed as both 8.12 and 8.125. Throw in the 8.06 (31.8/14.38), and there is a lot going on in the 8" DLX world.

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For width 8.12 is the same as 8.125 - some shops shorten it, or don't mind which number they list, but it is the same width.

https://www.antiheroskateboards.com/

Even on the latest AH catalog, one pic for the Medicine series has 8.125 x 32 with 14.25 wb and the eagles only has 8.12 but it is the same board.  I used to ride that shape over a number of years, almost always the black eagle and they were great for me, but I know a lot of people didn't like the 6.75" tail which they have.

The other smaller board has around a 6.4" tail which is way too short for me, but others who have it thought it worked well, so it is down to personal preference really.

What is annoying is some sites, including the DLX catalogs have them listed incorrectly, which then causes confusion.


Also just to clarify, the shorter one is 8.12 x 31.38 with a 14.0 wheelbase, so totally different to the longer 8.12 / 8.125 board.

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The current AH catalog lists two Kanfoush decks.

(1) Medicine series. 8.125, 32, 14.25

(2) Motel 18 series. 8.12, 32.32, 14.25

Are these the same deck, listed incorrectly, or two different ones?

Ha yeah I missed the Motel one.

Incorrectly listed.

Seems like all the 8.12 width decks have been mixed up, but as per other comments on here, someone found one of the catalog boards which was definitely 8.12 x 32 with 14.25 wb.

I will have a look at some shops and see if they have it in and see what they have it listed as, or even if some other places have it that might not list dimensions and ask them about it.


It is a weird one though.


Edit:

From an Aussie shop I trust...


ANTI HERO - AUSTIN KANFOUSH MOTEL 18 8.12" SKATEBOARD DECK
$139.00
Info
WIDTH
8.12
LENGTH
32
WHEEL BASE
14.25


Two other shops also come up wtih the 32 length as well, so it was just whoever did the DLX catalog didn't know what they were doing.

https://www.tactics.com/anti-hero/kanfoush-motel-18-812-skateboard-deck/blue

https://www.skatedeluxe.com/en/anti-hero-kanfoush-motel-18-8-12-deck-multi_p152837

[Sedition]

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What is the main difference (shape wise), between the 8.12 (31.2/14.25) and the 8.125 (32/14.25)? For awhile I thought they were the same, just listed differently (e.g. 8.12 and 8.125), but then I noticed DLX listing them with different lengths and realized they must be distinctly different decks??

I normally ride the 8.25", so I haven't looked real close at 8" DLX decks. Also, I feel like I've seen the black AH eagle listed as both 8.12 and 8.125. Throw in the 8.06 (31.8/14.38), and there is a lot going on in the 8" DLX world.

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For width 8.12 is the same as 8.125 - some shops shorten it, or don't mind which number they list, but it is the same width.

https://www.antiheroskateboards.com/

Even on the latest AH catalog, one pic for the Medicine series has 8.125 x 32 with 14.25 wb and the eagles only has 8.12 but it is the same board.  I used to ride that shape over a number of years, almost always the black eagle and they were great for me, but I know a lot of people didn't like the 6.75" tail which they have.

The other smaller board has around a 6.4" tail which is way too short for me, but others who have it thought it worked well, so it is down to personal preference really.

What is annoying is some sites, including the DLX catalogs have them listed incorrectly, which then causes confusion.


Also just to clarify, the shorter one is 8.12 x 31.38 with a 14.0 wheelbase, so totally different to the longer 8.12 / 8.125 board.

[close]

The current AH catalog lists two Kanfoush decks.

(1) Medicine series. 8.125, 32, 14.25

(2) Motel 18 series. 8.12, 32.32, 14.25

Are these the same deck, listed incorrectly, or two different ones?

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Ha yeah I missed the Motel one.

Incorrectly listed.

Seems like all the 8.12 width decks have been mixed up, but as per other comments on here, someone found one of the catalog boards which was definitely 8.12 x 32 with 14.25 wb.

I will have a look at some shops and see if they have it in and see what they have it listed as, or even if some other places have it that might not list dimensions and ask them about it.


It is a weird one though.


Edit:

From an Aussie shop I trust...


