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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #1560 on: August 11, 2022, 10:00:22 PM »
Spec wise it is closer to a full se as it has the shorter WB.

Shape wise, it’s more square than the rest of the dlx offerings, even the fulls.

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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #1561 on: August 11, 2022, 10:03:13 PM »
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I'm on my 3rd Manderson deck right now. Really digging it, I think this is my go to shape for now.

I really like the steep concave, blunt kicks, and the big kinda square nose.

I've had I, III, and currently on a IV, which is still pretty steep.

I've ran indys and aces on the Manderson and I've been preferring aces lately for sure. I don't really get that dead pop that some boards get with aces.

Been wanting to get a pair of 44 classics for the flush fit. I've been running 144s and af1 44s on it.

Also, manuals and nose mannys work way better for me with this shape, I think it's the steeper concave.

Flatground feels noticeably better too
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So whats the difference between the Manderson and a Full? (Or is the Manderson more similar to Full SE?)

Manderson is slightly wider at a true 8.4 and a bit more square. The nose is a tad longer as well. Tail is same length but more square on the Mando. Those 2 factors combined make it look much more blunt and full .

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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #1562 on: August 11, 2022, 10:13:36 PM »
Ah thanks guys. The Manderson sounds nice. I'm currently on my first Full SE and enjoying it for the most part. Sounds like I would like the Manderson even better.

Probably won't be buying a deck for quite a while, so hopefully they are still making them when the time comes.
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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #1563 on: August 11, 2022, 10:18:30 PM »
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I'm on my 3rd Manderson deck right now. Really digging it, I think this is my go to shape for now.

I really like the steep concave, blunt kicks, and the big kinda square nose.

I've had I, III, and currently on a IV, which is still pretty steep.

I've ran indys and aces on the Manderson and I've been preferring aces lately for sure. I don't really get that dead pop that some boards get with aces.

Been wanting to get a pair of 44 classics for the flush fit. I've been running 144s and af1 44s on it.

Also, manuals and nose mannys work way better for me with this shape, I think it's the steeper concave.

Flatground feels noticeably better too
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So whats the difference between the Manderson and a Full? (Or is the Manderson more similar to Full SE?)
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Manderson is slightly wider at a true 8.4 and a bit more square. The nose is a tad longer as well. Tail is same length but more square on the Mando. Those 2 factors combined make it look much more blunt and full .

Difference between the DLX 8.4x32 and Manderson then? Ben Degros said the Manderson is slightly shorter than 32" in his last vid. Any other difference that you know of?

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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #1564 on: August 11, 2022, 10:34:01 PM »
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I'm on my 3rd Manderson deck right now. Really digging it, I think this is my go to shape for now.

I really like the steep concave, blunt kicks, and the big kinda square nose.

I've had I, III, and currently on a IV, which is still pretty steep.

I've ran indys and aces on the Manderson and I've been preferring aces lately for sure. I don't really get that dead pop that some boards get with aces.

Been wanting to get a pair of 44 classics for the flush fit. I've been running 144s and af1 44s on it.

Also, manuals and nose mannys work way better for me with this shape, I think it's the steeper concave.

Flatground feels noticeably better too
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So whats the difference between the Manderson and a Full? (Or is the Manderson more similar to Full SE?)
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Manderson is slightly wider at a true 8.4 and a bit more square. The nose is a tad longer as well. Tail is same length but more square on the Mando. Those 2 factors combined make it look much more blunt and full .
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Difference between the DLX 8.4x32 and Manderson then? Ben Degros said the Manderson is slightly shorter than 32" in his last vid. Any other difference that you know of?


The two board tops on the last page are pretty good to compare:


https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=85076.msg3843396#msg3843396



I have a few of the 8.4 x 32 with 14.25 wb and they really feel like a perfect width size up from the 8.125 black eagle which I had a lot of over the last decade and a half.  The shape is way more normal, rounder and almost pointy without being too pointy, but I think they would have to be almost the same size kicks, as all other dimensions are the same from other websites that list both the boards.

