DLX Shapes

[Xen]

Attaboys. 8.38 is the correct answer.

Well non-dlx 8.38s that is.

[Mbrimson88]

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I bought an 8.25 x 14.3 Gotwig board and it immediately felt too small for me.
8.5 x 14.25 master class

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Odd. The 8.5 is shorter length & WB than the 8.25, and barely wider. I’m surprised the 8.25 was the one that felt small.

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DLX is so weird with it's long WBs...clearly the counter to crailtap's short WBs...

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The counter to DLXs longer WBs is DLXs shorter WBs (true fit).

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True, I forgot about them, still, those dims are still a bit...weird - but if they work for folks, the whoo hoo

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I bought an 8.25 x 14.3 Gotwig board and it immediately felt too small for me.



8.5 x 14.25 master class

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Odd. The 8.5 is shorter length & WB than the 8.25, and barely wider. I’m surprised the 8.25 was the one that felt small.

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Idk, I used to not be so fussy about width and had plenty of 8.25s in the past, but after setting one up for the first time in a few years it just didn’t feel right. I can hang on an 8.38 but I think that’s my range.

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8.38 is for sure my width, sure I can skate 8.25/8.5..but that 8.25 is just a tiny bit narrow and that 8.5 just a tiny bit too wide...

I miss my first 8.25" SE; I was sent one of the first/early ones in exchange for feedback. It was really an 8.35 x 31.85 with a round full nose, not the shovel full it has now...sort of like a mini dlx 8.5 - so fucking good...as it is, I don't care for either any of their 8.25/8.3 options. The 8.5" x 31.875 x 14.25" is truly their master class.

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I swore off 14.25 (and smaller) WBs a long time ago. But looking at old notes I had about the 8.25SE, I had written "This is almost exact same deck as the 8.4, but with wider kicks." No idea if that still holds true (or ever did).

Yes, sitting the 8.25 Full SE over the 8.4 and putting deck bolts to hold them together, it is like it was stretched out a touch in width but pretty much the same everywhere else.

After all they are 14.25 wb on 32 length.

Skated both those and they worked well, when I did skate the 14.25 wb, but that is a while ago now.


Some other boards have longer or shorter noses / tails to their other boards of similar dimensions of width, length and wheelbase, so I think although a 6.9 to 7" nose and a 6.6 to 6.7" tail is just right for me, I know these often don't line up with what others like or even what companies put out, often 7.1 noses and 6.5 tails end up being more common, like the 8.38 shape I usually ride, so I make concessions based on the other dimensions, how easy it is to get and whether or not I have to modify it before I skate it. 

The DLX 8.38 with III or IV stamp is just that for me - grip it and go, even though I do have almost one of each other shape still set up in one form or another, more so older shapes going back a few years, no Tru Fit or similar shorter boards though.

[Mbrimson88]

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I see all the new ones are currently in Tactics, so probably elsewhere as well.

A few old shapes back, like the shorter 8.28 board, Yinzer shape 8.55, Raney board 8.63, plus more but the main interest is the new 10" twin shape, or at least they call it twin but Tactics has it as slightly different kicks, but overall it is a monster, big wide long etc.  You can work out for yourself if you don't agree - no worries there.


https://www.tactics.com/anti-hero/gerwer-grimple-asphalt-animals-100-twin-nose-shape-wheel-wells/brown


SIZE   10.0
CENTER WIDTH (IN):   10.0
LENGTH (IN):   33.25
WHEELBASE (IN):   14.62
NOSE (IN):   7.25
TAIL (IN):   7.375





This one too:


https://www.tactics.com/anti-hero/shaped-eagle-90-scallywag-shape-skateboard-deck

SIZE   9.0
FRONT WIDTH (IN):   8.75
CENTER WIDTH (IN):   9.0
BACK WIDTH (IN):   8.5
LENGTH (IN):   31.5
WHEELBASE (IN):   14.3
NOSE (IN):   6.43
TAIL (IN):   6.75

[Mbrimson88]

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Also for anyone wanting that DLX 8.75 short board that was the Antihero Misregistered eagle, this is the new graphic on that same shape, assorted stains but I like teal over some of the others:


https://www.tactics.com/anti-hero/hewitt-grimple-asphalt-animals-875-skateboard-deck/teal

SIZE   8.75
CENTER WIDTH (IN):   8.75
LENGTH (IN):   31.75
WHEELBASE (IN):   14.25
NOSE (IN):   6.9
TAIL (IN):   6.625

[rikki]

Y'all need to remember that a DLX 8.25/14.38 is actually an 8.38/14.38 in reality.