ANTI HERO - AUSTIN KANFOUSH MOTEL 18 8.12" SKATEBOARD DECK
$139.00
Info
WIDTH
8.12
LENGTH
32
WHEEL BASE
14.25


Two other shops also come up wtih the 32 length as well, so it was just whoever did the DLX catalog didn't know what they were doing.

https://www.tactics.com/anti-hero/kanfoush-motel-18-812-skateboard-deck/blue

https://www.skatedeluxe.com/en/anti-hero-kanfoush-motel-18-8-12-deck-multi_p152837

I have long learned to NOT trust on-line shop deck dimensions listings…

[Woodshop]

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What is the main difference (shape wise), between the 8.12 (31.2/14.25) and the 8.125 (32/14.25)? For awhile I thought they were the same, just listed differently (e.g. 8.12 and 8.125), but then I noticed DLX listing them with different lengths and realized they must be distinctly different decks??

I normally ride the 8.25", so I haven't looked real close at 8" DLX decks. Also, I feel like I've seen the black AH eagle listed as both 8.12 and 8.125. Throw in the 8.06 (31.8/14.38), and there is a lot going on in the 8" DLX world.

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For width 8.12 is the same as 8.125 - some shops shorten it, or don't mind which number they list, but it is the same width.

https://www.antiheroskateboards.com/

Even on the latest AH catalog, one pic for the Medicine series has 8.125 x 32 with 14.25 wb and the eagles only has 8.12 but it is the same board.  I used to ride that shape over a number of years, almost always the black eagle and they were great for me, but I know a lot of people didn't like the 6.75" tail which they have.

The other smaller board has around a 6.4" tail which is way too short for me, but others who have it thought it worked well, so it is down to personal preference really.

What is annoying is some sites, including the DLX catalogs have them listed incorrectly, which then causes confusion.


Also just to clarify, the shorter one is 8.12 x 31.38 with a 14.0 wheelbase, so totally different to the longer 8.12 / 8.125 board.

[close]

The current AH catalog lists two Kanfoush decks.

(1) Medicine series. 8.125, 32, 14.25

(2) Motel 18 series. 8.12, 32.32, 14.25

Are these the same deck, listed incorrectly, or two different ones?

[close]

Ha yeah I missed the Motel one.

Incorrectly listed.

Seems like all the 8.12 width decks have been mixed up, but as per other comments on here, someone found one of the catalog boards which was definitely 8.12 x 32 with 14.25 wb.

I will have a look at some shops and see if they have it in and see what they have it listed as, or even if some other places have it that might not list dimensions and ask them about it.


It is a weird one though.


Edit:

From an Aussie shop I trust...


ANTI HERO - AUSTIN KANFOUSH MOTEL 18 8.12" SKATEBOARD DECK
$139.00
Info
WIDTH
8.12
LENGTH
32
WHEEL BASE
14.25


Two other shops also come up wtih the 32 length as well, so it was just whoever did the DLX catalog didn't know what they were doing.

https://www.tactics.com/anti-hero/kanfoush-motel-18-812-skateboard-deck/blue

https://www.skatedeluxe.com/en/anti-hero-kanfoush-motel-18-8-12-deck-multi_p152837

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I have long learned to NOT trust on-line shop deck dimensions listings…

But these ones actually measure the decks, as well as read the DLX sticker on them that states 8.12 x 32 with 14.25 wb.

One other shop showed the DLX sticker too.


Not a worry who you trust, but I do know what you mean, as some other places seem to just list dimensions they were given on a spread sheet, without ever seeing the deck in question.



Those boards are all 8.12 x 32 with 14.25 wb.

[Roisto]

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What is the main difference (shape wise), between the 8.12 (31.2/14.25) and the 8.125 (32/14.25)? For awhile I thought they were the same, just listed differently (e.g. 8.12 and 8.125), but then I noticed DLX listing them with different lengths and realized they must be distinctly different decks??

I normally ride the 8.25", so I haven't looked real close at 8" DLX decks. Also, I feel like I've seen the black AH eagle listed as both 8.12 and 8.125. Throw in the 8.06 (31.8/14.38), and there is a lot going on in the 8" DLX world.