*  The images are huge, so I dropped the scale here.  Click on them for the full size as needed.


https://www.tactics.com/krooked/anderson-1772-838-skateboard-deck


SPECS
SIZE   8.38
WIDTH (IN):   8.38
LENGTH (IN):   32.0
WHEELBASE (IN):   14.25
NOSE (IN):   7.0
TAIL (IN):   6.625





https://www.tactics.com/anti-hero/daan-broadcasting-iii-84-skateboard-deck/blue


SPECS
SIZE   8.4
WIDTH (IN):   8.4
LENGTH (IN):   32.0
WHEELBASE (IN):   14.25
NOSE (IN):   7.06
TAIL (IN):   6.625





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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #1565 on: August 11, 2022, 10:51:59 PM »
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I'm on my 3rd Manderson deck right now. Really digging it, I think this is my go to shape for now.

I really like the steep concave, blunt kicks, and the big kinda square nose.

I've had I, III, and currently on a IV, which is still pretty steep.

I've ran indys and aces on the Manderson and I've been preferring aces lately for sure. I don't really get that dead pop that some boards get with aces.

Been wanting to get a pair of 44 classics for the flush fit. I've been running 144s and af1 44s on it.

Also, manuals and nose mannys work way better for me with this shape, I think it's the steeper concave.

Flatground feels noticeably better too
[close]

So whats the difference between the Manderson and a Full? (Or is the Manderson more similar to Full SE?)
[close]

Manderson is slightly wider at a true 8.4 and a bit more square. The nose is a tad longer as well. Tail is same length but more square on the Mando. Those 2 factors combined make it look much more blunt and full .
[close]

Difference between the DLX 8.4x32 and Manderson then? Ben Degros said the Manderson is slightly shorter than 32" in his last vid. Any other difference that you know of?
[close]


The two board tops on the last page are pretty good to compare:


https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=85076.msg3843396#msg3843396



I have a few of the 8.4 x 32 with 14.25 wb and they really feel like a perfect width size up from the 8.125 black eagle which I had a lot of over the last decade and a half.  The shape is way more normal, rounder and almost pointy without being too pointy, but I think they would have to be almost the same size kicks, as all other dimensions are the same from other websites that list both the boards.

*  The images are huge, so I dropped the scale here.  Click on them for the full size as needed.


https://www.tactics.com/krooked/anderson-1772-838-skateboard-deck


SPECS
SIZE   8.38
WIDTH (IN):   8.38
LENGTH (IN):   32.0
WHEELBASE (IN):   14.25
NOSE (IN):   7.0
TAIL (IN):   6.625





https://www.tactics.com/anti-hero/daan-broadcasting-iii-84-skateboard-deck/blue


SPECS
SIZE   8.4
WIDTH (IN):   8.4
LENGTH (IN):   32.0
WHEELBASE (IN):   14.25
NOSE (IN):   7.06
TAIL (IN):   6.625



You're the best, thanks for the comparison. Yeah that Manderson shape looks nice. Hopefully they've got some good graphics to boot.
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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #1566 on: August 13, 2022, 07:12:56 PM »
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I'm on my 3rd Manderson deck right now. Really digging it, I think this is my go to shape for now.

I really like the steep concave, blunt kicks, and the big kinda square nose.

I've had I, III, and currently on a IV, which is still pretty steep.

I've ran indys and aces on the Manderson and I've been preferring aces lately for sure. I don't really get that dead pop that some boards get with aces.

Been wanting to get a pair of 44 classics for the flush fit. I've been running 144s and af1 44s on it.

Also, manuals and nose mannys work way better for me with this shape, I think it's the steeper concave.

Flatground feels noticeably better too
[close]

So whats the difference between the Manderson and a Full? (Or is the Manderson more similar to Full SE?)
[close]

Manderson is slightly wider at a true 8.4 and a bit more square. The nose is a tad longer as well. Tail is same length but more square on the Mando. Those 2 factors combined make it look much more blunt and full .
[close]

Difference between the DLX 8.4x32 and Manderson then? Ben Degros said the Manderson is slightly shorter than 32" in his last vid. Any other difference that you know of?
[close]


The two board tops on the last page are pretty good to compare:


https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=85076.msg3843396#msg3843396



I have a few of the 8.4 x 32 with 14.25 wb and they really feel like a perfect width size up from the 8.125 black eagle which I had a lot of over the last decade and a half.  The shape is way more normal, rounder and almost pointy without being too pointy, but I think they would have to be almost the same size kicks, as all other dimensions are the same from other websites that list both the boards.

