DLX Shapes

[LebowskisRug]

Why didn't you ask for a measuring tape? I feel that shape would be obviously shorter in appearance and, if you stood on it, in feel.

[DarkPools]

Do R1 real boards not get the Roman numeral stamp? My Guererro cruiser 9.25 I just set up didn't have it.

I've skated R1s years ago so I thought I'd remember or know, but wasn't sure, so I elicit Slap for help hahah

I'm positive it's still BBS but the lack of markings up there had me wondering

[southphillytapwater]

Why didn't you ask for a measuring tape? I feel that shape would be obviously shorter in appearance and, if you stood on it, in feel.

I didn't have time to set it up in the shop, I was just trying to be in and out. I didn't even bring my board in with me. I figured that the most reputable brand in skateboarding would have accurate sizes printed on their products.

[Sedition]

I figured that the most reputable brand in skateboarding would have accurate sizes printed on their products.

An absolutely fair assumption, too.

[Sedition]

Do R1 real boards not get the Roman numeral stamp? My Guererro cruiser 9.25 I just set up didn't have it.

I've skated R1s years ago so I thought I'd remember or know, but wasn't sure, so I elicit Slap for help hahah

I'm positive it's still BBS but the lack of markings up there had me wondering

DLX was screwing around with different constructions some time back. They had that extra thick board, they had some rocker thing, and maybe one other? Basically any deck that was NOT one of those was an "R1" deck (e.g. the vast majority of decks they made). Since those other ones have gone away, the R1 concept is kind of moot. Essentially any deck you get from DLX now is an R1. To that end, all DLX (R1) decks are (usually) stamped.*

*However, note the odd-ball non-stamped I/others mentioned a few posts up.   

[LebowskisRug]

I've noted this many times in this thread, but DLX decks and many brands actually don't truly measure what the sticker says.

A good example is the "8.5" Blue Eagle. It says 8.5x14.25, 31.9 when in reality it's always been an 8.38, 14.18, 31.75. The Manderson also has a 14.18 and doesn't measure a true 8.38. The DLX Black Eagle shape says 8.125x14.25 and the one I saw in the shop was 8.25x14.3.

In your case the shape was not remotely correct and that sucks. I didn't mean to come off like a dick, but I've had a few decks that were BBS generic shapes where they were the right graphic but not the right shape so I learned the hard way to always measure just in case so I'm not stuck with the wrong shit.

[Mbrimson88]

Do R1 real boards not get the Roman numeral stamp? My Guererro cruiser 9.25 I just set up didn't have it.

I've skated R1s years ago so I thought I'd remember or know, but wasn't sure, so I elicit Slap for help hahah

I'm positive it's still BBS but the lack of markings up there had me wondering

Yeah definitely still BBS.

The way I rationalise it is this:

Those boards that are marked for DLX get the stamp at some point soon after they come out of the press, before going to get cut or anything else.  Sometimes they don't get a stamp for whatever reason, or boards that come out of the same presses for other brand allocation before cutting are then used for DLX brands, but by that time, no one knows what number they were and it is not stamped.  Hopefully that makes sense.


That TG board is a super short one, or at least short 14.0 wb, from the spec list, so it might have been from a different press or wood allocated to the general pool.

I think it was 9.25 x 31.8 or 32 (depending on which site you look at) and 14.0 wb, but as I have not seen any in person, I don't know if it is shorter overall or just pressed on the same one as other normal boards like the blue eagle.

[Sativa Lung]

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Do R1 real boards not get the Roman numeral stamp? My Guererro cruiser 9.25 I just set up didn't have it.

I've skated R1s years ago so I thought I'd remember or know, but wasn't sure, so I elicit Slap for help hahah

I'm positive it's still BBS but the lack of markings up there had me wondering

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Yeah definitely still BBS.

The way I rationalise it is this:

Those boards that are marked for DLX get the stamp at some point soon after they come out of the press, before going to get cut or anything else.  Sometimes they don't get a stamp for whatever reason, or boards that come out of the same presses for other brand allocation before cutting are then used for DLX brands, but by that time, no one knows what number they were and it is not stamped.  Hopefully that makes sense.

That TG board is a super short one, or at least short 14.0 wb, from the spec list, so it might have been from a different press or wood allocated to the general pool.