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For width 8.12 is the same as 8.125 - some shops shorten it, or don't mind which number they list, but it is the same width.

https://www.antiheroskateboards.com/

Even on the latest AH catalog, one pic for the Medicine series has 8.125 x 32 with 14.25 wb and the eagles only has 8.12 but it is the same board.  I used to ride that shape over a number of years, almost always the black eagle and they were great for me, but I know a lot of people didn't like the 6.75" tail which they have.

The other smaller board has around a 6.4" tail which is way too short for me, but others who have it thought it worked well, so it is down to personal preference really.

What is annoying is some sites, including the DLX catalogs have them listed incorrectly, which then causes confusion.


Also just to clarify, the shorter one is 8.12 x 31.38 with a 14.0 wheelbase, so totally different to the longer 8.12 / 8.125 board.

[close]

The current AH catalog lists two Kanfoush decks.

(1) Medicine series. 8.125, 32, 14.25

(2) Motel 18 series. 8.12, 32.32, 14.25

Are these the same deck, listed incorrectly, or two different ones?

[close]

Ha yeah I missed the Motel one.

Incorrectly listed.

Seems like all the 8.12 width decks have been mixed up, but as per other comments on here, someone found one of the catalog boards which was definitely 8.12 x 32 with 14.25 wb.

I will have a look at some shops and see if they have it in and see what they have it listed as, or even if some other places have it that might not list dimensions and ask them about it.


It is a weird one though.


Edit:

From an Aussie shop I trust...


ANTI HERO - AUSTIN KANFOUSH MOTEL 18 8.12" SKATEBOARD DECK
$139.00
Info
WIDTH
8.12
LENGTH
32
WHEEL BASE
14.25


Two other shops also come up wtih the 32 length as well, so it was just whoever did the DLX catalog didn't know what they were doing.

https://www.tactics.com/anti-hero/kanfoush-motel-18-812-skateboard-deck/blue

https://www.skatedeluxe.com/en/anti-hero-kanfoush-motel-18-8-12-deck-multi_p152837

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I have long learned to NOT trust on-line shop deck dimensions listings…

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But these ones actually measure the decks, as well as read the DLX sticker on them that states 8.12 x 32 with 14.25 wb.

One other shop showed the DLX sticker too.


Not a worry who you trust, but I do know what you mean, as some other places seem to just list dimensions they were given on a spread sheet, without ever seeing the deck in question.



Those boards are all 8.12 x 32 with 14.25 wb.

Skatedeluxe is pretty good with dimensions but they do make mistakes as well and they’re not all that uncommon. Being European and trying to measure something with an inch measuring tape, it’s too easy to make mistakes not being used to the 1/16th fractions that are used for inches. And tiny errors are easy to make regardless. Also they don’t measure everything. For example Polar decks they have with the incorrect specs from Polar instead of measuring them themselves.

[Eds_gallerist]

I have been switching over to the chima 8.06 shape since the 8.12 x31.3x14 is not to be found in the recent dlx drops. I enjoy skating the 8.06 but would like to get my hands on the other shape again, hope it is not discontinued. I hit up dlx and will get back once they replied.

[RichardBarkley]

I have been switching over to the chima 8.06 shape since the 8.12 x31.3x14 is not to be found in the recent dlx drops. I enjoy skating the 8.06 but would like to get my hands on the other shape again, hope it is not discontinued. I hit up dlx and will get back once they replied.

What trucks you using with it ? I want to with Venture low 5.2

[Eds_gallerist]

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I have been switching over to the chima 8.06 shape since the 8.12 x31.3x14 is not to be found in the recent dlx drops. I enjoy skating the 8.06 but would like to get my hands on the other shape again, hope it is not discontinued. I hit up dlx and will get back once they replied.

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What trucks you using with it ? I want to with Venture low 5.2

Thunder 148 currently. Guess they shorten the wheelbase even further but I dig it.

[typeischeap]

Interesting that there are no 8.5/14.5 in the DLX mix right now other than the Ishod comfy twin tail? There's a 8.38 shape in 14.38 or 14.5 and 8.6 shape in 14.6 (which I'm running now). I'm probably over thinking this trying to trim an eighth off my existing setup but this is SLAP S&G so seems I'm in good company, lol.