*  The images are huge, so I dropped the scale here.  Click on them for the full size as needed.


https://www.tactics.com/krooked/anderson-1772-838-skateboard-deck


SPECS
SIZE   8.38
WIDTH (IN):   8.38
LENGTH (IN):   32.0
WHEELBASE (IN):   14.25
NOSE (IN):   7.0
TAIL (IN):   6.625





https://www.tactics.com/anti-hero/daan-broadcasting-iii-84-skateboard-deck/blue


SPECS
SIZE   8.4
WIDTH (IN):   8.4
LENGTH (IN):   32.0
WHEELBASE (IN):   14.25
NOSE (IN):   7.06
TAIL (IN):   6.625


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You're the best, thanks for the comparison. Yeah that Manderson shape looks nice. Hopefully they've got some good graphics to boot.

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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #1567 on: August 13, 2022, 07:31:19 PM »
I think this is a new shape? I could be mistaken I just hadn’t seen it before. Definitely curious about the tail and nose measurements. Looks like a shape with weird dimensions that might weirdly work. Second slide has dimensions. 8.5 x 32.6 14.69 wb



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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #1568 on: August 13, 2022, 07:53:32 PM »
I think this is a new shape? I could be mistaken I just hadn’t seen it before. Definitely curious about the tail and nose measurements. Looks like a shape with weird dimensions that might weirdly work. Second slide has dimensions. 8.5 x 32.6 14.69 wb




Yeah, that's a no from me dawg.




I was eyeing the:

8.3 x 32.17x 14.39 (but I doubt it's a true 8.3 plus it's a bit long for my taste

https://www.thereskateboards.com/product-page/ways-james-pitonyak-8-3


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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #1569 on: August 13, 2022, 08:22:02 PM »

That sure is a solid ride, almost a vert board for some people, who were after those dimensions, but for bigger dudes who want longer wheelbase boards, that would work really well and reminds me of the other DLX board in 8.5 with 14.75 wb and 32.5 length, of which I have had a few.

I thought it could have been a Metal Skateboards guest deck with that graphic too, but it sure is out there.


*  Also wondering if they did that wheelbase just to be funny, the 14.69 instead of 14.7 or any other more normal number.

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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #1570 on: August 13, 2022, 08:34:13 PM »
I'm imagining it's the 8.5x14.75x32.5 but with fudged numbers just to troll all of us.

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« Reply #1571 on: August 13, 2022, 08:34:18 PM »
Isn't it just the 8.5 Full?

I've tried a Krooked 8.38/14.5 on Thunders so far and it feels sorta anemic pop wise so I couldn't imagine riding 14.7 on Ventures.

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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #1572 on: August 16, 2022, 06:07:50 PM »
I helped someone setup a DLX 8.25 deck the other day they had bought, but needed everything else.

Funny thing is that 8.25 x 32 with 14.38 wb is a wider board, this one no exception, the dude thinking it was 8.5 as per what he was told in the shop he got it.  We measured it and everything else lined up like 32 length and 14.38 wheelbase but the overall width in any area over bolts, middle, etc was 8 and 6/16ths (3/8ths) so that is just another "normal" for me but a big surprise for him.

We put 149s on it and they fit fine, no overhang and it definitely felt a lot wider than another brand, but true 8.25 deck there at the same session when we had a roll on both of them, but was still a lot more nimble than an old 8.5 he was riding before that, so he was actually more stoked on that board than he first thought.

Funny how things work.


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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #1573 on: August 16, 2022, 10:11:21 PM »
I helped someone setup a DLX 8.25 deck the other day they had bought, but needed everything else.

Funny thing is that 8.25 x 32 with 14.38 wb is a wider board, this one no exception, the dude thinking it was 8.5 as per what he was told in the shop he got it.  We measured it and everything else lined up like 32 length and 14.38 wheelbase but the overall width in any area over bolts, middle, etc was 8 and 6/16ths (3/8ths) so that is just another "normal" for me but a big surprise for him.

We put 149s on it and they fit fine, no overhang and it definitely felt a lot wider than another brand, but true 8.25 deck there at the same session when we had a roll on both of them, but was still a lot more nimble than an old 8.5 he was riding before that, so he was actually more stoked on that board than he first thought.

Funny how things work.


It was the Grimple Sticks Evan Smith Guest board, in case anyone else was wondering, so not absolute freshest drop by any means, but still available here in Australia, pics as per this post I looked up:




I would argue that I've had more DLX 8.25/14.38 decks than most people on this forum; it's basically the only shape I've ridden for....years, at this point. I've measured every single one I've ever set up. The dimensions have been rock solid. These are what they've always come out to for me [all measurements done with straight ruler/do not account for bends in wood (e.g. concave, kicks, etc.)]