I think it was 9.25 x 31.8 or 32 (depending on which site you look at) and 14.0 wb, but as I have not seen any in person, I don't know if it is shorter overall or just pressed on the same one as other normal boards like the blue eagle.

I always just assumed they stuck a stamp in between the separator sheets and top veneer or had permanent sheets with them stamped into it and did it that way or something. It seems like it would be really easy to get things mixed up in terms of position once they come off the press and moved to the next station otherwise. If the stack gets shuffled prior to stamping at all your numbering system basically loses it's meaning afterwards. Pennswood (and control) number theirs too but iirc it's to ID the press used, not the stack position.

[Esmith5488]

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Normally like to ride a 3-4 when I get dlx decks. Wanted to try the 8.28 real again after a few decks and blind ordered one from holistic in reading. Came to my house in MD next day which was sick but was a 2 in the  press. Excited to get a session in but we are in the middle of a storm. Hopefully Tues or weds I can get out.

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You can do the car tire trick to mellow it out but Im always concerned that will kill the pop prematurely.

In the future if you buy from holistic just hit JD up on insta or via email beforehand and he will happily check the stamps for you. He actually kept an eye out for IV stamped 8.28s after I asked him about one and hit me up like months later to tell me one had just come in. He's gone through stacks of boards looking for certain top stains too, and I got the impression he kinda enjoyed it haha. He's definitely a skate nerd and has sympathy for the madness sufferer... just one of those all around awesome shop owners.

Actually a lot of shops are cool about checking stamps for you. You might get some flack from like the ski/skate/wake emporium type places but core shops are usually super chill about it. They get it. The only exception I've ever had was one dude who started like arguing with me about what boards were steep and what ones weren't like the guy special requesting a specific stamp didn't already know what he likes. I won't publicly shame them, but they did try to imply that PS stix has no mellow molds because FA boards are steep. This was a solid year or two after they had gone fully to BBS.

Damn that’s very sick, I always feel bad about hitting those guys up about that stuff and I normally can adapt pretty quickly. This one took about two sessions to get used to but I love that shape. Maybe wish the tail was just a tiny bit longer

[DarkPools]

Thanks @Mbrimson88 ! 9.25 x 32 x 14.0 seems exactly what it feels like under my feet after riding it for a bit now. I forgot to look at the sticker before tossing the wrapping.

Also, appreciate the response(s) about the stamping. I expected it but didn't sweat that it wasn't there. The R1 construction thing is something I definitely remember DLX experimenting when it came to concave, rocker, etc. separate from their regular shapes back in 2014-ish

In hindsight, I think I should have gone with a different DLX (Grosso, etc.) shaped deck the shop had. One that had a longer WB than 14 because it's noticeably shorter feeling compared to my regular 14.5 WB BBS decks I actually skate. For a cruiser, it may be too squirrelly. We'll see.

Can't complain, because I can turn this into a fun shaped deck with 151 Thunders or keep cruising as is.

[DanRar009]

Been looking to skate another real board and never really noticed too much about the different board constructions, other than the obvious ones but what exactly is the real dreamer shape/construction? I like the dimensions on it and I have skated real boards in the past with similar dims just have no idea what the dreamer part means

[Mbrimson88]

Been looking to skate another real board and never really noticed too much about the different board constructions, other than the obvious ones but what exactly is the real dreamer shape/construction? I like the dimensions on it and I have skated real boards in the past with similar dims just have no idea what the dreamer part means

I don't know where it started, but that name has been associated with that particular shape for a while now, maybe from KWalks or someone else.

Really it is just the name they gave to that shape, nothing more, as far as I could tell.  It is the usual BBS / DLX wood normal pressed R1 concave with the dimensions being 8.38 x 32.25 with 14.5 wb, around 7" nose and 6.5" tail, favourite shape of Grant Taylor and Kyle Walker (so they have said as well as being skated by some of the other guys now too) which more often than not is a little more mellow than other similar shapes and concaves, when compared to the usual 8.25 or longer 8.5 shape of the same presses, I II III or IV stamped on top.

I have been skating them for a while now and have had a lot of them (more than fifty all up of this exact shape), along with having a significant number of the usual 8.25 and longer 8.5 boards come through my hands, which I was not as keen on, but back to the 8.38 dreamer shape, it is a little wider than 8.38 / a hair under 8.5 really, straight through the middle with a slightly more pointy nose and tail than some other boards, but it works well for what it is.