Is the Ishod really 8.5?

[roba]

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is there a dlx 8.25 or 8.375 that has a 14.25 wheelbase and 31.7 - 32 length? the main 8.25 shape they're running has a 14.38 wb and the 8.375 is almost always 32.25 with a 14.5 wheelbase. i've seen one real ishod board that was just that 8.25 shape but with a 14.25 wb and a krooked 8.38 x 31.7 with a 14.1 wheelbase, which would be my perfect shape if the wheelbase was just an eighth longer. i've skated a snack that was a 10/10 shape, 14.25 wb and about 31.7 long (ps stix 32.125) but it broke in 4 sessions and now i'm skating a girl g016 which feels nice but i've never had a girl board before and i'm not so sure about the wood, and they're hard to find anyway. if i can't find anything i'm probably gonna end up on the shorter 8.5 shape. i had a magenta board that was 8.375 with a 14.25 wheelbase and i believe 31.875 length, that's bbs wood also afaik but i've never seen a dlx board on that shape.

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I have had a few of the 8.4 x 32 with 14.25 wheelbase, which are a good shape and comfortable board to ride, usually coming out every second catalog across any of the DLX brands, maybe more Antihero than others, but the first one I got was a Real deck in that shape.  It is definitely a little more nimble than the usual 8.5 sized boards, which is why it was a good one for me.




Also this one is maybe the closest in those dimensions, but I haven't seen any in person so don't know how it measures up:

Krooked Aanderson 8.38 x 32 with 14.25 wb (not to be confused with the normal 8.38 x 32.25 with 14.5 wb)

i knew about that krooked but it's nowhere to be found in poland. that antihero on the other hand is available at some skate shops so i might check it out, but to be honest i'm not really sure if i want a 32 inch long board just to take a millimeter off each side of the board when the 8.5 is 31.8 long. also, i'd much rather stick to one shape for as long as possible and there are like 10 different boards available on the distributors website in the 8.5 x 31.8 shape, whereas that antihero is the only deck in that shape. i work at a shop and we have a few of these 8.5s so i've been comparing them to the board i'm skating and they don't look like they would be that hard to adjust to...

[mattdlx]

Also confirming that both those Austins are the 14.25wb. Just measured both.

[Woodshop]

i knew about that krooked but it's nowhere to be found in poland. that antihero on the other hand is available at some skate shops so i might check it out, but to be honest i'm not really sure if i want a 32 inch long board just to take a millimeter off each side of the board when the 8.5 is 31.8 long. also, i'd much rather stick to one shape for as long as possible and there are like 10 different boards available on the distributors website in the 8.5 x 31.8 shape, whereas that antihero is the only deck in that shape. i work at a shop and we have a few of these 8.5s so i've been comparing them to the board i'm skating and they don't look like they would be that hard to adjust to...

That is why I went mainly for the standard 8.38 x 32.25 / 14.5 wb as I can always get a lot of them and they are almost 8.5 anyway.

Really sucks when you find something you like but then struggle to get more of them.


As others have said the shorter 8.5 often doesn't measure as 8.5 but the few I had I remeasured across the front bolts (8.5), then across the middle (8.4) and then across the back bolts (8.3) so there is some taper to them as well, which I hadn't really heard anyone say before and hadn't really noticed at all either.

Overall it is still a great board, especially if you prefer a slightly shorter one, but as you said, there are lots of them around and look like even more coming as the trend is towards shorter wheelbases.

Give one a try and see how it goes.


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I was going to ask if you had seen or skated any of the Full SE boards as they are shorter, eg 8.25 with 14.25 wb but again you might not have access to them.

[Sedition]

Interesting that there are no 8.5/14.5

A true 8.5/14.5 seems to be something that has been missing from the standard DLX decks for a long time. I'm not sure why. To that end, the 8.5/14.5 Black Label 1988 Thumb-Head graphic has a shape that is almost identical to the DLX 8.25/14.38, but just a tad bigger. BBS, too. 