Length: 31.75"
Width: 8.25"
WB: 14.38"
Nose: 6.81"
Tail: 6.5"

And yes, you can set the 8.25" up with 149s/8.5 trucks. If you do, most wheels will be flush at side of deck, with slight overhang of axles. With 144s/8.25 trucks, the axles are flush, and edge of wheel sits slightly inside of deck. I've tried both, and I prefer 144s (with Spit classics). The 149s give you a bit more stability, but feel a little clunky. 144s make things flip a little better, and everything feels more agile, at least to me.

IMHO, the 8.25"/14.38 is the best shape DLX makes, and possibly the best deck ever made in the history of skateboarding. 
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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #1574 on: August 17, 2022, 07:28:42 AM »
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I helped someone setup a DLX 8.25 deck the other day they had bought, but needed everything else.

Funny thing is that 8.25 x 32 with 14.38 wb is a wider board, this one no exception, the dude thinking it was 8.5 as per what he was told in the shop he got it.  We measured it and everything else lined up like 32 length and 14.38 wheelbase but the overall width in any area over bolts, middle, etc was 8 and 6/16ths (3/8ths) so that is just another "normal" for me but a big surprise for him.

We put 149s on it and they fit fine, no overhang and it definitely felt a lot wider than another brand, but true 8.25 deck there at the same session when we had a roll on both of them, but was still a lot more nimble than an old 8.5 he was riding before that, so he was actually more stoked on that board than he first thought.

Funny how things work.


It was the Grimple Sticks Evan Smith Guest board, in case anyone else was wondering, so not absolute freshest drop by any means, but still available here in Australia, pics as per this post I looked up:



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I would argue that I've had more DLX 8.25/14.38 decks than most people on this forum; it's basically the only shape I've ridden for....years, at this point. I've measured every single one I've ever set up. The dimensions have been rock solid. These are what they've always come out to for me [all measurements done with straight ruler/do not account for bends in wood (e.g. concave, kicks, etc.)]

Length: 31.75"
Width: 8.25"
WB: 14.38"
Nose: 6.81"
Tail: 6.5"

And yes, you can set the 8.25" up with 149s/8.5 trucks. If you do, most wheels will be flush at side of deck, with slight overhang of axles. With 144s/8.25 trucks, the axles are flush, and edge of wheel sits slightly inside of deck. I've tried both, and I prefer 144s (with Spit classics). The 149s give you a bit more stability, but feel a little clunky. 144s make things flip a little better, and everything feels more agile, at least to me.

IMHO, the 8.25"/14.38 is the best shape DLX makes, and possibly the best deck ever made in the history of skateboarding.

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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #1575 on: August 17, 2022, 10:16:12 AM »

Re DLX 8.25s

They sure are a good solid "middle of the road" board, if you like the dimensions.

Everybody can make up their own minds on what they prefer, but I think it has often been said in the past that the DLX 8.25 is the most common board in their whole range, from their pro guys to regular skaters of all skill levels.  It is definitely one a lot of people choose to skate who I know.

Having a regular supply of modern 8.25 wide trucks really helped though, but before that it was a bit weird, some riding current trucks in 8" and others 8.5" wide trucks, if you couldn't get hold of the older Indy 146 or similar width trucks from the 90s, then 144s from 2017.


@Sedition I know you have said the 8.25 with 144s and Classic 53mm is your go to, which is a nice ride, when I set one up to see what it felt like.




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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #1576 on: August 17, 2022, 10:20:54 AM »

Re DLX 8.25s

They sure are a good solid "middle of the road" board, if you like the dimensions.

Everybody can make up their own minds on what they prefer, but I think it has often been said in the past that the DLX 8.25 is the most common board in their whole range, from their pro guys to regular skaters of all skill levels.  It is definitely one a lot of people choose to skate who I know.

Having a regular supply of modern 8.25 wide trucks really helped though, but before that it was a bit weird, some riding current trucks in 8" and others 8.5" wide trucks, if you couldn't get hold of the older Indy 146 or similar width trucks from the 90s, then 144s from 2017.


@Sedition I know you have said the 8.25 with 144s and Classic 53mm is your go to, which is a nice ride, when I set one up to see what it felt like.