It is the same BBS shape that seems to be used by a number of brands, including Baker, Deathwish, Birdhouse, DGK, Element, Heroin and others, as I have had them all to compare and check, same wood, sometimes different stain lay ups but overall the same boards when riding them, although note a few of those brands seem to have discontinued / changed their shapes now.

Somewhere like Tactics is good to see all dimensions, even if you don't think they are totally accurate, they still give what I could see a fairly good representation of most of those boards, from what I have seen and measured when I have had them in my hands.


https://www.tactics.com/search/8.38


https://www.tactics.com/real/praman-one-off-838-skateboard-deck


SPECS
SIZE   8.38
CENTER WIDTH (IN):   8.38
LENGTH (IN):   32.25
WHEELBASE (IN):   14.5
NOSE (IN):   7.0
TAIL (IN):   6.56

[mrselfdestruct]

Hey Slap Pals,

We're working to some new Deluxe deck shapes. Any shapes you like now that could use a tweak to make it perfect?

If anyone has any suggestions, ideas or input we'd love to hear them!

shovel!!!

[DanRar009]

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Been looking to skate another real board and never really noticed too much about the different board constructions, other than the obvious ones but what exactly is the real dreamer shape/construction? I like the dimensions on it and I have skated real boards in the past with similar dims just have no idea what the dreamer part means

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I don't know where it started, but that name has been associated with that particular shape for a while now, maybe from KWalks or someone else.

Really it is just the name they gave to that shape, nothing more, as far as I could tell.  It is the usual BBS / DLX wood normal pressed R1 concave with the dimensions being 8.38 x 32.25 with 14.5 wb, around 7" nose and 6.5" tail, favourite shape of Grant Taylor and Kyle Walker (so they have said as well as being skated by some of the other guys now too) which more often than not is a little more mellow than other similar shapes and concaves, when compared to the usual 8.25 or longer 8.5 shape of the same presses, I II III or IV stamped on top.

I have been skating them for a while now and have had a lot of them (more than fifty all up of this exact shape), along with having a significant number of the usual 8.25 and longer 8.5 boards come through my hands, which I was not as keen on, but back to the 8.38 dreamer shape, it is a little wider than 8.38 / a hair under 8.5 really, straight through the middle with a slightly more pointy nose and tail than some other boards, but it works well for what it is.

It is the same BBS shape that seems to be used by a number of brands, including Baker, Deathwish, Birdhouse, DGK, Element, Heroin and others, as I have had them all to compare and check, same wood, sometimes different stain lay ups but overall the same boards when riding them, although note a few of those brands seem to have discontinued / changed their shapes now.

Somewhere like Tactics is good to see all dimensions, even if you don't think they are totally accurate, they still give what I could see a fairly good representation of most of those boards, from what I have seen and measured when I have had them in my hands.


https://www.tactics.com/search/8.38


https://www.tactics.com/real/praman-one-off-838-skateboard-deck


SPECS
SIZE   8.38
CENTER WIDTH (IN):   8.38
LENGTH (IN):   32.25
WHEELBASE (IN):   14.5
NOSE (IN):   7.0
TAIL (IN):   6.56

Thank you for the in depth response my man, makes a little more sense now, and it being the same mold as the baker/deathwish boards makes sense on why I like that shape so much. I’ve always skated better and get more comfortable on a board with a 14.5 wheelbase with the pointy nose and tail. Definitely my favorite shape that real makes. I’ve tried the 8.25 and the 8.5 that has the 14.25 wheelbase, definitely hated the 8.25 the most out of them. Hopefully the holiday sales start kicking in soon because I think I’m gonna try and stick up on those 8.38 oval boards and finally end my board madness.

[Sedition]

I’ve always skated better and get more comfortable on a board with a 14.5 wheelbase…

I’ve tried the 8.25 and the 8.5 that has the 14.25 wheelbase, definitely hated the 8.25 the most out of them.

Interesting. I’d assume with 14.38wb (closer to preferred 14.5), the 8.25 would have won out over the smaller length and wb of the 8.5

[DanRar009]

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I’ve always skated better and get more comfortable on a board with a 14.5 wheelbase…

I’ve tried the 8.25 and the 8.5 that has the 14.25 wheelbase, definitely hated the 8.25 the most out of them.