[Woodshop]

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Interesting that there are no 8.5/14.5

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A true 8.5/14.5 seems to be something that has been missing from the standard DLX decks for a long time. I'm not sure why. To that end, the 8.5/14.5 Black Label 1988 Thumb-Head graphic has a shape that is almost identical to the DLX 8.25/14.38, but just a tad bigger. BBS, too.

Often thought that about the 8.5 with 14.5 wb, but DLX have the slightly different version of 8.5 x 32.25 with 14.38 wb and slightly more tapered kicks, when compared to the other BBS 8.5 board shape.

Considering it is a standard BBS / Generator size and shape, the 8.5 x 32.25 to 32.5 (depending on who you ask) with 14.5 wb is used for many other brands, about six different brands of which I have, all the same size and shape, even if those companies do state different lengths,  so maybe it is more about doing their own thing and their team riders and others not really wanting that size and shape.

On the other hand it could be a good thing, so as to keep DLX product a little more separate, so I have no issue riding whatever size and shape as long as it is comfortable for me and even though I tend to go more for DLX boards, they are not the only ones I ride.

[LebowskisRug]

The 8.25 Manderson is definitely not a small or similar shape. The kicks are longer, steeper, and more squared than any other DLX deck. I hated mine. The 8.5 is noticeably smaller in every respect and lining them up you can barely see the width difference.

[Woodshop]

The 8.25 Manderson is definitely not a small or similar shape. The kicks are longer, steeper, and more squared than any other DLX deck. I hated mine. The 8.5 is noticeably smaller in every respect and lining them up you can barely see the width difference.

I do recall seeing your pics of it before.

Which graphic was it?

And that one was the 8.38 x 32 with 14.25 wb wasn't it, or at least that was what was listed in the catalog.

[Dan Gerous]

Is the Ishod really 8.5?

Yes, the Ishod 8.5 TT is really 8.5 wide with a 14.5 wheelbase, but it's slightly shorter overall than they list, it's 32 long, not 32.2. The tails are much rounder/fuller compared to the other sizes.

[fs1/2cab]

I normally ride the 8.25/14.38. I had an 8.4 laying around, and in light of recent posts I decided to take it out for a spin tonight. What a weird deck. It is the same length as the 8.25. Yet, it seems to feel...shorter?? It's the same width, but seems to feel...wider?? The nose is a tad longer than the 8.25, and that seems to throw off my nollie/switch tricks a bit. The tail isn't as "full" as the 8.25, and this seemed to make the tail feel smaller to me. I def don't like 14.25wb, either. Everything felt way too cramped. After skating for about 20 min on it, I was reminded why I had taken it apart the last time. I put the 8.25 back on, and was like, "OH, GOD YES! THIS DECK IS ECSTASY." So, some kid is going to end up with an almost brand new 8.4 next time I'm at the park. 

DLX 8.25" > All else

Are the DLX 8.25s a true 32" length and 14.38 wb and how long is the tail on that decks?
Most BBS 8.25s are a bit shorter as 32" and have mostly a 14.25 wheelbase, which I much prefer.

[LebowskisRug]

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The 8.25 Manderson is definitely not a small or similar shape. The kicks are longer, steeper, and more squared than any other DLX deck. I hated mine. The 8.5 is noticeably smaller in every respect and lining them up you can barely see the width difference.

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I do recall seeing your pics of it before.

Which graphic was it?

And that one was the 8.38 x 32 with 14.25 wb wasn't it, or at least that was what was listed in the catalog.

So pissed I wasted the McNulty sticker on it.

Here is a comparison to the 8.5



I rode it with Ventures, but never anything else so maybe another truck is better for it. I just found the kicks super fucking big. I'm on a Quasi now which has a steep but shorter nose and a shorter tail and I have no issues with it.

[Woodshop]

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The 8.25 Manderson is definitely not a small or similar shape. The kicks are longer, steeper, and more squared than any other DLX deck. I hated mine. The 8.5 is noticeably smaller in every respect and lining them up you can barely see the width difference.

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I do recall seeing your pics of it before.

Which graphic was it?

And that one was the 8.38 x 32 with 14.25 wb wasn't it, or at least that was what was listed in the catalog.