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Y'all need to remember that a DLX 8.25/14.38 is actually an 8.38/14.38 in reality.

I have never found this to be true, and even posted several photos of the 8.25/14.38 with ruler on them, and they were dead on 8.25. 

[Sedition]

Damn. I am now seeing a lot of places charging $70-$73 for the plain Eagles/Ovals, and $80 for pro decks. Shit getting expensive.

[Mbrimson88]

Damn. I am now seeing a lot of places charging $70-$73 for the plain Eagles/Ovals, and $80 for pro decks. Shit getting expensive.

I am curious to see if those cheaper pro boards are BBS or China made boards.

That was about the price difference for the RRP of those boards, as AH eagles, Real ovals and Krooked eyes were all still only BBS wood and were going up a lot here.

Wasn't sure if the USA was getting China made boards, or only BBS, but with those prices, maybe you guys have both now.

[Mbrimson88]

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https://www.realskateboards.com/spring-2024/


Real catalog is up with those 8.75 extras - the twin shape and the Tru Fit, which I know are already up and have been talked about, but it is cool to see them in the catalog as well.

One that seems like it is back for good is the 8.28 shorter board, 8.28 x 31.7 with 14.12 wb as per this one for Chima:

[frontsideNECKTIE]

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https://www.tactics.com/anti-hero/gerwer-grimple-asphalt-animals-100-twin-nose-shape-wheel-wells/brown


SIZE   10.0
CENTER WIDTH (IN):   10.0
LENGTH (IN):   33.25
WHEELBASE (IN):   14.62
NOSE (IN):   7.25
TAIL (IN):   7.375

Just had my local order one of these for me. Will report back once set-up (and if the weather in the PNW doesn't get to -10 again)

Just noticed the tail is listed .1" longer than the nose. Minimal difference in my eyes, but a bit odd if true.

[schralp pal]

new 8.5 Full SE need that.

[Mbrimson88]

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https://www.tactics.com/anti-hero/gerwer-grimple-asphalt-animals-100-twin-nose-shape-wheel-wells/brown


SIZE   10.0
CENTER WIDTH (IN):   10.0
LENGTH (IN):   33.25
WHEELBASE (IN):   14.62
NOSE (IN):   7.25
TAIL (IN):   7.375

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Just had my local order one of these for me. Will report back once set-up (and if the weather in the PNW doesn't get to -10 again)

Just noticed the tail is listed .1" longer than the nose. Minimal difference in my eyes, but a bit odd if true.

I was wondering about that, whether it is a typo or it is actually the size.  Going by overall length, then wheelbase, nose, etc then that would be about right or at least 7 but for everything that might work well on that board.



* I forgot it is supposed to be a twin nose shape.


The new catalog is up now too:


https://www.antiheroskateboards.com/spring-2024/


Looks like the longer 8.5 is also making a comeback with more boards being that shape, eg 8.5 x 32.18 with 14.38 wb.


Posting that frame anyway:

[FatGuy92]

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Y'all need to remember that a DLX 8.25/14.38 is actually an 8.38/14.38 in reality.

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I have never found this to be true, and even posted several photos of the 8.25/14.38 with ruler on them, and they were dead on 8.25.

I remember reading the DLX 8.25s are wider a couple years back and confirmed that after measuring a couple I had on ice. I've seen you mention yours are bang on 8.25 a few times now, so I went to measure a 8.25 cardiel I have (kinda recent, graphic is a moose eating another moose out) and lo and behold, it's measuring at 8.25 exact (consistent between the front truck holes, middle, and back truck holes). I'm using the same tape measure as well and only skate III/IV stamped boards, so it should be pretty consistent. Anyone have any ideas for why it changed?

[kitcatski]

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Y'all need to remember that a DLX 8.25/14.38 is actually an 8.38/14.38 in reality.

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I have never found this to be true, and even posted several photos of the 8.25/14.38 with ruler on them, and they were dead on 8.25.

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I remember reading the DLX 8.25s are wider a couple years back and confirmed that after measuring a couple I had on ice. I've seen you mention yours are bang on 8.25 a few times now, so I went to measure a 8.25 cardiel I have (kinda recent, graphic is a moose eating another moose out) and lo and behold, it's measuring at 8.25 exact (consistent between the front truck holes, middle, and back truck holes). I'm using the same tape measure as well and only skate III/IV stamped boards, so it should be pretty consistent. Anyone have any ideas for why it changed?