Yup, I rode 149s before 144s came out. It was...well, I like 144s better. :)
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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #1577 on: August 17, 2022, 10:21:35 AM »
This man claims this when the Grimple nighthammer exists smdh

A valid point.
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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #1578 on: August 17, 2022, 10:49:32 AM »
Picked up one of the new Manderson 8.38"s at the shop yesterday. Not my favorite graphic but not mad at it either.

https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Krooked_Manderson_Mucury_Deck/descpage-KKAMUC83DK.html

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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #1579 on: August 17, 2022, 11:53:02 AM »
What shape is that AH/Supreme 9.12" deck?  I'm not gonna go to the trouble of tracking down a Supreme product, but I'm curious if that shape is used on any other decks.

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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #1580 on: August 17, 2022, 12:32:34 PM »
What shape is that AH/Supreme 9.12" deck?  I'm not gonna go to the trouble of tracking down a Supreme product, but I'm curious if that shape is used on any other decks.

I think it's a standard BBS shape. The Primitive Franky egg might be the same or really similar.....

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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #1581 on: August 17, 2022, 01:09:25 PM »
Picked up one of the new Manderson 8.38"s at the shop yesterday. Not my favorite graphic but not mad at it either.

https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Krooked_Manderson_Mucury_Deck/descpage-KKAMUC83DK.html

It'd be aight if it wasn't baby diarrhea yellow...hopefully it's brighter in person. Most Krooked drops this year have been pretty 'meh' graphically. Not great, but could be worse.

The color choices tho, just drab. Nothing pops but the flower graphic on team:logo boards.
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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #1582 on: August 17, 2022, 01:38:24 PM »
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What shape is that AH/Supreme 9.12" deck?  I'm not gonna go to the trouble of tracking down a Supreme product, but I'm curious if that shape is used on any other decks.
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I think it's a standard BBS shape. The Primitive Franky egg might be the same or really similar.....

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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #1583 on: August 17, 2022, 06:35:36 PM »
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What shape is that AH/Supreme 9.12" deck?  I'm not gonna go to the trouble of tracking down a Supreme product, but I'm curious if that shape is used on any other decks.
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I think it's a standard BBS shape. The Primitive Franky egg might be the same or really similar.....

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Ha yeah, I will let someone else who knows it take that one, but I think I have been on a product info binge and posting a little too much of late.

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Definitely similar to the Primitive Franky egg, but not quite the same.
9.1 x 32 - 14.5
Was most recently run on the Krooked Alternate Moonsmile deck in their Summer release



Glad someone knows!!!

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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #1584 on: August 17, 2022, 09:13:00 PM »




I’m sure someone’s gonna have questions about this eventually. Grosso longer shape. 9 1/4x34.5ish 15/15.5” WB (slightly different specs from the sticker). For length comparison is a DLX 8.25x32
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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #1585 on: August 17, 2022, 09:52:48 PM »




I’m sure someone’s gonna have questions about this eventually. Grosso longer shape. 9 1/4x34.5ish 15/15.5” WB (slightly different specs from the sticker). For length comparison is a DLX 8.25x32

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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #1586 on: August 17, 2022, 10:05:13 PM »
Yeah but I’ve lived in Los Angeles for the past 6.5 years. Orchard had been my local shop since Coliseum closed. One of the guys that run Nowhere Fast is also one of my good friends
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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #1587 on: August 23, 2022, 05:57:49 PM »
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Krooked drop is out.


https://krookedskateboarding.com/fall-2022/


Manderson board is "Mucury" if anyone is looking for one, try searching MUCURY more than anything else.


As @Xen said, it is bright yellow, but that is the shape if anyone wants another one.  Seems like they sell out fairly quickly from some places.




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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #1588 on: August 26, 2022, 01:22:31 PM »
Anyone know what the thing is that dlx posted on insta is about same mold every time or something like that?


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Re: DLX Shapes
« Reply #1589 on: August 26, 2022, 01:56:04 PM »
Anyone know what the thing is that dlx posted on insta is about same mold every time or something like that?



I think it would be fair to say it is exactly what they do with the different sized boards, with BBS using different length and size molds for different sized decks.

Eg the usual 14.25 to 14.38 or so wheelbase boards would be on a shorter mold, but the 14.75 to 15" wheelbase boards are on the bigger mold, maybe even something in between too, as well as a shorter one again for the scaled down versions of those Real decks for smaller riders.

Maybe more so now just highlighting that fact, as there are other woodshops that have used almost the same sized mold for different sized boards and it shows, one brand I had seen in a shop that had four fingers of flat for the mini and no flat for the longer wheelbase decks in their range.

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