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So pissed I wasted the McNulty sticker on it.

Here is a comparison to the 8.5


I rode it with Ventures, but never anything else so maybe another truck is better for it. I just found the kicks super fucking big. I'm on a Quasi now which has a steep but shorter nose and a shorter tail and I have no issues with it.

Yeah that thing looks huge, big and wide all round, like a full shape, not just a Full SE, only with a shorter wheelbase, than the usual Full 14.6 and up wheelbases on my other ones.

I know the length of tail has often been an issue for a number of people, with many saying they don't like longer tails, but I find I don't like shorter tails so it is just finding something that works for you.

Still haven't tracked one down in person, but am actually quite keen to see one now, just to compare to other boards I have had or still have.

Thanks for the pics too!

[Woodshop]

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I normally ride the 8.25/14.38. I had an 8.4 laying around, and in light of recent posts I decided to take it out for a spin tonight. What a weird deck. It is the same length as the 8.25. Yet, it seems to feel...shorter?? It's the same width, but seems to feel...wider?? The nose is a tad longer than the 8.25, and that seems to throw off my nollie/switch tricks a bit. The tail isn't as "full" as the 8.25, and this seemed to make the tail feel smaller to me. I def don't like 14.25wb, either. Everything felt way too cramped. After skating for about 20 min on it, I was reminded why I had taken it apart the last time. I put the 8.25 back on, and was like, "OH, GOD YES! THIS DECK IS ECSTASY." So, some kid is going to end up with an almost brand new 8.4 next time I'm at the park. 

DLX 8.25" > All else

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Are the DLX 8.25s a true 32" length and 14.38 wb and how long is the tail on that decks?
Most BBS 8.25s are a bit shorter as 32" and have mostly a 14.25 wheelbase, which I much prefer.

Not to take away from Sedition as he is king of the DLX 8.25 boards, but from having maybe ten or more decks of various brands to compare, I have this to say.

When sitting a Baker / DGK / Element or similar other BBS 8.25 on top of a DLX 8.25 deck, the DLX is bigger all round, even if only by the smallest margin, but definitely a touch wider, slightly longer wheelbase, so similar nose and tail lengths, but DLX slightly longer and more full than most of the other ones, but not all.  It is also on average a slightly steeper concave than the other BBS boards too.

Most BBS are about 8.25 x 31.8 with 14.25 wb, DLX being 8.25 x 32 with 14.38 wb.

If you were considering one or the other, I would say you could very easily skate any of the BBS / DLX 8.25 decks with minimal adjustments to how you would normally skate, maybe adapt within a session or two depending on the individual deck and individual skater, without too many issues.

I had a couple of near new different brand decks setup before Christmas for people and they both felt very comfortable to skate, with the DLX board feeling a touch stiffer, but I put that down to a little more concave.

[Sedition]

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I normally ride the 8.25/14.38. I had an 8.4 laying around, and in light of recent posts I decided to take it out for a spin tonight. What a weird deck. It is the same length as the 8.25. Yet, it seems to feel...shorter?? It's the same width, but seems to feel...wider?? The nose is a tad longer than the 8.25, and that seems to throw off my nollie/switch tricks a bit. The tail isn't as "full" as the 8.25, and this seemed to make the tail feel smaller to me. I def don't like 14.25wb, either. Everything felt way too cramped. After skating for about 20 min on it, I was reminded why I had taken it apart the last time. I put the 8.25 back on, and was like, "OH, GOD YES! THIS DECK IS ECSTASY." So, some kid is going to end up with an almost brand new 8.4 next time I'm at the park. 

DLX 8.25" > All else

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Are the DLX 8.25s a true 32" length and 14.38 wb and how long is the tail on that decks?
Most BBS 8.25s are a bit shorter as 32" and have mostly a 14.25 wheelbase, which I much prefer.

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Not to take away from Sedition as he is king of the DLX 8.25 boards, but from having maybe ten or more decks of various brands to compare, I have this to say.