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Interesting. I’d assume with 14.38wb (closer to preferred 14.5), the 8.25 would have won out over the smaller length and wb of the 8.5

I would’ve thought the same, maybe I had a botched deck but I have skated an anti hero eagle 8.25 and that one worked pretty well but then came across a real skate shop day 8.25 and the board just would not work for me. Skated it for a week and ended up throwing on an old 8.5 board with my preferred wheelbase. For sure 8.5 14.5 wb is my sweet spot.

[JM]

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Been looking to skate another real board and never really noticed too much about the different board constructions, other than the obvious ones but what exactly is the real dreamer shape/construction? I like the dimensions on it and I have skated real boards in the past with similar dims just have no idea what the dreamer part means

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I don't know where it started, but that name has been associated with that particular shape for a while now, maybe from KWalks or someone else.

Really it is just the name they gave to that shape, nothing more, as far as I could tell.  It is the usual BBS / DLX wood normal pressed R1 concave with the dimensions being 8.38 x 32.25 with 14.5 wb, around 7" nose and 6.5" tail, favourite shape of Grant Taylor and Kyle Walker (so they have said as well as being skated by some of the other guys now too) which more often than not is a little more mellow than other similar shapes and concaves, when compared to the usual 8.25 or longer 8.5 shape of the same presses, I II III or IV stamped on top.

I have been skating them for a while now and have had a lot of them (more than fifty all up of this exact shape), along with having a significant number of the usual 8.25 and longer 8.5 boards come through my hands, which I was not as keen on, but back to the 8.38 dreamer shape, it is a little wider than 8.38 / a hair under 8.5 really, straight through the middle with a slightly more pointy nose and tail than some other boards, but it works well for what it is.

It is the same BBS shape that seems to be used by a number of brands, including Baker, Deathwish, Birdhouse, DGK, Element, Heroin and others, as I have had them all to compare and check, same wood, sometimes different stain lay ups but overall the same boards when riding them, although note a few of those brands seem to have discontinued / changed their shapes now.

Somewhere like Tactics is good to see all dimensions, even if you don't think they are totally accurate, they still give what I could see a fairly good representation of most of those boards, from what I have seen and measured when I have had them in my hands.


https://www.tactics.com/search/8.38


https://www.tactics.com/real/praman-one-off-838-skateboard-deck


SPECS
SIZE   8.38
CENTER WIDTH (IN):   8.38
LENGTH (IN):   32.25
WHEELBASE (IN):   14.5
NOSE (IN):   7.0
TAIL (IN):   6.56

My absolute favorite shape. Just perfect.

Though… the newest catalogue doesn’t have many. I sure hope they aren’t phasing the “dreamer” shape out

[Mbrimson88]

My absolute favorite shape. Just perfect.

Though… the newest catalogue doesn’t have many. I sure hope they aren’t phasing the “dreamer” shape out

Ha no I don't think it is going any time soon.

It is almost the most common / main shape a lot of their guys ride, but I also think they go through cycles of certain shapes more than others, so when people really want something like an 8.12 or an 8.28 shape, they will do a few of those and less of the other ones for a minute.

Regardless of graphic, there will always be the AH green eagle, the Real white oval and the Krooked eyes boards in rotation, but there already show half a dozen (maybe more in drop 2 from them).


Fall 2023 8.38 shape:


AH (drop 1 and 2)
Hewitt pigeon grimple
Pfanner Cityscapes
Green eagle

Real (only drop 1)
Patrick Silk
White oval

Krooked (only drop 1)
Cernciky Inferno



Almost forgot this one too, on sale down to $59.50

https://www.unityzines.com/product-page-yt8xe/labels-8-38

"Labels" 8.38
 $70.00 Regular Price
$59.50 Sale Price

8.38 x 32.25 WB14.5 Dreamer shape

[Sedition]

Regardless of graphic, there will always be the AH green eagle, the Real white oval and the Krooked eyes boards in rotation, but there already show half a dozen (maybe more in drop 2 from them).

Point of Clarification: The standard DLX 8.38/14.5 is the "dreamer" shape? I don't mess with 8.38s all that much, so I never paid much attention to the nomenclature associated with them.

[Phao Lo]

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My absolute favorite shape. Just perfect.

Though… the newest catalogue doesn’t have many. I sure hope they aren’t phasing the “dreamer” shape out

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Ha no I don't think it is going any time soon.