I have a krooked worrest on ice right now that measures to a 8.38. So who knows what's going on there lol

[rikki]

Round and round we go. This has been talked repeatedly on Slap. It's a lottery with the DLX 8.25, I guess. Some guys score spot on 8.25's. Others, like me, get 8.38s. The last three Antihero 8.25s I've bought (in the timespan of a bit over a year) have all measured at 8.38.

Who knows? I guess it's all part of the magical unpredictability of skateboarding. 

Mind you, it's not a biggie for me and I'm not complaining per se, as I really like the shape a whole lot regardless of the 1/8 inch difference.

[typeischeap]

Hmm...that goonsac with the 14.25 WB seems like a good reason to get some 6.1 Ventures...

[Mbrimson88]

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Borrowing this from the setup thread from Dave - such a rad looking board / shape, etc.

Treated myself to a Christmas complete
Real true fit 8.75 x 32 14.12 wb
Venture 6.1 standard
Spitfire f4 radial full 55mm 99a Rowan
Bones super Swiss 6
Roughneck Allen
Jessup
Lil jawn rails
Dunks

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Dang, i saw that popping up on some sites that started to get the new DLX season, but only had the width listed. That short wb with a proper 32 length sounds amazing.

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For me it’s perfect. The tail isn’t too stubby and the shape is full but not square.
Hope this shape sticks around. With ventures it balances perfectly.

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top pic?

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[JM]

Those rainbow sheen ovals are gorgeous. I wish they weren’t True Fit, and there were some normal shape options.

[FatGuy92]

Round and round we go. This has been talked repeatedly on Slap. It's a lottery with the DLX 8.25, I guess. Some guys score spot on 8.25's. Others, like me, get 8.38s. The last three Antihero 8.25s I've bought (in the timespan of a bit over a year) have all measured at 8.38.

Who knows? I guess it's all part of the magical unpredictability of skateboarding. 

Mind you, it's not a biggie for me and I'm not complaining per se, as I really like the shape a whole lot regardless of the 1/8 inch difference.

Agreed on that last part. I actually wouldn’t have even noticed a difference if I didn’t measure. It’s just interesting I guess

Speaking of DLX 8.25s, I’m gonna assume the true fit ones are gonna have the same size discrepancy. I just measured a brand new 8.5 true fit and it’s the same as the standard 14.25WB one, slightly under 8.5 at the front bolts and tapers down a little more towards the back bolts.

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Impulse buy this afternoon ended me up with a IV stamped Raney shape...but I kind of wish that shape had a 14.38 or a 14.5. I've got 149 Forged on it with 53mm Radials. On paper, this seems like it should be a fun set-up. Ideal, no, but a fun break from my norm. Now, if it will ever just stop raining/snowing...

[PeteP]

Can anybody tell me any differences other than dimensions between these three? E.g. kicks lenght/roundness, taper, actual width?
8.5x31.8x14.25
8.4x32x14.25
8.5x14.38x32.18

Im now on the 8.5x31.8 and it feels like home, although I’d like it to be a tad wider (it measures 8.38) and maybe kicks could be a bit bigger.

[Mbrimson88]

Can anybody tell me any differences other than dimensions between these three? E.g. kicks lenght/roundness, taper, actual width?
8.5x31.8x14.25
8.4x32x14.25
8.5x14.38x32.18

Im now on the 8.5x31.8 and it feels like home, although I’d like it to be a tad wider (it measures 8.38) and maybe kicks could be a bit bigger.

The blue eagle shape / shorter 8.5 (that is more like 8.3) tapers a lot from front to back as well, big broad nose, smaller tail.

The 8.4 is straight right through, maybe a little bit more rounded in the nose, but not pointy, so starts off maybe about the same or a touch wider at the front and is definitely wider at the back than the shorter 8.5 above.

The longer 8.5 is definitely 8.5 in width and a lot more rounded off in both the kicks, so although no taper from front to back and straight through the rail, it starts to round off from the bolts, which some people like but others do not.  It also has a longer tail than the other two as well.  Some people say it almost looks a bit oval shaped, but I don't think that is the case.


From having and skating all three, I think the 8.4 was the best for me (coming up from the black 8.125 eagle), but if you want a bigger board, the longer 8.5 is a good board to ride as well.

At least the usual blue eagle / shorter 8.5 board seems like it is always going to be around and never in short supply, whereas the 8.4 is often a little harder to get and seems to only come out now and then / not as many options as the shorter 8.5 in terms of different graphics (five options from the last drop across DLX brands) but the longer 8.5 seems to be coming out a lot more in current drops too, so it shouldn't be too hard to pick one of those up, in a few DLX brand options.