When sitting a Baker / DGK / Element or similar other BBS 8.25 on top of a DLX 8.25 deck, the DLX is bigger all round, even if only by the smallest margin, but definitely a touch wider, slightly longer wheelbase, so similar nose and tail lengths, but DLX slightly longer and more full than most of the other ones, but not all.  It is also on average a slightly steeper concave than the other BBS boards too.

Most BBS are about 8.25 x 31.8 with 14.25 wb, DLX being 8.25 x 32 with 14.38 wb.

If you were considering one or the other, I would say you could very easily skate any of the BBS / DLX 8.25 decks with minimal adjustments to how you would normally skate, maybe adapt within a session or two depending on the individual deck and individual skater, without too many issues.

I had a couple of near new different brand decks setup before Christmas for people and they both felt very comfortable to skate, with the DLX board feeling a touch stiffer, but I put that down to a little more concave.

I only ride DLX decks, so I don't have many other brand molds to compare them to. The 32/8.25 is the main deck I ride. I can't not even begin to count how many I've had. I'm OCD like that, so I measure every single one before I set it up to see if there is any variance. I have not once found there to be any. Below are measurements I've made on the 32/8.25.

Numbers below were measured with a straight ruler, not bending with concave/kicks. Numbers in parentheses (  ) are measured with a tailor's tape, and do bend with concave/kicks.

Length: 31.75 (32)
Wheelbase: 14.38 (14.38)
Width: 8.25 (8.25)
Nose: 6.81 (6.86)
Tail: 6.5 (6.56)

Related: I actually have/keep an Excel spread sheet with my measured dimensions of every different DLX model I've owned.
 

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...but DLX slightly...more full than most of the other ones...

This is the exact reason I like the 8.25 so much. A lot of popsicles (any brand) have either (a) a really roundish nose (like the 8.4 or 8.28), or (b) a roundish nose/tail that has a tiny hint of "football" (e.g. 8.5/31.8 ). The 8.25" has a nose that is like a hint of rounded, and a hint of "full." The tail isn't as "full" as the nose, but it's not too round, or too pointed. I find it (the 8.25) to be the perfect balance, between these two "extremes." A 14.38" wheelbase is my sweet spot, too. 14.25" and lower, and things start to feel really cramped. 14.5" and over, and things start getting sluggish. I ride Indys, and to that end I've tried Aces on a 14.5, and Thunders on a 14.25, but nothing feels as good (to me) as Indys on a 14.38.   

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Is the Ishod really 8.5?

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Yes, the Ishod 8.5 TT is really 8.5 wide with a 14.5 wheelbase, but it's slightly shorter overall than they list, it's 32 long, not 32.2. The tails are much rounder/fuller compared to the other sizes.

Hmm...this may be the first twin tail for me to try if I can find one. Those graphics tho'. Anyone know if the 8.5 comfy is slick too or just the 8.3? Other option is the Foy if I can pull myself back to 14.38wb (I have an 8.5/14.38 Polar I may setup next to transition over)...

Related: I actually have/keep an Excel spread sheet with my measured dimensions of every different DLX model I've owned.

I thought I was the only one! Six months back and mine's already 13 rows deep. ;-)

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Is the Ishod really 8.5?

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Yes, the Ishod 8.5 TT is really 8.5 wide with a 14.5 wheelbase, but it's slightly shorter overall than they list, it's 32 long, not 32.2. The tails are much rounder/fuller compared to the other sizes.

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Hmm...this may be the first twin tail for me to try if I can find one. Those graphics tho'. Anyone know if the 8.5 comfy is slick too or just the 8.3? Other option is the Foy if I can pull myself back to 14.38wb (I have an 8.5/14.38 Polar I may setup next to transition over)...

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Related: I actually have/keep an Excel spread sheet with my measured dimensions of every different DLX model I've owned.

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I thought I was the only one! Six months back and mine's already 13 rows deep. ;-)

Only the 8.3 DLX twins are slick, so the 8.3 Ishod and the Krooked Worrest that are the same boards with different graphics.

I also have a DW Foy twin but the wheelbase on those is not as advertised, it's 14.28 actually, not 14.38, so a hair over 14.25. Compared to the Ishod 8.5, the tails are also longer at 6.75 and both the kicks and the concave is slightly mellower. It's a very nice shape IMO.