It is almost the most common / main shape a lot of their guys ride, but I also think they go through cycles of certain shapes more than others, so when people really want something like an 8.12 or an 8.28 shape, they will do a few of those and less of the other ones for a minute.

Regardless of graphic, there will always be the AH green eagle, the Real white oval and the Krooked eyes boards in rotation, but there already show half a dozen (maybe more in drop 2 from them).


Fall 2023 8.38 shape:


AH (drop 1 and 2)
Hewitt pigeon grimple
Pfanner Cityscapes
Green eagle

Real (only drop 1)
Patrick Silk
White oval

Krooked (only drop 1)
Cernciky Inferno



Almost forgot this one too, on sale down to $59.50

https://www.unityzines.com/product-page-yt8xe/labels-8-38

"Labels" 8.38
 $70.00 Regular Price
$59.50 Sale Price

8.38 x 32.25 WB14.5 Dreamer shape

Real also has www.skatewarehouse.com/Real_Walker_Canopy_Slick_Deck/descpage-RLKWCPDK.html (custom mellow concave slick bottom) and https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Real_Wair_On_Lock_Deck/descpage-RLWOLKDK.html (standard dreamer shape)

[Mbrimson88]

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Regardless of graphic, there will always be the AH green eagle, the Real white oval and the Krooked eyes boards in rotation, but there already show half a dozen (maybe more in drop 2 from them).

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Point of Clarification: The standard DLX 8.38/14.5 is the "dreamer" shape? I don't mess with 8.38s all that much, so I never paid much attention to the nomenclature associated with them.

Yes.

Funny that it has a shape name, seeing as most others do not, when compared to pro rider shapes, eg Raney shape, Yinzer / Kanfoush shape, Russo Lusso shape, etc.

I always just called it the 8.38 shape, but then people were getting confused so someone asked DLX and they confirmed it was just the normal 8.38 shape.

[Mbrimson88]

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My absolute favorite shape. Just perfect.

Though… the newest catalogue doesn’t have many. I sure hope they aren’t phasing the “dreamer” shape out

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Real also has www.skatewarehouse.com/Real_Walker_Canopy_Slick_Deck/descpage-RLKWCPDK.html (custom mellow concave slick bottom) and https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Real_Wair_On_Lock_Deck/descpage-RLWOLKDK.html (standard dreamer shape)

Yeah there are still a lot of them out there from previous drops too, so even if they don't list dimensions correctly, as per the Walker deck on SW, it is still the same board.

The curious thing is with those mellow boards, some people have seen them and say they are no different to the other R1 boards, so who knows.  At least that one is a slick too, so that would make it stand out a bit more.  Not going to comment on the graphic at all either.

I get them for the wood and the shape first, graphic last in the order of interests, but there has often been significant differences in concave between some of the 8.38 boards, almost like some runs / stock are on a mellow mold, more so than the normal one, which I prefer.

I posted this a while back, but it is relevant now too:

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More just for curiosity than anything else.

Here's the Real 8.38 mellow mold board, on the bottom, against another Real 8.38 and two Antihero 8.38 olive eagles.

All four of them are the same shape and dimensions, just the bottom one is so much flatter throughout.

[JM]

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My absolute favorite shape. Just perfect.

Though… the newest catalogue doesn’t have many. I sure hope they aren’t phasing the “dreamer” shape out

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Ha no I don't think it is going any time soon.

It is almost the most common / main shape a lot of their guys ride, but I also think they go through cycles of certain shapes more than others, so when people really want something like an 8.12 or an 8.28 shape, they will do a few of those and less of the other ones for a minute.

Regardless of graphic, there will always be the AH green eagle, the Real white oval and the Krooked eyes boards in rotation, but there already show half a dozen (maybe more in drop 2 from them).


Fall 2023 8.38 shape:


AH (drop 1 and 2)
Hewitt pigeon grimple
Pfanner Cityscapes
Green eagle

Real (only drop 1)
Patrick Silk
White oval

Krooked (only drop 1)
Cernciky Inferno



Almost forgot this one too, on sale down to $59.50
 
https://www.unityzines.com/product-page-yt8xe/labels-8-38

"Labels" 8.38
 $70.00 Regular Price
$59.50 Sale Price

8.38 x 32.25 WB14.5 Dreamer shape

Sick, thanks. Can always count on the oval, true


It’s interesting though… I barely ever see the ovals in shops. Maybe they get snatched up quick, or the shops just want to get the pro decks… I don’t think I’ve ever seen a white oval in person before. Strangely enough.