Hope that helps.



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Adding dimensions from Tactics (make of that what you will but they look about right)


Blue eagle shorter 8.5

SIZE   8.5
LENGTH (IN):   31.8
WHEELBASE (IN):   14.25
NOSE (IN):   6.875
TAIL (IN):   6.5


8.4 shape

SIZE   8.4
LENGTH (IN):   32.0
WHEELBASE (IN):   14.25
NOSE (IN):   7.0
TAIL (IN):   6.625


Longer 8.5 shape

SIZE   8.5
LENGTH (IN):   32.18
WHEELBASE (IN):   14.38
NOSE (IN):   7.0
TAIL (IN):   6.625

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Can anybody tell me any differences other than dimensions between these three? E.g. kicks lenght/roundness, taper, actual width?
8.5x31.8x14.25
8.4x32x14.25
8.5x14.38x32.18

Im now on the 8.5x31.8 and it feels like home, although I’d like it to be a tad wider (it measures 8.38) and maybe kicks could be a bit bigger.

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The blue eagle shape / shorter 8.5 (that is more like 8.3) tapers a lot from front to back as well, big broad nose, smaller tail.

The 8.4 is straight right through, maybe a little bit more rounded in the nose, but not pointy, so starts off maybe about the same or a touch wider at the front and is definitely wider at the back than the shorter 8.5 above.

The longer 8.5 is definitely 8.5 in width and a lot more rounded off in both the kicks, so although no taper from front to back and straight through the rail, it starts to round off from the bolts, which some people like but others do not.  It also has a longer tail than the other two as well.  Some people say it almost looks a bit oval shaped, but I don't think that is the case.


From having and skating all three, I think the 8.4 was the best for me (coming up from the black 8.125 eagle), but if you want a bigger board, the longer 8.5 is a good board to ride as well.

At least the usual blue eagle / shorter 8.5 board seems like it is always going to be around and never in short supply, whereas the 8.4 is often a little harder to get and seems to only come out now and then / not as many options as the shorter 8.5 in terms of different graphics (five options from the last drop across DLX brands) but the longer 8.5 seems to be coming out a lot more in current drops too, so it shouldn't be too hard to pick one of those up, in a few DLX brand options.


Hope that helps.



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Adding dimensions from Tactics (make of that what you will but they look about right)


Blue eagle shorter 8.5

SIZE   8.5
LENGTH (IN):   31.8
WHEELBASE (IN):   14.25
NOSE (IN):   6.875
TAIL (IN):   6.5


8.4 shape

SIZE   8.4
LENGTH (IN):   32.0
WHEELBASE (IN):   14.25
NOSE (IN):   7.0
TAIL (IN):   6.625


Longer 8.5 shape

SIZE   8.5
LENGTH (IN):   32.18
WHEELBASE (IN):   14.38
NOSE (IN):   7.0
TAIL (IN):   6.625

Not had an 8.4 in awhile, but my recollection was that it had exact same tail length as the 8.5/14.25, so Tactics specs might be off. The 8.4 certainly has a longer nose than the 8.5/14.25, and that longer nose (if I recall) is what accounted for the length difference between the two decks.

[Brad Breath]

Received a 10” Grimple, today, with a Roman numeral I on it.

Praise Jah

[frontsideNECKTIE]

Received a 10” Grimple, today, with a Roman numeral I on it.

Praise Jah

I'm getting mine from the shop today! Board is going on the wall until the weather stops being shite

[schralp pal]

How wide is it where the rear trucks sit?

[Frank and Fred]

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Received a 10” Grimple, today, with a Roman numeral I on it.

Praise Jah

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I'm getting mine from the shop today! Board is going on the wall until the weather stops being shite

Careful. Hanging a board can cause warpage. Best stored flat in a consistent temp room.

In saying that I once hung a Krooked board for a few years before skating it and it rode and lasted really well.

[Brad Breath]

How wide is it where the rear trucks sit?

9.5”

[rikki]

What's the DLX 8.25 x 31.5 x 13.88 shape called? Skated one today with Venture 5.6 V-Lights. LOVED it. Flatground was tons of fun. The shape is nicely balanced. I thought the shortness would throw me off, but shit was a blast. Might be a keeper.

[DRUNK_ASS_WIZARD]

What's the DLX 8.25 x 31.5 x 13.88 shape called? Skated one today with Venture 5.6 V-Lights. LOVED it. Flatground was tons of fun. The shape is nicely balanced. I thought the shortness would throw me off, but shit was a blast. Might be a keeper.

Sounds like the 8.25" TRUE FIT