[Painted Baby]

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My absolute favorite shape. Just perfect.

Though… the newest catalogue doesn’t have many. I sure hope they aren’t phasing the “dreamer” shape out

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Ha no I don't think it is going any time soon.

It is almost the most common / main shape a lot of their guys ride, but I also think they go through cycles of certain shapes more than others, so when people really want something like an 8.12 or an 8.28 shape, they will do a few of those and less of the other ones for a minute.

Regardless of graphic, there will always be the AH green eagle, the Real white oval and the Krooked eyes boards in rotation, but there already show half a dozen (maybe more in drop 2 from them).


Fall 2023 8.38 shape:


AH (drop 1 and 2)
Hewitt pigeon grimple
Pfanner Cityscapes
Green eagle

Real (only drop 1)
Patrick Silk
White oval

Krooked (only drop 1)
Cernciky Inferno



Almost forgot this one too, on sale down to $59.50
 
https://www.unityzines.com/product-page-yt8xe/labels-8-38

"Labels" 8.38
 $70.00 Regular Price
$59.50 Sale Price

8.38 x 32.25 WB14.5 Dreamer shape

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Sick, thanks. Can always count on the oval, true


It’s interesting though… I barely ever see the ovals in shops. Maybe they get snatched up quick, or the shops just want to get the pro decks… I don’t think I’ve ever seen a white oval in person before. Strangely enough.

Eagles instead of Ovals seems to be the shop thing. The ovals underwent a shape update to some shorter wheelbases a couple of years ago so they're not 1:1 but I figure the big online retailers seem to always keep the ovals in stock at least. That may even be by design so that those big warehouses can get backfilled and sit on stock to some degree while DLX keeps their fresher graphics on the same shapes pumping through the shops where they have to stand out on a board wall.

[JM]

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My absolute favorite shape. Just perfect.

Though… the newest catalogue doesn’t have many. I sure hope they aren’t phasing the “dreamer” shape out

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Real also has www.skatewarehouse.com/Real_Walker_Canopy_Slick_Deck/descpage-RLKWCPDK.html (custom mellow concave slick bottom) and https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Real_Wair_On_Lock_Deck/descpage-RLWOLKDK.html (standard dreamer shape)

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Yeah there are still a lot of them out there from previous drops too, so even if they don't list dimensions correctly, as per the Walker deck on SW, it is still the same board.

The curious thing is with those mellow boards, some people have seen them and say they are no different to the other R1 boards, so who knows.  At least that one is a slick too, so that would make it stand out a bit more.  Not going to comment on the graphic at all either.

I get them for the wood and the shape first, graphic last in the order of interests, but there has often been significant differences in concave between some of the 8.38 boards, almost like some runs / stock are on a mellow mold, more so than the normal one, which I prefer.

I posted this a while back, but it is relevant now too:

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More just for curiosity than anything else.

Here's the Real 8.38 mellow mold board, on the bottom, against another Real 8.38 and two Antihero 8.38 olive eagles.

All four of them are the same shape and dimensions, just the bottom one is so much flatter throughout.

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Also sick. That mellow mold looks like a (IV) green eagle I got once and had to give away after one session because it felt like I was on a flat 2x4. It was the strangest thing I’ve ever skated: obviously it would pop, but it felt like there was no concave while popping.

As for different runs having different concave, it must be (or this old deck I’m skating is just flattened out from age).

The degree slope (using phones measure) is one degree more steep on the brand new (II) Kyle walker white dipped bird pattern with the pink and blue bottom veneer, than the current (I) mason rainbow bottom veneer cathedral deck.

(All decks above are the 8.38/14.5 wb shape).

It’s possible the (I) cathedral I’m skating now flattened out after popping for a few months?

[JM]

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My absolute favorite shape. Just perfect.

Though… the newest catalogue doesn’t have many. I sure hope they aren’t phasing the “dreamer” shape out

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Ha no I don't think it is going any time soon.

It is almost the most common / main shape a lot of their guys ride, but I also think they go through cycles of certain shapes more than others, so when people really want something like an 8.12 or an 8.28 shape, they will do a few of those and less of the other ones for a minute.

Regardless of graphic, there will always be the AH green eagle, the Real white oval and the Krooked eyes boards in rotation, but there already show half a dozen (maybe more in drop 2 from them).


Fall 2023 8.38 shape:


AH (drop 1 and 2)
Hewitt pigeon grimple
Pfanner Cityscapes
Green eagle

Real (only drop 1)
Patrick Silk
White oval

Krooked (only drop 1)
Cernciky Inferno



Almost forgot this one too, on sale down to $59.50
 
https://www.unityzines.com/product-page-yt8xe/labels-8-38

"Labels" 8.38
 $70.00 Regular Price
$59.50 Sale Price

8.38 x 32.25 WB14.5 Dreamer shape

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Sick, thanks. Can always count on the oval, true


It’s interesting though… I barely ever see the ovals in shops. Maybe they get snatched up quick, or the shops just want to get the pro decks… I don’t think I’ve ever seen a white oval in person before. Strangely enough.

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Eagles instead of Ovals seems to be the shop thing. The ovals underwent a shape update to some shorter wheelbases a couple of years ago so they're not 1:1 but I figure the big online retailers seem to always keep the ovals in stock at least. That may even be by design so that those big warehouses can get backfilled and sit on stock to some degree while DLX keeps their fresher graphics on the same shapes pumping through the shops where they have to stand out on a board wall.

That makes so much damn good sense my head is going to explode. o_O   

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Regardless of graphic, there will always be the AH green eagle, the Real white oval and the Krooked eyes boards in rotation, but there already show half a dozen (maybe more in drop 2 from them).

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Point of Clarification: The standard DLX 8.38/14.5 is the "dreamer" shape? I don't mess with 8.38s all that much, so I never paid much attention to the nomenclature associated with them.

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Yes.

Funny that it has a shape name, seeing as most others do not, when compared to pro rider shapes, eg Raney shape, Yinzer / Kanfoush shape, Russo Lusso shape, etc.

I always just called it the 8.38 shape, but then people were getting confused so someone asked DLX and they confirmed it was just the normal 8.38 shape.

Thank you.

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My absolute favorite shape. Just perfect.

Though… the newest catalogue doesn’t have many. I sure hope they aren’t phasing the “dreamer” shape out

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Real also has www.skatewarehouse.com/Real_Walker_Canopy_Slick_Deck/descpage-RLKWCPDK.html (custom mellow concave slick bottom) and https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Real_Wair_On_Lock_Deck/descpage-RLWOLKDK.html (standard dreamer shape)

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Yeah there are still a lot of them out there from previous drops too, so even if they don't list dimensions correctly, as per the Walker deck on SW, it is still the same board.

The curious thing is with those mellow boards, some people have seen them and say they are no different to the other R1 boards, so who knows.  At least that one is a slick too, so that would make it stand out a bit more.  Not going to comment on the graphic at all either.

I get them for the wood and the shape first, graphic last in the order of interests, but there has often been significant differences in concave between some of the 8.38 boards, almost like some runs / stock are on a mellow mold, more so than the normal one, which I prefer.

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More just for curiosity than anything else.

Here's the Real 8.38 mellow mold board, on the bottom, against another Real 8.38 and two Antihero 8.38 olive eagles.

All four of them are the same shape and dimensions, just the bottom one is so much flatter throughout.

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Also sick. That mellow mold looks like a (IV) green eagle I got once and had to give away after one session because it felt like I was on a flat 2x4. It was the strangest thing I’ve ever skated: obviously it would pop, but it felt like there was no concave while popping.

As for different runs having different concave, it must be (or this old deck I’m skating is just flattened out from age).

The degree slope (using phones measure) is one degree more steep on the brand new (II) Kyle walker white dipped bird pattern with the pink and blue bottom veneer, than the current (I) mason rainbow bottom veneer cathedral deck.

(All decks above are the 8.38/14.5 wb shape).

It’s possible the (I) cathedral I’m skating now flattened out after popping for a few months?

phone levels are notoriously inaccurate and vary when zero'ed, but honestly I've had III's steeper than I's so it could just be variance from press to press or run to run

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Just curious for the 8.38 crowd....ya'll rocking 8.25s or 8.5s on that thing?

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8.5 trucks on 8.38s... but I also always skated 8.5 trucks (149s) on 8.25 decks and loved it